"FRANKENSTEIN" (1931): The Infamous Censored Scenes

In 1931, individual state censor boards demanded various cuts to "Frankenstein."
But two passages in particular were universally condemned.
One was a quote by Henry Frankenstein at the end of the creation scene.
The second occurs when the Monster meets little Maria.
The confused Monster believes that Maria will float like the flowers.
The censored version ended with him reaching for her.
The two censored scenes were finally rediscovered and restored in the 1980s.
I neither own nor claim any rights to this material. Just having some fun with it. Thanks for watching!

[@TTony-tu6dm]

There’s an interesting behind the scenes story about Karloff’s relationship with the young actress. Gentleman that he was, he was very concerned that she would be terrified of him in his makeup. He was able, through kindness and gentleness, to alleviate her fear and they developed a strong bond.

[@redblade8160]

T. Tony Karloff was only trying to gain her confidence in him so that he could drown her in the river later on!

[@oo0Spyder0oo]

@@redblade8160 haha nice one.

[@ladycavalier]

aaaaaw

[@bobbyfrancis8957]

But I read, years ago that Boris went to Groucho Marx's house in full Frankie makeup, and really scared him!

[@x60hz]

@@bobbyfrancis8957 He should have brought a film crew with him!!

[@covidisahoax2438]

This is all Pennywise's fault. He told Franky "They all float!" he's such a damn liar.

[@johnLennon255]

Corny

[@garysandiego]

I’ve not seen these scenes before. Totally changes the movie. And makes it a better movie. Big change.

[@indridcold8433]

There is an unknown scene on the Wizard of Oz often not seen unless you have the laserdisk addition. When the scarecrow is taken down from his post, he sings his song like in the normal version but then starts springing off the fences back and forth. The fence rungs were large elastic bands that sprung him back and forth between fences. I wonder if it can be found on KZbin also. Time for a search.

[@garysandiego]

@@indridcold8433 I had seen that. And frankly, I thought it was out of place, added nothing to the character of the Scarecrow, and broke the plausibility of the physical world that was Oz. I thought it was a good decision to cut it.

[@RobertC4458]

@@indridcold8433 That longer version of that scene was included on the 50th Anniversary VHS ( Videotape ) release ( released 1989. ) [ Also may have been on the, later, DVD, release. ] See this link, to watch it: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qYSpgqyVmLGpgrc .

[@RobertC4458]

@@garysandiego Agreed. Shows off Ray Bolger's ( "The Scarecrow" ) dancing skills, but - slows down the overall pace of the movie. Better the way they ( the filmmakers ) edited it. Sort of like, but - did NOT get cut - the song "If I Were King of the Forest" [ sung by "The Cowardly Lion" ( Bert Lahr. } ] That's another one that should have been cut, or at least shortened.

[@adrianovasconcelos2739]

Popnecker, a million thanks for providing this info regarding restored scenes. They add massive significance, especially the one where Dr Frankenstein says he now knows what it is to be God.

[@baronvonchickenpants6564]

I was waiting for the herman munster laugh after he chucked the girl in

[@realherbalism1017]

You could see the confusion & consternation on the monster's face after he realized she wasn't going to float. He knew he had done something wrong.

[@daveshen0880]

Wow. I remember that scene, back in 90s. I saw that movie on tv channel.

[@Garsons-oq4lh]

Marilyn Harris (1924-1999) [on not doing personal appearances] "As far as Frankenstein goes, I have a theory: that people remember the sweet, innocent little girl. And I think its cruel to put an older woman up there. It would destroy it for me, and I don't think its fair. That little girl should be remembered as she was - loving, and trusting. That's my belief."

[@BlookbugIV]

I remember the monster throwing the girl into the water when I watched it as a kid on British tv, probably the early 80s, maybe late 70s.

[@tomitstube]

this movie was pre-code. they didn't really start censoring until 1934. originally these scenes were cut by state boards in massachusetts, new york, and pennslyvannia, apparently studio's had to negotiate with individual states about showing their film. kansas wanted to cut 32 scenes.. i can't confirm this but it seems these scenes were cut by the studio around 1934 when the code was in full force. and many of these scenes were discarded never realizing that years later they would be highly sought after.

[@fais6964]

Now works as a swim coach, for under 10s

[@ghanasoul]

So THIS was the throwin the girl in the lake scene I’ve been readin bout for years?!! That’s nothing! Comparing this to Friday the 13th and Halloween, this scene is Walt Disney! The first edit i get cuz he said he knew how it felt to play God. Thats kind of a powerful line even today.

[@bigislander72]

However graphic all the FTT movies are like comedies to me; the outlandish deaths and silly plot are so comical to me. I still love those flicks but in a different way. This movie, while far less graphic is much more mentally disturbing imo...same for a lot of the original twilight zone episodes

[@Incomudro1963]

You've missed the intention of the scene.

[@yvettee3828]

I can see why these scene's were cut

[@jameshaskell1073]

I like the first scene. Makes sense in the movie. I think the second scene is best cut out. You are left imagining what he did to her. Everyone creates their own horror in their heads.

[@jefferyjones5167]

Censorship! Ruining books, movies, music, etc. for waaaay too long!

[@adamscott2580]

Watch Birth of A Nation and you will realize censorship was not exactly evenly distributed. Earlier distribution for film but I would say somewhat less limiting in exposing viewers to violence just on a different type of victim.

[@ProstWithTheMostBabe]

Mel Brooks used the original set in Young Frankenstein!!

[@druidia9]

The second scene should be used as a public service advertisement for teaching your children to swim.

[@storbokki371]

... and not talk to strangers.

[@bezoticallyyours83]

Snerk

[@chriscross6045]

I mean, technically he's not wrong. She would float, eventually.

[@ruthjeffery2539]

Haaahahaha, so wrong!

