FreeBSD 141 Review | Download, Install & Config | XFCE,KDE,Gnome + Wifi

[@greblus]

My first impressions after 20+ years of using mostly Linux are very positive. A bit nostalgic too because of my Slackware love from the past. I was planning to use it on my old laptops, but S4 hibernation is not available, S3 doesn't work, so I think I'll install it on some newer hw with Intel or AMD GPU and fast SSD to minimize startup time. ❤ your channel, thank you for the installation tutorial.

[@Rakitzch]

Thank you for your tutorials. I'm considering daily-driving FreeBSD or OpenBSD on desktop as a user-developer. Currently been reading documentations first. Three questions regarding this video though, answer from others are also welcome; 1. (timestamp is 8:53); Why is it preferable to unselect local_unbound? Is it due to personal preference to pfSense? 2.A. (timestamp is 9:14); What are the benefits of leaving proc_debug disabled? 2.B. (et al.); In another installation video, you've enabled hide_uids and hide_gids (which to me seemed insecure), how much of a difference are these options in regular use cases?

[@RoboNuggie]

1 - I disable it out of habit I suppose as quite a while ago I kept getting resolve issues and I left to my pfsense amd lattertly my Pihole.... 2 - I don't need this and the other processes it pulls in such as ptrace, and ktrace, but I suppose if you need lldb, truss and procstat it would be bestter to not disable... 3 - As you know this prevents unprivileged users from seeing running processes from other users and groups....I have seen multiple posts saying it's good, others saying why bother and some saying don't.... I look at it this way, on a multi-user system, the only people who need to know are yourself and root....

[@Rakitzch]

@RoboNuggie Thank you for the informative answer! Regarding 3 (hiding other uids), that's an interesting way of looking at it. I can see the appeal of it being applied in both ways depending on the setting and use case.

[@GreeneThumbs]

FreeBSD's birthday, you say? Sounds like a good excuse to install it and start tinkering.

[@RoboNuggie]

:-)

[@AlmeuP5Dro]

Think that the developers are not looking You Tube ?😀 It's almost 2025... and after the installation ( luckily if you are able to finish it ) , you are looking at a prompter, like in 19... Well, this is very appealing to newbies like me 😀 Anyhow thanks for this video , it convinced me that FreeBSD will have a lot of "normal" desktop users ( as a daily driver 😁 ) in the future

[@clintthompson4100]

Hey awesome I found this installation guide of 14.1. got a question before I watched this video I saw a gentleman on eBay who sells FreeBSD case badges for your Tower or Desktop case. I have it saved in my eBay. To me that's a sweet addition to this. The case badges are a black and silver look to them.

[@Maisonier]

Amazing video! I'm a new user of GNU/Linux after the mess Windows made, but I ended up on FreeBSD, seeing if it's possible to install Wayland and Wayfire (just because I enjoy seeing that desktop and window animation, not for any special reason). As a novice with these systems, I don't really think it will be very useful, but it's for a generic laptop "kiano", with an i3-5005u, which doesn't have many upgrade options, so I was thinking of setting it up permanently. For some strange reason, this computer is running very poorly, and I can't add RAM or anything (everything is soldered). I thought that reaching this level might offer better performance, since Debian with XFCE seems really unattractive to me. Thank you for sharing your knowledge, liked and subscribed.

[@RoboNuggie]

Thank you for your kind words and sub!

[@bob_mosavo]

FreeBSD Day on June 19 commemorates the launch date of the innovative technology 👍

[@RoboNuggie]

It does indeed....

[@ximalas]

Did you enable ntpd and its sync on start when you tried 14.1 on the RPi? In my head, ntpd should take care of setting the time in the OS, regardless of an RTC.

[@mbernardi1961]

This really should be set as default behaviour, and would resolve the issue with pkg failing to work.

[@RoboNuggie]

@ximalas didn't on the recent install, the weird thing is I never had any issues on the PI before until the 14.1 release.... I must admit it threw me until someone told me it was a date issue.... so from now on I will set that on every new install on the Pi...

