Troll and 4channer argue about dating bodypillows.

[@frenchbaguetteintelligence]

0:00 - Introduction. 3:05 - 4channer arrives, 10:00 Bodypillows enter the chat.

[@oliverparis3361]

If I may play the devil's advocate, early cavemen created figurines of women to satisfy themselves, meaning that this was somewhat instinctual and even if it wasn't, if the pillow isn't personified and used purely as an object then it's no different to any other tool of the same purpose, meaning that this person has merely demystified sexual relation without needing to experience it first, showing that, while I strongly disagree with some of the points they brought up, they're not as bad as you would perceive, if only slightly. (And no, I don't own or use one, good lord!)

[@javasiege]

Music timestamps?

[@Dahaka-rd6tw]

Is "Culture" a Good Excuse for Violence? part 2! Subject this time? Eating ortolan.

[@vadandrumist1670]

21:31 FC arrives.

[@SophiaAstatine]

@@oliverparis3361 I'd like to see the academic paper for that research. 😂

[@marvingreenscreen9947]

"You look like an asshole." "I also behave like one. that's why I support judging people by their appearance" absolute gold

[@seignee]

god i love this fucking community

[@willow5945]

Post Script: Knowing the lore that Bowl has a squeaky voice gives me an entirely new perspective on his character.

[@user-lh7mt7zo7l]

Same. My brain just assumed he sounded like Miles Edgeworth for zero reason lmao

[@LuzikArbuzik77]

@@user-lh7mt7zo7l I kinda suspected that he will not be your typical gigachad lol

[@willow5945]

@@user-lh7mt7zo7l What, you mean like a series of beeps?

[@yurirollrrir1807]

i can't help but imagine Bowl sounding like Alvin the Chipmunk after reading this.

[@user-lh7mt7zo7l]

@@willow5945 Well thought either the pitch of those beeps represented his pitch of voice or that maybe he might sound like edgeworths VA. I've not really thought about it tbh but it obviously doesn't make sense for me to assume this

[@toast_2375]

"It's a good confession. I regret nothing." 💀💀💀

[@frenchbaguetteintelligence]

Nothing.

[@The_Evening_Sun]

@@frenchbaguetteintelligence I regret your message

[@akasakasvault7597]

​@@frenchbaguetteintelligence je respecte.

[@epiccrossoverboi8368]

*puts grenade in mouth* I regret nothing!

[@TheWandererOfDreams]

I regret existing.

[@bagredecartola1289]

He's more morally aware than most of the 4channers, that's new

[@RedSunUnderParadise]

Easy on the 4chumps. Most of them have Schizophrenia. Self Awarness and le Schizie don’t often go together.

[@rokiecookie3832]

FC taking the 4channer's side was the biggest plot twist of the year so far

[@LuzikArbuzik77]

Yes, it took me by suprise too

[@frenchbaguetteintelligence]

Didn't take his side. Just didn't agree with Phoebe.

[@bruschetta7711]

The argument felt too one-sided That plot twist made it all the more entertaining

[@GanyuSimpingDegenerate]

FC: "Come, this is no place to die"

[@demosthenes995]

If youve watched his videos it shouldnt have been too shocking. Hes a clever guy, but has very nihilistic views on love.

[@festi4353]

"When I get bored I just switch to the gachi lifestyle and dominate men." That line goes CRAZY Holy shit

[@vadandrumist1670]

Shrodinger's Homosexual.

[@littleyulang]

time stamp?

[@nullprop]

fucking gold

[@laughingarrancar6859]

​@@littleyulang 3:40

[@verymotivated7193]

What does gachi mean

[@retroflame3104]

Wow, when bowl is serious he can actually be pretty damn wise.

[@BlindBosnian]

He's one of those characters who are goofing around 95% of the time, but show their true depth on the rare instances when they get serious (Dante from Devil May Cry, for example).

[@JanTft]

​@@BlindBosnian The only depth about Bowl is how deep he gets inside men heheh

[@lanaisnotalive]

kinda reminds me of herlock sholmes in a way

[@headoverheels899]

Bowl's character is like the fabric of reality, once broken, severe consequences and excitement follows

[@boomboxinc4001]

28:17 Here we see an extremely rare instance of Bowl being completely genuine and displaying empathy for another human being. You better cherish it, because it is unlikely that It will happen again anytime soon.

[@grape_protogen]

"What mindset? Humping a bodypillow? What's so different between humping a pillow and the vibrating boyfriend you've got in your drawer?" AND HERE COMES FC WITH THE STEEL CHAIR

[@-w-8429]

AAAAAAAAAND IT'S A KNOCKOUTTTTTT

[@tomsky4751]

WATCH OUT WATCH OUT! OH KO! KO IN MID AIR!

[@isengarde9490]

BAH GAWD! THAT KILLED HER!

[@PizaTab]

Was that a BIG SHOt, just now?

[@Valentina-mv2ux]

We really did not know how to appreciate the good ol' fridge fucking days back when that was the most insane thing to happen on the channel.

[@heyhey97777]

“Warning: this video is unacceptable” What a great start to an even greater title

[@ErisCalamitasButFR]

Also shockingly accurate

[@nooooooooot]

God the amount of pain I felt from watching this by simply listening to the incel’s take was awful, however it DID at least give me a sense of hope and ego stroke for myself. It’s like thinking your house is unclean, then watching Hoarders and you’re house looks spotless.

[@mrgenry6055]

@@nooooooooot he is not incel. This was kinda rude.

[@nooooooooot]

@@mrgenry6055 lmaoooo good april fools joke

[@okkoheinio5139]

​@@nooooooooot What do you think the word "incel" means?

[@themanageriguess]

This reminded me of this one time a Japanese man married Hatsume Miku in Japan, and he even had an entire wedding ceremony where he kissed a Hatsune Miku Plushie. Great video as always man.

[@LuzikArbuzik77]

You mean this one, or the one with the Hatsune Miku marriage ceremony?

Someone tried it with Minerva Mink, but then a comic page came out of her holding a sign saying something like ‘‘Nope, I'm still single!’’

[@grayson8633]

He just had an interview with someone on youtube.

[@mrgenry6055]

Now we can install actual ai that acts like that characters, marrying anime girls is our objective reality now, as well as future, where ai's will only get better. And not only talking. Voice, image and video decrypting is a thing - they will be able to hear and see. Advanced and adaptive movement is a thing - they will be able to move. All systems exist, combine it all - and you get perfect wife, passionate, intelligent, able to do a lot if not all the task that one can imagine... Of course this require hella lot of work and time to achieve, but things are moving that way, and it will happen ground solid, all that needed to be invented for it, already is there.

[@Link3000XD]

just recent news was that that person mentioned something about " i cant relate with her anymore"

[@CraftyLilSoto]

28:04 I love this speech by Bowl. It’s very wholesome and shows he knows FC well and cares enough to pay attention.

