France's arms race: Defence industry on war footing • FRANCE 24 English

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FRANCE 24 English

9 ай бұрын

When Russia launched its full-scale invasion of Ukraine in February 2022, Ukraine's Western allies committed to sending weapons, ammunition and military hardware to Kyiv. In France, this has meant a major increase in industrial production. French President Emmanuel Macron has said France has entered a "wartime economy", whereby the defence industry is producing more and faster than before. But what does a "wartime economy" actually mean in practice? And how is the "Made in France" arms industry trying to adapt to this increased demand? FRANCE 24's Claire Paccalin and Fadile Bhayat report.
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@saragois6054
@saragois6054 9 ай бұрын
France was right to maintain production even at a reduced level. Best wishes for increasing production in 2024😊
@GeorgeWashingtonLaserMusket
@GeorgeWashingtonLaserMusket 9 ай бұрын
Wishes? It's a matter of willpower. Same for the US and germany, the problem is we are lacking willpower. We need to ramp production to at least ten times. I'm not knocking the people of france but I feel all of our governments could be doing better to help ramp up production.
@milosmilojevic3506
@milosmilojevic3506 9 ай бұрын
​@@GeorgeWashingtonLaserMusketIt's not easy to get qualified people, machinery tools, money and materials in short term. Months, even years are needed to get new production facilities.
@OlafRooster
@OlafRooster 9 ай бұрын
@@milosmilojevic3506 While that may not be easy we always can import those people from friendly nations. And we can hire retired people if needed and possible. We could also take civilian industry people who do similar things and let them do that job so learning curve would be far less. We could also develop not so sophisticated systems that are easier and faster to produce and make them as stop gap measure since Ukraine for example needs material now and will make it work even with lower quality material because hey that is what they are operating even now.
@zhufortheimpaler4041
@zhufortheimpaler4041 8 ай бұрын
Frances annual total 155mm production is about 1/3 of what germany started to do since 2022. France produces around 300k 155mm rounds, germany close to a million. With France being among the 3 largest weapons exporters of the world, its hghly embarrasing to contribute less than 1/10 of the german contribution to ukraines aid. In Military Goods, france barely delivered more than Estonia
@milosmilojevic3506
@milosmilojevic3506 8 ай бұрын
@@zhufortheimpaler4041 I thought whole EU failed to reach a million last year?
@kenhunt5153
@kenhunt5153 9 ай бұрын
Thank you France.
@gaius_enceladus
@gaius_enceladus 9 ай бұрын
Great stuff! From New Zealand - gooooo FRANCE! 🇨🇵 🇨🇵 🇨🇵 🇨🇵 🇨🇵 🇨🇵 🇨🇵 🇨🇵 🇨🇵 🇨🇵
@nihilusedit1447
@nihilusedit1447 9 ай бұрын
Greeting from France to New Zealand
@andreashauschild7757
@andreashauschild7757 9 ай бұрын
I think people are starting to understand that human nature has not changed. We have the same brain, emotions and desires that people had 1000 years ago. And with this comes the same problems. There is no secure situation when it comes to countries. Leaderships changes, alliances are made and broken, and any country that does not have a standing army and stockpiles to use this army will eventually regret it. We have been lucky in Europe to avoid these threats for many years, but history has taught us that eventually it will happen again. And countries that are not ready will be easy picking.
@Krack2805
@Krack2805 9 ай бұрын
people that think like you make this self fulfilling. they are against progress and like to stay with tradition.
@andreashauschild7757
@andreashauschild7757 9 ай бұрын
Its not about tradition. Its about the fact that the world is a dangerous place because just because one person is peace loving does not guaranty that his neighbor is the same. Putting your head in the sand does not protect you if another country ends up with a aggressive leader. @@Krack2805
@iotaje1
@iotaje1 9 ай бұрын
​@@Krack2805 What do you mean by "progress"?
@RazorMouth
@RazorMouth 9 ай бұрын
​​@@iotaje1In Europe progress is about peace, economic prosperity, infrastructure and further integration.
@iotaje1
@iotaje1 9 ай бұрын
@@RazorMouth And which countries in Europe do you feel are the most peaceful and prosperous?
@maxhugen
@maxhugen 9 ай бұрын
Well done France! It makes sense for the various EU countries to specialise in certain types of weapons, and then sell them to each other. 👍 🇨🇵
@trevorhart545
@trevorhart545 9 ай бұрын
BUT France does NOT WANT to buy just SELL!
