Egypt: the uncertain future for Coptic Christians

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@astrofrk
@astrofrk 11 жыл бұрын
The Coptics are more peaceful than most Christians in the US, it is so sad to see this happen to such a wonderful ancient people, one of the earliest forms of Christianity. They marched with the Egyptian revolutionaries so do not blame all Egyptians, the Muslem Brotherhood is resposible for this.
@BecomingAMan
@BecomingAMan 4 жыл бұрын
@The Tycoon uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh
@starfish50
@starfish50 11 жыл бұрын
NO they wish to stay in Egypt it has been their home for as long as Egypt has been Egypt. They are the decendants of the Pharohs
@Theonetrueerenyeager
@Theonetrueerenyeager Ай бұрын
They are descendants of the ancient Egyptians
@annechristian3095
@annechristian3095 9 жыл бұрын
The Holy written Word of God, says that when Jesus returns, he will go into Egypt first. He is going to rescue his Own Children whom he loves dearly. He goes there in answer to their prayers. "God blesses those who are persecuted because they live for God, for the Kingdom of Heaven is theirs." (Matthew 5:10)
@dashnakk
@dashnakk 12 жыл бұрын
Stay strong copts.
@vadermasktruth
@vadermasktruth 12 жыл бұрын
This is sad to see my Christian brothers & sisters being attacked. I have Muslim friends here in Detroit & we get along fine. No tension or issues whatsoever. I hope this b.s. ends & ends soon! Sick of the violence & fighting! Always use love! ♥
@nanneteburlas9985
@nanneteburlas9985 12 жыл бұрын
I have loved Egypt...and, will always love her!
@abctijo
@abctijo 13 жыл бұрын
Gog bless the Egyptian Christians!
@wokeeye6441
@wokeeye6441 6 жыл бұрын
Free the Copts NOT Palestine!! I support the copts and would want them to form their own nation within Egypt. If a six day war scenario happens and they try to claim more territory in Egypt and become an apartheid state, to the chagrin of the UN and the muslim nations, I will STILL support them
@hqueen-if2ns
@hqueen-if2ns 5 жыл бұрын
Hey hold up u want to make it like south Sudan and north sudan problem?
@inferno0020
@inferno0020 12 жыл бұрын
A history question for Coptic Christians: I heard of a lot about stories about prosecution of your people in Egypt (forced conversion, mob violence, not right for rebuilding church, and poor living standard of Zabaleen community). Why didn't Coptic Christians have any political organization like the Maronites in Lebanon under colonial Egypt? Hope that my question is appropriate. Peace.
@connieeckels7015
@connieeckels7015 9 жыл бұрын
i have been to egypt i loved all the people i could feel the stress because of political problems but the people worked so hard and were freindly.iam truly saddened by this i hope there will be a solution for all.egypt was a great country i wish for it to be like this again.prayers for all peace for all.
@steppingrock
@steppingrock 11 жыл бұрын
Coptic People must unite with the Catholics, they will be stronger. If Catholics and Orthodox unite, they will be a formidable force for peace in the world.
@dashmatt7445
@dashmatt7445 6 жыл бұрын
RGD MD we only have minor disagreements we’re basically the same.
@neptunerider6824
@neptunerider6824 6 жыл бұрын
RGD MD as long as it’s agreed that the patriarchs of Alexandria Rome and Constantinople are equals, then I see no problem
@DIDOTV9
@DIDOTV9 6 жыл бұрын
@@neptunerider6824 that's where you are wrong sweetie
@Onieracraft
@Onieracraft 11 жыл бұрын
The Coptic Christians have lived in Egypt before Mohammed was even born.
@MuhammadMoneib
@MuhammadMoneib 13 жыл бұрын
A well balanced report with no bias. I really hope the situation will get back to normal quickly here in Egypt. Temporal instability is a consequence of revolutions; it's a price we have to pay for getting our freedom back.
@dan32113
@dan32113 12 жыл бұрын
christians used to make up 1 in 5 of the middleast population only 100yrs ago, now it is only about 5%. Copts are the original people of Egypt not Islam.
