Frank Herbert gets a little kinky in this one...

[@howardmiller5381]

Whipping Star is absolutely one of my most favorite Frank Herbert novels. The Dosadi Experiment, and another novel, The Jesus Incident, touch on many of the same themes that are present in the Dune novels.

[@KonoShunkan]

This is one of the most enjoyable talks on an SF book I've ever heard. I've always loved this book (I have the NEL edition with the fantastic "dominatrix" cover)-it's packed with incredible ideas and concepts, and as you say, the writing is immaculate. BuSAB is probably my favourite creation of a political/enforcement organisation in SF. The concept really had an impact on me (I used to make electronic music and used "Bureau of Sabotage" as one of the artist names. It's a great name for a band!). Speaking of Herbert's wit and humour, which you rightly compare with PKD, I think this dry, smart and sometimes ironic humour was very much a hallmark of SF writers of the day. People like Fritz Leiber, Robert Sheckley, Roger Zelazny spring to mind, and many others. This made their work a pleasure to read for reading's sake. You really don't seem to get that any more; the last for me was probably Iain Banks-and now I think of it, the Culture and Consentience really resonate together.

[@LiminalSpaces03]

I'd go see a band called "Bureau of Sabotage"!

[@pigsrscary]

Me and my wife found your channel and now we cant stop watching! I have a bunch of books I want to read now thanks to you ✨🧡

[@LiminalSpaces03]

Welcome aboard!

[@ancientalien000]

just found your channel and have been looking to get into sci-fi novels after a huge dry spell in reading. your reviews are great & i'm getting a long to-read list from them :^)

[@LiminalSpaces03]

Welcome aboard!

[@brianstiles1701]

Frank's non_Dune stuff is so diverse and displays a guy who was really good at grasping different concepts and telling stories about them. The closest living author we have in this regard (in my opinion) is Kim Stanley Robinson.

[@MettleHurlant]

I read The Dosadi Experiment and it was both difficult to follow and got me interested in sociology. I haven’t read Whipping Star yet.

[@keithklassen5320]

The Dosadi Experiment was the first Herbert book I was able to finish; I tried Dune as a teen but couldn't get into it at the time, but this book was so fascinating that I couldn't stop reading it. The theme of different cultures clashing and constantly trying to understand everyone else's motivations on a moment-to-moment basis was really interesting to me, as someone who grew up isolated in a very different culture from the one around me.

[@Tharnout549]

I thought The Dosadi experiment was hard to get into. I hacked my way through it, but it didn't leave much of an impression. I was really too young to enjoy it though. I didn't care much for Dune until I was in my 40s.

[@MrMojoRisin13]

Look at that SWEET shelf of DAW paperbacks!! I am nostalgically aroused lol

[@LiminalSpaces03]

You're the first to notice! Trying to collect the first 200

[@lsporter88]

You're right, that is indeed quite unusual. And quite fascinating. I did see, "True Detective", and that might actually be how we would see our dimension from a superposition. I think Frank might have borrowed his human body to grace us with his books before moving on. Thanks for bringing this to light, I'll have to read it one of these days.

[@WonHyo69]

Whipping Star is one of my all time fave books and have read it more times than I've read read Dune and that's saying something.

[@fetbetty]

Whipping star, very good story, as is dosadi experiment and the dragon in the sea

[@spiralsun1]

This. Found a lot of good stuff on his videos including a Frank Herbert book I haven’t read 😮❤ THANKS ❤

[@cupidstunt8136]

I found dragon in the sea and the Santaroga Barrier were excellent books about psychic threats by Frank Herbert. God Emperor of Dune was one of favourites too, even if it was comparatively simple compared to Dune. As for whipping star....I just could not get into it in spite of anyones recommendations

[@patreekotime4578]

The mythos of True Detective Seaon One is from The King in Yellow by Robert W. Chambers... Lovecraft loved it and included references to it in a few of his stories... so it is considered part of Lovecraft's larger cosmic horror mythos. I'm reading it now along with a book of Lovecraft stories. Ive only gotten through the first chapter of the King in Yellow, but the tone of it is not quite Post Apocalyptic, but is sort of "speculative fiction" that includes concepts like a future Fascist America that is obsessed with medieval warfare and includes science fiction concepts like a state-sanctioned automated suicide chamber... (those are mentioned in the first 2 pages so they arnt spoilers) written in 1895 it almost certainly had influence beyond Lovecraft and horror writers. And chairdogs find their way into the latter Dune books! They are creepy as heck!

[@BabaGStar]

Chair dogs are also a name for a chair that is hinted at in Dune Heretic. I can’t remember if any of the previous books have them mentioned.