@Tortuex_
@Tortuex_ 9 ай бұрын
sadly most of France's exports are outside the EU, European countries prefer getting equipment from the USA :/
@Tortuex_
@Tortuex_ 9 ай бұрын
​​​​@@trevorhart545France does have German rifles (HK416 F) and a few US drones, but since France makes almost everything it needs, why would it buy things from other countries? it buys from itself
@alex2mes6
@alex2mes6 9 ай бұрын
At Ukraine he is giving for now, like all the countries that continue to give money and equipment for hundreds of millions of euros, which would be much more useful to the people.
@davidblair9877
@davidblair9877 9 ай бұрын
I agree, European states should coordinate defense procurement and development (or, better yet, adopt an E.U.-level defense structure). Sadly, many Europeans still think at the national, rather than continental, level.
@xealit
@xealit 9 ай бұрын
One would think that “war footing” means to x10 the production of weapons, not x2.
@j.m.7715
@j.m.7715 9 ай бұрын
The Finnish APC manufacturer Patria is on its way to x10 its vehicle production in 5y but that still is not fast enough to be real war economy level. 100 billion magnitude investments across EU are sorely needed.
@rexiioper6920
@rexiioper6920 9 ай бұрын
what war is france fighting? 🤡
@chadstevens6605
@chadstevens6605 9 ай бұрын
Return to your rock, comrade.@@rexiioper6920
@abraham2172
@abraham2172 9 ай бұрын
True, but this is only the beginning. Production is going to ramp up much faster in the near future.
@abraham2172
@abraham2172 9 ай бұрын
​@@rexiioper6920 France is not fighting a war, its preparing for one.
@Bulldog2833
@Bulldog2833 9 ай бұрын
Very well done France - thank you..!!
@user2kffs
@user2kffs 9 ай бұрын
Europe getting back into the real world, producing actual real things
@jayfraxtea
@jayfraxtea 9 ай бұрын
@@phillipbanes5484, did you miss that is a trend among other European countries as it is in France?
@davidblair9877
@davidblair9877 9 ай бұрын
@@phillipbanes5484missing the point, apparently.
@CJ-re7bx
@CJ-re7bx 9 ай бұрын
@@phillipbanes5484 Sorry to say it, but you are the wrong one in this conversation.
@motosnape
@motosnape 9 ай бұрын
​@@phillipbanes5484. Drop the attitude. It's not welcome.
@cjryan4097
@cjryan4097 9 ай бұрын
Now it just needs to start producing babies.
@josephrubalema1193
@josephrubalema1193 9 ай бұрын
All the gratitude goes to the Russians. New jobs, new innovations and more boom in the logistics services
@MalikenNL
@MalikenNL 9 ай бұрын
Increase budget for defence means cuts elsewhere
@Gobber04
@Gobber04 9 ай бұрын
@@MalikenNLkind of a rollback to what it was like 20 years ago no? Defense has been getting cut enough
@Gobber04
@Gobber04 9 ай бұрын
@@MalikenNL fair point, i guess we’ll see how people respond
@Gobber04
@Gobber04 9 ай бұрын
@@othellox1064 and the east is still poor
@kinngrimm
@kinngrimm 9 ай бұрын
@@othellox1064 the west is innovating, but you just keep your enlightened attitude and see how the investements of the west slowly go back into the west while those they formerly invested into may therefor stagnate. Judging how China suddenly wants to reassure with its charm offensiv they already feel that sting.
@wilhelmheinzerling5341
@wilhelmheinzerling5341 9 ай бұрын
Viva la France 🇫🇷 ♥️
@rubiconklbrutorowman7577
@rubiconklbrutorowman7577 9 ай бұрын
Excellent news France finally opened her eyes that needs NOT increase, but 10-times increase and speed, speed, speed, and speed! Super well done indeed France! USA
@jingorooroad2559
@jingorooroad2559 9 ай бұрын
Not too much speed, because when you speedup too much much, you're losing in precision and quality.
@murphy7801
@murphy7801 8 ай бұрын
I think if you say this you don't know the French defense industry. They are the third largest arms sellers after the USA and Russia. Also they have a huge amount of government owned companies in defence.
@David-yh2hz
@David-yh2hz 8 ай бұрын
To be precise, Belgium ordered 19 Caesar NG and 24 Griffon MEPAC (modified to have a 120mm howitzer) at the end of 2023, in addition to previous orders. Belgium had already ordered at least 382 “normal” Griffon APC version in 2018.
@AnthonyTolhurst-dw1nc
@AnthonyTolhurst-dw1nc 9 ай бұрын
I remember their Mirage III0’s we had down under... we called them Miracles!
