Sorry for the typos in Bacon's lifespan! Obviously, the correct years are 1561-1626, not 1617-1621, lol!
@hominidaetheodosia2 жыл бұрын
I’m sure my ancestor would have appreciated you’re efforts!∴ As for all occult practices methodology is key. Your knowledge seems deep, most accurate! Bleeding corpse comment, is alchemical, like very much of what Bacon wrote, should not be taken solely at face value! Fascination etymologically indicates the masculine generative creative principle.
@SpacemanID10 ай бұрын
Great video, thanks! I'd recommend the book Eros and Magic in the renaissance by Ioan Petru Culianu. Would love to hear your take on Culianu's work.
@traceyolsen3084 күн бұрын
According to other accounts of his close friends, his death was faked, he went to live on the continent , first in France and finally in Germany , he wrote with Andreae (?) some Rosicrucian texts and died at 106.
@stevedempsey50983 жыл бұрын
I think you're a bit harsh on Bacon. He could only go so far in recommending the experimental method, especially in matters that concerned the Church, such as the soul. Any divergence from Scripture could have been fatal. Also he experimented to such an extent that it caused his death, try to freeze a chicken in the snow to see it would preserve it. He caught a chill and died. The ghost of the chicken still haunts Highgate it is said (but not by scientists).
@bominkim58643 жыл бұрын
I think it's the best explanation about Francis Bacon I've ever heard. On the one hand, your explanation reminds me of Emanuel Swedenborg, the next generation of Bacon. He was also a scientist and philosopher(or natural philosopher), and a very interesting figure known as a mystic. Historical figures exist in historical flow. It would also be meaningful to evaluate a person in a continuity that influences future generations. Bacon's and Swedenborg's (esoteric) topics may also be identified within the flow of continuity to early modern times. Thanks for your efforts and great job!
@ForbiddenHistories3 жыл бұрын
You're too kind, Bomin! Bacon and Swedenborg were very different in many regards, but the link you make is an interesting one. I don't think one can understand the Enlightenment unless one engages with responses to Swedenborg by leading intellectuals like Kant in Germany and Joseph Priestley in England. I'm sure you've seen this already, but others who may read this comment might find this interesting: aeon.co/ideas/ghosts-visions-and-near-death-experiences-can-be-therapeutic. Anyway, you probably guessed it already: there will be at least one episode dedicated to the Swedenborg discourse during and after the Enlightenment.
@Danster822 жыл бұрын
Bacon is still way ahead of his time even today. For we should be applying science to the study of the mind/consciousness which has largely been ignored because it doesn't fit ideologys of the current materialistic scientific establishment.
@schmuckpuppet48422 жыл бұрын
Magic represents two sides of the same coin: the manipulation of the mind on the one hand, and material world on the other. They have been practised side by side throughout the last few centuries. You can see the bitter fruits of these labors in the current "pandemic".
@richardpaschal2218 Жыл бұрын
Exactly what Dean Radin, Gary Schwartz, Marjorie Wollacott and other professors/scientists are doing. The Academy for Postmaterialist Sciences.
@PlatosPodcasts3 жыл бұрын
I wonder what you think of the thesis that the lasting significance of Bacon, aside from the empiricism, is his stress on analytical reason. This could lead him to conclude that machine functioning should be the model for human thinking. “The mind must not be left to take its own course, but must be guided at every step, and the business be done as if by machinery,” in the Novum Organum preface. This seeded the idea that machines would exceed humans, and began a gradual losing touch with the cosmos as organism, and hence in time the occult became the superstitious as well.
