From an Army SMU to Secretary of Defense | Chris Miller | Ep. 205

[@jetobey5656]

A fellow Hawkeye here; but standing alone, that matters not. Every lover of our homeland should watch this. I have so much respect for Mr. Miller.

[@jbalger_01]

I’ve said this often, but I mean it this time. This is one of the greatest episodes ever. Chris was such a great guest & wonderful storyteller! Top 3 guest for sure men!!

[@_Fire_Horse_]

33:06 barf

[@Mosey410]

I hope I’m not alone in stating that if I’m down for an hour and a half to two hours I’m definitely down for a four hour interview. There’s a lot of value in these interviews. Keep up the great work🍀✊

[@WinStoNs_Mith]

I love the long form interviews. Shawn Ryan got me hooked on them. I break the good ones down. But I have, sacrificed a couple of nights sleep on em.

[@mathewdaniels2640]

One of the best interviews from the TeamHouse.

[@LRRPFco52]

3rd Group was built from guys who had been booted off their Teams or couldn’t perform for whatever reasons, but didn’t screw up bad enough to lose SF MOS status and sent back to the regular Army. Lots of guys who had been sent to S3AIR or other Battalion duties not on ODAs became senior NCOs on the newly-formed ODAs, who then were supposed to raise up new Q-Course graduates. A lot of the guys who had enough experience prior from Infantry, Ranger Regiment, LRSC, LRSD, Recon Platoons, E-5 and E-6 Combat Engineers, good Combat Medics, and some good dudes from other Groups recognized that 3rd Group was a hot mess. It was openly discussed at the time. 9/11 changed 3rd Group dramatically for the better in most ways.

[@_Fire_Horse_]

Plz share more

[@DougThacker]

"I am sorry I talk too much!" Hell no sir that's what we love! Great job guys!

[@jaredchandler4491]

A great American and a great soldier-he has an excellent rep in the community- bummer he couldn’t serve as SECDEF longer 🤙🏼🇺🇸 Top 3 episode so far !!

[@JC-rc6mw]

From Australia, one of your best yet. Was unaware of Mr Miller prior, thank you for spending the time to dive deep. Listening straight through, I couldn't stop listening, feel even four hours isn't enough. I appreciate Mr Miller's reasoning behind a long stomp with an unfamiliar team including the positioning of a vehicle bale out plan to work out the who's who in quick time, I am not a fan of the good ideas fairy that some officers must have on speed dial, from conception to wash up of the whole E&E evolution was a ballsy but awesome move, Mr Miller's identification and treatment of risk during the activity should be a lesson for the current leadership cohort, who are afraid of risk putting themselves before the team. I understand the importance of realism in training, now, if you had asked 20 years ago not so much; additionally having experienced both positive and negative leadership, I believe Mr Miller to be solid. Happy to help chip in for more cigars and whiskey to hear more of Mr Miller's story, there is more to be told for sure. Thanks again. Kindest regards, Jeremy

[@JC-rc6mw]

second time here in a day, is a big shift from 'I don't comment'. This episode is the reason why we need podcasts like The Team House. To lose the lessons spread across four hours and not document such an extraordinary story would be negligent to those who need to learn. To listen to someone take responsibility for their mistakes has become rare, hearing speak about and not hiding from instances of personality clashes causing friction in the workplace is refreshing, highlighting the importance of not trying not to be a dick and the networks we build early can and do make the difference in achieving future missions, military lack of sympathy disregarding the impact on the family and the courage to put family ahead of career, to complete a career in service to your country, and a bunch of cool jobs scattered throughout. To judge someone by who their boss might be without understanding the role or the sense of duty indoctrinated through years of service and immersion in military culture only confirms how broken we have become. Thank you Mr Miller for sharing, and guys keep banging in this important work.

[@skinnie2838]

"unprecedented crisis of January 6" lol @ this leftist propaganda ^ It was a meandering mostly. Barely registering as a 2 on a scale of 1-BLM/ANTIFA

[@bradchris2154]

“I have multiple Rantsssss at any given time”. How adorable was that jack. You’ve grown up so fast😢

[@valhallaace]

Chris is a great guy and my dad and him go way back. Had the pleasure of meeting and sharing a drink with him at my dad's retirement ceremony. One of the most laid back guys who is all about getting the work done. True American

[@robi1984]

What a solid dude and good American. Loved this episode! We need more men like Chris Miller.