[@zacmumblethunder7466]

That's how they found a missing woman in the canal around the corner from the shop I worked in in 1982. 2 weeks after she was reported missing she bobbed up to the surface like an inflatable raft.

[@marcusmorgan2373]

Lol savage...

[@withgoddess7164]

😨

[@pippishortstocking7913]

😂

[@nycinstyle]

Boris Karloff made viewers in movie theaters feel both fear of him and compassion for him. A brilliant acting performance. There have been many actors over the years who played the Frankenstein monster in many various movies. Karloff is the best, IMO.

[@1wirey]

For those who haven’t read Mary Shelly’s book, do yourself a favor and do so. The movies are fun and I’ve seen most of them, but none have painted the full picture of the creature as described in the book.

[@honeybabou6119]

It's a great read when you're a teen and feel you are not fitting.

[@1wirey]

I understand what you say.

[@paulhorn2665]

You are so right! The book is a masterpiece! Forget the films, these have not much to do with the book!

[@shable1436]

The book goes into much more of his reasoning, emotions, and his point of view, movie glossed over it and was just for scary shock value of the time

[@buddhastaxi666]

The companions of our childhood always possess a certain power over our minds which hardly any later friend can obtain.

[@ahobimo732]

The Monster is such a heartbreaking character. It doesn't want to be the horrific thing that it is. It doesn't even know itself. Imagine being an abomination that should never have been created. That is the real nightmare. The monster is the victim who suffers the most in this story.

[@GotoHere]

You mean like when scientists play with human dna and embryos?

[@kaisimon9894]

instablaster

[@listen13]

And now with the Covidstein "monster", the common cold/flu?

[@menotu000]

@@GotoHere oh FFS go back to sleep.

[@menotu000]

The monster in this film is Frankenstein himself... The creature however, is a truly tragic figure.

[@theactualbajmahal833]

Well at least he proved that Maria wasn't a witch.

[@PnutGalaree]

Agreed... imagine if Maria actually started to swim, which may have been mistakenly misinterpreted as her floating, henceforth thought to be an actual witch... thank goodness she sank! 🤨

[@mjproebstle]

its a fair cop

[@blackcatgraphics1483]

He could've just built a bridge out of her.

[@mjproebstle]

@@blackcatgraphics1483 yes, but aren’t bridges also made out of stone? ...oh yeah...

[@lackdeaver9934]

Maybe she’s a really small pebble.

[@Coolyguy27]

The Monster thought he could recreate the beauty of the flower by tossing the child in. He didn’t want her to die. He wanted her to float like a beautiful flower. . That scene always hit me in the heart. Because I knew he meant well. Beautiful things float on the water. And a great movie that was. Out of all of what they refer to as Monster movies. This Frankenstein movie was the best by far

[@Coolyguy27]

Nelson Robert Willis yes I remember. Lol I am a fan

[@johnrobinsoniii4028]

I agree. The Monster had the mentality of a three-year-old. He didn’t know any better.

[@dstoyano]

And the moral of the novel/movie was that man is not God, though he believes himself to be at times

[@usmale4915]

This is also the movie that saved Universal Studios from "going" under! It's still a great movie.

[@Kermit_T_Frog]

Both cuts were made at the expense of the story telling. I always assumed that the monster simply murdered the child. And man playing God is pretty much the theme of the whole movie. Cutting it eviscerates it.

[@brendanoneill1466]

Karloff's performance was so amazing

[@glencollins2395]

The second scene is a classic example of what you are left to imagine being infinitely worse than what is actually played out on screen.

[@scottbishop6471]

TOTALLY agree

[@cdavid8139]

excellent point

[@t-bo2734]

I would have guessed he ripped her to shreds, picking her apart like petals from a flower.

[@warrenrosen2326]

The first scene also. Trust your audience to understand this as a creation metaphor.

[@vxy357]

@@warrenrosen2326 Keep in mind this was in the 1930's. And putting a character above God was very much frowned upon. Hell, in the 60's, John Lennon of the Beatles got in trouble for eluding that the Beatles were more popular than God.

[@zig_ziggy]

The scenes make far more sense with the cut portions restored.

[@alphagt62]

Turner Classic Movies still shows the edited version, or at least they did last year’s Halloween festival.

[@rogerscollier7424]

@@alphagt62 Never seen these versions. But I agree with you totally

[@viktoriaironpride4977]

By censoring this scene, the censors made the scene far worse than it actually was. The "monster" reaches for the child, then the scene is cut. The next scene is the father carrying the dead body of thischild into the village, and viewers would immediately wonder, "My God--what did he do to her?"

[@pawelpap9]

Actually the cut version is much better as it leaves to viewer’s imagination what horrible thing might have happen. I remember vividly how scary I found it when I was a kid.

[@viktoriaironpride4977]

@@pawelpap9 Yes, what you imagine is usually always worse than what actually happened.

[@tikitavi7120]

It worked when John Wayne threw the kid in the river in Hondo.

[@ProstWithTheMostBabe]

"I'm teachin him to swim!!"

[@isaiahmarquez9717]

@Dirt Track Racing Gaming Videos 🤣

[@badideabearcub2747]

@Dirt Track Racing Gaming Videos LOL

[@kato64]

@Dirt Track Racing Gaming Videos 🤣🤣🤣

[@JENDALL714]

Also when Ted Kennedy crashed his car and left his mistress in the car, while he swam away.

[@googiwaumer]

Great to see. SCARY scene made much more sensible and more in line with Shelley's original sympathetic take on the "monster" as victim thrust unasked into a cruel world he was unprepared for.

[@RussellFlowers]

Jeez Maria, just stand up... like 2 feet of water...

[@TheRisky9]

If she belly flopped, she could have had the wind knocked right out of her. When people have the wind knocked out of them, the first thing they think to do is breath in, which is the wrong thing to do if you're in water.