@californiabreeze2182
@californiabreeze2182 9 ай бұрын
They were also called fast lady by the Australian pilots
@Digmen1
@Digmen1 9 ай бұрын
Love those Caesars!
@kroooassant9899
@kroooassant9899 8 ай бұрын
I don't think people realize what a ceasar in action really means, 155mm are no joke and it is mighty elusive and precise. If it reaches a highway it goes at 110 km/h which is super fast on the battlefield, gets you out of range quickly.
@murphy7801
@murphy7801 8 ай бұрын
The USA is thinking of buying Caesars to replace the m777. So not the only one who likes them.
@StuartBarclay-rm3cj
@StuartBarclay-rm3cj 9 ай бұрын
I know that the Australian Mulwala "Propellent" Facility is working overtime to supply France. I used to sell them EXD electric motors that do not create electric sparks that could cause an explosion.
@olivierpuyou3621
@olivierpuyou3621 9 ай бұрын
There was indeed an agreement between France and Australia for the production of one million 155 mm artillery shells. The completely idiotic European laws prohibited the manufacture of powder on European territory for a vague excuse of pollution or whatever other unfounded stupidity. But hey, nothing to worry about, a mega powder production factory is being set up in the south west of France.
@redwithblackstripes
@redwithblackstripes 9 ай бұрын
Thats interesting!
@thedownunderverse
@thedownunderverse 9 ай бұрын
Where were the EXD motors made?
@lindavid1975
@lindavid1975 8 ай бұрын
That's cruel making robots pick up very hot things.
@Bill0341xx
@Bill0341xx 3 ай бұрын
France is by far the best European power. Im happy they are on our side
@herrakaarme
@herrakaarme 9 ай бұрын
100 or 200 MRAPs is pretty much nothing for a country of France's size. I'd expect 200 for a country the size (population) of Sweden. Good job with the artillery, though. Finland also used to the make artillery (155mm), but these days it seems like the defence forces wants to buy it all from abroad. At least ammunition is still made in Finland, and the manufacturing is running at 100% and being expanded, just like everywhere in Europe that still retains such manufacturing after years of peace. Heavy mortars are still being made in Finland. Better than nothing, I guess, but I wish howitzers were as well.
@mortenlund1418
@mortenlund1418 9 ай бұрын
it is hard to believe that automation pioneere like Europe does not negotiate a collaborate production line somewhere in Europe. A state of art artilleri production line for whole of Europe. It will be much more effective than decentral production of less automated handling. It would pay of in no time!
@glorgau
@glorgau 9 ай бұрын
"High production levels" - basically doing the minimum needed.
@Angloman516
@Angloman516 9 ай бұрын
It's heartening to know that Macron's France has the foresight to recognise the need for adequate military resources being produced in France and has made the necessary finance available. Its rather depressing to know that UK has consistently being reducing it's military capability.
@jimmy7494
@jimmy7494 8 ай бұрын
You’re partially correct that the UK has decreased its military capabilities, - the the army - gradually focusing more on it’s special forces. However, they have spent more on their armed force as % of its GDP than France for years and is currently doing so by spending 2.2% vs Frances 1.9. Ish Britain has invested in it’s navy (this includes new ships, nuclear submarines and it’s aircraft carriers) because as it’s an island (and with the Atlantic to patrol, and it’s nuclear deterrent) it needs this, but sadly this has been at the expense of the army (this bit you are defo correct) I’m glad too France has (finally) recognised the need to increase its military resources too.
@Angloman516
@Angloman516 8 ай бұрын
@@jimmy7494 The contraction of our armed forces, both land, sea & air is indisputable leaving us with less equipment and personnel than has ever been the case in modern history. The US is still flying Harriers until such time as adequate numbers of F35's are available to replace them. The reduction to 15 frigate/destroyers is lamentable, the army's 72k officers & men compared to 900k in 1939 bares no comparison. Undoubtedly the cost effectivenes ratio isn't the same but we now have a population nearly double the size of that in '39 contributing to defence. Maybe reference to 2.9% of GDP in 1936, 3.75% in 1938 and 9% in 1939 gave an increasing leverage to an increasing threat.
@indiakilo3929
@indiakilo3929 8 ай бұрын
Only by leeching European money fella.
@Angloman516
@Angloman516 8 ай бұрын
@@indiakilo3929 As France is one of the largest economy's in the EU subsidising orher as we did, that is rather a false statement dilly.
@sarcasmo57
@sarcasmo57 9 ай бұрын
France knows.