[@ss67350]

Thank you to Chris Miller for taking the time to share his experiences and to The Team House for hosting him, you guys are documenting history. It's good to know that in America's time of need, there are such capable, morally sound individuals that will rise to meet any challenge.

[@noquarter5.56]

It was great to hear him give all that credit to the 3rd Infantry Division for taking Baghdad! Rock of the Marne

[@nightdaychannel828]

To think that the SECDEF planned a E&E training LIKE THAT was nuts (and funny). His narrative about the training was really funnny! Great story teller!

[@LRRPFco52]

I would be pissed if I was on that ODA if the Captain concocted some type of training like that, which could have caused an international incident where the team and host nation border guards could have been killed for no reason.

[@rwtbkk]

Great interview with Secy Miller, outstanding example of an SF officer - humble and unafraid , something sadly lacking at the top today.

[@BallZakc]

Got to meet him when he was secdef, couldn’t have be nicer and down to earth. Great guest

[@joesgotya9930]

Holy shit! This dude served in old school TFO.. This guy has to be the most bad ass SECDEV in American history 💯🇺🇸

[@kevinmorthorst521]

I still don’t quite understand what it is they do which is probably what they want.

[@joesgotya9930]

@@kevinmorthorst521Thier mission and role as an organization has changed alot over the decades but in the late 90s and GWOT years they focused on AFO -Advance Force Operations. Basically it’s about gathering intelligence and prepping logistics, assets, resources and contingencies for future JSOC missions. @1:01:07 For example, in Somalia when Black Hawk Down happened, before the big Task Force Ranger element even got into Somalia, Task Force Orange(ISA) and the CIA were on the ground covertly intercepting cellular and radio communications from Adids leadership, as well as recruiting local Somalis as human intelligence assets to collect information on Adids infrastructure.. They were prepping the battle space for the Task Force Ranger element and providing them the maximum amount of options for targeting Mohamed Farrah Adid. In the movie Black Hawk Down, that scene where the local Somali man parks his car in front of the target building,,, In real life that was a ISA/CIA recruited asset they paid and mentored to verify targets for the Task Force. kzbin.info/www/bejne/eXjUk5J8dseiqdk Source - “SEAL team 6” by Howard Wasdin.. Wasdin and his 3 other teammates worked with these small AFO teams, living out of safe houses with ISA and CIA operatives. The team house even interviewed former CIA Africa Division Darrel Blocker and SAD PMOO Bazel Baz , who were some of the CIA folks on the ground in Somalia 1993 that worked with the ISA in this time frame.. Back then the ISA were known as Centra Spike

[@kevinmorthorst521]

@@joesgotya9930Fascinating! Thank you for that explanation. One final question. Are they considered a Tier 1 unit? If so, what qualifies them as Tier 1?

[@joesgotya9930]

@@kevinmorthorst521. Back in the early Pre GWOT days they were what is known as a “SAP” - Special Access Program.. SAPs had their own unique classification level and command system which was at the highest levels of DOD in the 80s and 90s. Early 2000-01 into the GWOT they tied into JSOC as a tier 1 unit. Years down the road as the GWOT reached apex, the AFO role expanded across all the tier 1 Units, and it played a big part in the Ranger RRD being inoculated into JSOC as RRC. AFO basically became a role that everyone did, rather then a specific trade that only one organization focused on. The expansion of Al Qaeda at the scale they were at forced a lot of Units into roles they normally did not do,, (at least not in high frequency.) I have no clue what kind of stuff TF Orange is doing today. Sean Naylor speculated in his book that they possibly were absorbed into Delta Force and consolidated the 2 SMUs.. Who knows

[@joesgotya9930]

@@kevinmorthorst521 My bad, I didn’t read your question properly.. What makes a unit (Tier 1) has to do with the charter of the organization.. In the case of JSOC, it’s primary charter is aimed at hostage rescue and counterterrorism. This charter is generated by some the highest levels of funding/budget in the entire DOD and the title of (Tier 1) is basically a bracket of logistics, assets and resources dedicated to that charter… lol Everyone thinks (Tier 1) just means (top bad ass) but it’s actually more specific to funding and budget.

[@jumpmastermp21]

WTF, 4 hours show! Loved it! One of the best shows.

