Free Subsonic Perks in Modern Warfare II! | (Are there Hidden Benefits?)

[@ChickenTeller]

This would be a lot better if it truly were based on the bullet velocity. It would be a nice little bonus for using the shorter barrels and would allow for some fun stealth builds for SnD

[@FreakyThinos]

Bro keep doing what you do. You make us all smarter and better

[@LowTide941]

Yea bro. No cap bro

[@filthyneutral5801]

Cap

[@alonzor.2912]

What this guy means is you’re making all of us even more sweats.

[@donovansanders]

@@alonzor.2912 you can learn everything about the game that ace provides and still play casually

[@BiG__Disgruntled]

Smarter and better at playing a game... Not smarter and better humans... To be clear.

[@nononono12345]

Appreciate this. As I’ve gotten older, I’ve had less time to figure stuff out and these are like a cliff notes to get me ramped quickly. THANK YOU!

[@andrewdibben1916]

We love and support you dude. We come here for hidden tips and tricks and special gun stuff.

[@nhbjhbbhbhgvb]

There is still a decent tracer that comes out of the gun with subsonic ammo. It’s not a bright light like the normal rounds but is more of a Smokey disturbance in the air along with all of the smoke that comes out of your gun. I wish they would add subsonic ammo into the game for all weapons and make it so the range is bad but it ACTUALLY hides all visible tracers

[@supremekinggaiseric7779]

Thats not a tracer then. The tracer is the bright light. It is not a generic term for anything that can be used to trace the shot back to the original point. Tracers are specific rounds interlaced in the magazine to make it easier to track, and they are simply mimicking that

[@paulregener7016]

@@supremekinggaiseric7779 Yeah so when I am not using tracer rounds you shouldn’t see my bullets and even then not every single bullet is a tracer when using tracers it’s always 1 normal 1 tracer repeat until mag is empty.

[@Rashed1255]

Most guns can’t cycle subsonic ammo. I think MW2019 did it better with what guns got subsonic ammo, here it’s just a few correct ones with a couple random 9mm SMGs being subsonic.

[@thomasstewart1380]

@@Rashed1255 Almost every modern gun in the world can cycle subsonic ammo. You have no idea what you're talking about.

[@Rashed1255]

@@thomasstewart1380 any video I checked the gun doesn’t cycle subsonic ammo without any adjustments…

[@TheCodyMac]

*Top Notch as Always, Ace!* Thank you for ALL the research, testing and hard work you continuously put into producing these videos (for us). You da GOAT.

[@billnye6291]

I feel like bullet velocity is so good and because of that it would be really cool to tie these perks with bullet velocity instead of the gun and actually buff the benefits more. Creating another trade of for every gun to consider. It obviously needs to be more beneficial to be subsonic for people to consider it on other weapons.

[@BornofIron]

Hey I normally don't comment like this on videos that give tutorials or tips. It's just not in my nature, but as a BF fan who decided "hey the 2010s are back" and bought MW22, I'm THOROUGHLY impressed by this video. As a gun nut and coming from a game that (relatively) embraces realism in gun mechanics and physics, you basically addressed every question I'd have from bullet velocity changes, to the audio of those cracks. Impressive job and I have loved your point-of-fact delivery. You so do not ooze that annoying caricature of fishing for the algorithm that I see with other creators and you've made my experience in MW22 fun and sincerely a little more easy on my mind. I'm having fun and you're part of that little slice of down time I have each day. Thanks and happy holidays if you celebrate.

[@xfrom321]

I’ve never even read the descriptions and realized the subsonic benefits. Love that you covered this!

[@JDFlyy]

If anything subsonic guns with suppressors should be a lot quieter than the regular guns that’s how they are in real life I believe

[@squiffedallday]

You are 100% correct. 1050 FPS is what I remember to be subsonic

[@KekusMagnus]

yes, that's why supressed guns almost always fire subsonic ammo. It is many orders of magnitude quieter than unsupressed supersonic guns

[@tihruytssgjjvsavcxtbvhj3429]

A suppressed gun with subsonic ammo is quieter than airsoft. You'll definitely hear it from 50 meters away in a quiet environment, but it doesn't sound like a gunshot, more like a click.