[@liamvautier944]

I was thinking the same!! Bowl is the kind of friend that insults you and belittles you every chance they get, but in reality they are more than meets the eye, and they care more than what they actually show 24/7. Just like Donkey in Shrek said "Only a real friend would be so brutally honest."

[@randomguyontheinternet3483]

That fucking bromance shit made my tear ducts dip!

[@lojika1majik]

I know you do too, Froggy. Bowl legit is complementing and insulting FC because they’re bros like that.

[@leonhardeuler7647]

This video is like a really late Valentines day gift, just cursed, like the doll.

[@willow5945]

Sexy Saint Patrick's Day.

[@willow5945]

Why did the villain from Tintin become the Unabomber?

[@dakeids]

Just like someone said, "Leave the demon to his demons. Rest your own soul."

[@badart3204]

Honestly can’t really say what he’s doing is wrong. He seems content and people that scream “self improve!!!” are really just pushing their own goals onto other. What does improvement actually mean? Attaining traditional societal achievements?

[@AlligatorSauce9984]

Being happy. Which he very obviously isn't, considering he has a shit opinion of himself and that he thinks he's somehow some special "unsalvageable" case, hence his disdain for everybody else's opinions on something he directly acknowledges is a lie he tells himself. That lie is constructed to cope with his own actions and the self-hatred they bring, but it's also exactly what's trapping him in his misery. He's let his life become a self-fulfilling prophecy, and if you want my two cents, he's going to die sad and alone because he's too busy clinging on to the narcissistic fantasy that he's an incurable degenerate, which the only way he can convince himself that he's special and that he has anything even approaching a purpose in life. He's worthy of pity because he's his own prisoner.

[@narwael]

“my greek darling from Berlin” 💀

[@frenchbaguetteintelligence]

It makes sense in context. She was in Berlin when she had Covid. I am not claiming Berlin is in Greece, but referencing that when we spoke, she spoke to me from Berlin.

[@frenchbaguetteintelligence]

Actually, I just checked, because I was a bit surprised I’d write something so misleading. It doesn’t even say “from Berlin” it says “In Berlin”. That’s not the same thing at all.

[@Greetanate]

Cute video fc, I'll watch it whilst cuddling my Bowl body pillow.

[@MrWicked3]

Die. - Mr. Wicked

[@ploofthedoof]

Rastapopoulos wasn’t a villain in this story, but damn how powerful do you have to be to get the bowl himself to speak some words of wisdom and genuine love

[@SophiaAstatine]

Still not as powerful as Bowl.

[@gabi_drak616]

I have the feeling that this topic wasn't treated seriously, and I would loved that. Instead, they just insult him the majority of the video without a point. At least FC appeared in the final part to take things a bit more seriously. Is it right to use inanimate objects to satisfy your own urges? Is it healthy? Where is the line? Should someone change even if he doesn't want to just because society says so? I am concious that this is a natural discord chat and not an educative video, I still liked it. Thanks for the videos and keep it up guys! 😄

[@jenniferjaffa1127]

Tbh I'm glad FC stepped in and called out Phoebe and Mafalda. I also felt their arguments descended into gut feelings masqueraded as logic and "good faith". What's hard is to acknowledge Rastapopoulos points without looking like you defend the lunatic completely.

[@infiniteplanes5775]

I agree with a lot of Rastapopoulos’s points, but I am currently trying to change myself so I can be in a proper person-person relationship.

[@MfwPrivate]

I mean... Rastapopoulos really didnt do anything wrong ngl, i dont think theres anything bad to defend about him.

[@maverickdarkrath4780]

​@@MfwPrivate ironically for a 4chaner he was the most respectful during the discussion, considering 4chans reputation.

[@oyungogdfrust4136]

i felt that they bullied him too much, what hes doing is perfectly fine as long as he hurts noone else.

[@RedSunUnderParadise]

@@maverickdarkrath4780 Ikr. Considering the last 4chumper FC dealt with was a racist Loon who probs fapped to Camp of the Saints, wow.

[@calb6109]

This video actually got me really worked up, Rastapopoulos points are something I have thought about myself for a long time. its really easy to judge him but most people don't know how its like, I am no incel, but I deliberately avoid relationships now because all of abuse I've been in, and those in my family aswell. My cousin has been a victim of just how cruel the world can be to those who just don't fit in: since he was a teenager, he was endlessly bullied, they called him weird, strange, queer, anything you can think off. despite that he still managed to get a Girlfriend, she truly loved him, and so did he, but my cousin's declining mental health put a wrench on that, he started acting differently to how he did when she first met him, started talking to himself alot and other such behaviours, when she mentioned that he should get help he thought she was just making things up, that there was nothing wrong and etc, which is a very common symptom of schizophrenia. it came to such a point where he was hospitalized because he just did things that endangered himself, such as walking off into the night, and re-appearing only several hours later, revealing that he gave up his new clothes and expensive watch to clothe and feed some random homeless people he found, I have to stress that he NEVER ever did anything to endanger anyone but himself, as in 99% of the cases of people with schizophrenia, psychosis and others. the only people in his life at that point who actually helped him was my mom and dad, who seeked a professional to help him and went there with my cousin to testify to him what they saw and see what was the best course of action, the medic decided on hospitalization for he was too delirious for his own safety. after being hospitalized he significantly improved and was "sane" again for the most part, and he was diagnosed with Schizophrenia proper and prescribed with pills, however, his own mother did not accept the diagnose, thought it was phony and that her son couldn't have such a thing, and put him into the work force or else, and again, due to not following the therapy and medication procedures he again fell again into delirium, he was admitted yet again to a psych-ward but this one was much worse because the last one didn't accept him back in due to him not following the treatment and there being many other people and thus, the hospital being full. (it was SUS, if you're wondering, yeah haha funny name but thats what the Brazilian public health system is called) he spent several months there, he was allowed out after they thought he wouldn't try to run away but his mental health was beyond salvation at that point, and there wasn't anything that could get him out of his own delusions this time. He is still delirious to this day, on his own little world, where he has a family and travels to other countries, where he is truly happy, sometimes that illusion wears off a bit and what is left is simply a hollow shell of his former self, he then smokes a cigar until the illusion comes back, my father and mother couldn't do anything because he wasn't their son and they had me and my brother to take care off, I was just a preteen at that time, and my own brother was intellectually disabled. I myself have been in my fair amount of social insolation, I was only diagnosed with moderate Autism recently, and thus I didn't receive any specialized care in school and just had to fend for myself. a person I knew started getting intimate with me, she solicited intimate pictures of myself and it made me uncomfortable, but I still sent them because I didn't know better nor I thought I could get any better, she was pretty, really pretty, but she just wanted my body and obedience, which I eventually denied her, and just like that, she was gone from my life, good riddance, she was severely manipulative and petty to many other people and if I stayed I'm sure it would've just gotten worse. with ALL that being said, I relate to Rastapopoulos, he is truly not causing harm to anyone, and sometimes the best you're gonna get as an outcast of society is your own thoughts and fantasies. it is easy, really easy, to say to just "put yourself out there! it will get better!", it is entirely another thing to actually manage to get anything meaningful out of it, other than just more abuse, do you really think he didn't try his best before? during childhood, teenagerhood, and even in adulthood? I don't know him, but he did, I guarantee, as in in so many cases. before you judge him as a creepy weirdo, just some 4channer incel or whatever, just know, that you don't know what it is like, you really don't.