[@RoboNuggie]

@mbernardi1961 On the Pi, yes it should be.....

[@joseloeza371]

Excellent video thanks Chris

[@hesam-init]

thanks for great tutorial 🙏🙏

[@zhongj]

Do you think FreeBSD should adopt ESM approach that Ubuntu implemented for their LTS release so prolong releases so people don't have to upgrade as often?

[@RoboNuggie]

Maybe,.... you could install FreeBSD-STABLE and have a kind of rolling release - that's what GhostBSD does.... but the install process from one version to another has been flawless for me for the last few years, and having a boot snapshot take place before you decide to upgrade really does help in case something goes wrong.....

[@zhongj]

@@RoboNuggie FreeBSD supports a release for five years and if they could extend to ten years, I think it might be better for businesses so they can deal with major upgrades less often. Let me know your opinion if this is something that it's better suited for user or businesses.

[@YoSoyCCC]

Don't you use sudo or doas commands...? Thank you! ✌🏽

[@RoboNuggie]

I do use doas, sometimes..... perhaps not as much as I should - and I suppose it is laziness, that when doing multiple commands in root, I tend to use "su -", Bad habit I suppose :-)

[@htx80nerd]

I installed plasma six, then later installed Konsole but konsole is for kde5. So it removed a huge chunk of kde six. What an absolute mess.

[@johanb.7869]

What are soft updates?🤔 Why doesn't FreeBSD offer iso's with Xfce, Mate or KDE desktops like Linux does? Or iso's with for instance Calamares installer? Guhnome😜

[@manuell3505]

Filesystem modification history to prevent corruption from power loss. Didn't notice the improvements yet. I was still using FAT for any critical storage. That's instant write and verify in exchange for expensive system calls.

[@clintthompson4100]

Hey RoboNuggie my bad on the question part. The case badges are not from geekinspiel( probably totally misspelled that) but from a seller called 5 star case badge. The free BSD one really cool in the silver and black version. For anyone here doing a computer build and also Installing Free BSD this would be a great way to show everyone what your personal machine or server is running. Have a good one.

I find it useful to add "status=progress" for dd to see what's going on and how long it's going to take. To set your packages from quarterly to latest: `mkdir -p /usr/local/etc/pkg/repos ; sed 's/quarterly/latest/' /etc/pkg/FreeBSD.conf > /usr/local/etc/pkg/repos/FreeBSD.conf`. Also you could've used sysrc for /etc/rc.conf editing and you should always have ntpd running (pkg issues) but this was a nice slow paced intro to FreeBSD on desktop. :)

[@watchmakerful]

Many other manuals require installing SDDM before KDE or Gnome. Here I don't see this step. Why?

[@RoboNuggie]

SDDM really only provides a graphical login, if you prefer the shell, then manually executing 'startx' the way I did it in this video.... It's personal taste I suppose.... and for many, until everything is configured, with graphics drivers, installs, networking etc, having a manual way to start the desktop is much easier than it starting up on it's own especially when you need to alter something in the xinitrc.....when all is configured, then you can install SDDM, that's how I look at it....

[@dingokidneys]

I think if you installed NetworkManager as part of your initial desktop environment install, you'd get GUI wifi management.

[@RoboNuggie]

Now you tell me :-) I'd forgotten about this, thanks for reminding me dingokidneys (that's a great online name btw!)

[@saymehname]

Just in time I was going to do a fresh install

[@charleswilliams8368]

I've been wondering if it's time to do a fresh install, myself. I've been using the same one for four years now, as a daily driver. Upgrade after upgrade during that time.

[@RoboNuggie]

@charleswilliams8368 If everything runs fine, then I would just carry on..... and be glad you can upgrade after upgrade unlike some other OS that always needs a fresh install :-)

[@ulfen69]

I’m getting closer and closer to 100 percent FreeBSD. Still have an issue with installing the Linux chromium web browser so I can watch my videos on Udemy which unfortunately not is DRM free. There is a conflict between py39 and py311 markdown. I don’t know how to fix that. Looking for a solution.

