FRANCHISE CHANGING DRAFT? | New England Patriots Draft Recap

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[@brent4536]

Jalynn Polk and Javon baker on the same team, I’m sick smh I wanted at least one of them. Drake is in good hands those guys will be good wrs

[@aaronl8609]

Personally I think they are both slow and will be dropped in coverage every play.polk was a backup in college and #1 corners will eat him alive

[@GDaVo.]

@@aaronl8609u dnt have to fast to get open…

[@derrickstith2234]

@@aaronl8609back up in college??? You don’t know ball lmfaoooo 1200 yards 7 tds playin next to Rome & McMillan lmaooo just stop you a hatin mf

[@ethangrey6801]

@@aaronl8609wdym back up? You mean number 2? You know justin jefferson was the number 2 to Jamarr right? Just cause you’re a number 2 behind a very talented person it doesn’t make you untalented

[@Grievous_]

@@aaronl8609 Being slow isn’t that bad of a thing tho for receivers, if you’re great at running your route and have elite hands then you will be good! Polk and Baker are just that!!!! Plus Polk is fast so idk wtf you’re talking abt, same with Baker

[@EricM93]

I watched Caeden Wallace's full games vs Michigan, Ohio State, and a few others. Dude has good size, good pass pro and gave up 1 sack the whole season. He has the potential to start and was probably the best tackle left on the board. I was skeptical too until I watched his tape and for the third round he has a good chance of being able to contribute.

[@silentknight9509]

On the right side a reach for a project

[@EricM93]

@@silentknight9509 He was the best tackle on the board in the 3rd round.

[@silentknight9509]

@EricM93 there was first round talent still on the board at other positions because of the run on offensive talent they chose reach on a project and repeat the reaching in the 4th round with a guard in a room already full of them again with much higher valued talent available at other positions they chose to pick offensive talent just to say they did instead of quality

[@EricM93]

@@silentknight9509 a room full of guards? cole strange is not an nfl talent and will likely never start at guard for the pats again. Mafi is also hilariously bad at least in season 1. Sidy is OK not great. We needed a guard for sure.

[@liamlyda2116]

@@EricM93 I'm a Pats fan, and agree with your Wallace take. But your guard and Cole Strange take was so bad I had to comment on it. Strange will 100% be the starting LG barring any injury. He is an NFL talent.

[@LouieOcean.]

I’ve been waiting on this, thank you! 🙏

[@DarthVader-td2uh]

There was a run on tackles they had to grab one.

[@unrulybill]

A run on specifically left tackles.

[@Andy_Babb]

They should have projected that and picked the tackle sooner… Baker and Maye seem like the only good picks

[@unrulybill]

@@Andy_Babb you think they’re kind readers lmao they went who whoever they thought was best to fit this team. Stop yappin

[@Andy_Babb]

@@unrulybill Dude do you think teams just blindly hope for the best? No, teams have to project _other_ teams’ needs to lower the risk of not, for example, trading a pick and then having that team take the guy you want, ie trading with the chargers only to have them take the guy you were gunna take.

[@mt_baldwin]

Remember when the narrative said CJ Stroud was going to the worst situation? I do and for one there was zero talk of "the Texans aren't ready to draft a QB", what nonsense this was for the Patriots. And two, everyone was saying Young was going to a better situation "ooh Adam Theilan can help a rookie QB out and he's got an offensive minded head coach." Here's another side note on narratives, remember all that talk of "Caleb Williams should pull an Eli Manning, Chicago is a terrible situation for him" and now the narrative has done a complete 180 "Caleb Williams is going to the best situation in the history of the draft!!!" If Drake Maye is good his talent will shine through whatever the situation.

[@runriot-ke3cv]

Yup. But, this way, if Drake is good, then they were right all along. And, if Drake sucks, the talking heads don't have to admit they were wrong, they can simply blame the team for not supporting their QB prospect enough. It's a win-win for the media's ego.