[@barbarataychert4910]

Glad you two kept going on the interview. You're right, we love this s----.

[@bemawr]

for sure!

[@favre231]

One of my favorite guys to listen to… just so wise and kind

[@jumpmastermp21]

WOW! Great show, Chris Miller is a great American.

[@Milwriter]

I've watched a ton of Team House videos...and agree with @john B that this is 100% in the top 5. Chris Miller is pretty much what we should ALWAYS want in a SecDef...a public servant who's been there done that. Problem is, I wonder if he served longer if he'd be chewed up by the system. The key there is full confidence of the president and solid top cover for the decisions he makes. Would he have gotten that? Not sure...but still not a "swamp dweller" which at this point is what we need. Well done guys.👍

[@TheAbyssGazedBack]

I could listen to secretary Miller talk shop for hours. What a engaging personality

[@Danrcharles]

Wow, what a great conversation boys!!! I hope there's more Chris miller's in the military and government. Hi Chris

[@scottmccoy8783]

Excellent interview! Thank you!!! AATW! PCI!

[@mhackling]

The interviewees and the candid discussions you get are just AMAZING! Smoking and joking with the former SECDEF just wow

[@dravani]

Probably one of your very best shows to date. Incredible guest. Worth every minute.

[@danhackett8857]

Great & candid interview! Much respect for Mr Miller!

[@no1reallycaresabout2]

Love how the environment makes it so Chris Miller talks like a real gosh dang person instead of spewing buzzwords at us

[@dukecraig2402]

You guy's need to get Mike Vickers on here to talk about Operation Cyclone, and get him to tell a bunch of Charlie Wilson and Gust Avrakotos stories, I'll bet he's got some good one's.

[@benyoung552]

I love long form interviews because I sometimes feel as though some of the shorter ones are rushed due to time on a clock. The stories are 100 times better when they aren’t constrained. I realize it’s the guests who might not have the time n not just you guys, but I have to say, the answers to questions n stories just come out much better. IMO. Great show as usual guys! Chris is a really cool guy with a great attitude n I really enjoyed this one quite a bit.

[@jackhammer915]

3:55:55 “I hope I didn’t let you down” D: “Nah it was MONEY” 😂😂

[@DannyB497]

Amazing I wish every show could be 4hrs

[@fainejohn]

I love that he said we “Leroy Jenkins” in there, lol!

[@davemorris9489]

Fantastic interview and outstanding American. We need more Chris Miller's in this world. What a great guy.

[@mrs8171]

Also, you had some heavy (pipe) hitters watching/listening in the "chat" today. If I am right, a Marine who served with CAG named Keith Oakes commented in the chat. He was in the recon community while I was at Lejeune and won the Best Ranger Competition as a GySgt. Must be a true stud to win that competition at that age. I believe the story goes that following that win, he ended up instructing at Ranger School and eventually making it to CAG. Loose summary here as I am not an authority on him whatsoever. Just someone I have heard of the in the past. Probably would be a great guest.

[@joesgotya9930]

I’m pretty sure Gunny Oaks was the 1st Marine to serve in CAG as a full fledged operator?

[@oldveteran7992]

Late to the party @ the TH, computer was out of commission. One of the best top episode on TH, really enjoyed Secretary Chris Miller and of course both of you guys, as always. Secretary Miller has walked the walk and tells it as it really happen, he certainly would have done a better job then “Let's go Brandon" current Secretary of Defense. I wish the more of the American public could hear this informative outstanding interview.

[@RikardoKroket]

Watching the show. Im big fan. Many regards from Serbia 100yo allay to USA

[@shane_rm1025]

Man this is a funny comment. I hope Serbians are seeing what the "benefits" of Russian alignment are versus western alignment.

[@RikardoKroket]

👍

[@ski2349]

Rhein mein afb Frankfurt Germany. Used to be where all troops flew in and out of. Had to stay at reception there till you got unit orders. Maybe two days or a week. Then drove to your base and did another two weeks learning German language and customs and got your drivers license before going to unit. Shared runway with German civilian airport

[@dukecraig2402]

Only E-4 and below, E-5's and above and all officer's got direct assignment orders and didn't have to sit around the 21st Replacement Batallion at Rhein Mein waiting for order's.