[@JDFlyy]

So they should balance subsonic guns as a niche stealth playstyle to where the suppressed guns are much quieter than non subsonic guns, or idk maybe that’ll be too strong

[@DevlVergil]

@@JDFlyy I'm assuming that's what they were aiming at with the subsonic ammo to begin with. Though I don't understand why they made it exclusive to only a few weapons instead of adding subsonic as a general ammo type for most guns. Stealth players would have more variety and it would make balancing much easier because they'd just have to heavily reduce effective range and bullet velocity in exchange so the gun becomes less useful in duels but more useful for flanking/stealth.

[@xavierdraco33]

Makes no difference really, the enemy is bound to have a UAV up, as mean team always seem determined to get themselves killed. I hate how much they nerfed stealth play.

[@bushmonster1702]

IW stink

[@jammaschan]

If they didn't nerf stealth play people would complain about campers and stuff.

[@sparta1n117]

@@jammaschan people still complain about camping. Deteriorating the stealth playstyle didnt stop campers. People are going to camp regardless

[@roar104]

@@jammaschan if only there was something that they could have done to make ghost actually useful but not useful for camping. Maybe something CoD has already done. Something like it deactivates after sitting in place for too long, like they have previously. Imagine that.

[@kxyodyodhdu]

I wish modern crate searcher 2 didn't have a monopoly. We need more games where 90% of the player base isn't 100% reliant on chasing red and green dots.

[@therealslimgamey1]

I get a mild semi when Xclusive releases a new video. And then I need to go subsonic. You are a good man ace.

[@TheWesman45]

So, irl, subs are basically no quieter than supers without a silencer(there are exceptions, I know) . It's when you use a suppressor the difference can be noticed. Bullets make three sounds on semi auto/select fire guns. The muzzle report. That is, the explosion that comes out of the barrel. The super sonic crack, if applicable and the action of the weapon cycling. Silencers attempt to deal with the 😂report, subsonic rounds deal with the crack. The action stays loud. Unless you have a manually operated firearm. With the exception of most revolvers. These are usually very quiet when shot suppressed with subs. Like movie, scary, quiet.

[@NotCarpeDM]

My 'Like' isn't just for the video, it's for you. You're a gem, bud. 👏

[@ianor2304]

Keep on grinding Ace. Can’t wait to see some more attachment vids especially. Maybe a guide to tuning now it’s fixed too. Cheers man!

[@Romoredux]

I'm still a FIRM BELIEVER in Supressors FOR SOME LOADOUTS. Mainly on bigger maps but I use them on all 5 of the subsonic guns always for some reason. Just makes it a little bit harder to find me if I'm playing super Ratty.

[@Echo_Online]

"you can see by looking at the descriptions of the guns" bold of you to assume I can read

[@ProvidenceXIV]

1:35 RIP George

[@Gilrek]

any word on if the BAS-p has been fixed in S2??

[@wokkyminniecon9803]

Ace out here giving us some real life learning from COD, nice 👍🏾

[@TPCo0Lz]

I wouldn’t expect the Devs to know the sub-super difference 😂😂 Amazed the Chimera “Honey Badger” is correctly chambered!

[@SFOPS]

Really feels like they took their time on learning real details about each gun. The reloads are spot on

[@TPCo0Lz]

@@SFOPS just reloading is much different than the rest of the gun though. They always go for “realism” and it hurts the game more than helps imo. If they had realism after 3-5 rounds in full auto we would have insane vertical recoil lol.

[@KekusMagnus]

@@TPCo0Lz if they really went for realism SMGs would be hopelessly outclassed and the CDL tryhards wouldn't shut up about it

[@scottjs5207]

@@TPCo0Lz That's not how full auto works. If you've heard anyone talk about it, you get to a point where you're basically at equilibrium with the weapon system effectively "removing recoil" because you're leaning in enough to the shots that the firing force is holding you up. People with great enough experience would be able to pull this off like a baseball player can accurately throw a ball at a target without needing to think about it.

[@TPCo0Lz]

@@scottjs5207 Yeah but look at this game… running, diving, jumping… moving whilst shooting most full autos, Goodluck.

[@Adam-pc8dl]

Thanks for the video. Just hopped on the call of duty bandwagon from battlefield and your videos help alot!