@drefhill
@drefhill 8 ай бұрын
When a company say they have hard time recruting it just mean they pay under the market. I've used to work for subcontractors and work on electronic boards for the rafale they've never paid me enough to stay with them even if i like what i was doing. For exemple i'd be making more money driving a tractor in a farm ir driving a bus than doing high skiled electronic technician tasks on a rafale extremly high quality pcb board. i'd even make more money fixing washing machines.
@iscariotproject
@iscariotproject 9 ай бұрын
i think its the same everywhere right now production trying to go up but its slow
@hermes6910
@hermes6910 9 ай бұрын
Better to be a bit slow when we are talking about chimicals and explosive. Despite being urgent at the same time...
@milosmilojevic3506
@milosmilojevic3506 9 ай бұрын
According to the report this factory could produce 160k shells per year. To get sense of the proportions Ukraine spent around 5k per day, or even more during offensive. Now they probably have only low single digit thousands per day. Russia probably few times more, maybe even ten thousand per day. To sum up the numbers: around million shells is necessary for Ukraine just to sustain its operations. Five factories like this one.
@hermes6910
@hermes6910 9 ай бұрын
Not the same shell, not the same use. Artillery use from Russia (majority of Ukraine systems), is still the old WW1/WW2 doctrine. While modern artillery use less shell by having a way better accuracy and longer range (you need less shell for the same goal when we talk about hitting something and not just the shock tactic). Although I think both are necessary, if the old doctrine can still be used by modern systems, it comes at a cost because of the huge costs and the quality of the systems and munitions.
@milosmilojevic3506
@milosmilojevic3506 9 ай бұрын
@@hermes6910 I agree. We saw during this war that neither doctrinal approach is perfect. Russians spent huge amount of artillery ammunition during the first year of the war to saturate large areas. It is very resource consuming but it isn't without merits. From the other hand precise strikes with HIMARS in pin point fashion or with M777 are effective to bring Russian offensive to halt, but not good enough to break through defensive lines. The balance between the two different approaches is the key question. Combined with tactical skill of concrete units on the ground.
@endi5739
@endi5739 8 ай бұрын
@milosmilojevic3506 All countries which belong to NATO are providing Ukraine, not only France !
@pertinaciousD
@pertinaciousD 9 ай бұрын
Given that the French were invaded twice last century, and the scars are still very much visible, I'm not entirely surprised.
@arbit3r
@arbit3r 9 ай бұрын
I thought they had the most won wars in history.
@Kizron_Kizronson
@Kizron_Kizronson 9 ай бұрын
They have the most won battles in history. Their track record on actual wars is less rosy.@@arbit3r
@wai828
@wai828 9 ай бұрын
@@arbit3r France is a bit older than 100 years you know.
@arbit3r
@arbit3r 9 ай бұрын
@@wai828 I had no idea. I thought they were founded last year.
@gordonmac3616
@gordonmac3616 9 ай бұрын
​@@wai8286 republics and 3 empires and counting
@joem0088
@joem0088 9 ай бұрын
No such thing as Defense Industry on war footing. Society at large must be on war footing : rationing other industries and consumption, in favour of arms production, converion of other factory to produce arms, radical change in govt budget etc. Is this happening ? If only arms industry go from 1 shift to 3 shifts, that's not war footing.
@murphy7801
@murphy7801 8 ай бұрын
Actually there is, but you wouldn't know much about french standards.
@kindnuguz
@kindnuguz 9 ай бұрын
I sure hope France kicks it into high gear. I know they're capable and so are we (US) and all of us together should be able to fill any kind of orders
@Horatiuy
@Horatiuy 9 ай бұрын
Most people, when they buy new cloth, they donate or give away the old ones. This rule helps you keep your house in a nice shape.
@fronabulax63
@fronabulax63 9 ай бұрын
the production of a year will last at least for 2-3 weeks of intense combat😅
@DoubtingTom
@DoubtingTom 9 ай бұрын
How do you know?
@tellyboy17
@tellyboy17 9 ай бұрын
That's true for the other side too.
@AttackTheGasStation1
@AttackTheGasStation1 9 ай бұрын
This is one factory. There are another ones.
@perskarva123
@perskarva123 9 ай бұрын
I'm glad to hear this.
@mafiasoft1
@mafiasoft1 9 ай бұрын
Ty France Slava Ukraina
@ralphdary4182
@ralphdary4182 9 ай бұрын
Even going back to the 1980s, Loral has always done very well!