@SatchmoSings
@SatchmoSings 13 жыл бұрын
@mmoneib Thank you for taking the time to look at Mr. Batchelor's website; he's on the air as I type this (unless he's taking a personal night off; his show is still on.) YOU may consider Batchelor to be Conservative however most other people that you would also consider conservative want NOTHING to do with him; Batchelor is to "the right" of you but he's no right-winger, not at all. Oh, and by the way, he's Assyrian Christian on his mother's side, if that helps you.
@starfish50
@starfish50 12 жыл бұрын
You might want to get their book and READ it. If you are NOT a Muslims, they are NOT allowed to be your friend. That is the sad truth. ( Quran - Take not the Jew's and Christians for your friends, for they are but friends and protectors of each other only ). - That is one of the SADIST things about Islam.
@starfish50
@starfish50 11 жыл бұрын
You are 100% right. Anyone saying anything differant is lying.
@monjiaitaly
@monjiaitaly 11 жыл бұрын
their problems are not religious differences that is all propaganda. They had a real life revolution they need time and some very good leadership.
@jopie89
@jopie89 11 жыл бұрын
Wow the second guy hit the nail on the head. Absolutely disgusting what is being created so fastly within the last decade. Dividing again through religions and with the economic unrest everywhere it seems these things will come together in a short time much closer.
@starfish50
@starfish50 13 жыл бұрын
It is pleasing and even refreshing that there are muslims in Egypt who do not agree with the persacution of the Copts.
@sonofmichael7561
@sonofmichael7561 3 жыл бұрын
Exodus 20:3 (1st commandment) You shall have no other gods besides me.
@allies7184
@allies7184 5 жыл бұрын
We have 'Divine Liturgy' in the Orthodox church not 'Mass'.
@Onieracraft
@Onieracraft 11 жыл бұрын
Pope Timothy I of Alexandria (Egypt) presided on the council when the Nicene Creed was established for the entire church. The Nicene creed was Trinitarian. That was in 381 A.D. But that doesn't even matter, the bottom line is they were CHRISTIANS , and Egypt was CONQUERED.
@mehmetazk
@mehmetazk 11 жыл бұрын
And Unitarians lived in Egypt before Athanasius the trinitarian was ever born. So, what's your point; especially that it was the Unitarian Egyptians who accepted Islam?? Most of the followers of Athanasius remained trinitarians.
@starfish50
@starfish50 11 жыл бұрын
I know.
@Onieracraft
@Onieracraft 11 жыл бұрын
The Copts were there before you were.
@starfish50
@starfish50 11 жыл бұрын
As long as Obomanation is in the White house, that wouldn't help them. Just this week a teacher in a public school, refused to let a little boy (in this horrable hot weather ) get a drink of whater, because it MIGHT offend the muslim students. Here in Oklahoma we banned Sharah Law, but 2 Oboozo apointed federal judges said we can not ban Sharah Law.If obomanation is not impeached, the US will only get worse.
@Onieracraft
@Onieracraft 11 жыл бұрын
Bottom line is, Coptic Christians were living there before you, so you have no business telling them it's "your country".
@mehmetazk
@mehmetazk 11 жыл бұрын
Have you ever heard of the Hussite Wars in the early 15th century? Have you ever heard of the Thirty Years' War in the 17th century? Have you even heard about the Trinitarians slaughtering an estimated 12 million Unitarian Arians between 450 and 650 CE? If you're looking for "conversion by force", you better look for what I previously asked you about, or you might try searching for Charlemagne's butcheries against the Saxons. Good luck with your research!
@starfish50
@starfish50 11 жыл бұрын
It was not that way before the Muslims slithered their way into Egypt.
@SatchmoSings
@SatchmoSings 13 жыл бұрын
@mmoneib Yes, this poll (which is fairly recent) shows that most Egyptians are optimistic about the upcoming elections and the government that will result. However in a Pew poll taken earlier, "Egyptians want more Islam in politics"; I was using THIS poll as part of my source and I believe it to be, obviously, the more accurate one even though it is obviously somewhat older. Either way, I wish Egypt all the best this way, it's just that I'm not as optimistic as you are; anyway, all the best!!!
@itcantalk
@itcantalk 12 жыл бұрын
who was doing the dubbing in this??? laughing at the switching of accents, and voices.