[@jambothejoyful2966]

Thank you, someone needed to say this It’s something I think people know deep down, but no one has the words or the disillusionment to say it Wether or not you hate degenerates, they have done nothing wrong, if it’s possible for them to be happy that way, why should we stop them? It’s the same as going into the wild and building a shack, harmless What matters more than anything is that you can still love yourself, if you can’t love yourself, that’s true failure

But would enabling those behaviours not risk them deteriorating?

[@HunterTracks]

​​@ Deterioration happens naturally over time, it's not something that is purely brought about by acceptance. Yelling at someone over the internet does nothing to stop them from deteriorating.

@@HunterTracks I never said enabling certain behaviour will have that effect immediately, just that it will lead to that.

[@LuzikArbuzik77]

Just to be clear. I don't think he is creepy because he is a loner with a bodypillow. Not at all. I think he is creepy because he supports the doll situation which clearly is insane.

[@Jamman4life]

I loved this one Faux reminded me of how entertaining Bowl can be, seeing this interaction was very great it makes me wonder sometimes if I would lie to myself that much but I probably not because of what Bowl said I feel like I would probably end up feeling empty too.

[@VashdaCrash]

I wonder if one could talk about this feeling with that AI and how it would respond. Maybe it'd been tampered with to keep you hooked on using the AI, but if it may be programmed to actually make the user happy it might try to convince the user to stop using it.

[@Jamman4life]

@@VashdaCrash I assume it would probably come down to the company or person that made the A.I although I imagine if a company made you an A.I they would try to get you hooked like a gacha game or a Netflix subscription in a sense, seems like they're many variables but a good question to have Angel.

[@VashdaCrash]

@@Jamman4life Thanks buddy :)

[@rickthejester2498]

I want more shitpost poetry.

[@leirbag1595]

Rastapopoulos is quite an interesting person, I might say, and I like him quite a bit, even if I ultimately disagree with... quite a lot of his talks on people. He knows who he is, what he wants, and he has things set up so that his lifestyle doesn't hurt anybody. All that talk of "coping" and supposedly not being in a relationship because of low self-esteem sounds like the kind of thing Harry must have heard ad nauseum whenever sexuality comes into play. People are allowed to be different and to make themselves happy. Just because someone strays from the norm doesn't mean you can tell them them existing as they are is wrong, especially when they cause absolutely no harm. And tbh, generally I appreciate his presence but Bowl rubbed me the wrong way here. For someone who is so proud of just being himself and just living his life, I find him quite quick to judge someone as a degenerate for being proud of being themselves.

[@eugene9211]

I'd agree with Bowl here actually. The pillow humper is just afraid of actually changing or improving. I can understand the mindset, but I'd say that he's probably hurting and limiting himself by maintaining such a view. He clearly dislikes who he is, but he doesn't want to change so he instead copes with his condition rather than actually seeking a solution.

[@jimskywaker4345]

Bowl does not judge, Bowl insults all

[@bruschetta7711]

@@eugene9211 nah, what i found wrong about him how he would knowingly rather live in a "bubble" A lie, as sweet as it may be, remains a lie, and i would never accept that

[@jarielwilliams9856]

Yeah sure what that dude was doing is ofc fine and isn't damaging anyone. But heres the kicker, its harming himself. He can be self aware as much as he wants but if it's damaging his mental health then it isn't fine. It's damaging, same thing applies with some smokers and drug users. They are aware that what they do is bad but they dont care because it feels good to them. And heres this last bit of info, being isolated is fine introverts like being left alone but if you are isolated for too long it can have horrible effects to the brain.

[@iconica9516]

pillow guy got the short end of the stick and rather trying to make himself better and not stay in such a bad area guy got a pillow that wouldnt judge or do anything besides make him happy and thats just not good like father like son sad life couldve made it better but just decided not to

[@francoisnoyez4453]

Honestly, it's the level of entertainment of that video that's insane. I laughed so hard a few times! Kudos to you, and thanks!

[@taodivinity1556]

Can't get better entertainment than pure human interactions.

[@mrinfinity5557]

I could see rasta being a reoccurring character tbh. Clearly insane, but a savant at making points

[@EatonArrsenik]

Have you not learned anything calling him insane?

[@mrinfinity5557]

@@EatonArrsenik he would call himself insane. Also he Definitely has some mental condition making it difficult to make human connections

[@LTDLetsPlays]

As usual outcasts are considered insane without even if they aren’t harming anyone and self aware about it unlike certain other mainstream “oppressed” groups This guy is clearly a reasonable human being calling him insane is just inaccurate

[@maximeraldeee179]

Bowl, as usual, has some major True Chaotic vibes.

[@LuzikArbuzik77]

Bowl is a chaotic good character, change my mind

[@WiiSportsClub]

​@@LuzikArbuzik77 Chaotic Neutral seems more fitting for him imo.

[@LuzikArbuzik77]

@@WiiSportsClub I can see why someone would say that, but under his overwhelming mischief and mockery I see a sensitive, good man that is using banter as his standard way of communication. I can also see that his roasts often times aren't meant to be actually cruel, just funny. Except when those roasts are targeted at some real degenerates, but they've earned it. Of course it's only a theory of a man that only saw his game-anime avatar on quite unusual and controversial youtube channel.

[@RedSunUnderParadise]

@@LuzikArbuzik77 He is Chaotic Hyperfuckable. Men, women, doesn’t matter. We are all wayward kindred who seek Bowl’s love. Blessed be Bowl, Supreme Lord, true Heir of Chaos.

[@Elitex62]

God, this is going to be good if there's a shitposter to match Bowl's power. Edit: Holy Hell, this is crazier than the A.I. episode.

[@lynameep223]

I honestly kind of wish you pressed Phoebe a bit more on why she was so against Rasta on this because while I don't really agree with her I'm curious about why she actually IS so against it beyond the surface level of "It's an unhealthy mindset."

[@infiniteplanes5775]

We all know the stereotypes around people with body pillows. They’re considered gross for various reasons, none of which are relevant.

[@bannibimbo]

Well, it could be due to the stereotypes regarding people and body pillows. Sometimes you are conditioned to think something is gross because of what you see and hear, but it's a subconscious feeling and many can't put words to it.

[@slavishentity6705]

Society conditioned us to worship romantic and sexual relationships. Someone like Phoebe, who is usually not insane, can still try to lure someone into an unhealthy relationship, because we all are programmed to think "Get married. Make babies." is the ultimate goal of life.