[@starq3201]

They’re in more than one of the Dune series. They are living organisms that serve as chairs.

[@BabaGStar]

@@starq3201 some much to read I can barely remember. The instance I’m referring to doesn’t refer to them as sentient directly but through others emotion. Comically eerie.

[@aSinnerMan7]

Chair dog appears in Heretic for the first time.

[@BabaGStar]

@@aSinnerMan7 good chair

[@whiteegretx]

I liked the video just because of that joke in the beginning

[@JRussellDay]

The voidship series by Herbert is fantastic! Highly underrated.

[@JRussellDay]

Oh yes and bill Ransom

[@ryanbenson4610]

999 views! And well deserved. Keep up the great work! Edit: I love old sci-fi book covers. Awesome art.

[@danialafzali2644]

Can you please do more deep reading videos, i find them very intriguing to watch.

[@paulblase3955]

Some suggestions for classic SF book reviews: Zelazny's Amber series; Harry Harrison's Stainless Steel Rat series, his West of Eden series, and his Deathworld trilogy; and anything by Louise McMaster Bujold.

[@john-r-edge]

You ever looked at FH's trilogy which is set in Universe set up by Destination Void.?? FH wrote Destination Void on his own Then there is a trilogy following up Destinatoon Void co-written by Bill Ransome The Jesus Incident The Lazarus Effect The Ascension Factor

[@Jim-be8sj]

Good one. It's been a long time since I read that. I think you will like The Dosadi Experiment too.

[@laktisandpipik9265]

I found "The Godmakers" in a trash can when I was fifteen. That's when I got my first dose (adi) of Herbert. Read that and "Dragon in the Sea" before I ever heard of Dune.

[@perkytxgirl]

I read this long long time ago and yeah I didn’t remember it was by Frank Herbert, even though I remember the book fairly well.

[@wicky4473]

I’ve had all of Herbert’s books over the years, and I wish I still had them! I’m 66 now, and I’ve recently just bought a bunch of used Herbert books to replenish my old library.

[@LiminalSpaces03]

Loosing books is terrible, but rebuilding libraries is always fun!

[@wicky4473]

@@LiminalSpaces03 true, albeit a lot more expensive! 😆

[@leerhode1021]

Has anyone read Frank Herbert’s “Hellstrom’s Hive”? It’s a great syfy novel that I have never heard discussed.

[@JosephRocco-mi4cm]

Yes. I thought it was ok, at first. I've since grown to really like it.

[@leerhode1021]

@@JosephRocco-mi4cm Thanks, I’m glad I’m not the only one.

[@leerhode1021]

@@JosephRocco-mi4cm I have re-read it several times in the past few decades, and I always glean something I might not have picked up on previous readings. Always an entertaining read.

[@paulblase3955]

I've always wanted to see a movie version of this one.

[@LCInstrumentals]

Cool review, I've read Whipping Star but your video helped me see parts that I missed at the time. Anyway I've just ordered a chairdog off of Amazon, can't wait to sit on it!

[@LiminalSpaces03]

Hahaha! Everyone needs a chairdog!

[@susanbooth6793]

The thing about Herbert is the variety of his novels, all beautifully written (and researched) but all different and very strange. I don't exactly like all of them - count me out after 'Dune Messiah' - they all have their fans and all are damn interesting. For me, the highlights, include 'Under Pressure' aka 'Dragon in the Sea' aka '21st Century Sub', an intense psychological thriller about an advanced submarine on a mission with five people aboard; one of them is an enemy agent and one an agent assigned to identify and stop said enemy saboteur. You've covered 'Whipping Star' so just to add 'The Dorsadi Experiment' is almost as good. 'Dune" and 'Dune Messsiah' are incredible on so many levels. Finally, I need to mention 'Hellstrom's Hive' a brilliant horror novel that I will not have in the house as I might be tempted to read it again when I only have to think about it to feel as sick as I did when I read it some more than 40 years ago....

[@LiminalSpaces03]

Great break down of his work!

[@disconnected22]

Dosadi is one of my favorite sci fi covers ever

[@pantalones]

I loved the joke! 😂

[@merrickc.155]

Thank you for introducing me fto the novel. I just found my next real!! Im glad i found this channel.

[@LiminalSpaces03]

We're glad you found us!

[@paulblase3955]

"The Green Brain"

[@tomspencer1364]

The Dosadi Experiment is very good. Creative and Original. "Arm yourself when the Frog God smiles."

[@williamhosford2796]

Cool video and...love your t-shirt!

[@LiminalSpaces03]

Thanks!

[@jemhoare2105]

Sapience is the ability to think (most humans), sentience is the ability to feel (most animals), although sci-fi authors get a little loose with the definitions.