@starfish50
@starfish50 11 жыл бұрын
Give Obama time, we are getting to the point Egypt is in. That is WHY the COPTS came to warn us about Islam.
@starfish50
@starfish50 12 жыл бұрын
Your talking about the US governmernt and NOT the Americans
@frankyboy283
@frankyboy283 12 жыл бұрын
these Muslims have remember that the Copts have been in Egypt a lot longer than them
@Onieracraft
@Onieracraft 11 жыл бұрын
So this is your strategy? To try to change the subject to something you think you can actually debate.?
@GrandmasterTigerfist
@GrandmasterTigerfist 11 жыл бұрын
Support to Christian brothers of Egypt we understand you pain as we ( Buddhists ) face Islamist terror. Islamic garbage ideology will fall,
@mili7i
@mili7i 13 жыл бұрын
as was expected !>>> like in Iraq ---- the iraqi christians fled to jordan and syria ! Iraq is already lost to christians ---May God keep them safe !
@monjiaitaly
@monjiaitaly 11 жыл бұрын
the countess is right, its the jews that want the war between christians and muslims. From the euphrates to the nile thats the land the israeli zionists want.
@SatchmoSings
@SatchmoSings 13 жыл бұрын
@mmoneib My friend, you're not going to have Western-style Republicanism; you're going to have more one-party rule only this time the Party will be The Muslim Brotherhood. I wish the Copts all the best in this!!!
@SCGmovies
@SCGmovies 11 жыл бұрын
I've noticed an increased number of Islamic people on the internet, trying to do their best to use propaganda against Christianity, and it's just sad and immature.
@ThePreciousNessa
@ThePreciousNessa 12 жыл бұрын
i think becuz they are not allowed..
@Absurdistian
@Absurdistian 11 жыл бұрын
30 or 40 years ago, perhaps a Copt would have preferred moving to Christian Europe but today... lol, go to certain parts of Brussels or Malmo or London or Berlin or Marseille and you'll feel like you never left Egypt (or whatever Muslim country the people who populate those ghettos come from). There's no easy solution to this, sadly.
@SatchmoSings
@SatchmoSings 13 жыл бұрын
@esiosan You are absolutely correct but the average person in Egypt frankly isn't the least bit interested; @mmoneib is a good example of this. And besides, the secularism that Egypt has had has been the model of "The One Party" state so that's really not much of an improvement; that's Nazi Germany or the USSR which Egypt used to be allied with.
@crush40fan101
@crush40fan101 12 жыл бұрын
They are only 10% of the population, and they are viewed as second class citizens in Egypt. They have limited power because no one wants to hear their voice.
@mikeylejan8849
@mikeylejan8849 2 жыл бұрын
What did the copts do to deserve this?
@MuhammadMoneib
@MuhammadMoneib 13 жыл бұрын
@SatchmoSings So you direct me to a conservative radio show and call it a reliable source? How about gallup?! Search for egypt gallup poll. Sure democracy is not yet established, but that's what we are trying to do. What I wanted to say is that the mentality of the far right is the same all over the world regardless of religion or ideology. Details differ, but principles are almost identical.
@starfish50
@starfish50 11 жыл бұрын
YEP, not only that , bu t their Quran gives them permission to LIE ( They call it ) " Al - Tekkya :" exactly the opposite of the Bible when God said " thou SHALL NOT bear false witness "
@MrStcarroll29
@MrStcarroll29 13 жыл бұрын
.......
@kupaksulja
@kupaksulja 12 жыл бұрын
who are the muslim brotherhood and whaat do they do?
@starfish50
@starfish50 12 жыл бұрын
@Kupak Sulja - You know EXACTLY who and what the Muslim Brotherhood are.
@transformer01able
@transformer01able 12 жыл бұрын
this is wrong
@starfish50
@starfish50 11 жыл бұрын
@feaks uww FYI I'm not Hebrew, I don't know why you think I am, and frankly I don't care why you think I am. This video is about the COPTS ( Coptic Christians ) who I have a great respect for. I am very deeply concerned about what will happen to them now that Obama has funded and Armed the Muslim Brotherhood
@mehmetazk
@mehmetazk 11 жыл бұрын
Just leave Egypt alone, understand?
