From GREAT! to Uhh...Wait - Max's Street Fighter V Character Visual Tier List

[@eyeguydojima7131]

"Eh, Laura looks okay" Kenny emerges from the Living Forest.

[@Redxan600]

You're the only one so far I've found who makes a funny about Kenny. And I absolutely love this joke... for now.

[@decepticonmecha]

As he should.

[@triburst]

Laura called in the Kenny DHC

[@multidinero]

I agreed with most of what Max was saying... until Laura. Laura is my kind of sprite!

[@yeahboyz9314]

Remember when laura have big ass teeth?

[@MessatsuGoshoryu02]

The real problem to me is not that some characters look way better than others, but that the character models look like they come from 5 different games

[@Kara-de5cz]

The thing is: you can see on Artstation that different 3D modeling studios had contracts to create the different characters and costumes. So basically that's not the same guys who did the characters of this game.

[@MessatsuGoshoryu02]

@@Kara-de5cz I see, and I guess that's either something that usually doesn't happen or Capcom intentionally left too much creative freedom to the artists, cause I don't feel that kind of clash from Soul Calibur or Tekken. If I saw Necalli, Zeku and Menat next to each other with no context I'd never guess they're from the same game

[@Kara-de5cz]

@@MessatsuGoshoryu02 I think you guys exaggerate a bit. You can tell, with the shaders, modeling and stuff, they all belong to SFV.

[@15OgLoc]

@@Kara-de5cz no

[@Kara-de5cz]

@@15OgLoc Simon Cowell ?

[@shihi51]

This version of sagat is far and away the best he's ever looked or animated. All of his kicks are real muay thai moves, his throws are real tactics, his idle stance is awesome, and his physicality is massive

[@TheRogueWolf]

Agreed. He moves and looks like the freakishly tall, imposing dude that he is.

[@nerdwarp112]

@@Feroce I also wish he had real sumo moves, because sumo wrestling is pretty cool.

[@creedolala6918]

I also like that he looks tall but still sort of fit and slender. As opposed to The Incredible Hulk / Abigail torso attached to chicken legs.

[@KaminariHouse]

@@nerdwarp112 But not as visually appealing or fun as what he does here, even when exaggerated for SFV.

[@CloudStrifeZX]

i agree completely with you , his physique for example is exactly how a muay thai fighter looks like

[@kevingriffith6011]

I'm kinda sad you never actually gave Dhalsim a segment there, because in my mind he absolutely wins "Most Improved Animation" for any Street Fighter character. Like, for a man made of rubber Dhalsim's animations in past Street Fighter games were stiff as all hell, but in SF5 he's going absolutely bananas with the stretching and I love it. Plus he just looks better with a beard, in my opinion... hell, a side-by-side of the character before and after would have made all the point you'd need!

[@redviolet5158]

never realized how great his animations are until just now, he really does look fantastic

[@madmonkey642]

I think he accidentally missed talking about him

[@quinnah5544]

I just mentally visualised what you were saying and never actually thought about this before. His design upgrade was actually immense.

[@jonham7213]

Well put

[@DavidKyokushin]

I have no idea who animated Menat, but they should get a raise. She's got so much sass it's hard to contain

[@paperluigi6132]

Plus, the cat theme they were going for really comes across with her animations.

[@blizz44]

@PjaxKorea Let me guess, you kept losing to Menat players

[@-emerald-1553]

Ken's smile and Guile's glare without glasses are both permanently burned into my retinas.

[@ServantBerserkerZero]

a

[@ricogwapo5100]

a

[@NecroCh]

a

[@NOLIMITS6661]

Though i gonna say it...that guile's air twist..with his hair looks soo weird.. i can t unseen it..

[@The300Player]

Gura pic Gura pic

[@Limit02]

I’m still astonished they NEVER fixed ken’s face even after nearly 5 years

[@Kara-de5cz]

I think that's just not something common to truly modify a 3D model after the release.

[@kreiden8972]

@@Kara-de5cz yea but they did change Cammy's face a bit after the beta

[@Kara-de5cz]

@@kreiden8972 that's was still before the official release.

[@mc_zittrer8793]

@@Kara-de5cz Look up how much Kolin has transformed from launch to her present look. Honestly I think Max was a little unfair to her, just because when she initially appeared in the story mode, her model was simply the same one shared by like 4 other Shadaloo dolls. Now she has like distinctly East European features.