@ForbiddenHistories3 жыл бұрын
I'd say any thesis is only as good as the concrete evidence supporting it, and you have to deal with a lot of messy local contexts and complexities when researching history. I'm not sure if I understand what you mean when you say Bacon "seeded" ideas (in whose mind/s?). But when Bacon speaks of guidance of the mind, he typically means religion and scripture. Also, the obsession with machines and clockworks that was so typical of Bacon's time was certainly not motivated by any kind of reductionistic let alone materialistic impulse (I recommend Shapin's "The Scientific Revolution" for the wider context). Cartesian mechanism was explicitly aimed at driving the spirit out of nature, as Descartes, Bacon, and later Boyle abhorred hylozoism as pagan nature worship. But rather than eliminating spirit altogether, figureheads of the Scientific Revolution sought to separate it from creation to put it on a pedestal according to their theistic priorities. I hope to address this in future videos, but the conflation of the occult with the supernatural (Hume, etc.) during the Enlightenment can't be understood without looking at ongoing political upheavals, which again were inseparable from fundamental religious disputes. Does that make any sense? I hope I didn't misunderstand you!
@PlatosPodcasts3 жыл бұрын
@@ForbiddenHistories Thanks. The split, if that's the right word, between creator and created does make sense (if that's the theistic priorities), and how that comes with the Reformation (I think participation of nature in the divine is a good characterisation of the medieval world.) Similarly, reason/ratio becomes uncouple from intellectus or contemplation because the reforners were wary of the human mind. So reason becomes a law unto itself, in part to preserve divine revelation as above human reason. Notwithstanding historical detail, I wonder if that broadly makes sense?
@ForbiddenHistories3 жыл бұрын
@@PlatosPodcasts Yes, though claims of divine revelation would become an even bigger bone of contention than before. I’ll address this in a video on “Enthusiasm”, the pejorative label early moderns used to attack any type of revelation that bypassed scripture and God-given reason (the Enthusiasm controversy is also very important for an appreciation of Enlightenment responses to trance and other altered states of consciousness). And I certainly think it makes sense to speak of a “Cartesian cut”. Once you neatly segregate spirit from nature, it’s much easier to deny the former and then pretend “materialism” was the supposed default metaphysics of science all along, though it wasn’t before the early twentieth century that this became more or less a mainstream university culture in the West. Not at all what Descartes, Boyle, etc. had in mind!
@PlatosPodcasts3 жыл бұрын
@@ForbiddenHistories Thank you. I will be listening to more!
@jameshowells3 жыл бұрын
New to the channel, very interesting. Are you looking to create a video on Newton and his alchemical history?
@ForbiddenHistories3 жыл бұрын
Welcome and thanks! Newton's alchemy will certainly be mentioned a few times, but for the time being I'd rather focus on stuff that's not as widely known as this. Even Newton's Wikipedia entry isn't terribly off in this regard, which says something. :) But please feel free to continue making suggestions!
@josemiguel48373 жыл бұрын
Do you plan to cover Steiner's body of work at some point? You're content is great, I hope to see the channerl grow!
@ForbiddenHistories3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I'm no expert on Steiner and have plenty of material on folks who were more directly linked with modern science than he was. So for the time being, a Steiner video is not in the cards, though I will certainly mention him more than once!
@josemiguel48373 жыл бұрын
@@ForbiddenHistories Whatever you're putting out I'm in, keep up the good work
@ForbiddenHistories3 жыл бұрын
@@josemiguel4837 Many thanks!
@koenvanvlaenderen55682 жыл бұрын
O well, Carl Sagan, not exactly a source for clear philosophical analysis. What I would like to understand better is Bacon's notion of 'inductive reasoning' and why this notion was an improvement with respect to Aristotle's deductive reasoning. What was Bacon's innovative influence on the modern method of scientific research? If I understand correctly, Bacon's inductive reasoning is not to reason from A to B, but to decide if A is a more fundamental principle/property of 'natural philosophy' than B, and how to find 'true' principles that are fundamental premises that cannot be deduced from even more fundamental premises. The method of scientific research 'evolved' out of more archaic ideas about 'natural philosophy'. Ockham's razor is a good one, and the requirement of a repeatable and reproducible (by others) experimental procedure is another one. A scientific publication must satisfy a set of requirements, such as originality, and how did Bacon contribute to this? The art of drawing conclusions from experimental results, the art of putting into words a certain testable hypothesis, the art of understanding the artificial aspects of whatever exact theory and to remain unbiased, it could all be improved by being aware of Bacon's ideas and his contributions to natural philosophy.
