Fredrik Thordendal's Special Defects - Sol Niger Within (Ermz Remaster)

[@MikeWJones1497]

00:00 "The Beginning of the End of Extraction (Evolutional Slow Down)" 01:36 "The Executive Furies of the Robot Lord of Death" 03:04 "Descent to the Netherworld" 03:33 "...Och Stjärnans Namn Var Malört" 05:27 "Dante's Wild Inferno" 06:26 "I, Galactus" 07:54 "Skeletonization" 08:08 "Sickness and Demoniacal Dreaming" 09:14 "UFOria" 09:51 "Z1- Reticuli" 12:44 "Transmigration of Souls" 14:12 "In Reality All Is Void" 14:41 "Krapp's Last Tape" 15:56 "Through Fear We Are Unconscious" 16:55 "Death at Both Ends" 17:54 "Bouncing in a Bottomless Pit" 19:07 "The Sun Door" 20:39 "Vitamin K Experience (A Homage to The Scientist/John Lilly)" 22:13 "Sensorium Dei" 25:41 "Z2- Reticuli" 28:37 "De Profundis" 29:06 "Existence Out of Joint" 30:19 "On a Crater's Verge" 31:33 "Solarization" 33:22 "The End of the Beginning of Contraction (Involutional Speed Up/Preparation for the Big Crunch)" 34:13 "Tathagata" 37:15 "Missing Time" 48:31 "Ooo Baby Baby" Copy Paste Powa

[@coloripple]

I'm pretty sure "Skeletonization" is my favorite song of less than 15 seconds ever! xD

[@burntcrispycorpse]

Sounds like morbid angel guitar solos meshugah and a little taste of doom metal

[@apartment213]

can we have the featuring artists names aswell. and which band they are from.

[@MRSludgedude]

Well the music cool..vocals ehhj. Got to respect it that's all in can say. Not bad but nothing addictive.

[@ImKevinFTW]

made man Morgan Ågren on drums From his own fusion project to his own electro project, he did also guest drums for the las Devin Townsend album(along with Samus66 and Anup Sastry) Just to name a few

[@XiyuYang]

This album somehow sounds like it’s released in 2050.

[@opendagates8642]

Yes 💯 %

[@silvercloud1641]

3130

[@gorgosaurusgorgora1381]

Or .. for 2050

[@oRnch199]

It did.

[@jayeshjadhavdrums]

Absolutely

[@aphexlane]

I bought this at a Best Buy when i was like 14. I had no idea who he was or anything. I just thought the cover looked cool. I had no idea what i was in for..

[@metadata5638]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@Heliosphan33]

Best random CD purchase ever

[@deezpro4412]

I got Destroy Erase Improve album from local record store for the same reason. First introduction to Meshuggah at 17. Favorite band ever since. 🤘🤘

[@XxMETALJAREDxX]

Dude… talk about a wild purchase. That’s an awesome story.

[@YsAbTones]

same story, same age for me, but with Divine wings of tragedy - Symphony X ;)

[@templeecho1206]

This has what I call "The Aphex Twin Effect." It's from the early 90's and yet still somehow sounds like it's from 2023

[@pentexsucks43]

"early 90's" Description: "Late 90's" Hmmm

[@deliriumcb5959]

@@pentexsucks43 He definitely had this banging around inside his head for most of the early and mid 90's.

[@SW3Raceman2890]

this is timeless

[@danielreyna7897]

Is the selected ambient works 85-92 in metal

[@user-wl6ew5eq1e]

interesante

[@bornthebjorn1490]

When one becomes too swedish to remain terrestrial

[@sexhaver420]

Real Annunaki hours

[@matthewhiggins604]

How true...

[@samcarlen6097]

@@sexhaver420 *The Greys have entered the chat* *Blue Avians have entered the chat*

[@jesusa_ikher]

i cannot stress enough how this comment made me spat water because of laughter

[@NicolaiAwesome]

It’s difficult not to get hyperbolic about this music - it’s that good. Fredrik hitting one chord eg 3:33 in «Och stjärnas namn..», palm muting it and then slowly opening up the chord has more power and depth to it than a lot of other music I’ve ever listened to. Majestic.

[@OdinPerez]

Thordendal really managed to evolve the Holdsworth sound into outer fucking space. One of the greatest musical intellects of our time.

[@Noone-ew2wk]

I wouldn't say thordendal evolved holdsworths sound, thordendal is good but was never on holdsworths level

[@enijize1234]

@@Noone-ew2wk He is. He may not have the harmonic library of Holdsworth but Holdsworth doesnt have the rhythmic library of Thordendahl. You can argue semantics, specifics and technicalities that say otherwise, but at the end of the day they are both true Super-Novas orbiting the same black hole.

[@davidbond8139]

@@enijize1234 love this description!

[@arsonravengarcia8370]

@@enijize1234 Jeez man you nailed it on that one..both are bat shit crazy on their own respective crafts.

