Franchise Low Points for the Toronto Maple Leafs

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[@jeffkomaranski9310]

As a Leafs fan I'm shocked you were able to fit the franchise low points for the Toronto Maple Leafs into a 14 minute video.

[@GoJays]

Was about to comment the exact same thing 😂😂

[@midimusicforever]

Well he had to skip a bunch. Or a boatload.

[@tomwilson3969]

That could be a netflix docuseries

[@honkingantalope]

I was going to say this should be an hour long. 14 mins for the last 14 years maybe.

[@Roller11111]

He could have spent 14 minute just covering gawd awful trades. Just counting the time I've been a fan of hockey, Niedermayer, Luongo, Smith, Kenny Johnsson, Rask, Steen, Couture, Stralman, Seguin and Hamilton off the top of my head. Looking at those trades the only decent player in return was pretty much Kessel.

[@tomwilson3969]

Somewhere Steve Dangle is crying watching this video.

[@SpaceForce635]

14:02 minutes of rage crying.

[@jeremydanchuk1897]

If things go too bad he just becomes Oilers fan Steve....Decade of Darkness...Steve goes catatonic

[@tomwilson3969]

@@jeremydanchuk1897 I love Oilers fan Steve. Such a Happy guy

[@thefozzybear]

Steve Dangle doesn't have time to watch this channel.

[@wikingandersson2561]

The most annoying hockey-personality out there. Let him cry then he might stop bothering people. THG is the man.

[@OttawaRocks]

"When we get into the lost asset category you can see I ran out of space"...No words...

[@scott4259]

We're not salty, Shannon. We're suicidal. You were way too fair- it's been much worse then this.

[@richardfewer9348]

Scott well said

[@SeanKH19]

Andrew Raycroft currently works as an analyst for NESN talking about how great Tuuka Rask is.

[@JPMadden]

And John Ferguson, Jr., was working for the Bruins at that time!

[@matpower755]

Love that intro... “Yup...”

[@sportsrook8282]

I feel like you could have just said “1967” and that would covered all the bases for the low points of the Leafs.

[@richardfewer9348]

SINCE 67

[@Roller11111]

IMO the lowest of the low is probably the Kurvers trade for the 1991 first round pick. In 1989, the New Jersey Devils traded Kurvers, who they received in 1987 for a 3rd plus 10th round picks, to the Maple Leafs after a 66 point season. The price was a first round pick about 18 months after this trade. The first season Kurvers hit 52 points and the Leafs were eliminated in the first round of the playoffs. The next season can only be explained as a disaster that was compounded with knee jerk reactions. During this season the Leafs stumbled out of the gate and were at the bottom of the standings with the Quebec Nordiques. The prize for last place (no lottery) was Eric Lindros who was dubbed as The Next One. To avoid the embarrassment of essentially trading the next generational talent, from your own backyard, the Leafs traded away a pair of second round picks to the Nordiques for three roster players. This effectively made the Leafs slightly better and the Nordiques slightly worse and went a long way to having the standings result that way. Oh and Kurvers was traded to Vancouver in January, well before the draft in which they surrendered the pick. This draft was also one of the deepest drafts in history. Beyond Lindros and Niedermayer, this draft had Forsberg, Matvichuk, Lapointe, Rolston, Kovalev, Naslund. Many who have had long and very good NHL careers. The Leafs have made bad trades in their history, but IMO this single move likely cost them a Stanley Cup during this time through the 2004-05 lockout. However this franchise has had a long pattern of making terrible moves, it's no surprise they have a 50+ year Cup drought.

[@SpaceForce635]

I remember the 1980's being so dismal for the Leafs.

[@armandolarade7861]

They had 55 points one year...

[@billdang3953]

Who can forget the early 80's when their so called "talent" consisted of the likes of Jiri Crha, Rocky Saganiuk and Normand Aubin. Hard to believe that Normand Aubin was drafted in the same round of the same draft year as Mark Messier and it turned out that he didn't know how to skate, shows you how crappy the scouting and player evaluation of the leafs was at the time.

[@midimusicforever]

You need to make a lost assets board. Boards. Or whatever it takes to not run out of space.