[@David-cc8xe]

And wth was she asking a complete adult stranger to play anyway?! She was just asking for something bad to happen. Stupid girl

[@TheRisky9]

@@David-cc8xe That's a very narcissistic viewpoint. Where you put that the reason someone is a victim is because the victim did something stupid.

[@Dorkrust]

@@TheRisky9 Stranger danger exists for a reason, a lot of people get themselves killed or assaulted because they do stupid shit at stupid times. Pointing it out isn't narcissistic, its pragmatic if anything. Of course not all victims are so because of their own actions, but a lot of them are, people who travel alone into dangerous countries is a great example of what I mean.

[@CLFmoto87]

She’s 1,11 tall you bastard!

[@HodgdonH110]

Fred Gwynne wouldn't have behaved like that

[@brianmcmillan7426]

He'd have called car 54...

[@pythonflying]

He would have fell in

[@tsopmocful1958]

@@pythonflying And then hollered for Lily and Grandpa to help him.

[@suspiciousminds1750]

@Brad James That's ...so...bad! ;-)

[@raterNAZ]

He would have never thrown the youte in the water like that.

[@BlackheartCharlie]

I love the both the original movie and Mel Brooks homage, Young Frankenstein. The look that Peter Boyle (the monster) gives the camera when little Maria asks "What shall we throw in the well next?" is priceless!

[@zacmumblethunder7466]

PUT'N ON UH RIIIIITZ

[@slcRN1971]

When Boris Karloff as Frankenstein’s monster and that little girl throw in the last flower, I think of that line every time!!! It’s much better though in ‘Young Frankenstein’, when she gets hurled through the window of her bedroom and lands on the bed.

[@agentjackstone3543]

Bride of Frankenstein is my favorite between the two and Young Frankenstein is the best because it's basically both films in one hahaha

[@Nefarioso]

"Oh, I love my pretty little flowers!"

[@alpyki2588]

Young Frankenstein is immensely enjoyable after watching the first 3 Frankenstein movies. The skit referencing the Son of Frankenstein dart scene is brilliant.

[@johnbrowne3950]

And after that children learned to swim.

[@richardgrier8968]

That's how I learned to swim. My dad took me out to the middle of a lake and tossed me in. It was easy once I cut myself out of the sack.

[@johnbrowne3950]

@@richardgrier8968 Your dad wanted to teach you about the harsh realities of life... or not.

[@superkato17]

lmao

[@richardgrier8968]

@Werewolf O. London, Esq. Yeah

[@indridcold8433]

That really was the hard knox way to learn how to swim. Father, grandfather, or mum rowed out to the middle of the pond and you went overboard, whether you wanted to or not. If you could not swim back to the boat, you would get fished out and then go back in the drink as soon as you gathered your breath. This lesson could be revisited a few times in several days, or just done one time. Either way, the child learned to swim.

[@johnhenke6475]

Boris Karloff gave the most amazing acting.

[@billcrockett695]

You are so right. It's fascinating how his face acting came through beautifully in all that makeup. We'll never have another Karloff.

[@luthermcgee7586]

@@billcrockett695 , Agreed!

[@CHIL2903]

I was "taught" by a nun who could have been his twin sister. 🙁

[@Сайтамен]

Ага.

[@djquinn11]

@@CHIL2903 : I had Sister Lagosi in 3rd grade.

[@blancemoore]

Consider "M" with Peter Lorre as the serial killer.- There a scene with little Elsie bouncing a ball on her way home from school... then just the rolling ball. Sometimes the suggestion is ACTUALLY more powerful. Hitchcock did this everywhere

[@adrian72300]

Yes, but not here, he really looked like a monster when he threw her in the water

[@stujew57]

A nice analogy...

[@beowulf1417]

Big difference between scenes intended to use suggestion versus scenes that are just edited down.

[@adrian72300]

@@beowulf1417 So true, the actor would know how to portray the suggestion, and that can't be captured with a edit

[@donaldfewell8908]

In my opinion,"M" was an amazing movie!

[@goldilocks913]

I always feel such sorrow for how the ‘monster’ is treated but that makes his innocence even more clear 😥

[@dwighta8215]

When you’re a kid, this movie was flat out scary back in the day.

[@brianmcmillan7426]

My favorite Horror film of all time...I'm 65 years of age and just purchased two models of Karloff as the monster to assemble...I'm a sucker for nostalgia and wish I still had all the Universal models I'd glued and painted when I was around 7 or 8.

[@peerpede-p.]

The movie that ever scared me most, was Nosferatu with Max Screck, saw it in 1962, alone with my brother, a truly fearful experience for a 12 year old kid.

[@countalucard4226]

@@peerpede-p. 2000 maniacs was a scary movie to me.

[@cha5]

Richard W Henry Portrait of a Serial Killer is a terrifying movie to me. But I still love the original Boris Karloff Frankenstein.

[@countalucard4226]

@@cha5 yes I did see Henry it wasn’t nearly as scary as 2000 maniacs to me..

[@keithwilson6060]

I thought the monster sat on a see-saw and catapulted the little girl into her bed.

[@Philtration]

And the girl in the Bunny outfit landed right on this kid's bed and he said "Thank you God!"

[@doct0rnic]

That was in young Frankenstein

[@bruceluber5178]

That was in young Frankenstein

[@kevinedwards7206]

He was confused and hurt afterward..he didn't mean to hurt her.. And the Dr. Totally insane

[@illiadmcswain3956]

Superb acting👍👌

[@jeffburnham6611]

Yeah he thought pretty things belonged in the water, so he just tossed her in not knowing she couldn't swim.

[@BradiKal61]

PennyWise approves of the second clip. 'we all float down here!'

[@alliwishis2652]

You to will float😛🤣😌

[@frankensteinlives5451]

If the monster was alive TODAY, he would have recorded it on his phone, instead of leaving to get help.