[@truslyd]

I jock the fuck outta the galactus solo..the tone, the phrasing, it's just beautiful

[@Heliosphan33]

Z2 Reticuli is like a jazz ensemble straight from inter-dimensional hell. Never heard anything like that, but that also goes for the entire record. I’m still absorbing this album and it’s been over 2 years since I’ve been listening to it.

[@andrewbennett7610]

Man, this has legit become one of my favourite albums ever, after also first hearing in about 2 years ago. I’m hooked and can’t stop listening to it lately and I don’t even know how to purchase/ access it other than KZbin (shrugs)

[@timh4595]

Yes never gets old. I picked this CD up back in 1999. Monumental milestone for the signature Meshuggah mathematical ingenuity in song structure and riff technique - after this was released they changed their approach to how they structure songs which you can hear on Chaosphere (1998) all the way until their latest - which in turn has had an incredible influence on 99% of metal you hear today. So in short, THANK YOU Frederik Thordendal, your musical contributions have a long lasting impact likely for many more years to come. As Devin Townsend says in his song Planet of the Apes "we all ripoff MESHUGGAH!". 🤘

[@Petar_Nikolov]

Playing of Morgan Agren in this album must be essential for EVERY drummer on this world!!!

[@jackmakackov7077]

Except no one else can pull this stuff off but him. Absolutely incredible

[@michaeljohnston490]

I feel like the drumming on this album has caused people to quit drumming

[@Rxbandit421]

Right! They did have him Fredrik and mattias ia eklundh on some Swedish tv channel sponsored by Vic Firth. Check it out if you haven’t seen it. It was just a medley of this album but still awesome even tho I don’t play drums haha.

[@Rxbandit421]

Not sure much info about the special they did but it’s on KZbin and it’s super sick from all parties.

[@MilkoOfficialChannel]

Ringo is essential, this is Doctor level.

[@michaeljohnston490]

Just tripped on a borderline heroic dose of shrooms, and I can say with 100% certainty this is one of the greatest pieces of music ever made

[@frankschrodinger1424]

Brave of you to listen to this on shrooms...

[@michaeljohnston490]

Frank Schrodinger I would argue it’s the proper way to listen to this album. It has a story to tell you

[@frankschrodinger1424]

@@michaeljohnston490 Yeah and it's not a pleasant story - i'd end up throwing myself out the window

[@dexterj5615]

i would argue that every piece of music sounds this epic on shrooms. Just ask a grateful dead fan. To clarify, my stash is heady as fuck, I pick azurescens like they're chanterelles.

[@sakellarioudimitris7439]

@@michaeljohnston490 What did you see?

[@oRnch199]

My all time favorite album. So many emotions. Then of course, naturally flew into Meshuggah in 2001. The immense creativity and passion that spews from these Swedes is immesurable. No joke, I have this album as my funeral track.

[@02SplinterCell02]

This and Catch 33 are objectively the greatest albums ever made

[@arsonravengarcia8370]

I cannot agree with you more..as a long time Meshuggah fan,this is just fuckin boinkers man.Beyond crazy.

[@SW3Raceman2890]

you forgot the third one: "the dark side of the moon"

[@mattvdh]

ok simmer down lol

[@Noone-ew2wk]

Check out rivers of nihil's "monarchy" not the same style but check it out you might like it, "suntold" is sick af, idk why I'm recommending it I just love meshuggah been listening to them for years and rarely find good metal since finding them

[@gabberpietor]

@@SW3Raceman2890 worst album ever

[@t3hgir]

Albums like this make me truly appreciate this era I'm living in.

[@Yojimbo711]

+t3hgir My feelings as well.

[@unscathedpotato]

Well said

[@rikardschumacher178]

What the 1990's?

[@__Henry__]

Admirable art does! in whatever medium

[@seppesai]

You are aware brother

[@michaelseandemalignonii]

I'll say it again... Fredrik has one of the coolest guitar styles even this early in his career.

[@julianpalmasobarzo3420]

Pasaran 500 años, pasará un milenio, la tierra se extinguirá y este álbum seguirá escuchándose adelantado a su tiempo, o mejor dicho; fuera del tiempo, atemporal, mas allá de toda percepción humana. Definir a Thordendal es limitarlo, inefable. Agradezco haber nacido en este pequeño respiro del tiempo y coincidir con este viajero del espacio... Eterna gratitud.

[@TurkeyGuy9790]

I truly love the fact that almost every comment is people giving appreciation for this album. No elitists or assholes. Just pure love for this masterpiece!

[@HINRG14]

8/10, not enough Freebird

[@rorybass7915]

This record is fucking genius that’s why

[@sexhaver420]

I'm an elitist and an asshole.