[@DevlVergil]

They should add subsonic as attachments, not as integral to the guns. Would add more variety for Stealth players and it would also be easier to balance. They could simply add it as an ammo type and heavily reduce bullet velocity and effective range in exchange for the benefits of hidden skulls and tracers. For the MP5 they could even add the iconic MP5SD barrel that slows bullets down by design.

[@Astrothunderkat]

Suppressors need a re work, same with super/sub sonic sound

[@deathstramy7272]

Itd be cool if some guns like the mp5sd could turn their bullets subsonic but with specific attachments or just subsonic ammo attachments

[@danieldanielson2324]

0:38 in the player’s defense, the description for the Chimera and others are literally cut off so how is the player supposed to know. It would be nice if IW can fix the UI so it can fit the whole description of a weapon. The whole point is to display the gun and briefly explain why should I use it instead of something else.

[@yourstillwithme]

Really would love for you to do more tests with recoil stuff and under barrels to see recoil plots and report on that stuff. The community literally has 0 idea whats going on with attachments and what does the best stuff for recoil and i feel like the FTAC Ripper, actually may not be meta based on what ive found. I think commando foregrip might be the play again tbh. Would love to see what you've found/can find

[@deathstramy7272]

Considering they claim to be gun nuts subsonic ammo provides a lot of attachment possibilities surprised they didn’t implement it in a game with ammo types

[@Excessive_complaining]

3:08 I think it's got something to do with how they put the chimera on the same receiver track as the basp and m13b.

[@danielschmidt7153]

The insane nerf to stealth play means subsonic ammo is pointless as hell, they really added things in the game that have zero purpose given the run and gun unlimited UAV gameplay

[@DangOldRegularOld]

Subsonic should be an ammo type any weapon except shotguns and sniper rifles can use.

[@jakegianino5762]

What I was wondering is if the red skull from an enemy death location is affected by this? Say my teammate gets a kill with the Bizon, does it still show with the Tracker perk?

[@Flustershy]

I do find it quite funny how ace is demonstrating the subsonic guns in the only game mode where the skullmarkers mean jack all.

[@xxKURTMANxx]

As a gun guy IRL a lot of the weapon attachment pros and cons kill me lol. This subsonic but not actually stuff included.

[@Calvin_Coolage]

There's no real reason for this to not just be an ammo option instead of being tied to specific guns.

[@xxKURTMANxx]

@@Calvin_Coolage Exactly.

[@SmokeyOwOs]

Kinda neat ngl that there's differences in guns now

[@DeanJaeger]

Any chance you’ll review Anti-Armor Rounds from the field upgrade slot? I’m wondering if they are worth it.

[@DWalter.27]

I call it "60 free rounds whenever you run out of ammo". Screw the penetration use, it's reserve ammo that doesn't take forever to use like the ammo box and doesn't blow up either.

[@gablerthirtytwo]

I think it would be great if it was tied to the velocity and it feels kinda lazy that its not but whats new i guess lol

[@RoscoeJones85]

I think it was mw1, but there used to be bullet crack for sonic weapons and it was really cool.

[@Dogma44]

Tuning muzzle velocity to virtually make every gun subsonic would be a cool idea. But I think that level of depth is beyond this game's capabilities.

[@Tueurdegeek]

Do you have the lethals in your video planning? I feel like C4s do less dmg compared to MW2019. Great content as always!

[@mcnalga]

I think the damage radius is smaller in this game, but they’re still good especially when combined with strong arm and fast hands.

[@amazingmenace6168]

I like that they’re trying to subsonic to the game I just wish it was tied to bullet velocity.

[@MrGrin79]

I'm not a computer nerd, but I think it may be hard to program the signal that turns on and off at the sonic threshold.

[@jakecheck3225]

I wish they would bring g back the integral suppressor for the mp5 like in 2019 made the bullets subsonic like irl and would carry these benefits. May e they should add a subsonic ammo attachment for all the guns and make it velocity dependant. I just want a realistic stats based game like tarkov but smooth like cod is that too much to ask? And also knock it off with the fake gun name bullshit.