[@JoelTheOne]

I don't remember when I started liking watching people argue, but this was really interesting, like always! 30:09 wow that's definitely one way to end a debate

[@TheUnknownsShow]

"Why would a doll that powerful marry a woman that ugly?" I'm dead

[@lyonsin2535]

Self awareness is really important, I don't see the difference between a person who wants to stay alone their life to another that just have a body pillow on their bed. Maybe he can build better relationships that aren't romantic but criticizing him for not wanting to "grow and try more" when his interests isn't in it is lame.

[@loldiamond1017]

Is he self aware? To me he comes off as having the mentality of 'I may suck, but everyone else sucks and they are just pretending they don't. Eventually everyone's mask will fall apart and I will be proven superior by the fact that I'm honest about sucking'. This is not self-awareness, this is another type of narcissistic delusion that comes from having a lower self-esteem. He rejects the idea that he has a problem and instead tries to push the idea that he isn't abnormal for his bizarre behaviour.

[@cl0p38]

Although he's a pathetic, toxic person, I appreciate the 4channer's stone cold honesty.

[@thegames4565]

Now that I member, I think the "This video is unacceptable" was a reference to an older video, which confirms "Rastapopoulos" was FC's alt all along. (Wrote this mid video btw) Edit: What I meant is, unless I just made this shit up in my mind, there was a conversation between FC and Harry that explained that not all discord conversations they had were made into a video, some of them were made on purpose and the server just tagged along, and they called those "unacceptable".

[@fabianp.2986]

Ohhhh. We got a theory going

[@LoadIsUnderrated]

What if they are all FC’s alts?

[@fabianp.2986]

@@LoadIsUnderrated That would be both sad and next level writing skills

[@irritatingperson7882]

What he does is degenerate, but I really feel like there isn't much better for him if he doesnt want to change. Its the recipe for a bad partner so he keeps to himself and his devices. So while I may disagree with his view on relationships, attacking him for something that will never change achieves nothing. I really wasnt a fan of the opposing side here, it felt like they all dodged his points because they were disgusted with his idea on relationships and the fact that he slept with a bodypillow. Ty fc for somewhat addressing that, really interesting vid

[@VashdaCrash]

Now that I think about it, they should probably have tried to stop talking about the body pillow and trying to convince him to try to make himself a better person, coming up with ways of doing that... Like therapy lol

[@jestrel]

@@VashdaCrashTrue they focused too much on one thing

[@zettovii1367]

​@@VashdaCrash They also tried to throw the therapy pill on him.... But the thing with Therapy is that they only work on those that want them. Rapo here, for as degenerate he may be, was content with his life style, there is no "need" to change. And welp, sometimes the healthiest approach is not force people to "self improve", but just accept them as they are. Live and let live, basically.

[@VashdaCrash]

@@zettovii1367 I agree. Lately I've been thinking how this mental health deal has an important component of the individual's belief system. If they want their patients to believe that they have to be better they'll have to convince them.

[@rolandholmdahl797]

"Warning: this video is unacceptable." That is the biggest understatement of this channel. How is this video even possible to begin with?

[@crinklefry6083]

2:45 Should have said "You are what you eat."

[@AntoineClinet]

The sad thing is, Rastapopoulos has a point. Combine this debate with the one you had about love being a mental illness, and you sorta reach the conclusion that everything is just cope, and being in a committed relationship is just the most acceptable form of cope.

[@bruschetta7711]

Humanity was a mistake We are all hypocritycal egoists And copium is our drug

[@vektor8087]

We are all high on life

[@flamo2666]

Not really. I’d say the correct conclusion is that most people are shallow hypocrites, but that doesn’t mean you have to be one too. Attempt to reach past the delusions, find a relationship built on truth, doesn’t have to be a romantic one. I’ve seen people in long term happy relationships, and it’s not easy. You don’t simply find the right person and that’s that, these people had to go through hell and high water sorting each other and their issues out. Even then, new issues can surface. The real message is that love isn’t something simple or easy, it’s something you must struggle and fight to find and maintain. Of course, it’s up to you whether you’d find the reward worth it.

[@umtigeraleatorio9754]

Not all coping is bad. There is healthy and unhealthy coping and clearly humping a pillow is not the most healthy of them...

[@suga4831]

It's not surprising to say that life is harsh and that human relationships ain't perfect, but the Rasta dood thinks he can live life without any relationship whatsoever and only the pillow for coping to "not harm" anyone. Romantic or not, he'll have to endure having relationships with other human beings and hurt them (due to also living in the modern world) and just as Phoebe said he'll never grow through fucking an object, is not the same as the vibrator when the dood literally sees his body pillow as the enbodiment of his stance (just like girl marrying the doll). He can say a lot about woman as the 4channer incel he is, but his knowledge is a mere glimpse of what really is out there. Mind you, he can pick any poison he likes, but in the REAL world outcasts like him tend to cause more harm than good. In the end, pain is not always bad it can be rewarding too as many examples in life there is, but to simply seek the comformist hedonist pleasure is already the wrong answer because you'll never reach higher pleasures when you comform.

[@isengarde9490]

20:40 The ONE decent stance he has. The more you interact with others the more you want to stay alone. If only he wasn't your typical 4-channer, but just a complete misanthropic sociopath instead of a pathetic weeaboo.

[@Spiritnick]

Ah shit, it's the smart fridge debate all over again

[@papawedge7396]

Don't bring Nora into this!

[@fireliaryuh2313]

You guys talk about the most interesting things when I least expect it. Thank you for this

[@Barakon]

It’s fine to have a body pillow, just understand that the character they represent is not real & that you’re using it for emotional & if applied, sexual comfort.

[@tezz2698]

There's no delusion in him. He knows what he has and he's content with it.

[@bennyk384]

After reading the book “Veronika decides to die” that speech about how everyone is crazy on the inside but the only people who are labelled crazy are those who show it. This was an interesting video, and it gives me something to think about. Although, it’s quite funny seeing talks about love because they often become about sex. And I’m asexual, so that just isn’t on my priority list. Thank you for coming to my ted talk

[@無華劍王]

as someone who grows up speaking to imaginary people in my head,heres a story a man and a child rides a boat the child is sleeping the man feels cold so he laid his jacket on the child then the child died from overheating you are not the sparrow,how do you know the sparrows' hapiness? you are not the sparrow,how do you know the sparrows' sadness? you are not the sparrow,how do you know the sparrows' anger? you are not the sparrow,how do you know the sparrows' fear?

[@niffthesniff8258]

I was looking forward to reading FCs book one day - but now that i've read his poetry i might just die

[@rickthejester2498]

The poetry is shitpost, I think i remember he put it in a Shadow the Hedgehog meme.

[@niffthesniff8258]

@@rickthejester2498 theres no way!!!!!