[@tonray9395]

Today he would have been making millions as an Instagram influencer for scar reducing cream endorsements

[@gabrielpatten6939]

"What up? This ya Boi lil Franky! I just wanna let you guys know that I might not be posting for a bit...had an issue at the lake...I'll keep you posted on my Twitter, and pleaze support me on patreon"

[@garcia207]

He might have done that stunt if he saw it on Tic Toc.

[@gloonnug4797]

You guys think Francis has the finger dexterity to manipulate a phone of TODAY? 🙄 ..ya know he’s got one of them “granny pads” right?

[@inthecouchproductions8103]

Yes, humans are so awful today. They were so much better in 1931, with the lynch mobs and the segregated lunch counters and everything.

[@_1ben]

My mother was a 8 when this came out at her theater in a small town in Pennsylvania up in the coal mining district. She said it scared her every time she walked through the woods. I smile when I see Frankenstein a memory of my mom

[@pressureworks]

Shamokiin ?

[@_1ben]

@Judy De 😁

[@Nacho-Mamma]

He never meant to kill Maria. He's got the mentality of a little kid, and thought he was just playing. He didn't understand his own strength. I was just a little kid when I saw this in 1966. And, he never scared me. I still feel the same way I did then, pity & sadness for him, and the he was beautiful. Now, as an adult, my friends don't understand why I STILL think the original creature is beautiful. There's just something about it. To this day, it is still considered one of the greatest makeup special effects of cinematic history. Ever with the modern materials used, that can never be reproduced unless they digitized and used CGI. But even that would still look fake.

[@Thoralmir]

He's basically like Lennie from Of Mice and Men.

[@x60hz]

This movie never ever scared me. And as far as I'm concerned the only horrifying element of this movie is the way the being (I hate using the term monster or creature) was treated. Karloff played him like a scared child who was brought into this world by a heartless"creature" seeking his own fame and fortune and left to be abandoned. Very sad movie in my opinion 😢

[@gterrymed]

what did your grandparents think of it? My grandmother was terrified by The Monster's entrance she saw it when it was new. Horror speaks to the generation that makes it.

[@darreljohnson3644]

My dad was 14 when this came out.He saw it in the theater and said it scared the hell out of him.This was considered a shocker back in 1931....

[@lordtryforce]

@KTTGHMTJWYCBLAC I don't like horror movies but unfortunately my mother loved them. She would drag me along to watch them at a young age (Theaters/Drive inns). One particular movie scared me so much that I had nightmares for for 3 months from what I heard from other family members. The movie was the 1978 film called The Fury. I was about 3 or 4 at the time. When kids go through something traumatic they block it out in there mind. I completely forgot everything about that movie until I re-watched it in my 30s. I didn't think it was that scary until I saw the ending. It actually got me to jump. There's clips of the ending of the movie on KZbin. Not something a toddler should be watching.

[@Galen-864]

When this movie came out my mother lived on a ranch and several kids' folks took them to see "Frankenstein." They were all terrified out of their minds. One of the teenagers rode his horse into town to see the movie and he was so scared after that he rode his poor horse to death getting back home.

[@theonlyguiltymaninshawshan7909]

@@lordtryforce The Fury is a terrific movie. De Palma sets a mood of creepiness at a heightened level. He also inserts a good bit of humor in there, with Kirk Douglas and Dennis Franz. Amy Irving and Andrew Stevens are well cast, as is John Cassavetes.

[@pintificate]

That's bullshit Darrel. Men in 1931 were not that naive, they'd just experienced _millions_ of young men being shot to pieces all over Europe, hadn't they? .

[@lordtryforce]

@@pintificate what he said is feasible. There were several movies that got heavily censored because of audience reaction during the time. Movies like Metropolis, Freaks, and many others. You ever heard of the Orson Welles War of the Worlds radio broadcast? It happened in the late 1930s. It panicked many people because they thought the country was under attack by aliens.

[@alexhale2696]

Exact reenactment of how my father taught me how to swim.

[@ijustgottasay1281]

My father too ... except he took me out in a boat to the middle of the lake, then tossed me overboard.

[@ThomasCullen-jp4fy]

"It's alive! It's alive!" That's what people said when I was born. I was hideous.

[@patrickturner6878]

Hey, wasn't there are entire horror franchise based on that premise called "It's Alive!"?

[@bcarr1122]

Even if that's true, it's not what's outside that's truly important, eh?

[@davidbranin969]

Viagra slogan.

[@breckrichardson390]

Yes, I saw the first "It's Alive," which had an ending the pretty clearly telegraphed that there would be a sequel. And I seem to recall that they wasted little time getting the sequel out.

[@phildoodler2199]

That's nothing. I was so ugly, my parents regretted not putting a pillow over my face.

[@WorksopGimp]

I remember seeing the original and as a kid and got he didn't know what he was doing he meant no harm, it was sad

[@marvinmurakami8828]

He was confused and didn't know what to do when he ran out of flowers.

[@donaldfewell8908]

Dr. Frankenstein scared me, while the Frankenstein monster intrigued me.

[@greg6500]

Wish I could say censorship was a foolish idea from the PAST.

[@greg6500]

@Chris Oli yeah like Trump trying to silence the CDC when their covid science didnt jive with his mush. Political correctness.

[@AA-BB]

@@greg6500 TDS kicking in

[@greg6500]

@@AA-BB No one associated with Qanon or Trumpism has any business calling anyone else deranged.

[@ilcugginocanadese]

Do not confuse censorship in showbusiness, with self-censorship in showbusiness. If you watch some old harmless sitcoms - a few good examples are Three's Company, The Golden Girls, later Malcolm in the Middle and Friends - you'll see that they had to fight against censorship regularly, today's sitcoms are so watered down that there probably isn't anyone left at the censor office to notice but, and it's a huge but: Twitter's got your back! Can't say anything against mainstream on Twitter or you will get deleted. See Tony DeAngelo or Gina Carano for reference.