[@user-gd6lt6pj7p]

As someone who was not alive for it, the 80s era of the NHL is fascinating to me. The fact that the leafs had seasons where they won less than 30 games and STILL made the playoffs. People complain about the regular season not meaning anything now but it REALLY didn't mean anything back then.

[@doggosplosion]

Somehow in this video 2/3 of the way through Boston still came back and won this video from the Leafs.

[@jean-philippedoyon9904]

I could be mean and say, Best before 1967 like an expiration date...to be honest, and it's a habs fan saying this, Toronto did have some pretty good seasons post 1967, but yeah, 2006 to 2012 was atrocious to see...I bet it was not fun being a Leafs fan at that time, no pure franchise players and some atrocious contract...Thank god you can be competitive now ! Love the rivalry !!

[@sstamperr]

it’s hard to get upset at this team anymore im exhausted

[@ricktacular6316]

The thumbnail for this video is perfect and hilarious. Good job Shannon.

[@tomwilson3969]

I want to see draft bust videos by team. Specifically Toronto and Edmonton.

[@JHockeyFan]

All the Canadian teams please. Give me all the reasons why they haven’t won the Cup since 93.

[@azuredusk991]

Refs and Gary bettman

[@SpaceForce635]

5:50 I completely forgot about the Tom Kurver's trade! Scott feckin Niedermayer........

[@andrewschmidt4000]

We must have the most painful lost assets column of any team.

[@philtorrez4198]

Way to kill me the thumbnail Shannon! 😂

[@bluesguy4251]

Wierd to say but i love my blues and live in st.louis and with all the blues futility they have had till last year i can relate to being a leafs fan and thsts why toronto is my 2nd fav team but as bad as blues have been, being a toronto has had to have been tough with ballard ....and etc...whoa!

[@BlackAndThrash]

Oh man i've been waiting for this one

[@thomasjefferson6]

Another Harold Ballard story: In the mid seventies, one of the best face-off men in hockey was a young player by the name of Doug Jarvis. Roger Nielsen tipped off Scotty Bowman about him, saying that he was better on the face-off than Bobby Clarke (he was). However, Toronto had the rights to Jarvis, and Montreal wanted him. Jarvis was a Christian. So, knowing how much Harold Ballard disliked Christians (once saying that he didn't want such people in his building), Montreal made sure to Jarvis's religious beliefs to Ballard, and so easily prevailed on Ballard to trade Jarvis even up for Greg Hubick. Jarvis went on to help Montreal win 4 Stanley Cups in a row, won the Selke trophy, and the Masterton trophy, and 2 more Stanley Cups as an assistant coach and set a record for most consecutive games played by any player. Hubick played 6 games in the NHL before his NHL career was over.

[@Meerdx]

To think that the Leafs had two defencemen in McCabe and Kaberle who finished the 2005-2006 season with 68 and 67 points respectively, and still couldn't squeak into the playoffs... Such wasted potential.

[@jean-philippedoyon9904]

About goalie, people might talk in the past about Andrew Raycroft vs Tuuka Rask...He was good, statistically it was logical ! Also, i felt they were just bad lucky at a point...Jonas Gustavsson the monster and Vesa Toskala were pretty good with great potential...Hell even Jonathan Bernier had a great chance but i feel he spent to much time as backup with the King...What do you think ? Did one had a chance ?

[@davidheit7475]

It's too late now because it's up, but it might be cool to see the defunct teams listed like you list Vegas with a small sample size alongside the leader currently in the NHL

[@BudNucks]

Ohh I’ve been waiting for this one

[@InsignificantNick]

I'm 22, so I never saw the Ballard years, but I've watched from 2006 to now. 🙃

[@aaronthompson4537]

A lot of agony for sure. I remember going to a Leafs vs. Sharks game at the end of the 2014-15 season at ACC. Never going to forget it, it was just awful. Not only the play but just the atmosphere, a culmination of past and present failure with seemingly nothing to be optimistic about at all. A lot of the players and picks traded away were a result of trying to put a bandaid on really serious problems and the Leafs paid for it.

[@chrisseverson900]

I love that leafs hat where did u buy it from.

[@hassam363]

When you see the Ballard trades... It is just wow.

[@richardfewer9348]

hassam hussain You mean trading crucial players for ...and cash considerations?

[@nicholastricarico2957]

How isn't this at least 30 minutes? Oh, right, the Harold Ballard video exists.

