Friedman JJ vs Bogner Snorkler 50

[@eldoradoguitars6456]

Learn more about my Friedman-modded Marshall in this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gp-vhKd-oJuCbKs

[@SlimeyGuitarStrings]

I really appreciate you talking about the feel of the amps. Its such an important thing which you don't get from the sound alone.

[@dsmc80]

My friends and I were in my studio and during some fun testing, most of us couldn't really hear differences when toggling blindly on some of my digital (AXEIII & Kemper) stuff and tube amps through monitors and headphones. There were some small things that were discernable, though small enough that you couldn't hear in a mix. When we did a blind "feel" test while playing we could always figure out what were tube amps and what were digital. That feel is so large that it changed how we played and wrote for the song. That is why I still keep all of my wonderful tube amps. Props for mentioning this topic of feel.

[@MikeSadlerAU]

For ME; the Friedman. For me recording someone else, the Bogner. For me putting together a fleet of touring amps, for the rhythm player, the Bogner... the Friedman for the lead. I love the Friedman as an eclectic (hack) guitar player, but as an engineer, it'd be hard to walk by that 'wild and raw, but still contained in a narrow aperture' utility/capability of the Bogner

[@nicolasrivera5310]

Bogner has that perfect mix of a Marshall and Mesa MARK tone that is sooo good. The JBE sounds great, but I would take the Bogner any day. Thanks for the vid.

[@raf_smash]

Awesome comparison, Mike. Really thoughtfully done. These two would probably pair nicely together in a mix.

[@rodrigopolicarpo8377]

The video we’ve been waiting for!

[@chrisquinn9104]

Once you hear that the Man In the Box chords are the same as Kiss’ Calling Dr. Love, you can’t unhear it

[@juhalehtonen9000]

Both great songs!

[@Murphy_R9]

😅 I thought i was hearing that!

[@rangerdoc1029]

Dammit man

[@cimmeriakurt]

Great vid! I think the Bogner sounds kind of like a buzzy distortion plus MXR in a good way. Its that buzzyness that recalls Maiden/Rhoads. Well done!

[@dougleydorite]

couldn't have said it better

[@zutagroup]

Great comparison 🔥⭐️🔥

[@ThyFinalPain]

I like the Friedman Marshall better.

[@slappywag7210]

I’d like to see a comparison between the Friedman Plex and the Bogner snorkler. That’s what I’m torn between. Both amazing amps!

[@Murphy_R9]

BOGNER for me. Would be great to hear this BOGNER up against a JEL 50 next.

[@eldoradoguitars6456]

Would love to get my hands on a JEL50 at some point

[@Murphy_R9]

@@eldoradoguitars6456 IMHO it is friedmans best amp yet. It does the Jtm45, the Plexi,the 800, the 900 SLX

[@eldoradoguitars6456]

@@Murphy_R9 I used to have a JEL100. Very cool amp. I used to run it in 50w mode a lot. Hoping the JEL50 is similar.

[@sbrave2]

What is the gain on? Friedman sounds great as does Snorkelr. I think Snorkler has a bit more midrange as you mentioned

[@germanomosconi392]

oh my god

[@eldoradoguitars6456]

I’ve had a Helios 100, XTC Classic, and Pandora XTC. Never the Eclipse unfortunately.

[@germanomosconi392]

@@eldoradoguitars6456 Ahhhh pity. I got an Eclipse and was trying to figure out whether it's worth keeping once I'll have the Snorkler.

[@phoenixbt]

How do you like your Pandora? Can you get close to the Snorkler tones at all with it? Great demos btw, thanks for posting. Sounds killer!

[@eldoradoguitars6456]

@@phoenixbt Thanks! I didn't like the Pandora at all. I sold it very quickly. Not like the Snorkler at all. Much darker, thicker, and chewier. Hard to dial in. Pandora has less gain than the Snorler but more versatility.

[@juhalehtonen9000]

friedman sounds really good, snorkler sounds near perfect

[@tobaccosun]

Snorkler sounds plate fed TS, Friedman cathode follower with clippers.

[@geneparmesan8827]

Your definitely right , the jj is darker but that crispy mids on the snorkel sounds tight

[@geneparmesan8827]

They both sound so good

[@RobStrings]

I have a 50 watt Friedman modded 800 as well. It has the BE mod. The low sensitivity input is plugged and a thump pot installed on the back.Does yours have a thump knob in the back?