@JG-mp5nb
@JG-mp5nb 9 ай бұрын
Not a minute too late.
@muhammadanshari3931
@muhammadanshari3931 9 ай бұрын
I hope France do a arms business and transfer of technology with a Indonesia in well condition
@im-a-mexican-knockedout-snorin
@im-a-mexican-knockedout-snorin 8 ай бұрын
No Indonesia supports russia, hamas and are Muslims
@briansmith8950
@briansmith8950 8 ай бұрын
Europe as a whole needs to work together to keep defence capabilities high enough to deter Putin. France can lead the way, but everyone must step up by either joining the manufacturing effort or buying from those who manufacture to help keep output high. Trimming budgets on the back of defence is madness.
@rekstok
@rekstok 9 ай бұрын
Viva la France 🇫🇷
@Reddog1255
@Reddog1255 9 ай бұрын
Thank you France true heros
@johnzajac9849
@johnzajac9849 9 ай бұрын
Vite! Vite! Toujours vite!
@johnjames4681
@johnjames4681 9 ай бұрын
This plant will supply about 1 month of Ukraine's needs which I read was around 5000 a day. New plant being built in Gwent Wales for shells for M777. Every one must help.
@sonyphotoguy6601
@sonyphotoguy6601 8 ай бұрын
Rhein Metall builds a new plant in Germany.
@mnblkjh6757
@mnblkjh6757 9 ай бұрын
🇫🇷👍🙂
@marsspacex6065
@marsspacex6065 9 ай бұрын
We must secure the arsenal of democracy and deter these dictators.
@XTSu-sl1bb
@XTSu-sl1bb 9 ай бұрын
We needed to build up individual infrastructure years ago. Relying on your enemy to produce your products is shear madness.
@SelfProclaimedEmperor
@SelfProclaimedEmperor 9 ай бұрын
In the US Biden has already invested heavily in US infrastructure and we now also have a factory boom.
@josefreitas6824
@josefreitas6824 9 ай бұрын
I've been commeting that for years! The west's business gurus sent all our production power overseas to have it cheaper and more profitable.
@SelfProclaimedEmperor
@SelfProclaimedEmperor 9 ай бұрын
@@josefreitas6824 There is a huge factory boom going on in the US right now. Look it up. Manufacturing is coming back to the US.
@josefreitas6824
@josefreitas6824 9 ай бұрын
@@SelfProclaimedEmperor I has to otherwise we (the whole west) won't be able to produce anything
@admirnisic
@admirnisic 8 ай бұрын
Hopefully there is no need to increase arms production in 2024
@psour33
@psour33 8 ай бұрын
France is not really in war economy, because all usual goods are manufactured as before. Only war industry factories have raised their production on a 7/7 24/24 mode. Whatever we can do, it won't be enough at this time to save Ukraine. We need more countries to help.
@amitbajwa6808
@amitbajwa6808 8 ай бұрын
200 vehicles produced in 8 yrs 😂😂😂😂
@andersolsen1478
@andersolsen1478 9 ай бұрын
An extremely vise decision. So many countries could learn from this
@chellenta1175
@chellenta1175 8 ай бұрын
At first, сovid - the pharmaceutical industry was helped. Now wars are helping the military-industrial complex of the world. Nothing personal, just business.
@KHACHUNGvo-x3h
@KHACHUNGvo-x3h 8 ай бұрын
France, go ahead! Bravo!
@zawiszaczarny7876
@zawiszaczarny7876 8 ай бұрын
War time economy? France is at 28th place in Ukraine aid GDP wise at 0.05%, that is abysmall aid at the very rock bottom. War time economy... Macron as usual is dramatic and big mouthly ridicilous.
@nickhtk6285
@nickhtk6285 8 ай бұрын
I keep hearing how loved the Caesar are in Ukraine. France might have an export darling there.
@heartpaid6767
@heartpaid6767 8 ай бұрын
Good. Viva La France!
@AndriiS-o1l
@AndriiS-o1l 7 ай бұрын
Thank you, France. We, Ukrainians, also strategically interested in relaunch and boost the France-Italy military microelectronics(chips).
@northvanwan7428
@northvanwan7428 9 ай бұрын
Frances' labor force is unproductive. A standard 35hr workweek and at 6 weeks vacation time. They probably have the same problems with educated workforce as other western countries.
@littlefury
@littlefury 8 ай бұрын
We are actually among the most productive in the world. Many countries work 40+ hours per week with less vacations for the same output or less.
@calvinaitkin-sf9up
@calvinaitkin-sf9up 8 ай бұрын
Might be making more arms,,not getting involved in any action though.