[@djabouty47]

Subsonic rounds are so weird. Why isn't it an ammunition type like in VG? Why isn't it tied to the BV of the gun? I feel like that latter option would be a cool buff to shorter barrels and BV decreasing attachments in general.

[@RUINERx117]

The .45 ACP and .300 BLK are well known to be sub-sonic unless you are running REALLY hot ammo. So considering this is an arcade shooter with realistic attributes it makes sense that it is tied to the gun and not various attachment combos.

[@COUNTB85]

.300blk is well known to have both super and sub sonic loads. Its not "really hot ammo" its standard

[@TS_2424]

HCR has an integrated silenced barrel option as well.

[@BlackOut-zv8sk]

The Chimera is hard to control so I slapped the full recoil build on it but still use the default barrel:0

[@Schlachter748]

For the algorithm! Nahh keep doing what you do! Thank you

[@williewillikers9631]

The fact that the x12-13 arent considered subsonic but the fennec, p890 (that shoot .45), the minibak, mx9, (supposedly) bas-P, (which shoot the same 9mm) *are* is so painful. Imo they both could use the subsonic perk buff (although it wont make them must-picks, more of a QoL change) technically the lachman sub should be too.

[@romnitorres9915]

Love the vids ace!

[@_M0NTY]

Great vid! I was wondering, did you only test the super vs sub sound profile unsuppressed? Or did you also test if there's an audible difference between super/sub when using a suppressor? ILR, a suppressed subsonic is noticeably quieter than a suppressed supersonic, but they don't sound much different unsuppressed (at least up close) because an unsuppressed gunshot covers up the sonic crack for the most part.

[@Stormraven96]

While I do agree that it would be neat to gain the benefit from essentially debuffing your velocity, it also makes sense to be related to the ammo anyway. Subsonic ammo is usually either much heavier/denser, or has weaker propellant. In either case your normal rounds would still weigh the exact same and have just as much gas exploding out of the muzzle.

[@Sneaky313]

It's probably easier to remember which guns are subsonic if they just make the subsonic properties tied to the gun and not bullet velocity, even though that doesn't make sense. The game is already complicated and wrong displaying one of the guns, so they'd probably just fuck it up more by changing it to bullet velocity.

[@Spiderwolfer]

Why does this affect tracers? Why is this not just an option? I thought it was really dumb all guns in this game have tracer rounds by default. It’s a step back from MW. Also Ace you’re right it should be tied to the actual velocity. It would also be cool if subsonic ammo made it so your blip on the radar was shorter.

[@Svydnar]

Does changing the ammo attachment disable subsonic at all? Wondering because changing the ammo on the "Nice" gun to explosive rounds disables it's special effect.

[@Shadow-s5x]

Honey badger is my favorite close range Assault rifle because of build in suppressor

[@steven5548]

What about the belle indicator, damage indicator of where the billet came from? Does subsonic affect that? Does anyone know ?

[@AardvarkPaysOff]

The fact that tracers aren't tied to the bullet projectiles themselves seems lazy and like poor game development to come from a multi billion dollar franchise

[@nickwhite2569]

just think it's strange how they decided which guns would be "subsonic". The only ones that actually make sense here are the Chimera, Fennec, and the P890. Everything else would need to be using underpressured ammo to achieve subsonic in real life. Even the .300 blackout in the Chimera would be supersonic unless you're using subsonic ammo specifically

[@OldSchoolGamer503]

What's up Ace have a question for you what is your full gun setup on this video

[@thebarbersassociation]

can u do the breakdown stats on the SO-14 on full-auto mode? that gun melts 💯

[@SashaTheNun]

I used that gun with 50 drum magazine even in dmz melts squads

[@thebarbersassociation]

@@SashaTheNun facts

[@scottjs5207]

I'm not fond Sub sonics being built into a weapon, especially with weapons like the AUG which fundamentally defeats the purpose of a bullpup weapon system. I'd rather it be a combination of how you kit you weapon or what ammo you're using. Not the gun itself. I'm not just bringing this up because "It'S MoRe ReAliStiC", but rather because I think that's a degree of realism that makes the game more fun because it actually gives you a reason to hurt your weapon's BV unlike if you were playing the previous MW. Also, supersonic cracks seem to be largely missing anyway, which I never realized how useful it was to find where an enemy was shooting me from until I picked up playing this one. I usually only occasionally get it from a sniper.

