Frank Luntz talks to Arizona election doubters for CBS News

[@infinitewisdomwithin]

The problem with this forum is that there is no one simple fix for the doubts these voters express. Frankly, there is no voting system that can cure conspiratorial thinking, which is irrational, illogical, inconsistent, and a hallmark of a person who feels angry, worried, insecure, and inferior. We need so much more mental health care and wellness in our nation. To even begin to logistically address the doubts expressed by the group, we would need one uniform voting system and one set of rules, used by all states and counties. I’m thinking our national constitution would need to be amended or states could come together and agree to adopt common voter ID databases and guidelines. We should listen to each other, but coddling a person riddled with irrational thinking is not a long term answer. I have made progress in my own life when I have been open and honest enough to recognize that I can make errors in thinking (admit I could be wrong). We need stiff penalties enforced on anyone engaging in fraud or attempting to interfere with or intimidate elections officials. Votes cast before Election Day should be counted by Election Day. There is really no good reason to wait.

[@sohu86x]

8:25 basically he says "I will vote for a 2 year old in 2024 and I'm proud of it!"

[@jjboys215]

If "they" would've won, they wouldn't be complaining...

[@JakobROsser]

I didn’t vote Republican, but the optics were terrible. You have to restore faith that the process is fair, even if they lose.

[@jakobrosser7587]

While that is true, you ignoring their grievances isn’t helping anyone.

[@canonfodder6966]

@@jakobrosser7587 9:28 when the guy says this id like to ask him 'who benefits from all the doubt?' because the answer is trump. Then i would follow up with 'Where does all the doubt come from?' Which again the answer is trump. As an outsider who has a different perspective (aus) i look at it more broadly than each individual issue and theres a clear pattern. Im not sure what institutions could do at this point to convince people of that election. To me it seemed straight forward, the mail in votes got counted later than in person and that why there were vote 'dumps' late in the night. The fact trump got up to say they needed to stop counting etc etc to me seems way more deserving of scrutiny to me. He made a consistant effort to leverage the election for months in advance going back to his promise of 'making the post office great again' by ripping out drop boxes and cutting overtime to interfere with the process of mail in ballots etc. The fact he got up and said stop counting when he did to me shows he didnt care about the true results and had no intention of abiding them. Also it should be noted that while trump offers no actual evidence his focus is always just dont believe them.. What if we took Sydney powells 'grievance' at face value ? The hugo chavez conspiracy, i bet if the election was overturned based on that no one questioning the 'truth' now would be questioning that nonsense, because trump would be back in power.... case closed.

[@Tapin4pardude]

Your 100% correct. They are delusional and just because Trump and his gang of liars told you lies about the election you gobble it up like a fat kid loves cake!! It’s disappointing that sooo many are disconnected from reality.

[@Derek-d5097]

@@jakobrosser7587 Their grievances are based on nothing but ignorance and stupidity. If they lost faith in the election process because they are too gullible to believe the words of con-artists, then that's on them. In conservative words: Facts don't care about your feelings. So their grievances (aka feelings) for the election does not matter in the slightest.

[@johannthomas5712]

does frank luntz leave these idiotic republicans without telling them the truth.

[@malcolmbliss777]

Always. Like Mueller, at the end of the day, both of them wanted Trump in the White House. BJ? Bill Clinton has to testify under oath. Trump has people on his staff using Putin’s help to win the social media war that won him the 2016 election? They didn’t even question him NOT under oath. Luntz is trying to smoke the Dems, so he can say “see: we’re trying to tame the insane Trumpers” - when he does no such thing. He doesn’t once tell these people just how much shit they’re full of. Luntz and Mueller are both just as bad as Fox News and Trump himself.

[@jermainennis8644]

Arev these folks aware of the anger majority of the voter felt towards Trump for mishandling everything he touched?

[@canonfodder6966]

they arent real americans, they probaly arent even going to see sound of freedom

[@robertgraves580]

Don't believe your own eyes! Believe what Frank Luntz tells you. 😂😅

[@englanduk6131]

​@@robertgraves580😂😂I wouldn't believe that idiot if he said the sky was blue!

[@blackout07blue]

Lady at the end goes on a rant about “we’re all Americans and Cubans want to come here so don’t forget that and don’t be like other countries”…as she her Republican election-denying self tries to make us like Cuba and other authoritarian countries that don’t adhere to election results.

[@jacksonmarshallkramer5087]

The judge just recently sided with Kari Lake on the signature verification issue. The judge said that the verification law was not followed.

[@williamvangvang2618]

This is a joke. Corrupt

[@sasha-stone]

Much of the country has been thrown away like human garbage by much of our culture, media and corporate class. It's wrong. I'm glad Frank did this. It was a kind-hearted thing to do.

[@blackout07blue]

These republicans looked like idiots. Frank did a good job of showing how delusional, misinformed, and simple-minded most of this bunch is. Bravo to Frank. These are some gullible nutjobs but at least they fake-crow about civility.

[@canonfodder6966]

meanwhile the right stokes the fires of division more and more because it suits their needs. How long are you going to coddle these entitled people and pour resource into placating them while your country falls apart and homeless people die on the street. Its not what you say, its whos saying it. They just want to maintain doubt so they dont have to ackowledge the fact trump lied to them.