[@Iceman-bn9dm]

September 1967-now

[@LeoMajor1]

As a leafs fan i watched until 1:12 before I got too depressed and said nah can't do this lol

[@richardfewer9348]

Adamn adissident buff sad since 67 bud

[@pushon10]

They lost to their Zamboni driver

[@TheHockeyGuy]

Just throw it on the fire. As a canucks fan, I can relate. They used to make Curtis Sanford look like Patrick Roy when they played the Blues.

[@bannisher]

A Zanboni driver on their payroll!!!

[@OttawaRocks]

Was waiting for someone to say it...

[@UserName-ts3sp]

steve dangle leaves the chat

[@richardfewer9348]

Huff sad SINCE 67

[@Dratchev241]

I was having a ok day today..... then watched this video as a leafs fan... now im depressed.

[@thesuperostrich]

The 1970s onwards

[@BrettHornby]

Harald Ballard is a four letter word. Would say that they had low points after their back-to-back conference championship runs and the longest drought. Team seems to be going in the right direction but it's about having too much tied up in forwards for the salary cap.

[@jonasrajagopal2485]

Game 7 in TD garden

[@InsignificantNick]

Which one?

[@reignofrock]

Would love to see their first Game 7 loss of the decade. Only happened a measely three times last decade. Let's start this one better!

[@goprotendy5657]

InsignificantNick all of them lol

[@brianmcevoy1990]

Your thumbnail game is on point.

[@Aceskater72]

Where you get that hat I want it!!!

[@importednascar]

Leafs fan here. Been a fan since 2009. Yes, during the stretch of no playoffs.

[@MrPantera123456]

My entire 36 year life has been a Maple Leaf low point.

[@Ortona-43]

Shannon, how are you going to afford the apartment complex needed to store a white board big enough for this video?

[@richardfewer9348]

David Bennett OUTDOORS CALL IT SINCE 67

[@Vladiator01]

You should do a video of all lost assets/ draft picks

[@InTecknicolour]

dave keon was forced into the WHA by ballard. keon wanted to sign with another team and ballard set his compensation so high that no team would touch him. and he was forced to sign with the rebel league.

[@dbassman27]

I fear the franchise low points are not over. It has become apparent Dubas is in over his head. He will probably become a decent GM at some point in the future, but he is still learning at this point. I suspect one of either Marner or Matthews will be traded within the next two or three seasons to get from under their contracts.

[@mayureshanmuhunthan3876]

This team is frustrating to watch

[@willsk7068]

They spoilt kids given everything. This leafs team wont win the cup and they might get whipped by the bluejackets.

[@patch8376]

Toskala and Bester were two more Leafs goalies with fun names.

[@matttanner462]

I think the pick that became Roberto Luongo is up there in lost assets

[@allsystemsgo8678]

They also traded Kenny Jonsson in that trade who was a first line dman for the Islanders for about a decade.

[@h2ofield]

As a longtime die-hard, my low point was very early...I was a kid just starting minor hockey...the 1969 playoffs saw my Leafs get kicked by a combined 17 goals to none in games 1 & 2 against Boston.

[@armandolarade7861]

Can you explain why Ron Ellis was on the board, he was my favorite player growing up, and a tremendous two way player who had good numbers but I guess just a notch below the hall of fame or do you think he should be in, I think he was just playing at the wrong time for when he retired they were maybe looking more points total and maybe not the defensive forwards, just my opinion but a solid player nonetheless...

[@murray1978]

Whatever happened t o Daniel Marios? I remember him having two great seasons of 34 goals as a rookie and sophomore then he disappeared.

[@rparsi]

A surprisingly short video...probably too many low points to pick from (and am saying this as a Leafs fan)

[@rickyaz8640]

A lot of these guys were run out of the city by the insane media. Pressure on Leaf players is unique. Nearest corollary are the Cowboys since 1994

[@SpaceForce635]

Habs fan here, our French language sports media can easily rival what goes on in Toronto. I still haven't gotten over how Chris Chelios was handled in Montreal.

[@skiptracer2988]

It's like this for all the original six teams. They're expected to be great.

[@FischerFan]

The Leafs' trade of Bernie Parent proved to be the final piece of the Flyers' puzzle.