[@greg6500]

@@ilcugginocanadese some preemptive self censorship is a function of standards and practices which is mostly an attempt to avoid angry letters amd lawsuits which I would still count as censorship. It's why a WAR cartoon like GI Joe had no actual violence in it. If the self censorship is a function of the company trying to protect its image when one of their stars starts saying horrible shit online I totally understand. I wouldnt want an association like that either and if they agree in their contracts to project a certain public image then I dont see a problem.

[@michaels6496]

The book is much more in keeping with the first cut. It was a main theme of the book, man acting like a god and the consequences of doing so. It's nice to see the revised edition, thank you.

[@CHIL2903]

"... man acting like a god..." That's why he called his creation Adam, Michael.

[@philip6419]

@@CHIL2903 Huh?

[@erichinkle7347]

If I remember right, Karloff himself didn't like the second scene. He thought the Monster should gently lay little Maria in the water.

[@blackcyklops]

I think that wouldn't make much sense. He really didn't know the difference between the flower and the girl so he threw the girl in just like he did the flower; which is what resulted in the girl's death (I assume).

[@billcrockett695]

You are quite right. Karloff didn't want to film the scene. He thought it would be better for him to interact gently with the girl to show the creature's basic innocence. Fun note: The scene had to be shot a second time. The girl playing Maria didn't want to get thrown in the water again. Director James Whale promised her anything she wanted if she would do the scene again. She agreed to do it for a dozen boiled eggs.

[@neorock7491]

@@billcrockett695 Alas, basic innocence can also translate into mindless brutality. Mary Shelley understood that perfectly.

[@billcrockett695]

@@neorock7491 Yes, she did. She was quite brilliant for a 16 year old girl!!!

[@billcrockett695]

@MultiBagram Perhaps that's true. I have been known to get my numbers mixed up. Nevertheless, still very impressive for a young lady. I just know she started the book approximately June 16th, 1816 after she, her husband and two friends decided to write their own horror stories.

[@ScooterFXRS]

Nothing is scarier then people imposing their will, ideology, politics on others. That was one of the main points Shelley was making. For all his grotesqueness the Monster was nothing compared to Dr.Frankenstein, the authorities, or the villagers.

[@ddespair]

I agree, except when the imposing political will is a conservative that enables racist groups, attacking sexual preferences, the right to choose and goes so far as to put families in cages.

[@ExperienceEric]

@@ddespair Your comment is a perfect example of progressive liberals imposing their will on others by accusing conservatives of being racist, sexists, homophones and the most terrible words you can think to label them as. When people can't with with their ideals, they resort to name calling and paint others as the most evil people in society. Its called Marxism and fascism and the entire left, Big tech, and MSM have openly embraced it.

[@gerrydooley951]

@@ExperienceEric It really a case of right and wrong, the conservatives have embraced an alternate universe of facts that don't exist and are wrong. If you can still embrace these ideas after Jan. 6th you are really fucked up

[@bdpickett]

There's something insanely ironic about both this post and all its responses.

[@ExperienceEric]

@@gerrydooley951 You people spent 4 years embracing the Russia hoax and screaming the 2016 election was illegitimate, you are in no position to be talking about "alternative facts" and living in an alternative universe. You also openly embraced a full year of violence, riots, cities burning across the country, attacks on local governments and police and supported it all. You people are liars who are so full of hate you can't even see the utter insanity and hypocrisy of your own words. Conservatives spoke out against ALL violence, both Jan 6th and the year long reign of violence form the left. You insane lunatics never cared about violence until Jan 6t you excused and turned a blind eye to violence form the left all year long. THAT is living in an alternate reality and universe.

[@jnichols3]

I think "Young Frankenstein" replace the second scene with a child inviting the monster to get on the opposite end of a teeter totter. The monster plops down on the other end catapulting the child through the air, through the window of his own house, and landing in his bed.

[@christhornton1785]

"Her" house and "her" bed. It was a little girl.

[@MarcillaSmith]

@@christhornton1785 Did you just assume their gender?

[@christhornton1785]

@@MarcillaSmith The people in the movie described her as a little girl. Please don't start this "non-specified gender" crap.

[@MarcillaSmith]

@@christhornton1785 Are you on Reddit by any chance?

[@kd6836]

The insanity of modern liberalism worms its way into even a discussion about an almost century old movie and a Mel Brooks comedy classic from 1974. Not a single person on either movie set would understand anything other than male and female and that’s it. They and the hundred generations before them would be astounded at the level of current idiocy. Hells bells.

[@ASimoneau]

A five year-old girl drowned in about seven inches of water, less than eighteen inches from land. I'd have joined the village mob hunting down her negligent parents.

[@elgritton]

she hit her head landing,,, in a censored version, censorception.

[@smirkingdevil]

Unfortunately, some children drown in less water ON land. So...yeah...

[@byronlemay2166]

Funny thing about that...when I was 20 years old I had a girlfriend (who could swim just fine) lose her footing at the front of a medium sized wave and she nearly drowned in just 2 feet of water...she was turning around like in a washing machine and didn't know which way was up...I watched her for about 5 seconds figuring she'd simply stand up, but she didn't. I jumped in there and pulled her out and she vomited seawater. Ruined her day, to say the least.

[@darioinfini]

To be honest the monster reaching for her and cutting out is far more sinister. You don't know what happened leaving it to your mind to guess. Throwing her into the water right next to the bank is relatively harmless compared to what he could have done. Also, if Hollywood felt that audiences couldn't handle "now I know what it feels like to be God", I wonder how those audiences would have reacted to Cardi B's Grammy performance LOL

[@hcrffi]

Nowadays, The phrase "Will you play with me?" made by the little girl will be censored. But those two censored in the 30's wont. See the difference of the mentality in the people of different generations?