[@waylandsmith5543]

Overall the guessing about everything is masquerading as analysis. Nobody knows 2hats going to happen for sure

[@michaelcorcoran8768]

Yeah I mean we can of course always find anecdotes. But it does kind of become a trope. Definitionally, top prospects usually have to go to s*** teams. The entire function of the draft basically is to accomplish this parity exactly. If you follow this to its logical conclusion, you would never draft a quarterback until you're exactly one quarterback away. To me that seems like a foolish approach. Sometimes the young quarterback gets thrown to the wolves and the good ones will find a way to make it work. Even if they can't win, you can still usually see enough glimmers of quality play even in the face of pressure and dysfunction. Like Trevor Lawrence has had tons of dysfunction, and his play has been inconsistent I'm sure in part because of it. But we know he's a good quarterback in there ... Even when he was in a s*** situation he could display good quarterback play.

[@eriks.uperpatriot5817]

Solid B, but If the Patriots can get Wallace to play at LT. This was a very good draft. It would make it an A.

[@michaelmccourt4992]

It's all about getting open and running great routes. If you blow the doors off with your speed, that's great and all but it don't mean squat if you can't run a route and come down with the football. These 2 dudes have size, good hands, and shiftyness.

[@DV-id6di]

B+❤. GO PATS🎉

[@mattesyl33]

I like Dial as a possible FS of the future. He's a ball hawk. All the Offensive picks feel like a remake to set up for WR1 draft next year or an actual Left OT in rd 1 cuz there are some up coming OTs in next years draft.... I kinda expect them to eventually pay a veteran WR1 once Maye gets going...🤷‍♂️

[@Rucarlos]

Maye is excellent, but it wouldn't be a Patriots draft without massive reaches specially in the O-line department

[@strangesightsinthesky]

and receiver,and quarterback,the 2nd stiff.

[@TheeRomantic]

Definitely gonna go hard this year. Especially when it comes to undrafted agents cause next years draft is going to suck bad. I'd even bet multiple teams to trade out of the first round

[@WRedPhill24]

Baker was my favorite pick. Wallace to me is the biggest ? Mark. If Wallace works out gotta give the scouting team props.

[@flyparks3224]

Drake Maye has a lot of wrk to do

[@britneyystaples91]

Drake Maye A+ Jalen Polk B Caeden Wallace B Layden Wallace B- Javon Baker A+ Marcellas Dial B- Joe Milton C Jaheim Bell B+

[@seth101-hv4st]

But can Mayo coach?

[@Jairogliphx]

Wallace from Jersey

[@michaelcorcoran8768]

I'm a Patriots fan. I honestly do not know what to think and I'm just trying to have an open mind. Easily I can't fault the first pick, I don't watch enough college football to have an opinion as if it was the right one but.... It's hard to argue that drafting the consensus best quarterback available was not the right move. Daniel's is more exciting to watch so I was kind of secretly hoping for that but again I'm not qualified to say who is better or why. I'm a little worried though because we really don't even know who's calling the shots. We don't know how much agency Wolf has or Mayo how much Jonathan Kraft the younger is involved. For some reason they still seem to be targeting these large bodied / compete while the ball is in the air, / prototypes. I just wish they would prioritize speed. Again I'm just some idiot fan though....

[@seth101-hv4st]

Not really excited about the team this year. But you never know, maybe they will surprise me.

[@liamlyda2116]