[@marcosAmaranteC]

I don't know if all Udemy courses work in Firefox, but mine are running smoothly.

[@ulfen69]

@@marcosAmaranteC Some of the videos are DRM free. But not all of them

[@mirror1766]

20240529 entry in /usr/ports/UPDATING has information about migrating from 39 to 311 as default. Users of pkg can run `pkg updating | less` to find the entry too. If already attempted and still stuck, it would be wise to reach out to the FreeBSD ports (unless there is a python specific) mailing list.

[@technotv3227]

wonder would it work on a AMG GPU, i am having trouble with , restarts , xfce never worked, at least plasma works for sometime but reboots. Has its own mind for some reason. I installed freeBSD 14.

[@mirror1766]

on older nvidia with BIOS booting, I can crash plasma on command by merely switching to a virtual terminal and back to xorg. You will likely find better help with issues on the mailing list among other sources but knowing the specific GPU and which drm-*-kmod you are using would help. You can likely try other versions of drm; usually newest is better but with changes there are bugs that work in too sometimes. Is it a full machine reboot, the whole GUI, or just a part like plasma?

[@leonmerts702]

For WiFi I always first (on cable) go to desktop environment install networkmgr and use that to connect to WiFi. No need for any configuration by hand (except for the password).

[@RoboNuggie]

That's certainly one way..... :-)

[@ByteMeCompletely]

I haven't been able to get sound out of HDMI for over ten years. Daily, I drive Linux. My latest system is a GMKtek K8, FreeBSD won't even open x11.

[@GiorgioBeltrammi]

Very very well. Thank you.

[@danimusbar]

please make another tutorial about vps for web app production elixir and phoenix framework build on freebsd 14 tks

[@fmsilva11]

freebsd already have network drivers for realtek 2.5G ethernet ?

[@daGraveR]

No. At least 14.1, you'd have to install the 'net-realtek-re'-package from ports, unfortunately.

[@mirror1766]

In my experience I had to install it from pkg/ports when I last tried with 14.0. My motherboard had 2 ports and the other was a measly, but supported, 1gigabit. The native driver seemed to cause less issues than the one from pkg/ports in my limited testing.

[@Mudflap1110]

Is GhostBSD caught up yet?(14.1)

[@RoboNuggie]

I don't think so......not yet...

[@ranimungcal]

how can i adjust the laptop screen brightness on freebsd pls let me know im a newbie thank you!

[@RoboNuggie]

I don't habe a laptop at hand, and I don't know what model you have, but here is something you can try... (as root): kldload acpi_video (and then any of these) pkg install xbacklight pkg install gammy pkg install lxqt-config.

[@ranimungcal]

@@RoboNuggie thank you for these!

[@ranimungcal]

@@RoboNuggie thanks i installed the gammy app but it looks horrible it looks like a fog on lcd display btw im using a thinkpad x220.

[@SouthFacedWindows]

Is that a little devil the logo?

[@KremmArmin]

Yes

[@philiprobar]

No, it’s Beastie the daemon.

[@xravenx24fe]

It's a mascot

[@RoboNuggie]

Not really, it's a play on the term daemon, which in this case isn't referring the little thing that's smells of sulphur but to the running background task in Unix like OS's....so a cartoon version of a daemon was drawn up called Beastie, again a play on words. FreeBSD then introduced an official logo called Orb, which took on the colouring and a little of the mascot design....namely the ears..... but no, it's not a devil :-)

[@boxerfencer]

Satan himself in all his majesty.

[@maksiodzidek1]

risc-v support?

[@mirror1766]

tier-3 support on 12, tier-2 on 13 and 14.

[@PatrickInCayman]

*sysrc* kld_list="linux linux64 ..." dbus_enable=YES is your friend ;)

[@RoboNuggie]

Indeed, thank you :-)

[@fra4455]

Great👍

[@lee99bay]

🙋

[@RoboNuggie]

:-)

[@richardbennett4365]

The presenter seems to still be on quarterly, not latest channel for the repository, so it is the reason he doesn't find kde6, but don't use it anyway. It hardly works.