[@LRRPFco52]

"I didn’t know the donkeys were allowed to quit.” 😆😅🤣😂😂😂😂😂

[@tomwilson1006]

This needs to have way more views than it does!

[@arghh121]

Epic show, thanks!

[@farmbear1231]

U have the best podcast in national security he said

[@unregistered617]

Another great interview, ty

[@LibertysetsquareJack]

Curious about the cigars: looks like madurros, but what label? And thanks for having Mr. Miller on the show!

[@TheTeamHousePodcast]

Montecristo

[@LibertysetsquareJack]

@@TheTeamHousePodcast Thanks!

[@tomwilson1006]

@TheTeamHousePodcast Would be awesome to get Sec. Miller back on for another interview. Also PLEASE get Chris Whitcomb back on!

[@bhubesi9745]

Please create a latest podcast section on your channel - quite difficult sometimes to find your latest full episodes.

[@F3PIZZA]

You have to select the “live” tab/section of the main channel page. Most channels have the “uploads” tab/section and those are in chronological order unless the episode is live. ✌️

[@bhubesi9745]

@@F3PIZZA thanks that helps a lot. I do think though that the volume of short clips and other content waters down the main content of the channel a bit and some reorganization might help too. A second channel for shorts etc might be even better

[@brock45569]

Great podcast guys. Keep up the great work!👍

[@Nuhuh130]

Secretary Miller mentioned working with different units in Bosnia, I wonder if each of them had different objectives or tasks individually based on the unit they came from.

[@joesgotya9930]

He was with the Northern Virginia SMU aka ISA in Bosnia. They were providing signals and human intelligence efforts to rest of the JSOC hunter units.

[@Nuhuh130]

Can someone post the time stamp where he talked about RRD/RRC showing up. Just wanna hear it again lol

[@eugeneNOstoner]

Man, all I can say is, bravo 👏, great F-ing episode!

[@bemawr]

This was a great ep!

[@stephenrask536]

Wildly insightful. Crazy path to being an acting secdef.

[@disco4178]

Did he mention what the most complex military operation was when he was introducing Pence two years ago? I"m only a half hour in...

[@DoggyReal2]

This guy is my kind of guy. I wish he was my CO in the Army. He's hilarious.

[@_Fire_Horse_]

yes chris love this gen x 💯

[@AdAstraOnYafro]

I would work for Chris Miller in a heartbeat. Clowns like Milley are only in it for themselves. The concept of serving never enters his mind.

[@PushOnAlways]

My old bn cmdr...awesome guy.

[@RLB1833]

Thanks for staying late, sir!

[@andrewsignell9899]

Chris said there were only 3 people qualified to step into SecDef position. He never said how he was picked? If I heard him right he said he got a phone call and he said it’s on. I’m surprised he couldn’t see the writing on the wall of what was coming 1-6. Listening to him he seemed pretty insightful throughout his career. I’m not a conspiracy theorist but some things don’t make sense. The more I listen to people the more questions I have.

[@joebeach7759]

The only badge awarded less than the Sentinel badge is the Army Astronaut badge. There are only about 280ish badges issued now, and they can be revoked at any time, even after the service, if they bring any kind of dishonor on themselves. The initial training before their first walk averages a year.

[@cycleblack]

4 hours of great interview.

[@joebeach7759]

We used to count every round when we turned in our mags, until someone got smart and started weighing them. Sped everything up until the LT in charge of the arms room wanted everything back in the little plastic carriers and in the boxes. Why is it always an LT?

[@JesusChrist2000BC]

Chris is the exact opposite of Mark Milley. And guys like Milley are the reasons why right now recruiters cant pay to get people to join the Army.

[@jackal5359]

How so?

[@caseyprevost7034]

I read the comment before noticing your name. Lol

[@BadActor-]

Wokeism....

[@vitigaymer1053]

Dudes hilarious. Great interview

[@OttoMatieque]

did you cut out a bunch of the section with 'regret after invasion of Iraq'?

[@matthewsmith8736]

Y’all need to get out of NY.

[@courtneyturner5083]

You got a new sub based on the Miller interview. Thx.

[@karenarnold1400]

His experiences in war and politics appear valid however, dang it, his hubris is very disturbing. Much better reception if there was less arrogance and more humility.

[@courtneyturner5083]

Play it at 1.5 speed….this guy is hilarious! Wow…secdef too.