@ElliottHall Жыл бұрын
Of fencing experts he remarked that they were masters of a science or art which when they needed it they did not know how to employ, adding that there was something presumptuous in their seeking to reduce to infallible mathematical formulas the angry thoughts and impulses of their adversaries. - Cervantes, El licenciado vidriera. 1613. The epigraph from Peter Dear's, "A Mechanical Microcosm: bodily passions, good manners, and cartesian mechanism", chapter 2 in Science Incarnate: Historical embodiments of natural knowledge. edited by christopher lawrence and steven shapin. 1998.
@arthurriechert64733 жыл бұрын
Can you imagine if he had known about quantum physics and the holographic universe theory? He really would have embraced "magical thinking."
@margaretkiernan99572 жыл бұрын
I think he did he knew about. spritual awaking
@HeavyMetalRuinedMyLife1971a Жыл бұрын
Earth is observably level contained and motionless AND space doesn't exist 😎
@terrantsang1016 Жыл бұрын
Highly underrated Channel!
@ElliotBrownJingles2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant stuff! Very glad I discovered this channel and I get the feeling this will become very popular.
@AshleyYakeley3 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure his lifespan was not "1617-1621".
@ForbiddenHistories3 жыл бұрын
oops... thanks for spotting!
@darkerlaugh73253 жыл бұрын
I have a book " The Age Of Enlightenment" Francis Bacon speaks to through and makes sense with words for .....idk people like me
@AdolfStalin3 жыл бұрын
Want a video on Paul Feyerabend
@kyoung21b2 жыл бұрын
Nice video though just to nitpick since I have nothing better to do, I thought Whewell was pronounced “Who-ell” - and speaking of Whewell he apparently thought of himself as spreading the Baconian gospel (though via his rather idiosyncratic mix of induction/deduction)
@Rico-Suave_11 ай бұрын
Watched all of it 22:54
@luisfbjunqueira58373 жыл бұрын
Wonderful video. Thanks Andreas!
@hotepyatusabes2853 жыл бұрын
Keep making these and thank you in advance YaTuSabes 🙌🏾
@franciscamarin66762 жыл бұрын
Such interesting videos, thank you very much for sharing your knowledge! I am a bit confused about the relationship between alchemy and magic, and how the modern science erase them both, if you can go in deeper details! thanks again!
@Dynaboy12 жыл бұрын
Hello sir, I'm studying Alchemy and they say that each element/object has a spirit. They have discovered this with alchemy, it's basically transmutation from impure to pure. Example you have a water and if you boil it, air will become moist and you will have pure destilates water. Same can happen with any stone, herbs and everything around us. Some of the Alchemists started to do wicked ways to play with blood, bones, hair and even alchemists don't want to discuss what might happen as a result. Alchemy is art of nature and they play with 4 basic elements, water, fire, air and earth.
@Kenneth_H_Olsen Жыл бұрын
But there should be a differenciation about lets say a murder scene and someone can "feel" the incident, like as if emotionally identify with the horror of the victim, and sense the electric tension, stored upon the perimeter, as a capacitor stores electrical information. Is different than asking a demon that if summoned into presence or into the body itself. Speakin echoes of the deluded mind, where rational does not interfere . The Emotional electric idenfication, that the killer imprinted on the atmospheric molecules, is a charged nature, and can be read by interpreters of the arts . Of Electrical Displacement stored onto matter in atomic form . And when so happens Call upon the Lord, Jesus save us from unholyness . And be our shield from chaos ! Like the 7th sense of a cats fur, it can charge electricity on its fur, and sense atmospheric pressure, as it moves from one area, into another .
@Ratnoseterry3 жыл бұрын
I can tell already I'm going to thoroughly enjoy your channel
@theinfohoarder3 ай бұрын
really amazing presentation tqvm
@Rico-Suave_Ай бұрын
Great video, thank you very much , note to self(nts) watched twice 22:25
@xmaseveeve52592 жыл бұрын
The specky shill in the ad is an FTM CIA Agent who also played a 'Mormon' with multiple 'wives'. Time's too vast for 'aliens'. Watch the full 3hr+ movie: 'Ancient Aliens Debunked'. It's a masterpiece.