They went for the speed approach in 2022, it didn't workout what so ever. Baker (4.54) and Polk (4.52) are both shifty guys who lack a true top gear but still separate enough and their football speed was still great. Official 40 times for top NFL WRs with 2023 stats: AJ Brown 40 time: 4.49 (5th in Rec Yards) Mike Evans 40 time: 4.53 (9th in Rec Yards) CeeDee Lamb 40 time: 4.50 (2nd in Rec Yards) Brandon Aiyuk 40 time: 4.50 (7th in Rec Yards) Puka Nacua 40 time: 4.57 (4th in Rec Yards) Amon Ra 40 time: 4:61 (3rd in Rec Yards) DJ Moore 40 time: 4.42 (6th in Rec Yards) Amari Cooper 40 time: 4.42 (10th in Rec Yards) Davante Adams 40 time: 4.56 (15th in Rec Yards) DHop 40 time: 4.57 (21st in Rec Yards) Diggs 40 time: 4.46 (13th in Rec Yards) Only two guys who finished in the top 10 of receiving yards in 2023 ran an official time of 4.4 or lower at the combine or their pro-days (Tyreek Hill (1st in yards) and Nico Collins (8th in yards, also ran a 4.4)) TLDR: 40 times are the most useless tool when determining a college players success in the NFL

[@perfectq7206]

The concerning thing about Drake Maye is he didn't perform well against the better defenses and I'm not just talking elite. The Herebert comparisons are not good either. At least Justin performed well against good teams despite being handcuffed to that terrible dink and dunk offense at Oregon.

[@silentknight9509]

C- at best There was plenty of top defensive players on the board they took offensive players just to say they did instead of quality

[@liamlyda2116]

This is not a team that didn't have the luxury of being able to take BPA. 2023 draft was almost entirely defensive prospects. Offense had WAYYYY to many holes to not take shots at. Taking defense when they already have a stacked defense makes no sense. When you take your franchise guy at No. 3 overall, you have to make an effort to help him. It seems they have learned since Mac Jones.

[@silentknight9509]

Sorry poor excuses for reaching for oline projects over higher valued talent

[@dd61882]

FIRST THIS IS OVERLAP

[@robertsimon7100]

Wallace is not 341. He is 314. Check combine.

[@EricM93]

He'll be playing at 6'5 320 with 34 inch arms. His pass pro is quite solid. I think he has a chance of being able to start for this team.

[@javiersalinas1458]

Maye, Baker & Milton 👍 For all the other picks, there were better prospects at their position when they drafted them. So.... I am glad they did not trade down the 3rd pick because it looks that they would most likely make bad choices with the extra picks. I think.

[@dannymizz]

“better prospects”? it’s never been that black and white.

[@ironPatriots48]

LMAO, this dude said the Tom Brady Era was ok... Apparently Started watching football last season to say something that stupid 😂😂😂😂

[@rayjoseph3980]

Damn bro he tone was obv being sarcastic.

[@aaronl8609]

I love watching people blow smoke up our ass saying these picks arent either garbage players or taken at garbage time's

[@lazy2708]

Watch yourself

[@MikeJones-rk1un]

These guys may never get on the field. It's just hype to sell tickets.

[@strangesightsinthesky]

only the first pick was great.all the rest,slow,reaches and disappointing.fire your scouting staff.they are incompetent.

[@aaronl8609]

Even Malachi Corley if not Mitchell or McConkey Not polk tho

[@dannymizz]

why did any of us watch any of this? who tf is this dude and why does his opinion matter??

[@RAWWITHMIKEMOE]

When you said, pick another WR versus picking C. WALLACE, told me you're just a podcast person with a mic. That just proves you know nothing about football. Give it up kid....

[@Rosie_Cozy]

Drake Maye gives me mac vibes so can’t say I’m a fan unfortunately

[@DarthVader-td2uh]

Fool

[@DarthVader-td2uh]

Nothing like Mac dude

[@Handle6865]

Literally nothing alike

[@ashtonluck]

🤡

[@xDawhite]

I understand where a casual that says like this comes from. But for people with knowledge he is quite the opposite of Mac.

[@Jairogliphx]

This was a good draft by NE and I’m a jets fan 🫱🏼‍🫲🏿

[@neilray2599]

Yea solid draft so happy. But u guys did better. Stole corley

[@Jairogliphx]

@@neilray2599 may the best team win brotha 🫱🏼‍🫲🏿

[@dacodboy3219]

rlly wish they got tj tampa 🥲