[@vonbraunprimarch]

this record is shit, how about that huh

[@7stringwings7]

It's one of the greatest open secrets in music. For us, by us type of community. I was introduced to this piece in 2006. Limewire was a huge factor in my discovery of some of the best shit ive ever heard. But back then i was like the only person who knew this existed and i showed it to EVERYONE. I was obsessed. Till this day I still have people thank me for showing them this, as they would have never discovered it otherwise. It's a rare and strange feeling. As is this masterpiece 🤘

[@youtube-person0098]

I need more unexpected saxophone solos in my life.

[@7thparabola]

I recommend Careless Whisper by GM

[@kyleledermann2473]

Nab that chap live 1991 - t square

[@JayTyrus]

Nik Turner of Hawkwind

[@calebmalinowski7183]

Where Owls Know My Name - Rivers of Nihil

[@coomlord5327]

Periphery - Wildfire

[@tedeisner822]

It may sound odd, but this album has a powerful hypnotic effect that helps me sleep..especially when having too many thoughts to fall asleep when tired

[@sooryapraveen1780]

augustus rayne same here! It's perfectly normal.

[@albinullanger7862]

Me too. I wonder what Fredrik thinks about that?

[@ELCAFELO]

been there!

[@garrettjohnsen]

Yeah, this kind of music has always helped me sleep.

[@george9822]

Its the droning polyrhythms. Puts me to sleep like a metranome

[@dimitriospapapavlou9539]

Damnit guys...this is the evolution of metal. I feel sorry for people who cannot aknowledge the passion and energy these dudes put into this. Friends would start laughing when i made them listen to this and they never got it. Especially in my country, Greece, people would be thinking monolithically in the sense that if you enjoy this kind of music you can only be a metalhead. But one can enjoy classical and pop music and still get goosebumps when listening to Meschuggah. So much emotion...

[@PanasonicTooth]

+Dimitrios Papapavlou Friends are dumb :)

[@jenshalsberghe]

+Dimitrios Papapavlou it's because people who never listen to the heavier stuff out there would find this crap. You cannot blame them though. I also grew slowly into metal and it's now my most preferred genre. But if you had me listen to this 10 years ago I only would have heard screaming and noise, no melody, nothing. Of course it's different for everyone but sometimes I instantly like a band I listen to and sometimes it takes a bit of time. It is true though that people start finding it weird that you can like other music besides metal and they get surprised lol. heck, I even like some justin bieber songs these days. overly commercial, underground. If I like it, I listen to it!

[@martinkorn2668]

+Jens Halsberghe yes a agree

[@martinkorn2668]

exeis dikio

[@stayrosgre]

Meshuggah is amazing. μην τους ακους :P

[@KLANC8]

Back when I was in college (around 2003) I had this on CD and it got stuck in my cars CD player, best equipment malfunction ever, I got to listen this record daily for a long time !!

[@djentmaster33]

I love how you can hear the guy gasping for air on the sax between rests on the 27:00 mark. So much emotion and brutality put into it.

[@nihility00]

I like it when he gasps at 38:39 when he has tissue and fluid samples taken.

[@teepeeth]

@@nihility00 Goddamn i laughed out loud ✌️

[@harpernicholson1]

i never noticed this before, it gives me even more goosebumps now

[@djentmaster33]

@@harpernicholson1 more to add to the list of why this is a masterpiece.

[@MusicAsMedicine88]

Descent to the Netherworld... perfection. Those cymbals just wow.

[@paidomaicon]

The china really gives a more concrete, headbanging vibe

[@ShreddedASMR]

Even as a life long guitar player and Thorendal stan, I'm still fucking stunned by the drumming on this album. These are some of the best drum performances I've ever heard recorded.

[@prince13896]

Everyone I play this for sits silently, both mesmerised and horrified, until it's done. It's pretty much the scariest album of all time.

[@colins7771]

you should listen to any album by Child Abuse... that is scary

[@IMHOLUKE]

Its perfect because no metal album has succeeded in just being disturbing the way a horror movie or HP Lovecraft book is, despite the long association of metal with horror and other related imagery. Im always surprised that no other band or artist has tried to follow in the path of this sound

[@nackskott12]

Maybe I'm just jaded, but after hearing artists like Gnaw Their Tongues, Plebeian Grandstand and Axis of Perdition, can't say I find this album scary. It's trippy as fuck though. Very weird and eclectic, amazing stuff.

[@tomdongerson1474]

Scary? I think it’s beautiful.

[@schpleeb]

Try Scott Walker’s The Drift

[@MinnesotanMysticism]

To those who don’t know; sol niger is the black sun is an archetype I think jungian in origin but not in symbology and mythology. There is a really interesing book called “black sun: the alchemy and art of darkness” it’s fascinating, changes my life. I’ve loved meshuggah a long time and just recently read that book and found this afterwards. Meshuggah and Fredrick are deeper artist than they even appear.

[@robwolfe6120]

I just brought my old CD player out of the basement and set it up. Put this CD in for the first time in about 20 years and it still slaps. These polymetric grooves were everything to me when I was 17 and 18. Chaosphere was the most influential album of all time for me, and this record was always like a dessert / 2nd helping when I wanted more of those insane grooves. A very special era in metal.