[@rabd3721]

Do you think these same people have "kind-hearted" feelings toward trans people? Gay people? Immigrants seeking asylum?

[@sasha-stone]

@@rabd3721 Some of them do, yes. Gay people and trans people aren't seen equally anymore on the Right because of trans fanaticism of late.

[@sasha-stone]

@@rabd3721 They are worried about illegal immigrants. I've never seen them treat them badly as you on the left thing they do.

[@courtneybrubaker9738]

These are so revealing and shocking to me. But important to take the pulse.

[@22brew80]

I’d love to see a poll on what media these people use to get their news…

[@meganalves9967]

I’m an independent voter and sorry 2020 election night and days that followed were some of the most chaotic I’ve witnessed.

[@blackout07blue]

Not really. What was chaotic about it. It was over by about 3am. There was no chaos. It was over. The final results always take days. We had the winner.

[@canonfodder6966]

if trump had conceded instead of getting up and saying he won when he didnt on election night like every other losing candidate has done in the past then it would have gone like every election had of gone in the past. The thing that made this one different was trumps actions. He seeded doubt in the lead up to it and his actions alone were what turned a run of the mill election night into an ongoing saga.

[@TruthDefined4life]

You should know that some states like Pennsylvania doesn't allow the early vote to be tallied until after ALL ballots are cast. This is the reason why it takes them so long. Wisconsin does the same thing. DJT knows this, but he still LIED to the American people.

[@zachcochran5738]

Look at all the hate on this comment thread. That’s why they doubt the election. Why would they listen to people who have so much hate in their hearts, about any topic

[@dh5380]

For hundreds of years, most politicians, have gone by the philosophy that less is more in terms of speaking on the issues

[@toneyingram732]

U can't tell fools nothing

[@karlhungus5554]

'Murica. Freedumb.

[@sbonventure]

Isn't it sad that conversations such as these aren't commonplace? I was extremely moved by Frank's interview with Frontline, very sincere and heartfelt. An exemplary American.

[@jonRboy]

What's sad is that this conversation had to exist in the first place. I'm a U.S. citizen, and have been voting in federal, state and local elections since the mid '70's. Only since Trump and Trumpism has been a part of the mix has all this 'election doubting' been on the scene. It's all due to Trump and his big lie. I expect more from these Republican voters and it's distressing that a lot or most of them are more like 4 year olds who think there's a monster in their closet rather than adults of voting age.

[@robertgraves580]

Don't believe what you see with your own eyes. Believe what Frank Luntz tells you!

[@lynnturman8157]

Nobody talked about the elephant in the room: fox news

[@MeYesme-q2c]

81 million votes, my ass.

[@TruthDefined4life]

That number is unquestionable. I know it's hard to understand, but the fact is most Americans voted AGAINST Donald.

[@joshbazon2764]

Conspiracy thinking undermines democratic values.

[@shalonsmith3653]

There is no fixing this

[@jacksonmarshallkramer5087]

Paper ballots and day of election voting. Just like in 1950.

[@tuckfrump849]

Not a very diverse group of people. I wonder why that never comes up in the conversation.

[@DanaDRichards]

I'm from Arizona my vote was lost I have no trust in the system it BS .

[@noahremnek3615]

Then don’t vote

[@DanaDRichards]

@@noahremnek3615 I'm going the author was I'll be voting 6 time

[@robertgraves580]

Fool me once shame on you... full me twice shame on me!

[@jonathonahlgren4451]

1st - Love your work Frank! Stay healthy! 😊

[@alexandercampbell9178]

Is his name Major or is he a Major?

[@tombest6283]

Frank, I don't know what you did during your sabbatical (I know you were working away), but you came back ready to fight for what we need. Thanks!

[@charlesljones2454]

Yhats the thing .....frank lutz ne er gact checks anybody .....on any point.

[@pitpride1220]

Let's talk about you skewing your own polls Frank. You're still working for conservatives

[@donnasmoak9065]

There are billions of people that agree that it was stolen Billions of people can't be wrong

[@joeponcakia]

"Would you be proud of your grandchild if he acted like Trump"...Substitute President instead of Grandchild and my answer would be 'extremely proud". He has stood up to and defended himself against everything the establishment has thrown at him. I admire his energy, tenacity and courage to fight them to the very end without ever quitting. That is the man I want for President.

[@Tapin4pardude]

What you see is a liar, snake oil salesman and con man. You’ve been led to believe he fights for you. He only cares about himself. Deep down, you know this is true. Way too many examples of how he threw everyone who disagreed with him away. Pence, Mitch, countless Trump appointees. Let’s see a Trump supporter be invited to join his Marlago 💩 hole or any of his golf courses. Won’t happen. Said he was going to join his insurrectionists to the Capitol. He didn’t. He didn’t bail or pardon any of them. He has shown you but you refuse to accept reality. You’re in a cult. Get help.

[@yanstev]

Extremely proud of a President who attacked the foundational principles of a democracy with lies and proven disinformation? I think I see the problem...

[@bridgettedenise]

Recall

[@blackout07blue]

Like the 2022 midterms? LOL

[@roystonmason9125]

Rethuglickin Klanservative Hickocritical mess

[@tuckfrump849]

Not a very diverse group of people. I wonder why that never comes up in the conversation.

[@tuckfrump849]

Not a very diverse group of people. I wonder why that never comes up in the conversation.