[@rohinkartik-narayan7535]

The next league will be formed by 32 franchises all wanting to get away from Eugene Melnyk

[@dannythomas417]

To be fair Eugene's death was a blessing in disguise for the Kraken now that they're winning. They were tanking when he was alive.

[@gimmick7389]

Zamboni driver

[@philiptate8077]

Vessa toskala ( probably misspelled) is also a pretty good name

[@errormatch7203]

“I don’t want to rip on them” No it’s ok THG, you can do that if you want

[@richardfewer9348]

Error Match Call it SINCE 67

[@lankancheetah]

"The first rounder traded for Marleau will become a good player.". Seth Jarvis has vindicated your call.

[@theknowledge7024]

Hey Shannon you should wear a leafs jersey for every episode. Looks good

[@DZ_Punkz]

You know once upon a time little boy me USE to be a Leafs fan but let’s just say we have to move on one day hah

[@dangermartin69]

The thing that kept Toronto from getting better for so long wasn't ownership, it was the fans. It didn't matter what the ownership did, the fans kept coming and buying tickets. If they had stayed home and refused to pay for the garbage that the ownership was putting on the ice, they would have had to change. Look how bad the Wings were when Illitch bought them. He was giving away cars to get people in the building. He had to hire better staff, better scouts and build that team into a winner, which he did. The Leafs ownership never had to do that, because the sheep would sell out the building for every game, no matter what. Wearing bags on your heads in the stands still means that you bought tickets.

[@doaftheloaf]

the pick from the marleau deal could be lafreniere, unless it's protected.

[@diggsfather]

here from the future. it ended up being seth jarvis

[@doaftheloaf]

@@diggsfather who so far is actually better. leafs could use a guy like that. the guy they picked is no longer even alive. RIP rodion amirov. even there they could have had guhle (next pick) or mercer (three picks after). with jarvis and guhle or mercer the leafs would surely have won more playoff series by now.

[@hockeytownluv2012]

In the next 3-5 years Toronto will be rejoicing is my guess. Not a Leaf hater at all. Good luck boys bring it home for goodness sake. Can't wait for the Wings to be relevant so the rivalry can really kickoff

[@matthewgregory8218]

Now if Bettman leaves does that means who ever is the commissioner will there be big changes like current owners of some teams be forced out ?

[@michaelbecker2435]

Doesn't matter who commissioner is. THG even said it the OWNERS voted out the one owner. Simple as that 31 other owners would have to vote out the owner and buy their team.

[@iambee312]

This video could honestly be a hour long

[@theevilascotcompany9255]

With a Steelbook blu-ray re-release with 96 minutes of added content.

[@skiptracer2988]

LMFAO

[@MrUndersolo]

It could be a mini-series!

[@donnyblondy8506]

you can add the 2021-22 season to the leaf low-lifes

[@darkestship]

Lmao I remember Colton "Score"

[@jameshendermusic]

Imagine thinking a raw goalie prospect like Rask would've developed on the leafs. That trade was literally inconsequential compared to the trading out of first rounders for basically nothing. And just convenient later picks like Josi (taken with a leafs second rounder) are more devastating than losing a goalie who would not have developed on such a bad team

[@GF-wi6qi]

This is going to be a long one

[@midimusicforever]

Haha, that was mean.

[@Lawomenshoops]

Low point- the missed high stick on gretzky in the 93 conference finals. Ref makes that call, Leafs win the series!!

[@elliotfineberg9503]

If you actually read Kerry Fraser's book, you would learn that Doug Gilmour basically screwed himself by telling Fraser that it was Gretzky's follow through.

[@JK-mg6yj]

Toronto vs Boston... command+C and command+V = franchise's annual low points

[@father042]

No Stanley Cup in 53 years No series win in 16 years

[@thefozzybear]

The 80's were bad for the Leafs, when picking the best goalie for that decade (1980-1989) I come up with Allan Bester.

[@Clubpenguin22]

As a leafs fan I'm disgusted by this. How is this video only 14 minutes long?

[@jean-philippedoyon9904]

Can someone explain to me Jeff Finger contract ? I'm gonna say this, even in the dog years, the Leafs could in the past find pretty good defenseman like McCabe and Kaberle...what happened ?!?