[@Consural]

This album never ages. This album will never age.

[@cyclopsvideo1]

Brilliant.This is where fredrik goes into outer space.

[@GornoBiggs]

Yikes! You think that's funny or somethin?

[@mattharris9015]

@@GornoBiggs ye

[@Cestariarts]

Speaking of outer space, Baby Yoda loves it kzbin.info/www/bejne/oILNhnyvebuUhbM

[@pedromrls6]

This would be some Lovecraft shit

[@pyramidhead3109]

@@Cestariarts gay

[@gabegrohl9437]

Morgan Agren's drumming in Sensorium Dei is phenomenal. HOW DO YOU STAY ON POINT THROUGHOUT ALL OF THAT RANDOMNESS. The extra high hats enhance the whole experience so much.

[@johannrajan6357]

Guitar Solos - 0:36 The Beginning of the End of Extraction(Evolutional Slow Down) - 2:35 The Executive Furies of the Robot Lord of Death - 5:28 Dante's Wild Inferno - 6:57 I, Galactus - 9:55 Z1- Reticuli - 13:17 Transmigration of Souls - 18:00 Bouncing in a Bottomless Pit - 24:08 Sensorium Dei - 30:28 On a Crater's Verge - 38:57 Missing Time - 49:35 Ooo Baby Baby Saxophone Solo - 25:53 Z2- Reticuli Bass Solo - 42:10 Missing Time Synth Solos - 43:05 Missing Time - 45:30 Missing Time

[@krewm.2128]

Underrated comment 🙏

[@SW3Raceman2890]

my favorite guitar solo of all i've ever heard... and i have listened very very much different ones... - is from "I, galactus". every single note and the way them played, the guitar tone, and of course, rhythmical decisions - are meaningful

[@truslyd]

I galactus solo has more feeling and is as jazzy as anything I've heard...miles Davis would dig this...

[@diegoarana5862]

Thordendal is a genius. This is the most innovative thing in metal that ive ever heard and it's been like 20 since this was released.

[@cthulpaspawn]

Morgan Agren's drumming is INSANE in this album. Dude can make his drums sound like they're falling down a stairwell and then throw the meanest groove. Ugh.... I fuggin love this album

[@oRnch199]

Honestly my favorite album of all time. I've shown it to friends, like most fans of the album have, it just takes time to sink in how genius and crazy this album really is.

[@oRnch199]

It really is actually brutally beautiful.

[@Galactu5]

Same here. My favorite of all time. It NEVER gets old. Listened to this album more than probably all other albums I've heard combined. Went about 5 years playing this on average every day. Just got caught listening again right now and can't stop, lol! So true about it taking time to soak in, but once it does, it becomes a part of you. I really can't say the same about just about any other music I've heard in any genre. This is a masterpiece without any reservation. It is unlikely that Fredrik could surpass this which might explain the long delay for a part II.

[@luciano9755]

They don't understand, Ogre Dubs . They don't understand.

[@justinm50]

people also never seem to remark on the genius level of lyrical content in this masterpiece

[@justinm50]

www.darklyrics.com/lyrics/fredrikthordendalsspecialdefects/solnigerwithinversion333.html

[@jonasiordanidis7612]

This cosmic cow with the glowing eyes is staring right at me as fredrik is ascending into infinity I swear

[@DIRTKNAPFX]

I bought this CD at Music Express in Kalamazoo in 1998. I had been into Meshuggah for a few years by then so I figured, it was going to be quite similar. Boy, was I wrong. This album is an hour of atmosphere and texture, 25 years ahead of its time.

[@jadedmastermind]

I first heard this in 1999 and was completely blown away. It was like falling asleep in 1849, waking up 150 years later and being blown away by how revolutionary and advanced everything was compared to the world I’d known up to that point.

[@Jukestar]

The beginning is just the perfect way to describe to others how I felt at the worst of my mental health.

[@Heliosphan33]

Hope you’re feeling better

[@Jukestar]

@@Heliosphan33 Certainly better than that time. I am not perfect, but definitely better than I was in the past. Thank you for the good wishes. It's very kind.

[@positivebenzowithdrawal5578]

I’m trying to get my metal head 16 year old drummer son to take a jazz intensive this summer. Gonna play him this album as a reminder (he’s heard it before) of WHY he needs to study some jazz.

[@BJforthelife]

Can I be your son too?

[@cthulpaspawn]

Damn good parenting.

[@alistairdimmick2886]

Did it work?

[@eljapi9346]

do not force him to play musci

[@juangarcera2544]

You do good. Jazz rues!