@starfish50
@starfish50 11 жыл бұрын
NO YOU DON'T. Jesus was a Hebrew. Muhammad was an Arab.
@SCGmovies
@SCGmovies 11 жыл бұрын
Yep, its such a Sociopathic way of life.
@CountessofStrathearn
@CountessofStrathearn 11 жыл бұрын
no miss hebrew.. don't cover anything... and it was the spaniards who said to conquer and divide.. and i'/m christian by the way. you may be shocked..
@GrandmasterTigerfist
@GrandmasterTigerfist 11 жыл бұрын
A hard fact proves that islam is a monster. Blessed be the brave copts. Buddhists support copts of Egypt, we suffer the same terror by satan islam.
@starfish50
@starfish50 11 жыл бұрын
no it is not true. The COPTS wish to stay in their own native Egypt.- It is pretty easy to tell when a person is a Muslim, and a lier. ( congratulations you are being a good Muslim )
@starfish50
@starfish50 11 жыл бұрын
My soul is not up to you. because God is in control of my soul, best advice for you is to worry about your own soul.
@mili7i
@mili7i 13 жыл бұрын
@neuromancer45 ------There are many muslims leaving islam> Peace of the Messiih to all ! and dont blame it that the christians have started this ---- the life is already hard enough!
@starfish50
@starfish50 12 жыл бұрын
He was being taught the Bible in that cvave by Boharah the monk, until Muhammad got drunk on date wine and killed him.
@SCGmovies
@SCGmovies 11 жыл бұрын
You don't know what you're talking about.
@ROBOTJONZE92
@ROBOTJONZE92 12 жыл бұрын
My grandparents came to america cause they are Coptics
@vincentanderson8435
@vincentanderson8435 9 ай бұрын
Are these the tru ancient people of kemet stop this lie
@MuhammadMoneib
@MuhammadMoneib 13 жыл бұрын
@SatchmoSings So you are a fortune teller?! And what is western-style republicanism?! Your parents were probably practicing racism while we got rid of it many centuries ago. Freedom and democracy is not exclusive to the west no matter what you may think. We've been suffering from dictators backed by your country for decades. It's not easy to teach people who have been living in oppression for many years about democracy in months. It could get years, but we'll eventually succeed.
@SCGmovies
@SCGmovies 11 жыл бұрын
Your Islam no doubt... can't live in proximity with others who have different faiths than your own yes?
@michaelarchangel8647
@michaelarchangel8647 12 жыл бұрын
They should all go to syria and help Assad before the socalled free syrian army turns syria into another egypt.
@andreasgeorgopoulos3878
@andreasgeorgopoulos3878 Жыл бұрын
Greek dna !
@MrFaceeatingcancer
@MrFaceeatingcancer 11 жыл бұрын
Ammut only eats the souls of evil people .i know i am safe.
@Absurdistian
@Absurdistian 11 жыл бұрын
lav asecir :))
@mehmetazk
@mehmetazk 11 жыл бұрын
Bottom line is that 94% of today's Egyptian citizens are Copts and Nubians, while only 10% of the population are Christians (including Catholics, Greek Orthodox, and Protestants who are NOT Copts). This proves that the vast majority of the Egyptians reverted to Islam; as did the Nubians. Yes, Egypt was CONQUERED, but her citizens were NOT forced to Islam; on the contrary, the Arab conquerors gave them choice; unlike the Byzantines who persecuted the Egyptians. Now who's the intolerant?
@MrFaceeatingcancer
@MrFaceeatingcancer 11 жыл бұрын
Egypt would be better worshiping there pagan gods and goddesses .there so much more cooler then the Abrahamic God.
@starfish50
@starfish50 11 жыл бұрын
your WRONG,once again
@lucindakhalil3970
@lucindakhalil3970 12 жыл бұрын
@transformer01able You arewrong.
@dashmatt7445
@dashmatt7445 6 жыл бұрын
Long live president Sisi!
@starfish50
@starfish50 12 жыл бұрын
R O F L, your AL-TEKKYA is lame to say the least
@monjiaitaly
@monjiaitaly 11 жыл бұрын
booo hooooo hooooo your an ass, once again :)
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