[@LunaPPK]

can you please test the bomb squad perk? LIke the damn perk acts like its not working sometimes

[@travisjones6645]

when are they going to fix the 9mm AP not unlocking properly?

[@jont60]

I like I like your videos b4 I even I even watch coz your tjat good. Merry Xmas to you amd yours

[@bobfranklin2572]

So im guessing if i "change" the ammo type by putting on say, fmj rounds, i wont loose the subsonic bonus right?

[@bushmonster1702]

Sub sonic is built into the gun. Attachments have no impact.

[@MrEroupe]

My biggest issue is how most every attachment increases ads. Even a red dot. Red dots without magnification should increase ads time. Its way easier to get on target with red dot than iron sights in real life.

[@arcascrow4835]

Yeah but it's a game and not a simulator. It's all about who can acquire target the fastest

[@MrEroupe]

@@arcascrow4835 but it shouldn’t increase ads time as much as it does.

[@Shugenja86]

Red dots are like 1 frame lost and you have even the basic laser which makes up for that. Many barrels, stocks and rear grips reduce too and weapon tuning. There has to be some loss over irons for your target acquisition advantage.

[@MrEroupe]

@@Shugenja86 watch his other video about ads time and the penalty. Its super unbalanced. Using attachments which increase ads adds up to 25ms. Using attachments that decrease ads adds up to like 300 or 400 ms. Which almost makes the attachments that increase ads unusable.

[@arcascrow4835]

@@Shugenja86 I don't know. I prefer iron sights because I feel like I can acquire target faster 🤷‍♂️

[@onearmedwolf6512]

Id never pick a gun in this game for that specifically. As the game is id rather choose a gun that has higher velocity. Even though its not tied to velocity, they are all slow except bas. Id much rather them fix supressers so they dont disable ghost when shooting. As is ghost is way weaker than it should be and uav are even more of a crutch.

[@robshacks]

super interesting! didn't know this!

[@MofSeth]

Amazing, thank you very much !

[@KingWorm75]

Hey, great video... but one thing I've never seen you address is if slower bullet velocity results in a higher TTK. Surely the subsonic bullets would take longer to reach their target?

[@ben503onthatshit]

The bullet velocity really only affects ttk in ground war or war zone, the 6v6 maps are too small

[@xSP3CTREx]

May not be obvious but High Velocity Ammo is +P+, which should cycle the action, bolt carrier etc faster. Ammo along with gas system, barrel, port size can affect the rate of fire. So it should speed up slightly.

[@KekusMagnus]

@@xSP3CTREx high velocity ammo in this game is just a lighter projectile, hence it decreases range. +P is its own separate attachment (and it barely does anything)

[@nickg8100]

So the integrated suppressor does keep you off the radar right?

[@SabreLeonheart]

Draw......? Man no one mentioning how THICC the skill based match making was in this video.

[@Kyle-ye5eo]

Somebody with a bunch of guns needs to invite you over to do some irl testing!

[@D44RK_Iced_Yogs]

The fact that going below subsonic doesn’t do anything is hugely disappointing. It’s nitpicky but If this was the case it would actually help suppressors and make any gun better for rushing. It’s honestly a disadvantage to other guns as well, it’s very slight but it would help with rushing a ton.

[@Mohammad-ne1vv]

Most quiet and best subsonic gun in game is Raal MG, That gun has no sound and its a huge benefit of it

[@scottjs5207]

Don't you just love when something's so loud, it becomes the exact opposite? 😆I liked it's sound better in 19 but they both be sounding crazy scary!

[@MPaulCezanne]

Thanks Ace!

[@KekusMagnus]

why is this not an ammo attachment available on every gun? Plus, Subsonic ammo should reduce damage and range while making significantly less noise, especially when suppressed. How hard is it to model it properly..

[@TheBalloonatic]

great video, thanks!