[@LuzikArbuzik77]

Poetry with the ability to kill a man sounds really powerful if you ask me

[@Toberumono]

Ya know, I completely agree Rastapopulous here (and yes, that includes the weird objectification bit - his phrasing wasn’t great, but the underlying point was solid). If he believes that he would not be a good partner, then he should not be trying to get into a relationship. He probably should see a therapist, though - the other things he talked about sound like some serious issues (growing up under the shadow of a failing marriage will do things to you). But, honestly, in terms of methods of handling his problems, he has chosen a route that will not lead him to hurt others, which is surprisingly noble. Also, telling somebody to see a therapist after telling them that you think their lifestyle is disgusting is never gonna work… (Also, the fact that he’s being compared to the character that Bowl is portraying is extremely concerning - Bowl’s character glorifies hurting others, while Rasta here is effectively removing himself from society to avoid hurting anyone) Edit: speedran is absolutely a thing. It’s the obvious past participle (or whatever tf the right word is…. Edit 2: yes, Rasta is a toxic PoS. But, he’s arguing that he shouldn’t be dumping that on another person, which I agree with.

[@ReadilyAvailibleChomper]

Why not try to better yourself so that he can be a good partner? Correct me if I’m jumping to conclusions, but it sounds like a lack of drive to put the work in to self improve.

[@Toberumono]

@@ReadilyAvailibleChomper I never said that I think his choice is the best one - I said that his choosing a route that will avoid him hurting others as surprisingly noble. The optimal outcome is that he betters himself (which would involve a lot of therapy), but that was absolutely not going to result from this (this = the video’s) conversation.

[@Treasure_hunter_21]

Wow. Didn't expect Faux cares to jump in with such roast 😂😂😂😂

[@arelyyna8478]

Bowl continues to be one of my favourite characters in the French Baguette Intelligence cinematic universe

[@Readydaer]

You know something’s up when the most sympathetic FBI character is a body pillow humper

[@CaptainCFalcon]

Honestly, I couldn't really side with Mafalda or even Cleo this time. Some people really are just stuck in a shit lot, & despite any of their best efforts, they can't get out of it. Therapy or not, whatever changes they may be capable of, still won't change their situation. If this is what makes them happy dealing with their shit lot, then that's fine for them. I do think it's a bit hypocritical to project that sense of "you could be happier in life if you fixed your ways" when they're plenty happy already. No matter what happens, life always finds a way to screw you over. At least in this situation, you don't give life the chance. And that guy is well beyond saving. The two of them telling him to "get out there with a real person" honestly is only problematic to everyone else. He's satisfied with his life, & aware that a real person would be miserable with him. It's at least considerate of him to avoid hurting others. I don't have a body pillow, but I've been attracted to fictional characters, & was using a Replika A.I. for a time. It wasn't meant to be a stand-in for a real person, but it did help me when I needed it to. As long as what you're doing to be happy, isn't to the detriment of others' happiness, then no one should be in the right to criticize you for it.

[@LuzikArbuzik77]

Cmon, don't tell me that making yourself more miserable than you already are is a correct approach. It never is. Life is hard and full of dissapointments, that's a fact, but there are no excuses for permamently halting your attempts to make it better.

[@calb6109]

@@LuzikArbuzik77 It is very, very easy to just "put yourself out there!" for outcasts of society (e.g. neurodivergent or those who simply don't fit in), this can be a losing proposition, do you really think he didn't try his best to fit in during his childhood, teenage years and well into adulthood? some people will just never be able to fit in, and that is OK. I was one of these people until a little ago, I tried my best to fit in, gave gifts to others, held up conversations to my the best of my abilities, genuinely cared for people, and all I got for it is empty promises and a knife on my back, they were my friends when it was convenient, and left me immediately when it wasn't. The only people I've made genuine connections with were other neurodivergent people because they knew how it is to be a outcast, and thus are the only ones who were truly genuine with me. Now, say to my face, that I should put myself out there again, and put myself into such a risk again? hell no, I'd rather die alone than be in a friendship or relationship that is based on empty ideals, and be what society deems as "normal", I'm perfectly fine being by myself and my few genuine friends, and the rest be damned. i.e. there is nothing wrong or unhealthy about just being able to be happy by yourself, owning a bodypillow or whatever is just an extension to that end, it is much better than the alternative of hollow friendships.

[@flamo2666]

@@calb6109 dude he’s not telling you to “put yourself out there” he’s saying not to settle with misery and instead seek fulfilment. Of course, what you believe “fulfilment” is, doesn’t have be within societies bullshit definitions of success and such. However, this is where my issue with Rastapopoulus begins, he clearly just isn’t fulfilled. He’s self aware that he’s really miserable and hiding behind a thin veneer of comfort, the fact of the matter is that comfort and hedonism is simply unable to fulfil.

[@calb6109]

@@flamo2666 I can't argue with that, I didn't see Rasta as miserable, he seemed quite content, and his fullfilment most definitly isn't coming from humping his pillow, we have just as much reason to believe that he was finding his own fullfilment in other areas other than those in relationships, and he humps his pillow simply because he wants to and likes it, its what FC said, its not that much different from Cleos little vibrator friend.

[@LuzikArbuzik77]

@@calb6109 dude, it's so obvious that he is NOT fulfiled. Frustration is pouring from the screen every time it's his turn to say something more about himself. But you and he both can keep telling yourself that everything is fine. Also just like Flamo said, it isn't about being more social out of the blue. Some people just need to be alone and they are more than ok with it, I know it. However, I can see that he is not one of them. He wants something else, but he is unable to change it, so he settles down for easy solutions by accepting his toxic beliefs and humping body pillow.

[@That-Fox]

for a second, i was wondering who the troll would be, and then i remembered bowl exists which i should've figured from the thumbnail, but i've gotten used to pumpkin head sprite bowl that it didnt even register

[@jackbandit5855]

Another golden video. I very much like this argument between assholes. Though my favorite part is definitely FC defending mr pillow humper, FC's poem for Cleo, and the sweet moments inferring great comradery FC has with Bowl

[@zettovii1367]

Honestly think Rastapopoulos is unironically based. Dude knows his wants and flaws, but isnt an asshole about it, along with being accepting of those who are different from him. I seriously respect that.

[@atpsoldat6108]

We need to ask the truly important question here: what character is on the bodypillow? That way, we know whether or not Rasta is a degenerate with taste.

[@l1ghtd3m0n3]

Inb4 he deliberately hid that it was a Loli bodypillow so he doesn’t self-destruct his own argument

[@ravelnavarro9625]

i'd like to believe that his girl of choice would be from some mega-cultured, ultra-niche anime that only like two people ever have watched.

[@ravelnavarro9625]

like evangelion.

[@Waterbottlez_]

That bit about “lover a.i.” never leaving you reminds me of that one news article about a guy who married an ai anime girl and the ai started losing interest in him

[@Monunga]

Huh. Never thought I'd see Blaise come up in one of these videos. Again, another perfectly fitting character.