[@jamesm8397]

Holy shit this needs more views

[@nicktch4184]

Did Jack reference Hyperion?

[@johnkidd1226]

Special forces is like a designated hitter.

[@ronstallworth9421]

He kind of looks and sounds like Adam McKay.

[@natem1334]

This is a great show, and Team House is one of my favorite channels on youtube, but your sound quality is terrible. All three of you are so muffled I have trouble understanding what you're saying without turning up the volume until the midrange is painfully boomy. I see your mics aren't covered, so maybe it's a mixing problem?

[@arieltraasdahl-xh6ri]

You want me to correct this or what? Edit- Okay, it's accurate. I know this guy. This guy is the business.

[@jtimdodd]

Can you guys break out a clip of the AI conversation at 3:54:43 for a short clip? Would like to share

[@timfronimos459]

Best podcast of your channel so far. Would Chris be available to serve if Trump returns to office? Seems like a great guy.

[@drvonnostrum2671]

Trump is going to prison

[@stevenwalsh3795]

It also has a thing to who you report to. When you want to backspace it doesn't bring back the human meat that was a person.

[@jacain1234]

Brah, article 15 for being late?!?! Lmfao

[@mitchellhogan5142]

Secy Miller , could you comment on bio weapons in Ukraine and around the world?

[@F3PIZZA]

03:00:40 I’ve been anxiously waiting for this topic to grace The Team House. It’s just all damn confusing. Never took a look at any of it until 2017. I have a lot of free time on my hands and 60% of it for nearly 6 years has been spent on this “UFO/UAP” topic. The part of my brain that can organize my thoughts into written material is broken so this has largely been to educate myself and my close family, not for any reports or articles and certainly not for any money. I hate Twitter (just for the record). The topic is extraordinarily complex. The disinformation and misinformation within the topic is incredible. There are many questions that at present cannot be answered. Everyone needs to press their Congressional leaders (especially those on the HPSCI & SSCI) and put heat on them to be clear with the American People. If someone doesn’t know how to do this ask me, I can send you a template you can use. We are at the beginning of something. The problem for me is drawing the lines between what’s mis/dis and what’s ours. There is something going on, perhaps it’s just the past repeating, idk. DAVE AND JACK: Christopher K. Mellon would be a fantastic guest to out this in perspective.

[@skinnie2838]

"unprecedented crisis of January 6" lol @ this leftist propaganda ^ It was a meandering mostly. Barely registering as a 2 on a scale of 1-BLM/ANTIFA

[@jansobieski7470]

Hey... Secy Miller... when the Trumpster gets reelected will you serve again...? if requested of course...

[@robertwildes7550]

Dan Gable may have been the greatest US athlete ever.

[@connera93]

What smu was he in?

[@srsmedic8285]

From what little he said it sounds like the Defense intelligence activity

[@Nuhuh130]

ISA aka Task Force Orange based in Virginia

[@QTEPYE]

LOL! smoking, drinking adult beverages!

[@frankgarcia4712]

👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

[@natem1334]

Damn, I can't even whatch this, the sound is so fricking bad. Every time jack breathes into his mic it sound like my speakers are gonna blow out. You'd be better off interviewing him over zoom. Uncover your mics!

[@_Fire_Horse_]

Lmao flip😅

[@_Fire_Horse_]

Thats kind of the army...mom😅😊😢😂🎉

[@_Fire_Horse_]

49:57😅

[@skipmooney5732]

Yo need to t Closed cptns up for those of us that cased damage

[@dave_parke]

As somebody who watches all my tv with CC I understand and we’ll see what we need to do to make this happen.

[@TheTeamHousePodcast]

The CC populate after about 24 hours

[@_Fire_Horse_]

Can I interject plz homie on the right needs help

[@jackReed-k3d]

Go Hawks…

[@Tblom64]

Chris doesn't want to give Delta there props

[@joesgotya9930]

Delta wants props? Lol Delta just wants to be left alone

[@Tblom64]

Do you really believe Congress is this poorly guarded ?

[@arieltraasdahl-xh6ri]

Potato chip bags block signals in and out. I prefer Gardettos bags.

[@diamondspearradio926]

Get a better studio.

[@idreamofspace]

Traitor

[@barrett2022]

Wondering what it was like working under president Trump?