[@guskennedy170]

Meh. Better than the religious and racist slime back then. Truly awful people. Glad we've progressed!

[@robbyrdog]

@@guskennedy170 we’ve gone backwards in society and if you haven’t noticed racial tensions are higher then they’ve ever been. We need to bring God back.

[@JoshMaxPower]

They should have left the first edit in, it would have made Henry's downfall that much more profound. As for the second edit, everyone thought the Monster had held little Eva under the water to drown her, when he had just thrown her in thinking her fingers were flowers. The restored edit was much tamer than what we thought in the 70s when this was shown in TV. Different country, man...different times. Today the Monster would be inked head to toe and he'd find a home in a Goth crowd.

[@boredlawyer3382]

Yes, the first edit was stupid. The whole point of the story is that when man tries to reach beyond his abilities and play God, disaster ensues. That is a very traditional, and very religious, message.

[@burpostockings]

Yeah, I also thought he drowned her in a more horrific way. In a way, I kinda like it that way. Him throwing her in 2 ft of water just seems funny lol

[@actionsub]

@@burpostockings John Wayne did that to some kid in "Hondo" to make him learn to swim. When his mom came out to protest, and admitted she didn't know how to swim either, it took a second before she realized he'd chuck her in the water too!

[@jhmcd2]

Well, to their credit, here we are nearly a hundred years latter, and movies still have a hard time wanting to show the little girl character knocked off on screen. So there is that.

[@paulliddle9975]

Walking dead watch that

[@panathatube]

Doctor Sleep has a similar scene. They must have watched this.

[@oscarsalesgirl296]

go to liveleak if you want to see that garbage

[@mewjr1]

Pet Sematary

[@revklindsey]

@@paulliddle9975 I could have gone all day without that reminder. Carol offing those girls is what eventually ended the show for me.

[@robhansen6553]

its her own fault for not being able to swim, and its only 2 feet of water

[@navymusician822]

It's in the script, she followed instructions lol

[@thechef8677]

Should had just stood up. 🤣

[@stevenfrasier5718]

Dad leaves his little girl like that unsupervised, she's still a baby. So tragic.

[@sheiladavis6523]

@@navymusician822 Good one 😊and with truth 👏1-20-21

[@justinsane11]

Can’t help but feel bad for the creation. He didn’t ask to be created and the whole time he’s just trying to figure out what life is. It’s kind of a tragedy he’s an iconic Halloween metaphor when really his creator is the nut job.

[@mike196212]

True enough.

[@bethbowman6635]

@@mike196212 It is true for all of us!

[@jasonlee6227]

In the later Hammer films with Peter Cushing, the real monster was none other than Dr. Frankenstein himself. Your stereotypical mad scientist who would actually murder people (and in one movie blackmail them into helping him) in order to advance his experiments. A psychopath with no moral boundaries, only difference though is he could justifiy his crimes in the name of science.

[@nhooper6651]

See what happens when you censor things. You don’t get the full story. Let the person come to their own conclusion based on all of the information. The whole truth. Not what some people just want you to see. Thanks for the clip. Very interesting!

[@jimfranco9920]

Frankenstein: "the label on the receipt clearly says that the child floats. I want my money back"

[@donaldfewell8908]

lool

[@sarahpiaggio2693]

I suppose they didn't like the blasphemy of him saying he felt like God, but he was just explaining to the viewer why what he'd done was wrong. The blasphemy was making the amoral being in the first place and the film makes much more sense with his explanation uncensored. But censors were never known to be too bright.

[@jeffmejia111]

The censored line that has been restored was the basis of the book that Mary Shelly Wolfstonecraft wrote--Frankenstein. Does man (science) have the right to infringe upon what only God should do? It was a debate in Shelly's era as it is today. When does science go too far? Can and should man 'be' God? I agree with you--censors were never known to be too bright--they should've read the book to know that besides being a 'monster' movie Frankenstein was about the moral or immoral question poised above.

[@snakes3425]

The line captures what made Frankenstein's downfall inevitable: his hubris

[@Jeff98177]

In real life, Marilyn Harris, who played Maria, was never afraid of Boris Karloff even when she first saw him in full costume. And she was a very good swimmer. When she learned that she would have to be thrown in the lake yet again, she asked for her favorite snack in return: a dozen hard-boiled eggs. She was given two dozen.

[@AdmiralQuality]

Very anti-censorship but I actually think the drowning is even better when it's just implied.

[@carltonpoindexter2034]

I wish that they would restore the censored scenes in the movie: THE BIRDS. There was graphic eye pecking scene which Tippi Hedron witnesses while in the phone booth causing her to faint, a child being carried off by the gulls and pecked to death out of site of the camera, and the never seen footage at the end where they end up on a fog shrouded Golden Gate bridge and when the fog clears, all the cars and busses and trucks have shattered windshields and all the occupants have been pecked to death. There are a few surviving stills of that scene but all footage was lost or destroyed. The latter ending was to give a note of hope.

[@AtlantaTerry]

"sight"

[@baldevis]

A lot of peckers in that film.

[@briandillon7587]

Political Correctness is a thing invented by the GOP to brainwash people.

[@JohnJ469]

@@briandillon7587 Learn some history.

[@jackolantern6692]

Then there was the famous scene that was cut where the people couldn't see out their windshields because of all the birdshit, and drove OFF the Golden Gate bridge.

[@davidbspamboy]

crazy. who in the heck would keep this footage for so long? So many old films started to rot away. Thanks to the folks who hung onto this stuff. It is appreciated!!

[@bogtrotter10]

I remember watching this with my Pop when I was a little kid

[@jimhardy743]

Its sickening to think that the PC censors of today are doing the same thing to many of the classic movies like Gone With the Wind, Birth of a Nation...even The Shining.