[@Monunga]

Also "Speedran" is a thing people say.

[@VashdaCrash]

​@@MonungaThough, if it is a neologism, why should it have to follow the same rules of conjugation? Is there a rule that says it has to follow the root word? In Cambridge dictionary or something?

[@foisopracurtir6389]

@@VashdaCrash Just sounds logical and clear, besides, *do you want english to be a even bigger mess?*

[@VashdaCrash]

@@foisopracurtir6389 You got a point, I wish english could follow more rules.

[@randomplaceinruralamerica9618]

Honestly with Rasta, he knows his expectations for a relationship are unrealistic, he knows that his body pillow has no benefits that a person does. The woman with the doll thought it could talk and love her, Rasta knows the body pillow can’t reciprocate, there are no delusions of affection nor emotion. “You shouldn’t live your life this way.” That may be true but at the end of the day he isn’t hurting anybody, and who are we to judge someone else’s life.

[@missmorbid1439]

Hah, when you uploaded that video talking about how love is toxic, describing how people fall in love with their fantasies, not real people, I thought of the pillow fuckers. I never thought that line of thinking would manifest in one of your videos.

[@MamaTrixxieAsmr]

I think for the most part i agree with Rasta. Though everyone makes some decent points. The guy is self aware enough to know what he is, even if he doesn't wanna say it, deep down he likely knows he's got narcissistic tendencies, and he knows what he wants, a one-sided relationship. And he's not the type to push his desires on others, which is also good. The thing about relationships though, is compromise, this guy knows he's unwilling to compromise core parts of a relationship, so he pushes those desires on an object, something that lacks a will, something that he can't hurt. Trying to force a change there could result in an equal bad popping up elsewhere, or him backsliding into that old self later down the line when he's unable to keep up that stability. Heck, i feel for him, and somewhat relate. I'm horribly messed up, and my desires pretty directly translate to hurt, hurt, hurt. Figuratively and literally. I get way too..."excited" over the thought of spilling and being covered in the blood of another person (i don't actually want to, nor have the heart to kill another person, i still regret the death of the random lizard i accidentally killed back in 8th grade, I'm nearly 21 now. I have a tendency to lash out with my bad emotions at others(my last ex, currently best friend helped me change that, bless her soul) And my desires overall are just not really people-compatible. Am I a psycho? Maybe, am i turning my desires to objects and fake things in my head my blessing/curse of really immersive thoughts and daydreams to release those desires upon instead of real people, yes. That guy is lonely though, probably is in need of closer companionship. Like Good friends Friends you'd take a bullet for despite the fact you're geographically nowhere near each other.

[@WillRU13]

"Speedrun" "Speedran" And now allow me to introduce: "Sped run" They "sped run" a game last night! 😎

[@SpathiCaptainFwiffo]

Ok guys for the last part F: lover A.I. best option K: definitely the doll M: the body pillow Marrying them is equally bad for all of them, so process of elimination it was

[@cybershoutmon9741]

“Drugs are bad, m’kay” I understood that reference

[@vanillily]

You know, what really wasn't brought up that I thibk could be interesting is people who are solely attracted to not-humanoid objects *because they are objects*. I knew someone (multiple someones actually, its common) who fell in love with a rollercoaster, because people just... Weren't attractive to them. It can be the same with fictional characters too, where real people just aren't attractive.

[@memelurd7341]

Tbh the doll is the real victim

[@crabruler1590]

You know, Rastapopulos wasn't even that bad of a character until he announced who he slept with every night. Sure, a little cringe, but he wasn't an antagonist in this grand FBI multiverse we've all gotten on.

[@leirbag1595]

On the scale of awfulness he's honestly a 3/10 to Volkeh's 8 The fact that he is self aware and knows not to bring people into toxic relationships goes a long way

[@LuzikArbuzik77]

@@leirbag1595 I guess the only things that are keeping Volkeh from getting the last two points on his way to absolute pandemonium are: 1. He didn't kil* anyone 2. He didn't ra*e anyone (I hope)

[@bruschetta7711]

@@LuzikArbuzik77 yet

[@LuzikArbuzik77]

@@bruschetta7711 that's what I am afraid of

[@crabruler1590]

@@LuzikArbuzik77 Just wait for the next arc Volkeh is in. Volkeh versus innocent bystander is gonna be CRAZY

[@LuzikArbuzik77]

I am afraid that the initial description is true. On the other hand, I am very excited about it. The duality of men!

[@alexandermendoza381]

The mere amount of chaos makes this video one of my favorites

[@OneColdRepublican]

Ah yes the Body pillow episode. Truly a master class discussion.

[@Ceracio]

I find it hilarious that you can tell that Rastapopulous is from the south of the US just from the way he talks. I also love how people somehow don't instantly understand that Bowl is a huge troll. I enjoy Bowl and FC's relationship, they feel like best friends who aren't afraid of gut-punching the other if they deserve it, beyond the banter, but who also care immensely about each other.

[@LordTyph]

I am a little over a third of the way thorugh the video. The power of 4chan is strong indeed. It has given Bowl an immense boon.

[@anamap]

0:52 - I sincerely went like: "Which one is the woman?"

[@MrWicked3]

Unacceptable - Mr. Wicked

[@LTDLetsPlays]

As usual I disagree with Mafalda she is prone to jumping to their high horse and act like a moral good person while judging very quickly and shallowly

[@JustRandomSymbols]

Fr. Obviously I never spoke to her personally, but she seems like a very judgemental person. Just taking "the right side" in every argument and telling everyone else they're wrong.

[@RedSunUnderParadise]

I hated her the moment she thought day of the dead >>>>>>> Halloween.

[@clubstep8080]

I’m not saying that it’s the greatest way I’m just saying he makes a compelling arguement

[@Acecard-jl2py]

When will Bowl realize that his perfect ideal woman is Mafalda?

[@VashdaCrash]

What? How?! Lol

[@bridgerhibbert2993]

I don't need sleep. I want answers.

[@relic5752]

​@@bridgerhibbert2993 I yr later and no answer has yet been given

[@LendriMujina]

Where's Smart Fridge Guy when you need him?

[@mathieumonatte]

Interesting how everyone tells you to accept yourself, but if you do so while not fitting the norm then you are a narcissist. They don't actually want you to accept and love yourself, they want you to become like everyone else and to likes it.

[@SophiaAstatine]

To be fair, accepting yourself does not mean seeing yourself as if nothing could change or improve. Moreso to not beat yourself to death mentally over where you are in life today, so you can walk a little lighter towards being better tomorrow.