[@07foxmulder]

McCabe and Kaberle were there in some awesome seasons.

[@matth268]

Is this a 2 part video?

[@oceanshrugs9235]

7 disc boxset

[@Max_Coolman]

LOL

[@richardfewer9348]

Matt h That never ends...

[@tdunph4250]

Wow, I thought this video was just made within the last couple of weeks not a year ago...

[@SMC01ful]

Not a fan of Toronto, but I do respect them and their place in the Hockey Pantheon. Moreover, what chance did the Leafs have with a prat like Ballard at the helm for so long? Sure, they had a worse non-playoff run well after he'd gone. However, he certainly assisted in creating the pressure and expectation which has dogged the Leafs, and turned Toronto into something of a poison chalice. Had Ballard, actually had a brain or not messed with his team, it's highly likely the Leafs with their kick arse rosters could have had 2-4 Stanley Cups during his tenure. This would have lessened the angst of the Leafs coaches, players, and fans in recent years.

[@thefozzybear]

Hap Day that's my favorite Leafs name.

[@kanekane1265]

Every season I can remember ;)

[@Retzerr41]

ok boomer

[@skiptracer2988]

If he was a boomer, he would have seen them win a cup or two.

[@SpaceForce635]

@@Retzerr41 A boomer would have seen the Maple Leafs win Stanley Cup's. They won 4 in the 60's.

[@autumnmccomb6647]

Another lost asset could be Roberto Luongo to the islanders

[@allsystemsgo8678]

I would say Kenny Jonsson since he was a first line dman for the Islanders for about a decade.

[@lancemilliken9078]

I want a Toronto Saint Patricks sweater

[@datlad35960]

How did this video come in under an hour?

[@Vladiator01]

I remember watching leafs games when they were away, you would hear "leafs suck" chants all game and they were loud.

[@mightymacaque]

Uh oh, this is gonna hurt

[@scarecrowninja]

I did not know Steve Sullivan was a Maple Leaf. He was the only scoring threat the Blackhawks had for a few seasons.

[@patch8376]

In addition to decent offensive seasons, playoff spots were handed out like free candy back in the '80s.

[@dsc4178]

Murphy was played as a #1 in Toronto and he wasn't. In Detroit he was a role-playing #2-3, as he always was. And I agree, Toronto trading away draft picks kills them every year.

[@hockeykid9878]

definitely should have had game 7 on there.

[@gunnerygroyper4957]

How is this less than 8 hours long?

[@kylestoddart]

love it!!! leafs officially suck!!! personally I hate that logo the current one I LOVE...and the logo on the shoulder crest is my tatoo

[@Digital_PeterGriffin]

He really covered 53 years in one video

[@RobotWillie]

The NBA didn't even screw around with the Clippers owner. I'd like to think the NHL would have the balls to remove Ballard these days because he probably should have been then even. I do think owners should have a little more leeway than everyone else but at the same time they should have to answer to and face punishment for much of the same conduct. An example of this I can think of is the Indianapolis Colts owner got in trouble a few years ago for driving while under influence of drugs and he was fined 500,000$ and suspended 6 games, which you may say isn't much but its still a pretty big fine that is bigger than a player would get I am sure. So I like how the owners are not immune to the same rules at least these days.

[@Ryan-0413]

I’m surprised this video isn’t an hour long

[@watvat8]

*grabs popcorn*

[@666kingdrummer]

Surprised you didn't mention the time Ballard almost traded the whole franchise with Edmonton.

[@rlosangeleskings]

What??? Nothing on David Ayres???

[@smaug1234]

You see, the Maple Laughs are a perfect example of why i feel the playoffs should be expanded. Horrible team that would scrape into the dance just to give its fans another few losses to cry over. But that horrible team had piles of kids that just loved them, kids who are not looking at the standings every morning to know how bad they are, why not give those kids the few extra games. If you expand all of a sudden you get more upsets, more drama, the shootout means less to overall standings, and hopefully you start to move away from teams tanking to win eventually. Teams all of a sudden can build to excel in a tournament system instead of a season grind. Superstars are born in the playoffs, the league needs more superstars let more teams in imo.

[@skiptracer2988]

Teams are.often exhausted and running on spare parts by the time they make the Final. Adding another round is probably a really bad idea.