[@tonybarton007]

He doesn't throw the girl in because he believes she'll float. He throws her in because she is throwing flowers into the water, flowers to him are beautiful, he sees the girl as beautiful hence he throws her into the water, like the flowers.

[@marvinmurakami8828]

Perhaps but you could see the confusion on his face when he didn't know what to do when he ran out of flowers.

[@beowulf1417]

I always believed it to be a case of both. He thinks the girl is beautiful like the flowers and thus will also float like them.

[@mikeoyler2983]

Although it is claimed that they were not known until the 1980s, it seems like Mel Brooks saw these scenes and mocked them. The dialogue and the actions in Young Frankenstein really seem to resemble these two cut scenes.

[@blujay2084]

Gene Wilder's "It's alive!" line is the most over the top performance ever IMO.

[@s4ss1n]

it would have been known, but not advertised. the computer revolution has also helped it gain spread and discovery. mel brooks could well have had knowledge and access to this info as he was always close to this kind of stuff. the guy is one serious film buff lol

[@shooter7734]

It may have been Gene Wilder who saw these scenes. This movie was his idea to begin with not Mel Brooks's Wilder recruited Brooks to direct and co-write on the agreement that Wilder would star in Brooks's movie he was working on ......Blazing Saddles.

[@JamJells]

Took film class in the 70s. This among others like Birth of a Nation, and Intolerance were shown. My best all time Teacher inspired me for life. Thank You Mr. Tuck! Thank you for sharing these rare clips.

[@jasonsmith1194]

bro you j saved my life i have to write an essay on the two scenes and ive never seen the movie

[@quincycampbell9828]

Please do yourself a favor and watch the entire film when you get the chance. It's a short film by today's standards.

[@johnnyalucard9704]

Why do they assign things like that to the wrong people? I could write that article and not even consult a book

[@flipflopsguy8868]

Unplug and open your mind !

[@johnnyalucard9704]

@@flipflopsguy8868 to whom do you address this directive?

[@cozmicmojo2181]

I dunno, Him reaching for the girl and her ending up dead later is more insidious then him throwing her in shallow water and visibly distraught over it.

[@tomdavis7227]

No kidding, Columbo.

[@larryagrapides9790]

I went to high school with a guy that looked exactly like this: Eddie Womseldorf.

[@keithwilson6060]

Was he on the football team?

[@marvinmurakami8828]

Complete with bolts on the side of his neck?

[@david9783]

Heck just his NAME is scary!

[@davidsmith5523]

These films were frequently shown when I was a kid. I recall the second scene in its shortened version. It upset me for the creature and the little girl. Its incredible that I recall it, I was about ten years old. I always wondered if she survived. In this version it seems clearer that she did not. If memory serves, its clarified later in the film by her distraught father. Powerfully affecting stuff.

[@raygrange7312]

The story of Frankenstein was a sad one.

[@billcrockett695]

So true. The book is even more tragic.

[@donaldfewell8908]

@@billcrockett695 i enjoyed the book.

[@dflf]

Interesting that Karloff actually tosses the girl into the water. They didn’t use a dummy.

[@MicheallikeMJ]

@@twzygmunt1111 Prick.

[@tomdavis7227]

dflf You're the dummy.

[@MicheallikeMJ]

@@twzygmunt1111 Dick.

[@davedogge2280]

Frankenstein was just misunderstood. .. .. he was just trying to open a diving school.

[@donaldfewell8908]

lol

[@rupertmiller9690]

Being picked up against my will and thrown into the water was my grandfather's way of teaching me how to swim. "Start paddling or drown, boy!!", he shouted gleefully from the dock. Guy was a bit off, but I did learn to swim that day.

[@jillwinterberg6570]

My grandfather did the same thing. Once I wriggled out of the leg weights I was fine.

[@Anthony-hu3rj]

@@jillwinterberg6570 Cement leg weights are the worst.

[@dragonsword7370]

if only you knew how to swim and hold your breath before. Fake the surface slapping then sink for awhile. It's worth the paddlin' for the look of utter terror and "Oh Shite this really WAS a bad idea."

[@clam4597]

How many of you siblings were lost by this method?

[@adamscott2580]

@@clam4597 not enough obviously.

[@martybragg7897]

Which leads to the question of who was truly the “Monster”....... Dr Victor Frankenstein or the creature he created?

[@GregConquest]

You're turning the traditional "Frankenstein was actually the doctor" on its head, you monster ;-) Actually, maybe we, the audience, are the monster.

[@MarcillaSmith]

@@GregConquest By way of metaphor, I think the implication is that God is the monster, and we his grotesque creatures. EDIT: Let me extend that... "Learn from the way the wild flowers grow. They do not work or spin... But seek first the kingdom [of God] and his righteousness, and all these things will be given you besides." Matthew 6:28b, 33 (NABRE) "His" "son" encounters the "virgin Maria," "baptizes" her, and is "put to death" by the crowd, despite the fact that he came to give hope of "life after death" through his "resurrection." It's a bit of a secularist/arianist reading of the Gospel, as the "true" Christ is begotten, not created, but fascinating, nonetheless, to consider

[@ge2623]

Your question is the actual answer to what's been going on since 2016.

[@catfeline1530]

The original book by Mary Shelley, the doctor is the true monster. He treated his creation like crap, the monster simply retaliated.

[@crissrudd4554]

There’s another censored variation of the ‘God’ line. It shows the whole sequence but half the line is dubbed out by thunder. Basically it’s like ‘Now I know what it (feels like to be God)’ except where it’s in parentheses you see Henry’s mouth moving but hear thunder. Some VHS editions had this version.

[@artificialintelligence8328]

Wow that's sort of creative, a better way to censor than just cutting it out.

[@crissrudd4554]

It’s at the 0:40 mark of this video. ;) vimeo.com/165819311

[@jondeare]

Poor Frankenstein.