@williamsullivan3702
@williamsullivan3702 8 ай бұрын
Well, someone in Europe needs to contribute their own defense.
@scottmitchell8273
@scottmitchell8273 9 ай бұрын
Hhmmm seems like some sort of a plan behind this !
@SunRaIV
@SunRaIV 8 ай бұрын
Any new tanks ?
@karlinggroup2219
@karlinggroup2219 8 ай бұрын
Vive la France 🇫🇷
@josephwallis8965
@josephwallis8965 9 ай бұрын
These military facilities have to be nationalised but find a way to have private operators involved due to corruptions and spies, so it is a very difficult business model??
@kabzaify
@kabzaify 9 ай бұрын
Just nationalise them, otherwise you have zero hope of competing with Russia
@Nicolas-uu3jr
@Nicolas-uu3jr 9 ай бұрын
Vive
@saarinmaki
@saarinmaki 9 ай бұрын
So why is France one of the European countries which gives least arms to defend Ukraine? After all Macron said only recently that Russia must not win.
@IMGreg..
@IMGreg.. 9 ай бұрын
France is one of the few European countries that has active expeditionary forces deployed around the world. Their equipment isn't just sitting idol it's being held in reserve in case something pops off. Still a November report puts their military contributions to Ukraine at €3.2 billion not sure about nonmilitary aid. They can do better but it's not like they've done nothing.
@trevorhart545
@trevorhart545 9 ай бұрын
France SELLS but does NOT Buy or Donate.
@robinwolferink7315
@robinwolferink7315 9 ай бұрын
Because they keep most of their arms support a secret.
@jgw9990
@jgw9990 9 ай бұрын
​@TheGlenn9 so does everyone. That's the minimum. Countries like Denmark have given more than France, the supposed most powerful army in Europe.
@jgw9990
@jgw9990 9 ай бұрын
​@IMGreg.. Yeah France needs to preserve strength to control its neo colonies in Africa.
@Ealdorman_of_Mercia
@Ealdorman_of_Mercia 8 ай бұрын
NO NO NO. We dont want war.
@ArmanMaceda-z3t
@ArmanMaceda-z3t 8 ай бұрын
The france are very good friend country of the philippines
@rramos117
@rramos117 8 ай бұрын
Good for French industry. 👏 USA cannot supply Ukraine alone. Germany has too much bureaucracy.
@mrx2062
@mrx2062 9 ай бұрын
The issue with the France army is, that it seems to have mostly very light brigades. It remains a question if that helps in war with Russia.
@swann67000
@swann67000 8 ай бұрын
It is much worse for uk army... French regular army and special force have much more soldier than british For small exemple 22 sas (not reservist ones) are only 3-400 mens, french 1st rpima or french sas are 3 times bigger. Uk sbs or naval commando are olso 3 times smaller than french naval commando etc
@indiakilo3929
@indiakilo3929 8 ай бұрын
@@swann67000 you're talking rubbish, the UK has a Royal Marine force of over 5800 men alone, not to mention the many other specialised forces. French Special Operations Command has around 2500 personnel, that includes its marine commando, airborne and counter terrorist units.
@swann67000
@swann67000 8 ай бұрын
@@indiakilo3929 have at minimums a little brain to look just 30 seconds on google to see what french special forces command COS is ? French special forces are twice bigger than british. Only for french army special forces their is : 1er rpima is 1000 mens, french recon intelligence is 1000 mens. JUST french army special it is 2000 mens ! THEN french navy special force 800 mens, THEN french air force special.
@gerrycastlemanwarde5933
@gerrycastlemanwarde5933 9 ай бұрын
Weatern Europe has been asleep at the wheel. Hopefully they have woken up in time!
@KausikGupta-lv7ho
@KausikGupta-lv7ho 9 ай бұрын
At least there in one & only western country who saved their defence industry from American invasion 🇨🇵🤝🇮🇳
@mrpicky1868
@mrpicky1868 9 ай бұрын
??? this is laughable scale of production. tiny counties have triple the production rates
@KausikGupta-lv7ho
@KausikGupta-lv7ho 9 ай бұрын
@@mrpicky1868 Yes French defence industry is smaller than USA but it's ALMOST independent unlike other western Powers.