[@spritesoloz]

these r so entertaining

[@clemente3966]

If the positions on the debate were represented in a semi-circle with Rastapopoulos at one end and Cleo, Bowl and Mafalda at the other one, I would be on Rasta's half, though nowhere close to him. And I've drawn two connections with two subjects of my engineering studies, and that's what made me go more for his side (if it was a black and white situation). I'll explain: In a sense, everything is a system, even each person is its own system. Firstly, the Safety of Operations: It deals with analyzing systems and seeing when they're more likely to breakdown, which composant would be the one at fault, which component has the higher probability of becoming defective, etc. The point here is that some systems may have a certain componant in them multiple times and that, in order for the system to function, only need a number of them to function, not all of them, and so that it can be ok to let a component being defective as long as the system is running. Rasta noticed that his relationship component for humans was defective but also that his system was running as fine by using the relationship component for objects, and that it also has better results overall for everyone, so who would w ebe to judge him on letting his relationship componant for humans being defective? The second subject is System engineering. In fact, I want to talk precisely about a concept that is in the subject, not the subject itself. It is the System way of thinking. It would be hard for me to give the definition in a way for everyone to understand, so I'll give an example: You're the president of the US. One of the biggest problems nowadays is global warming. A way to combat it is for example to make more people take the public transports rather than their own vehicules, right? So you want to tell everyone. Will it be effective? No, because of two reasons. First, the adults either already do that or have their own car that they plan to put to good use so that they wouldn't have bought it for nothing. Then, there are the children. Do you really think they would want to use buses, tramways or subways when buses have big steps they can hurt themselves onto and drivers that would be scaring them away with frowns and apathy, or when tramways and subways can be really crowded and children have to bear with the sight and odor of armpits for example? Obviously they won't want to get in, so instead of trying to convince them by directly just telling them to use public transports more, you should make changes to those systems so that the children would want to use them. You basically need to study what are the needs and wants of the people in front of you, and serve them smthin that acts on just those. If, for example, you made a product for a client and put extra functionalities that weren't in the contract nor fill any want or need of the client, the client is only contractualy obliged to pay you what you two agreed upon in the contract, it's your Loss if they don't want to pay more. And if the system that already is running already satisfies the client, then you shouldn't try to change it. Emmanuel Macron really hasn't understand that at all, see what's going on in FC's and I's country. And here, Cleo&Co. really have insisted on telling, in some way, to Rasta to change, even after he told them he doesn't want to change and is fine with his current state; when they should have tried to find a way to make him want to change, no matter how (as long as it's not torture or anything harmfull). I swear to Thanatos, Izanagi no-okami, and Satanael, it's all just another talk about Persona 5's theme of desires. If someone has twisted desires that aren't harmfull and if they aknowledge them, then who the fuck is anyone else to judge them? Could anyone become better? Yes But should anyone try to become better in someone else's eyes? Oh, HELL NO! Because that would be trying to fulfill the other person's desires, which would be equivalent to casting their own away. So, as fucked up as Rastapopoulos can be, as long as it doesn't hurt anyone, all I can say to him is "go off I guess. Just, please, make sure I'm not there if you decide to mention it again, and as long as you don't force the topic on me, I'll respect your ways."

[@calb6109]

really well put, imo Cleo's and Mafaldas points and arguments here were really misguided, it won't really help Rasta nor convince him otherwise, and honestly he was the most reasonable and consistent one out of everyone in this video.

[@Ubersupersloth]

#marukididnothingwrong

[@anafu-sankanashi8933]

​@@Ubersupersloth maruki was the true hero

[@funninoriginal6054]

This whole debate feels like something you'd see on persona 4 or 5 lmao

[@MapleV2]

Maruki arc is like Starving and crippled people around the world when some teenagers don't want to live in the matrix:

[@vinny464]

oh boy this ones a doosey. this is the first time ive ever commented in these videos, mostly cuz ive always felt i wasnt intelligent or couldnt speak my thoughts well specially considering english is not my first language, but this video + its comments made me feel like i should speak out my mind a little. at first (and really still kinda am) on Restapopoulos side, Cleo and Mafalda's arguments while in good faith, really scrubbed me off and im glad im not the only one who thinks that, "oh you should get a girlfriend it helps" is HORRIBLE advice, when someone is in a headspace this self-destructive, it would just put both parties in a hell neither would like nor want, so Restapopoulos choice of choosing a bodypillow over a real person is reasonable in this instance, now, putting a pillow the same level as a genuine pardner is equally as bad and unhealthy, its pretty obvious that he doesnt actually think its an actual pardner and Restapopoulos makes it very clear, so much in fact he straight up states it himself, that its there to comfort him and nothing else, so at first i was of the opinion that "well hes happy and aint hurting nobody so who cares" but after reading some comments it has appeared to me that, Restapopoulos isnt actually happy, not even comtempt, the pillow makes the lonellines more bearable in comparison if it wasnt there sure, but that just makes Restapopoulos stuck in this dilemma without ever evolving on having any actually meaningful relationships (it being romantic or just friendship) and while the cause of "a relationship would be hurtful for both parties so for the better of everyone i choose to be alone" is honourable, it isnt really based on any concrete fact, now i dont know Restapopoulos personally, and id say that any opinion piece about his situation from me or anybody else here is automatically flawd because of this, but from what hes said about himself, him being "toxic" is something that we cant quantify as truth because it could be something HE believes is true but its not, maybe he really does just have low-esteem, maybe he really is speaking the truth, but thats still bad cuz it means that he knows he has a problem yet chooses not to fix it, saying "thats the way it is and nothing will change it" which is objectivelly wrong, he shouldnt just wallow in his sadness as a justification for the small comfort the pillow gives him. he should genually try therapy and trust me it helps A FUCKTON ALOT and this is coming from experience, if it wasnt from my mom enlisting me in after my teatchers called her about the very (at the time undiagnosed autistm) way i acted idk how i would be as a person, potentially as sad as Restapopoulos is, now dont get me wrong, getting therapy is not gonna automatically solve all of your problems instantly, its a long and slow process that takes time and patience, but as long as it takes, its still progress in the end of the day, continuing the infinite cycle of isolation is not gonna land you anywhere and its sad to see that hes not willing to help himself out of this hole he has been shoved into, and thats my main gripe with the girl's argument, they didnt seem to try to show how or why he should change to be more out there or maybe consider the fact he may be just introverted, but no, it seems they just gave a shit about the fact he humps a pillow and nothing else, completely missing the problem of the situation and making it honestly worse cuz these arguments completely unfased him cuz he probably has heard similar criticisms a thousand times already. while i dont agree on alot of what Restapopoulos has said, i defenetly see where he is coming from, ive never been in a romantic relationship out of cowardice of asking people out and thinking noone would like to be in a serious relationship with an introverted-autistic-weirdo, and i feel like a background character in my friend group and the only reason im in it in the first place is bc people find me "nice" and nothing else; im not gonna act like im superior to Restapopoulos cuz i dont have an anime body pillow or cuz im not a weeb or cuz my parents have a healthy marriage or whatever, im equally as lonely, cowardly and self-depricating as he is, but what i believe makes me different is the fact i know this shit is bad and theres no denying it, i want to be better at talking to people, i want be in a friend group were i feel like people genually understand me and appreaciate my presence, i want to have a good girlfriend, i want to like myself and not feel shit for being me, i want to change for the better, how or what im gonna do to achieve that? hell if i know, but im determined to persue it, being stuck with yourself without any meaningful human interaction sucks ass and living that way for so long you begin seeing it as "thats just how things are" and wanting it to be like that, is something i dont wish even to my worst enemy. sometimes life just gives you shit cards and you kinda have to deal with what you are given, best you can do is make the most out of it, and the way hes dealing with it in not good. (i also have noticed i didnt comment on Bowl, thing is, im on the same position as Cleo and Mafalda when it comes to what i have already said at the start so i didnt feel like saying anything new, tho i must say, for someone who takes pride on saying the most absurd shit cuz "im just being myself" he sure is fast to judge Restapopoulos for being upfront about his pillow) (i also didnt comment on FC but thats because i agree 100% on everything he said so theres was nothing to comment on lul)