[@quincycampbell9828]

As a Match Game fan you should have said "Now I know what it (BLANK)".

[@troygaspard6732]

It is the scene following that is so horrific, and beautiful, with the father carrying the limp body of his drowned daughter down the main village street. James Whale was a one of the greatest.

[@WaterShowsProd]

I agree, that is an excellently crafted scene as the town is celebrating a wedding, a contrasting backdrop to the father carrying the body of his daughter, and as he passes the mood of the people changes from one extreme to another. James Whale was an excellent director.

[@meccorr]

That scène is really scary and heart breaking

[@tkell31]

I love how people apply today's standards to the 30s. God still played a huge roll in many people's lives at that point so the first is completely understandable, and violence against children wasnt going to be shown on the big screen. So yeah, we've lowered our standards to the point almost anything goes so these seem harmless enough, but once upon a time people had class. You can google it.

[@unclenogbad1509]

Never seen these, so glad you posted them. Makes so much more sense now - not knowing why the girl drowned always troubled me. An act of innocence, not anger - the monster understands neither the consequence nor the danger of its own actions.

[@-elchoya9832]

they got to learn how to swim sometime

[@dougs7367]

They all float down here

[@ShiftingDrifter]

"He has a rotten brain!" "...ixnay on the ottonray"

[@LisaCupcake]

I definitely remember seeing the scene where he threw her in the water. I was pretty young; it was probably the mid-70's. I was pretty sad for him because I thought Frankenstein threw her in because she was pretty like a flower and just wanted to see her float.

[@engrownhare2427]

Yeah, that scene was always in the movie when I watched it.

[@bezoticallyyours83]

They all float down here Georgie 🎈 🌸

[@snakes3425]

Intellegence is knowing Frankenstein isn't the monster Wisdom is knowing Frankenstein is the monster

[@Christbepraised]

During production the little girl asked Karloff if she could sit by him in the limousine. He said, darling, would you? So, every day they sat by each other. :)

[@ahobimo732]

The scene by the water is actually really dark, imo. I'm one of those sensitive types I guess, so it got to me a bit. Your comment made me feel much better. (Silly, I know, but emotions don't make sense.) So thank you for sharing that.

[@Christbepraised]

@@ahobimo732 Thanks Mark. Yes, Boris hated that scene and did not want it in the movie. But, it does make us feel better knowing they were very close during shooting :)

[@JordanVanRyn]

It's actually even more tragic because in the book, the Monster actually does save the little girl who almost drowned but the girl's father chases him away. It really hurts to watch this scene because you could tell the monster didn't really mean to hurt the girl and he had this childlike innocence who was unaware of his actions. He's a little like Lenny from "Of Mice and Men" in a way. Boris Karloff really gave the monster pathos to his performance.

[@emiliochervoni9264]

I was born in 57 when I was a kid them scenes were not deleted.

[@LordsofMedia]

Exactly. Seems like they were deleted from some personal collections.

[@andrewvelonis5940]

I was born in '56 and I don't remember whether or not the first scene was deleted, but the second was. (But I only saw it on TV) It seemed obvious to me that the second scene had been cut and also very obvious that the monster had thrown the girl into the water and was surprised, confused and upset when she didn't float. It was a scene which generated sympathy for the monster: who among us has not made a mistake which caused painful, unintended consequences for which we feel remorse?

[@djolley61]

Mary Shelly's book is much darker. Frankenstein's monster is pure evil, not some misunderstood childlike creature. The moment the monster came alive Frankenstein realized he'd created something horrible.

[@pintificate]

djolley: You could hardly be more wrong. I know you haven't read the book. In the book he was actually trying to _save_ the girl. Please read the book. .

[@djolley61]

@@pintificate I read the book quite recently actually. Movies made from the story are completely different, but always try to show the monster in a sympathetic light. The monster kills Frankenstein's younger brother and even his wife on their wedding night just to get to him.

[@edbouhl3100]

I’d never heard of these scenes before, thx.

[@erichvonmolder9310]

The first thing that came to mind, was the famous song back in the early 70's by Edgar Winters, "Frankenstein."

[@tehmtbz]

That song has one of the most kick ass guitar riffs ever. The whole track jams. And the sound engineering was really sophisticated. Top notch.

[@ek9509]

It looks like that scene with Maria really goes to show that the Monster isn’t completely villainous. He actually has a soft side. And I love it. Unfortunately, his curiosity did kill the cat. Or, in this case, himself. The farmer finds his daughter’s body, says that she was murdered, a mob is formed, and then the ending scene with the windmill rolls.

[@Charlesputnam-bn9zy]

I can't understand the deletion of the 2nd scene, which shows the innocent creature having more human feelings than its conjurer.

[@cliffcox7643]

You didn't show an adult killing a little girl at that time.

[@Charlesputnam-bn9zy]

@@cliffcox7643 True. The scene in the so lovable 1987''Monster Squad" when Frankenstein projected his shadow on the grass beside young Phoebe (the cute Ashley Bank) made me tremble, and forget that it's a comedy.

[@davidjacob5828]

@@cliffcox7643 even now, an adult killing a little girl is not shown.

[@sonrouge]

This was long, loooooong before it became acceptable to show children dying on camera.

[@ADAPTATION7]

@@sonrouge Yes. Snowflakes existed even back then. But I'm sure the little girl managed to float (hopefully).

[@poporoto2012]

The monster was evil, , stupid and confused with a small amount of inocence. I beleived he was going to be Herman Munster

[@hatorihanso1238]

He looks like a teacher a had in college, he was a jolly fellow, just a bit creepy when he tried to strangle us.

[@DaveTex2375]

Funny how that works.

[@StuUngar]

“It wasn’t supposed to be this way! It was supposed to be a thing of beauty! Not this abomination!……….. I was wrong to play God. Life is precious. Not to be toyed with. Now take out that brain and flush it down the toilet!”