[@Cheeeseyboi]

I used the sakin MG whatever it is yesterday. I pressed Y to switch weapons. It didn't switch. I switched classes to the SO-14 and it worked

[@ripHalo0002]

What is the battle rage field upgrade for? My screen just gets super hazy

[@ar1299gaming]

If I'm not mistaken less screen shake and I belive you can eat like an extra shot

[@killshot3331]

Read the description and it tells you. It makes you immune to tactical equipment and refreshes tac sprint or something like that. Can’t remember exactly

[@brettnause5411]

Resistance to tactical equipment, constant tac sprint, no healing delay, you just immediately start regaining health, even if that's between getting shot with two bullets. Don't get me wrong it's not insane and it definitely won't matter if you eat like five rounds out of an M4 at point blank range but paired with battle hardened and bomb squad I've been able to sit on a hardpoint and eat flashes and frags without dying. The issue is that the film grain consistently gets me killed because I can't see anything, that really needs to be removed.

[@burr6303]

Infinity Ward….keepin CoD realistic up until the point where it makes sense. Gotta love em.

[@xwF4T4L1TYwx]

What if you use a subsonic him with high velocity ammo 🤔

[@TheDC-ks3tw]

Would love to see a video on the difference between core and hardcore bullet velocity I feel there is a huge difference.

[@Prplex.]

No

[@TheDC-ks3tw]

@@Prplex. yes

[@autonomous8108]

When I was using the Chimera, I would unlock my quick fix perk, but it would also tell me ghost is active which I thought was weird or a glitch or something lol

[@Romoredux]

OMG AFTER THIS LAST PATCH....I have at least 1 attachment "bugged" related to the 9k; lvl 12 > the last ammo type for SMGs feels bad =/

[@Sayshtoown]

Dont know if you realize but you just gave your viewers many of which i assume are not knowledgeable on firearms a good lesson on ammo, sub and super sonic rounds. Im convinced your one of the best undercover guntubers on youtube. Video games are gonna do a lot to educate and get people caring more about their rights than any legal organization. Keep it up 👍

[@AC-hj9tv]

True. Repeal all gun laws

[@makatron]

What's the tag to find the group to bs able to play with you guys?

[@mossimoto]

Maybe I missed an announcement but are you only going to be covering multiplayer and no warzone content for the foreseeable future?

[@TheXclusiveAce]

Yes, I have zero interest in Warzone

[@cynthia4332]

Did they get rid of the subsonic ammo? I couldn’t find it in the Fennec or pistol?

[@framekixrr]

What?

[@astrix_mvp]

Uhm, it should probably be tied to the type of ammunition and/or whether you are using a suppressor/muzzle flash hider. Also they should fix the description of the basp.... shouldn't be THAT hard, just a few words...

[@fuzzynuttz5092]

If there is I'd be pissed cause why can't IW just tell us what each attachment or anything related actually does

[@Whaley96]

I keep getting the feeling it's for balance reasons, to keep everyone from navigating to one weapon (ie best weapon) and just keeps it to where no one know. Therefore diversity because noone knows what to use.

[@Masochistickoala]

@@Whaley96yeah except it doesnt work like that because everyone is riding the rpk in wz and 74u in multiplayer 😂. CW had more gun diversity and they gave detailed stats

[@RaviStar108]

Aren’t there weapons that have barrels that add the subsonic feature? Are those accurate?

[@brucetumblinjr7980]

I’m waiting on the battle rifles next!

[@Catboy-hr2qp]

I think they should make subsonic guns in game quieter when suppressed

[@therealslimgamey1]

Let's look at the knife next for fun dude

[@bobfranklin2572]

This honestly wouldve made a cool free attachment or something; even if being truly free is unrealistic. Imo almost all universal ammo types shoulda been free-rolls.

[@PlayKun]

So you can still change the barrel on the chimera and it’ll still be subsonic ?

[@floatingpyro2050]

Yeah, but it won't have a suppressor on it.

[@INKf3KT]

Great video bro, It would be awesome if you can clear my doubt on why suppressors anulate the ghost perk. Good vibes bro!

[@hamza-chaudhry]

He already did a video on that

[@INKf3KT]

@@hamza-chaudhry share the link to me please

[@bushmonster1702]

@@INKf3KT kzbin.info/www/bejne/g17XfJ2ufqqKftE&ab_channel=TheXclusiveAce

[@RoninX5]

Skulls are only for Core not Tier1 correct?