[@Yggdra666]

I love music to the point where I've always said that I do not have a favorite album. I listen to anything, from tibetan ceremonial music to noise, anything I can get my hands on. But this.. this is something else. I can listen to this album 3 times a day and not get bored of it. Since I have found this album about 5 months ago I have listened to this easily over 100 times and I still love it like the first time I've listened to it. I have never heard of a single piece of music that has been able to capture my attention for this long in such an intense manner even though I know of some strong contenders, this one takes the cake by a long shot. Thank you Fredrik, thank you Morgan and thanks to everyone else involved in the production of this, in my eyes, absolutely flawless piece of Art. I will carry this until the day I die.

[@krewm.2128]

You know it’s a great album when you can listen to it multiple times a day and it doesn’t get boring.

[@roybatty2268]

Couldn't agree more. There are other albums I have listened to a lot, like Mark of the Mole from the Residents to the point I can hum that whole album from beginning to end, and that is a very strange album! But SNW is the one I never get tired of. Literally every day I get in my car I tap the opening bass rhythm on the steering wheel, like its a code or password to start the car properly. I feel like I know this album so intimately.

[@aramisvanaquin827]

How the hell did the earth, let alone the Studio in which they were recording this Album, hold and not just break into pieces? I mean, judging by the result (this Album), the recording Process had to be something similar to the big bang. This Album definitely created it's own Universe.

[@GliZGoblin]

The Sinister Haunted Moartea Of Melancholy Obviously was recorded in hell

[@claytoncardoso9201]

You are gay

[@nejczupan]

Its inspired by other other musicians .. they just happen to put this kind of music into metal and made their own thing that way :)

[@cthulpaspawn]

Fabric of reality: broken

[@felinekaiju4517]

it simultaneously both destroyed and reconstructed reality around them as they recorded it. Death and rebirth. ;)

[@officialrhythmicthoughts]

14:46 SHEESH

[@dronmusicsound]

Best avant-garde metal album of all time! It’s like I’ve been looking for it all my life! Very beautiful guitar playing from Fredrik combining metal and jazz fusion!!!

[@jonrixbus]

A brutal unapologetic merging of metal and jazz. It's like the two genres went to war with each other, and everyone died and went to Valhalla where they feasted until this day and beyond.

[@ΞενοςΑγγελος]

Pretty much the record every extreme prog/tech death metal act of the 90s aspired to make, until Fred came along and proved them hopelessly deluded. It hasn't been bettered since.

[@luismg2130]

Impeccable album, I never get tired of it.

[@Galactu5]

Absolutely true! I hum it every day at least and listen a couple times per week since 1999.

[@MeekDrill]

This Is A Masterpiece

[@luisbenjaminnunezquintana4221]

Missing time, awsome, what a travel through this album..20 years later, the best ever..like you say master piece

[@BlaacHollow]

When the drum dopamine level blows my head off, you know this is a great masterpiece.

[@JoyBard]

When I first found this on Spotify I saw Fredrik Thordendal in the name and thought "Huh interesting, this must sound like Meshuggah then"... Boy was I wrong (and sorta right)

[@rooxg]

the beginning of missing time sounds soooo much like an early DOOM soundtrack ! what a wonderful album. I've been a meshug fan for more than 10 years but it took me starting to study jazz and lots of other shit to really grasp this album. Now that my ear is more developped i can really enjoy that incredible sound. To think these guys did this in 1997 is even more astonishing because they litterally were pioneering a sound that would only start getting popular 10/15 years later. Such amazing musicianship and such an underrated album !

[@AidanMmusic96]

Me too. Though ironically, I've just come out of the "schooled musician route", and it's taken this time away (and detaching my notation brain) to finally work out some of what's going on.

[@rooxg]

@@AidanMmusic96 yea i feel like this kind of music is between both worlds. I'm in no way theorically qualified enough to say with certainty whats going on here and there but being a metalhead first that got into jazz later i really understood how much jazz had influenced this music.

[@dylano0126]

Listen to the album 'Wardenclyffe Tower' by Allan Holdsworth. It's very much inspired by that. Or any of Allan's late 80s to early 90s work.

[@MaXaNoMaLoUs]

38:57 the Most Holdsworth homages I've ever heard! Please everyone listen, this is not from Sol Niger. Its a song called "Missing time" Fredrik did with Mats & Morgan, everyone also needs to realize this drummer played with Frank Zappa!

[@__Henry__]

Yes! Tone and composition very much so in several parts of the album

[@U2SaxFan]

Same goes for the song following that at 48:31, "Ohh Baby Baby." However, both tracks were included at the end of the 3.33 re-release version of Sol Niger Within as bonus tracks, which is why they're included here. It's also to note that Morgan Ågren is the drummer on Sol Niger Within, and Mats Öberg is featured on several tracks of the album.

[@snuppssynthchannel]

Never expected that, thorendal is a great player, Holdsworth is miles ahead though, that guy is unreal.

[@dylano0126]

The intro sounds like something out of Sand.

[@MaXaNoMaLoUs]

@@snuppssynthchannelwhen I met Fredrik we both acknowledged we know nothing and Holdsworth is/was the grandmaster haha.