@mrpicky1868
@mrpicky1868 9 ай бұрын
you are repeating video sentiment and not even reading my message @@KausikGupta-lv7ho
@eduwino151
@eduwino151 9 ай бұрын
if you factor in GDP and population size Frances military spening is actually quite large , unlike the germans who have basically would be toast minus americas security blanket @@KausikGupta-lv7ho
@adrien5834
@adrien5834 9 ай бұрын
@cjjk9142 The F35 is nowhere near the most affordable modern jet and it will never be, even if LM sells 10 thousand of them.
@N4CR
@N4CR 8 ай бұрын
160k a year? Ukraine can shoot 20-30k (if they didn't keep losing lot of artillery) a day at maximum. This is a drop in the bucket. A few weeks supply, maybe a month if stretched out lol.
@yyyy-uv3po
@yyyy-uv3po 8 ай бұрын
It's not like France is fighting Russia alone you know...
@davidmorton8332
@davidmorton8332 9 ай бұрын
We need European strategic autonomy. This helps.
@christiandauz3742
@christiandauz3742 9 ай бұрын
Unless France is sending tons of its weapons to Ukraine or back in time to Charlemagne it should focus on building the first space colony
@AlexC-ou4ju
@AlexC-ou4ju 9 ай бұрын
latest update was 40 SCALP hundreds of AMRAMS and 78 Caesar mobile artillery pieces so literally hundreds of tons yeah.
@christiandauz3742
@christiandauz3742 9 ай бұрын
@@AlexC-ou4ju France should turn its homeless and poor into trained, equipped volunteers for Ukraine In exchange France gets territory and mining rights within Russia
@NoaVanSnick
@NoaVanSnick 8 ай бұрын
@@christiandauz3742 You been smoking that crack again uncle?
@marcionphilologos5367
@marcionphilologos5367 9 ай бұрын
We need an EUROPEAN ARMY.
@davidblair9877
@davidblair9877 9 ай бұрын
Yes, Europe absolutely needs unified military command and production. If you think American politics are a hot mess now, just remember that 2024 is an election year. You ain't seen nothin' yet.
@mrfrisky6501
@mrfrisky6501 9 ай бұрын
Not really- the UK and France spend the most and develop weapons more than the rest of Europe- the rest of Europe would just let the UK and France take the lead and spend all the money - other countries must get themselves up to speed
@GoreTheSummoner
@GoreTheSummoner 8 ай бұрын
what you need that for lol. most of the eu countries are in nato, thats enough.
@Escrieg89
@Escrieg89 9 ай бұрын
War footing?
@andersbjrnsen7203
@andersbjrnsen7203 8 ай бұрын
love how they use armored cars more than mbts! mobility and agression versus protection.
@pietjebel3119
@pietjebel3119 8 ай бұрын
So France has enough money for war but not for its farmers
@danpetrescu4915
@danpetrescu4915 9 ай бұрын
how they mesure productivity ? ded people / unit ? are they proud ?
@ManChickin
@ManChickin 9 ай бұрын
why aren't these factory's nationalised? mind boggles
@jbcola74
@jbcola74 9 ай бұрын
Workload and knowhow sharing between nato alies, this is more effective
@jayfraxtea
@jayfraxtea 9 ай бұрын
Cuz factories in private hands are more effective, though they provide no job opportunities for merited politicians.
@jamesburke3803
@jamesburke3803 8 ай бұрын
The only thing that matters is which is more effective and efficient. If private companies produce more product on time and under budget, then the society should utilise them. If the only advantage to state ownership is ideology.... then wake up!
@hantykje3005
@hantykje3005 9 ай бұрын
The society needs more people who can work with their hands like this, and fewer academics.
@itwoznotme
@itwoznotme 9 ай бұрын
so you mean men.
@hantykje3005
@hantykje3005 9 ай бұрын
@@itwoznotme Women can work work with their hands too. They were instrumental in the arms production in two world wars.
@jrhcowl
@jrhcowl 8 ай бұрын
ok
@dereckbrannigan6195
@dereckbrannigan6195 9 ай бұрын
Thank you Mr Putin for bringing NATO and the EU closer together. A great strategic move. Have an extra vodka on me.
@TheMightyKingzuru
@TheMightyKingzuru 9 ай бұрын
At least those weapons won't end up in Africa but in Europe where they were produced.
@michaelrowsell1160
@michaelrowsell1160 9 ай бұрын
no Africa buys from Russia and China .
@saku-033zyx
@saku-033zyx 8 ай бұрын
Nostradamus 9-55
@cjryan4097
@cjryan4097 9 ай бұрын
This is all well and good but the Maginot Line was state of the art as well. The proof is in the pudding.
@steveharvey6421
@steveharvey6421 9 ай бұрын
Better hurry Trump is going to be elected!