[@rangerdoc1029]

How would you compare the feel of the Bogner against a OG 5150? That's about the only high gain amp I have experience with. Compared to others, the sound just leaps off the strings. Most other amps I've played, I feel like I have to wrestle the tone out of it.

[@eldoradoguitars6456]

@@rangerdoc1029 Never played an OG 5150 😬

[@mrshredder0076]

going to call sweetwater in the new year - get the snorkler. after watching this video, I feel like the snorkeler and the Uber would be a great combo versus the snorkler and the JJ. I felt like the JJ was too Friedman polite. Whereas the Uber seems more brutal, and the snorkeler has a nicer/sweeter while still having a little grind for the lead tones. your thoughts?

[@geneparmesan8827]

Compare them with Les Paul ?

[@Burkhimself]

Man, that Snorkler really has me researching on getting one….

[@primaballerina84]

I imagine the bogner sounding really big and punchy with a bit darker thicker guitar. Kind of. Just something I imagine hearing inside my head that would sound very sweet 💪🏻🙏🏻🔮

[@eldoradoguitars6456]

@@primaballerina84 Maybe! I don’t have any Les Pauls at the moment (I’ve always been more of a Fender guy). Remember Jerry used this amp with a VERY bright guitar: his “Blue Dress” G&L that’s made of maple with an ebony fretboard and a Kahler trem. Bright!!

[@JulesDBN]

Snorkler sounds clearer to my ears and mpre percussive, with a more dynamic feel. I'd like to try iy along with my Helios Eclipse

[@geneparmesan8827]

Need to dial a little more bass and turn down the treble on the bogner

[@BradRocker]

That Snorkler is a standout.

[@geneparmesan8827]

Quick question, where and how did you order the snorkler? Bogner website ain’t working haven’t seen any on reverb

[@eldoradoguitars6456]

@@geneparmesan8827 call Sweetwater and ask for Bill Sears. Tell him you saw the video. He’ll hook you up.

[@SlimeyGuitarStrings]

I preordered it by talking to my rep at Sweetwater, but I would assume any bogner dealer can do a pre-order if you have an aversion to them or prefer a specific seller.

[@rodrigopolicarpo8377]

Snorkler sounds a little bit more grinding and more present to my ears. Maybe it would cut better in a band context and be less pleasant when playing solo?

[@eldoradoguitars6456]

Snorkler will definitely cut more in a band context. It also sits pretty nicely in a recording without a ton of EQ because of its lean low end and notched midrange. But you would definitely want a low pass filter on it around 6k to tame the top end presence. I also would have lowered the presence a little if I had to do the EQ again for this video. Maybe 8.

[@troygriffen9200]

Would running both of them at the same time be the perfect amp?

[@eldoradoguitars6456]

Just double track one right and the other left imo

[@MrSpillify]

9 times out of 10 I preferred the Friedman. I’ve had similar results A/Bing a BE-100 Deluxe and a Helios 100: Tighter, punchier, and smoother on the former and more raw and nastier in the high mids (bordering on harsh with the gain turned down in B2) and spongier low end on the latter.

[@saltyassassin]

Bogner sounds more wide open. Great sounding amp! Both are great amps, but Bogner is the one.

[@eddievanhendrix7615]

Snorkler 50 sounds absolutely amazing, front forward in the mix. Jerry Cantrell early AIC aggressive rip your face off tone.

[@Piffty85]

Snorkler for me. So clear.

[@edwardgrassel872]

where can i get one. omg

[@eldoradoguitars6456]

@@edwardgrassel872 Call my man Bill Sears at Sweetwater

[@stephenchow5161]

vote forfriedman

[@MorGuitarz]

Bogner sounds more organic...with more clarity & depth

[@tomimpomeni4433]

Me like Friedman

[@doutorlh]

Snorkler all the way…

[@AmpliFIRE]

Snorkler FTW. Not even close to my ears.

[@geneparmesan8827]

Tune down to e flat

[@eldoradoguitars6456]

It is e flat

[@wrentcht]

I thought the Bogner sounded great with a slight edge to the Friedman ! The compressed sound of the Bogner may be for some ! I personally prefer the open sound of the Friedman amps , not to mention how much it responds to your personal touch ! Just my 2 cents , opinions, ya know ! Great job making this video ! Cheers 👍👊🫵

[@eldoradoguitars6456]

Thanks man! I love Friedman amps and that modded Marshall is my favorite amp of all time. Dave knows what's up!

[@joker6388]

JCM 800 is still the best.