[@Zaksporebrainiac]

If Meshuggah used those jazzy haunting clean sections much more, I'd be a lot more into them now. They're just so good.

[@ivyhallquist3159]

Bouncing In A Bottomless Pit has such a STANKY riff.

[@arcioko2142]

and such a great solo

[@colins7771]

one of the greatest albums of all time.... its pretty cool that Fredrik has been working on a second one for a long time now!!!!! Canttttttttt wait to die and be reborn again when he releases number 2.

[@stalker11421]

is that information legit?

[@Cestariarts]

He was SO MUCH AHEAD of his time, this stuff is trending now. 20 years after its release. Do you have any idea what this means?

[@xtoreighty5891]

He's a visionary!

[@cthulpaspawn]

Straight up. I always mention when this was released, still blows my damn mind. I was a wee lad when this mastery was unveiled. Sorcerers, all. Pioneering af.

[@Cestariarts]

Guys, if you're into Star Wars, look at this kzbin.info/www/bejne/oILNhnyvebuUhbM

[@8KILLSTEP]

REAL recognizeReal

[@michaeljohnston490]

I’m gonna show this album to people when I’m 60 and ask them to guess its age. Crazy to think this came out a year before I was even born

[@josephbrenner2278]

Sounds more like early 90s meshuggah mixed with strapping young lad with other psychedelic prog jazz elements in itself. And I love the Allen Holdsworth style guitar solos.

[@demoncleaner80]

Tathagata @34:13 is the outro from Sublevels on Destroy Erase Improve but just ... way more intense. Too cool.

[@SaintIntangible]

The Sun Door is one of, if not, the heaviest song ive ever heard. So ahead of their time dude.

[@ozeri]

this album, for me is the epitome (ahh love that word) of everything I look for in music. And without exaggeration, is the definition of my core self . 10 years have past since i discovered that album and on every scale : spiritualy, musicly, philosophicly, it is perfection in every aspect. I would die with this album, and go to the next reality with it. whatever reality it will be ... i almost shed tears in my eyes when i'm writing it down ..

[@IMHOLUKE]

Im 26 I first heard this album when I was 13 and it was all over for me. This is the best CD Ive heard

[@ELMarz]

I couldn't agree more with what you said. It's a god damn master piece. It transcends genre and even time.

[@DevotionToChaos]

@Matt G i enjoy you

[@productive_citizen]

This was released in 1997 and I can think of dozens of metalcore bands that would release something like this today. As always, Fredrik was/is way ahead of his time, yet undeniably timeless.

[@lordofrephaim1824]

+RespectfulDad Its great that, even though theres alot of metalcore/deathcore acts that use the 'djent' tone and play 8 string guitars, Fredriks playing is still unique, which is what makes Meshuggah such a great band.

[@productive_citizen]

+mike patton Faith No More sucked, Mike

[@heppper]

+RespectfulDad doubt any metalcore band would ever release this perfect blend of complex metal chugg riffs with fusion drums and melodies/solos.

[@productive_citizen]

+heppper It was a comment on the style, not necessarily the technical aspects. I agree with you

[@ashleyvillanueva6969]

hey! Buddha, aren't you with Jesus in super best friends? yeah. he's looking for you, you'll be his next guest on his TV show. 😂

[@Turquoise_Shores]

Yoo I can't believe Drake just dropped this secret album after certified lover boy

[@h.p.dominocus]

Hash Tag Missing time. Some of the best guitar playing I have ever heard in my life. So unique but also memorable much like alot of his other solos.

[@metadata5638]

Alan Holdsworth style of not much picking legato .

[@Facundoviscarra34]

9:56 the best fucking guitar solo EVER

[@MaXaNoMaLoUs]

Facundo viscarra 18:00 - 19:14 one of my all time favorite solos and riffs from anyone. "Bouncing in a bottomless pit"

[@BengB]

Z1 is unparalelled imo

[@israelcosta980]

so lydian...

[@andrewbennett7610]

"The executive furies of the robot lord of death" may be the best title for a heavy metal song in human history.

[@knockpotato]

25:52 This sax solo gets me every time. Jonas Knutsson, you are truly a genius accompanied by geniuses.

[@jackbenson8228]

dissolving abyssal emptiness overflowing out of and into itself

[@freestylerelaxmusicnichola7385]

I just don't know what to say, Fredrik is really not a human! No one on this entire earth has done something like this, I feel blessed every single time I listen to this ablum, this is true nirvana!

[@jonathandelucia8301]

I can't believe I found this. I played this constantly back in the day... Couldn't find much online. I thought it was lost in history. Thanks for putting this up!

[@polcio3559]

Fredrik Thordendal's guide on how to disassociate on a long night drive ™️

[@tomdongerson1474]

Polcio yes

[@momenta1279]

1:57 There's so much tension building up here. Sounds so sick when it releases. This music is absolutely insane. Amazing.