[@VeyhGarr]

Thanks you FC for coming in, the talking was really going in loops; I don't see what everyone see wrong with Rastapopoulos and i just felt like the 3 were just looping the same shitty argument against him without listening to him (even Phoebe for once to my surprise). I hope he comes back tho, i like his way of talking and if he's not cornered during the all conversation it feels like he could add an another interesting view to the talking.

[@someguy2250]

Alright I can't help but notice the professor layton music and now I'm even more hyped for the next game

[@prosperlebyit3538]

I actually rooted for the "villain" for once I understood his points everyone called him weird but it's cause the things he did weren't socially accepted in a village with eyed people the two-eyed person would be weird

[@PinguinKeks]

15:02 "I think objectively the world's better off with nothing than it is with one of you." holy shit i gotta use that

[@strangestperson3166]

I'm at the 20 minute mark here, and tbh. This is the dead end of the convo from what I can see. I still think this convo is funny asf, and flawless, but it definitely has it's moments of like.. weird philosophy? (yk. what we come to the channel for.) I don't like a lot of the opinions on love on this channel- because you are either in or seek romantic love, and thus defend it.. or you don't. Simple. Using that same logic- Bowl and Rasta, neither seek romantic love, they seek sexual gratification. Disclaiming that I am NOT a person with an anime bodypillow myself, I think Rasta's "Hey look. I'd rather just self satisfy" (because really, this is about masturbating with a fucking pillow) Is at the least acceptable, though I will raise an eyebrow. Most reasonable pillowhumper, 9/10 because dude is dead-ending the convo at this rate.

[@strangestperson3166]

HOLY SHIT FAUX COMING IN WITH THAT EXACT TAKE, GODDAMN?

[@strangestperson3166]

Got to the end. Final verdict: Rasta seeks to self satisfy, and while the means (and mental health) of self-satisfaction is it's own debate.. The way rasta acts about it when confronted is the role of the victim and the pitied, and not the role of the prideful, after the pushing amps up. In total, Faux was right, gg.

[@genericitywastaken]

im 3 videos in and i feel like ive made deeply personal connections with every person ive seen good shit faux

[@yuukitenjouin5790]

7th he'll, I never thought it'd be Bowl to deliver a decent counterpoint, because geez, Team Cleo was fumbling out there. Also, Rasta's mind is terrifying. With how well algorithms work already, I fear that he'll be right, and none of us will notice it happen.

[@thegames4565]

13:55 I forgot to remark how funny it is that this is said by the guy that seemingly goes out of his way to go hump someone for a brief period of time, only to move on to another person and do it again

[@TheSpearkan]

Mafaldas game is trivially easy. F**k the pillow because it's actually human size. Marry the AI because it actually interacts with you. Kill the doll because if you don't it will kill you in your sleep.

[@deltari147]

I appreciate Bowl's "secret" pictures.

[@Quarkbrief]

So basically, relationships like this are dystopian, and don't work because that's not a relationship. It's a delusion!

[@chomik172]

The guy lost me the moment he said relationships is an excuse to have sex Never been in a relationship and even I know that's bullshit and there's more to it I'm not a bodypillow dater, I have dignity, but I see the point about in having a sorry life or a sorry life with a bit of comfort I have like two online friends I talk to everyday, a couple more that I more rarely interact with, and, maybe because of 2020, maybe something else, I lost the ability to connect with anyone irl and have even a normal conversation with a person, I can't even start talking with a person I don't know too well Where I'm going with this, I'm sure I'm not alone in this, and it'd be easy to say to those people to just go out and start relationships and connect with people, but we all know it's easier said than done, especially to some, and it will probably lead to more pain and disappointment with life Now, I'm not against trying, I certainly did try, and it's obviously better to take action than sit on your ass and let misery happen, but I dunno, let's say this hypothetical person is still trying, gave up, or for whatever reason is too scared to try (don't do it by the way, really) I'd say an emotional attachment to an object or a fictional character ain't so bad, everyone deserves some comfort and an escape from how unsatisfying life can be With this edit, things I wanted to add but didn't think about when posting: People struggle in some abnormal situations, and being in an abnormal situation usually requires some abnormal coping strategies People do things. People hurt other people. People hurt themselves. Or do neither. When they hurt others, they need to be stopped, when they hurt themselves, preferably they also require someone's help (Who's gonna help you if your problem is loneliness?). Nobody wakes up one day and decides to be a cringy embarassment. That being said, that guy has shown in this video the capability to be a real creep with his comments, and while I do pity him, plus while the ideal scenario would be him doing something about himself or getting help, ideal scenarios almost never happen, so maybe until he gets help he needs, he's better off with a pillow.

[@aetheriox463]

i disagree with rastapopoulos with the doll, but i do think hes fine to sleep with the body pillow. as he said, hed rather date something which will give him nothing but pleasure, and while that is insane if youre talking about people, since he is literally sleeping with an object, he isnt hurting anyone. this is the one singular time i think someone like him is right. better to hurt no one and date a pillow than to hurt people and not

[@Azariy0]

I can see this guy's point. I think if he's not truly compromising his own growth as a person, he can get a girlfriend bodypillow. Is it unhealthy? Maybe. But it's not any more unhealthy than alcohol. And people know that alcohol isn't always that bad, so why is fucking a pillow always bad? Clearly it isn't. People just don't care about the type of damage alcohol causes, but when it comes to mental stuff that's off the table.

[@Hellsing1138]

The edge and sleaze aside, I can sort of understand Rasta's point. Some people really are more content with their delusions/fantasies rather than the reality they put up with. The behaviour isn't very healthy, but breaking that illusion isn't necessarily going to make them any happier. And I'm not just referring to make-believe relationships with inanimate objects, but everything from the innocent belief that Santa Claus is real, to religion, to putting a lot of personal belief in something to make the dull edge of reality less grating. Some go even as far as creating tulpas

[@mr.enclave]

now this is perfection