@thomasslone19643 жыл бұрын
back then they knew something until it was disproven, today we dont know things until they are proven, the difference is we have to tools to make actual measurements
@robbalink9 ай бұрын
His birth & date death in this vid makes me wonder hmm?
@bominkim5864 Жыл бұрын
Dear Andreas, Your channel seems to be monetized now. Glad to know that!
@ForbiddenHistories Жыл бұрын
Not yet! 😅
@bominkim5864 Жыл бұрын
@@ForbiddenHistories Hope it will be monetized soon!
@timeWaster762 жыл бұрын
And bacon goes on to say about dead reanimating ... ... "be it natural than it must be refereed to imagination.
@richardpaschal2218 Жыл бұрын
Richard the Lionheart in 1187 won the war against his Father Henry II. The final battle was at Le Mans. Henry retreated to the Angevin Castle at Chinon and passed on. His body was taken to the Abbaye du Fontrevault. Richard went to see his Father's body. It was reported Richard stood by Henry's feet and blood then came out of Henry's nose.
@troytice83543 жыл бұрын
You're on fire, Andreas!
@ForbiddenHistories3 жыл бұрын
More like running on fumes, lol...
@peapod82 жыл бұрын
Not a scientist but a philosopher on science...
@SamFootballnG2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant work a side to bacon I was only vauge with
Well one thing is certain, you have never read Bacon, you reveal this be your ignorance of his total works.
@oobrocks3 жыл бұрын
I wonder if this host believes in god(s)
@SP-ny1fk2 жыл бұрын
Any light coming into the world comes out of the darkness.
@skysharksingh2 жыл бұрын
King James Bible author ✍️
@Liam-nf1dp2 жыл бұрын
Yup
@reubenwilliams91 Жыл бұрын
Nope, most definitely not 😑 could you explain?
@timeWaster762 жыл бұрын
Oh brother ! Using a quot from bacon to support your cognitive bias.
@Thutmosis72 жыл бұрын
He got it from the moors who were african people
@MikeHunt-fo3ow2 жыл бұрын
moors were white though..........as were alot oh pharohs......70percent of uk men got king tut dna
@Thutmosis72 жыл бұрын
@@MikeHunt-fo3ow that cocaine got you mess up. None of the pharaohs were white.
@MikeHunt-fo3ow2 жыл бұрын
@@Thutmosis7 yea blonde and red hair.....so was ghengis kahn....in fact they found some very tall red hair folks out there......checkout robert sepehr channel if youre interested
@unatwomey7112 Жыл бұрын
Moors meant Black in Bacon's time. See Othello written by Shakespeare at the same time Bacon was alive. We all have the same ancestors, Bacon would have liked the science. See Dr Adam Rutherford. Wouldn't have meant Moors were white, but that we've mixed ancestry in Europe. White's a misnomer.
@YourBoyJohnny94 Жыл бұрын
@@unatwomey7112 moors was a generic term that Spaniards used for Muslims. most moors were Arabs/Berbers, there were black moors who were eunuchs in the service of Muslim leaders.
@oobrocks3 жыл бұрын
Bacon invented inductive reasoning the Backbone of the scientific method. Sagan wouldn't argee he was perfect, unlike this dude. Not did Francis know everything, unlike this genius. Maybe this perfect man ought to revolutionize the world.
@AdolfStalin3 жыл бұрын
Dude you got some kind of problem?
@timeWaster762 жыл бұрын
@@AdolfStalin You're the one with a problem.....
@timeWaster762 жыл бұрын
At the heart of deductive reasoning is inductive reasoning... the ancients missed that .. "All men are mortal ".... is a conclusion of inductive reasoning" Mostly I found the idea the Bacon has something to offer as a a justification for believing nonsense. Newton spent most of his life on nonsense.