[@unabashedindividualist6232]

This was the most elusive/expensive album I've ever paid cash for.

[@tomzen660]

Largely it's the only album I have considered aqquiering. I mean: a vinyl collection got to begin somewhere, and with this work of art the standard would be set.

[@celestialaeonproject]

Pure genius in it's condensed form. Allan Holdsworth is flying on the otherside somewhere and these sounds build that ethereal bridge between this reality and the one beyond the veil.

[@ПетрИльин-э2я]

Exactly-Allan Holdsworth.. I was thinking, what it reminds me.

[@AdamDallas]

What a great image. I just had to comment to say that.

[@SilverSpoon_]

We are of course fascinated by the essential unreality of the universe. What starts out as yearning soon becomes corrupted into a dialectic of distress, leaving only a sense of unreality and the possibility of a new understanding. The man alone facing to its own god-self, into the void of existence, where all and nothing is, for the being, of who think beyond "I think therefore I am" semiotics are mere, tetradimensional conceptions for the common mortals that should be deprecated. As spatial forms become clarified through frantic and personal practice, the viewer is left with an insight into the darkness of our existence. The endless oscillation of the universe. What starts out as vision soon becomes corroded into a cacophony of chaos, which generates the cosmos, at all scales of existence, a sense of failing and the inevitability of a new understanding. Temporal replicas become clarified through a clue to the inaccuracies of our future further to a more accurate representation of a more accurate representation of the god through the universe, and the being, defying the void. Is life the only form of sentient existence since we only define it by being so or were we wrong all along is the question only Celestia could answer, as my brain melts into a thousands of high energy particles across the infinity of the cosmos. it's a bit like that.

[@jadedjay7861]

Yeah, well man that's just your opinion.

[@red9317]

same

[@davidpadgett3108]

lol sure

[@Heliosphan33]

Did you come up with that? It’s amazing. Where can I read more like it?

[@starrrkkk]

5:29 I think I listened to this about 100 times

[@IAmTrashhy]

I know this is 9 years after you commented but I don’t blame you tbh it’s all good

[@diegoarana5862]

i do not understand how i enjoy this. fredrik's riffing is too good.

[@stevestrickland0425]

Still my favorite definitely a one of a kind , It's the audio version of an intense acid trip !

[@color-head1696]

👍🏻 Wow! Very inspiring stuff! (So far I didnt know that Gollum was a Swedish Djent-Singer before he started his movie carreer in New Sealand ...)

[@conradtaylor9513]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@GojiraScorn]

This album stands on its own today. It could be released ten years from now, and still be the most relevant album that metal has ever experienced. Existential angst and ecstacy in aural form.

[@metalheadpolack]

Thank you friend. Beautifully put. It’s like an inter dimensional being crossed over to this reality and made an album..

[@robertkelly3475]

That is the craziest speck of dust I've ever seen move like that, God bless Fredrick

[@timojoki4901]

23:24 Grade-A Meshuggah name drop

[@greedo69]

haha yes

[@holygroove2]

In music, it seems Freddie can do no wrong with me. I wish more people had the same rhythmic germs that he has. I swear I get goosebumps listening to this.

[@Meshuggapeth]

Rhythmic and melodic

[@holygroove2]

+Meshuggapeth well said, very true.

[@Meshuggapeth]

j3j33j333j j333j33j3j Thanks, no homo, unless you're a female, then I love you too lol

[@Ruddi_SK]

im stuck on looping "...Och Stjärnans Namn Var Malört" ~3rd day now, 4:54 is insane

[@Heliosphan33]

So heavy and terrifying

[@Bang]

Thank you, Palm.

[@skippityblippity8656]

Bang How does feel to be a worthless burden on society?

[@bejited6932]

@@skippityblippity8656 can i have some context im really interested

[@greedo69]

@@skippityblippity8656 what

[@OHBJJ9634]

@@skippityblippity8656 cause he plays fortnite.....really.

[@bejited6932]

@@skippityblippity8656 i guess not

[@barryleedejasu]

End of 2024 and this still feels like an album from some other, distant future.

[@maxotaurus5140]

Frank Zappa + Hawkwind + Alan Holdsworth + Al Dimeola + Mahavishnu Orchestra

[@oTIEEMANUEL4940]

And much more

[@jeffreycollins7297]

You forget Naked City,John Zorn,Painkiller, and the Japanese artists like Merzbow and KK Null.

[@skippityblippity8656]

A bit of metal and punk too

[@willcook1612]

U got it Zappa

[@luisvalenzuela578]

industrial , godflesh,fear factory,anticrist superstar

[@rumblefishes]

Honestly the best music I have ever heard. I wanna cry.

[@VenapGames]

It's amazing that this Mr. has been making this music since the 90's. It seems done today. The fusion with jazz and the decomposition of the times is simply wonderful. Masterpiece.

[@bobby666666]

The first ep was earlier as it was released February 1989.