@alex-E7WHU
@alex-E7WHU 8 ай бұрын
What a scam 😄
@amin_baccari
@amin_baccari 8 ай бұрын
If you want to preserve your sovereignty you should seek independence from American hegemony. America is much bigger of a threat to you than Russian will ever be. Henry Kissinger once said "To be an enemy of the US is dangerous, but to be a friend is fatal" let that sink in
@pops17512
@pops17512 8 ай бұрын
Heureusement quand même qu'on les a eu deux fois pour nous sortir de la poigne des Teutons puis des Nazis
@saku-033zyx
@saku-033zyx 8 ай бұрын
Nostradamus 1-18
@aspie2901
@aspie2901 8 ай бұрын
🤑🤑🤑 War 🤑🤑🤑
@Morris_MK
@Morris_MK 9 ай бұрын
They can't find qualified people? Really? There are millions of Ukrainian refugees in Europe right now. We can't find better motivated people, can we? 😅
@thekinginyellow1744
@thekinginyellow1744 9 ай бұрын
Were you not paying attention when they said it takes up to a year to train them? And how many do you think could pass the background check? I'll tell you. Exactly zero. This is national defense, not McDonalds.
@frederickpallas7130
@frederickpallas7130 9 ай бұрын
I was done with my 10 years get up and ready a while ago.They may work in preproduction , nothing related intel wise.Base steel production, base semiconductors/electronics.
@jayfraxtea
@jayfraxtea 9 ай бұрын
You said it yourself: qualified vs motivated!
@rasputindasilva858
@rasputindasilva858 9 ай бұрын
@@thekinginyellow1744 I don't mind going and get a job there for the french minimal wage.
@edouard9867
@edouard9867 9 ай бұрын
As always we can't find people, translate to "we can't find people for the minimum wage". Seriously, they will pay those workers the same wage as McDonald baristas. No wonder it's difficult to find people...
@condotiero860
@condotiero860 9 ай бұрын
Same in america. Russia has singlehandedly revitalized NATO in ways nobody could.
@manchagojohnsonmanchago6367
@manchagojohnsonmanchago6367 9 ай бұрын
150k per year is tiny, russia produces.. Probably 450k a month maybe more
@TheEd0206
@TheEd0206 9 ай бұрын
ah, so this is why we have wars.
@robertmcdowell3769
@robertmcdowell3769 9 ай бұрын
Just an FYI KZbin overloaded my buffer on purpose. I will not like or subscribe as long as KZbin continues this practice. Please copy and paste if this is happening to you.
@kwalelalipimile3894
@kwalelalipimile3894 9 ай бұрын
Inadequate energy and raw materials😂
@cyberfunk3793
@cyberfunk3793 9 ай бұрын
Plenty of nuclear power in France and raw materials can be bought.
@kwalelalipimile3894
@kwalelalipimile3894 9 ай бұрын
@@cyberfunk3793 Niger Mali and Burkina Faso are giggling
@Nubbe999
@Nubbe999 9 ай бұрын
@@cyberfunk3793 50% of France's nuclear plants are always standing still.
@cyberfunk3793
@cyberfunk3793 9 ай бұрын
@@Nubbe999 Yet electricity is fairly cheap so they have enough to spare.
@NixsonJr
@NixsonJr 9 ай бұрын
@@cyberfunk3793 free uranium cut off.
@GarroLegionofOne
@GarroLegionofOne 9 ай бұрын
The UK has sent 20+ times more equipment too Ukraine then France, War footing LUL
@gr1mrea9er82
@gr1mrea9er82 9 ай бұрын
The fact they do this production in 50-year-old sheds, tells you how behind they are on the modern Infrastructure.
@etorepugatti9196
@etorepugatti9196 9 ай бұрын
Product quality is important, but nobody cares about the premises.
@rexiioper6920
@rexiioper6920 9 ай бұрын
incles
@thejudge8892
@thejudge8892 9 ай бұрын
France lose it regardless of weaponery ,in the past ,so others needed to liberate them. Probably it would happen again.
@brianjonker510
@brianjonker510 9 ай бұрын
Artillery shells? These workers need to save a large portion of each paycheck because this wont last
@thegreatdane3627
@thegreatdane3627 9 ай бұрын
Something tells me that the demand for artilleri shells will only increase in the coming years...
@alex2mes6
@alex2mes6 9 ай бұрын
But what does France gain to give artillery and ammunition to Ukrainian Jews? What Russia has done badly to France and in general to all countries that continue to spend money. ???