[@continuum288]

By far in my experience and opinion the best and most entertaining album i have ever heard.. iv'e probably had over 50 versions of this album. I have a ton of downloaded and ripped versions. This one included. I also have 1 of the vinyls sold from Husaria Records and years ago bought the Sol Niger Within version from Morgan Agren himself.. . I'd most likely never play it(the vinyl)even if i had a record player. This album means a fucken lot to me!

[@griffinmcclain9360]

Crazy that Meshuggah’s drummer Tomas Haake did the vocals on this one

[@j.f.bastian7118]

Only the spoken vocals tho. Fredrik does the rest.

[@mikaomalley5650]

This piece of music stands out and always will. It's a effing monument. With supreme drumming by the way.

[@barnabytomlinson7886]

This whole album is something not meant to be defined, however i can only say the playing from 9:50 to 12:48 is both impeccable and hauntingly enchanting

[@jacobtapianieto9655]

Beautiful hommage to Allan Holdsworth's master playing and improvisations!

[@igormendoncacanga2569]

13:10 - 13:16 - That's some vocality straight of something Mike Patton or Kyo would do I love it when Meshuggah members do this vocally it's so alien and insane ahahaha... Pitch Black contains similar vocals and the Exquisite Machinery Of Torture. This is soooo awesome oh thank you Mr. Thordendal!

[@joshcobb5939]

Just brilliant. Those sweds know how to do things right. Love you Fredrick

[@Wabungus2]

Holy god damn FUCK this is the most incredible piece of music I have EVER heard

[@billthebutcher1821]

This album has ran through my blood since it was released. I fucking live for this

[@metadata5638]

Same her been my top album since it was released nothing has topped it period .

[@billthebutcher1821]

@@metadata5638 🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻

[@o-REDBEARD-o]

Aliens come to Earth and dock their giant craft suspended above the desert. You can only play 1 song to communicate with them. The song: Sol Niger Within.

[@nihilanth_mudrarakshas]

Aliens : We see you have already met our leader

[@o-REDBEARD-o]

@@nihilanth_mudrarakshas hahah well done

[@papayaldabaoth]

didn't know about this record... 1997? it's anticipated so much music. incredible stuff.

[@ELECTRICSCARS]

14:46 Kraps last Tape, best Track on the whole Album 🔥🤘🏼🔥

[@nihilanth_mudrarakshas]

This is to Meshuggah what Meshuggah is to normal Metal bands

[@19RaxR91]

It has been for the longest time. Im listening to this album for the first time in its Entirety after quite some time, and it was definitely before I finally went through Destroy Erase Improve a couple of times, and if you listen to That album, I think its safe to say that Fredrik could Never really express himself to his fullest potential in Meshuggah after that ever again. Dont get me wrong, because Certainly Fredrik has done a lot of great stuff in Meshuggah, right till his leaving, but listen to This, and the Meshuggah album that came after DEI, as well as after This album came out, which is Chaosphere, and its basically This, but without most of its psychedelic tendencies, and adventurous experimentation melody-wise. I mean, when you compare the Sol Niger Within and Chaosphere, the latter might have become iconic more quickly, but the former was the Actual creative progression and elevation of ideas done in Destroy Erase Improve. Once again, not that it diminishes my fondness of Chaosphere - not in the least, but I should say that Catch Thirtythree is my all time Favorite Meshuggah album, and it might be due to it adhering more to the formula of this record, in that both are concept albums, with CT sounding like a dystopian future when compared to the transcendental trip that is SNW.

[@nihilanth_mudrarakshas]

@@19RaxR91 DEI is growing on me slowly, and I absolutely love the mind bending melodies. None and DEI are so vastly underrated despite them having some of Meshuggah's best material. I mean I love the turn Meshuggah took after DEI as well, there is not a single song I don't like. But I miss the old Meshuggah as well. It would be amazing if they decide to revisit those days in their new album

[@holygroove2]

In the Meshuggah camp it's folks who cling to Catch 33, or folks who love Chaosphere. If you like utter brutality, funk, and hip hop, Chaosphere is for you. If you like odd sounds Catch 33 is for you. I'm in the Chaosphere camp with Catch 33 and "I" being my least fav albums. I do like the parts of Catch 33 that they play live, but Chaosphere, Nothing, DEI, Obzen, Violent Sleep. Those are all albums that I listen to regularly. I haven't heard that Frederick has left Meshuggah, but that he's taken a break to record his own stuff, and build his studio, which you can see if you follow his Insta. 🤘

[@BJforthelife]

I just cant get over "Dante's Wild Inferno" it always sends me to some beautiful disastrous part of the universe, cant explain how I feel, but I enjoy every single fucking second of it

[@jaysonmerritt6666]

It’s a mix of all genres Latin beats metal vocals staccato trippy amazing

[@johnr3757]

Fred Thordendal is one of the greatest musicians to ever live, idgaf what anyone says