[@cmthekilla]

@@Kara-de5cz Brah, they've made model changes even after public release. Either they didn't feel it was important or couldn't waste the resources to fix that face even his mother couldn't love.

[@big_azzy]

Finally a tier list with Juri at the top. I have waited for this day.

[@livingcorpse5664]

All hail the bad girl.

[@blazefire3808]

lol yep love Juri

[@qty201]

We Worship Thy Queen!! We are Men of Culture

[@blizz44]

Juri is the reason why I'm attracted to psychopaths

[@qty201]

@@blizz44 she's a beautiful woman with a heart of Destruction that please a man. Also she's gentle

[@RepublicOfUs]

Kenny calling in was the best thing.

[@dacosby47]

I honestly think that FANG has one of the most recognizable designs in this game. Even though he is a bit eccentric.

[@ContinuumEx]

They had a lot of potential with him. If his default was like his Halloween costume. It'd be a lot better.

[@nerdwarp112]

Yeah, I also personally would have put him a little higher on the list. I like weirdo characters like him.

[@ratedr7845]

Like eccentric is a bad thing

[@nikkis.2066]

I like FANG a lot, always love Poison based characters and FANG def has a good weird, creepy vibe to him. He is 100% a reference to Kung Fu Hustle kind of character. I dunno, I don't get the hate for him. Every time he Supers I laugh out loud.

[@null-wq5cp]

I don’t know if its because i had my fair share of playing sfv and against fang, but i feel like when i first think of new roster characters in sfv him and abigail pop up.

[@Chtud]

This is what Vega's SFV tier list would look like Judging characters only by their visuals..

[@scrublordesaka3678]

But for you it was Tuesday

[@Jenny_Myers]

This comment is delicious.

[@mc_zittrer8793]

@@Th3Sh1n1gam1 Yeah, if he doesn't have a special category for him to sit far above the rest, he'd basically just murder whomever is making the video and make someone else do it.

[@Rober_2403]

Not completely tho, Birdey ugly as fuck for example.

[@Goblin_Hands]

Vega has something against Sakura

[@TheAlemario2]

Max, pls do a theme tier list.

[@themc9778]

That would be lit

[@ultrax2936]

FACTS

[@prxblem4013]

Facts Dan new theme is perfect for his new and improved style

[@sheikhu1039]

RAAASHIIDOOO

[@themc9778]

@@sheikhu1039 oh that is a bop

[@Hpalhazred]

Menat, she should be a case study in every Animation Art school, like 2D Rock Howard and Lei Fei from VF 4/5.

[@ultrayoshi100]

Don't forget Kim's pants

[@SPACECOWBOY705]

Very true... And kims pants is definitely the pinnacle of animation.. both of you make great points

[@pastorofmuppets9346]

shes already studied by thousands of r34 artists

[@Hpalhazred]

@@ultrayoshi100 Kim's pants are not case study, they are beyond that.

[@xWagnerPlaguesx]

everyone talks about Kim's pants, but no one ever talks about Yuki's clothes from Neo Geo Battle Coliseum.

[@TheObicobiHD]

"Somebody must've reaaally hated Ken" *Couldn't agree more Max* 😭

[@flashyt4367]

I love Ken :|

[@GaionSputro]

Banana🤣👎🏻

[@metalheadrebellion]

It's kinda hilarious to me that he never even mentions Dhalsim once, he just puts him in the very top tier.

[@GuyWithAnAmazingHat]

Menat is definitely top tier SF design, her animations are also some of the best in all fighting games. And within the game itself, she has the best proportions, no exaggerated giant body parts and strange silhouettes.

[@scottyj8655]

I'd say G was the best.

[@Fry_BugHorseEnthusiast]

Putting Kolin in the same tier as Ed and Ken physically hurt me.

[@ProjectH1980]

No kidding. As a Kolin main she is definitely a Great Character design, both visually and animation wise. Her walking animations, her counters, Hail attacks, Air throw, Vanity steps and her Absolute Zero V-Trigger, displays a character that is both grounded and combat oriented blended with the style and grace of an olympic figure skater. Shocking thing is Max clearly forgot that Kolin was the only character that i know of that had a facial redesign that improved on her Story Mode model significantly. Since he likes to complain about Ken so much, as he should, yet Kolin is proof that Ken remaining like that was a Capcom choice that remained unchanged. The only weird thing about Kolin, that is a visual design feature shared across all characters in SF is her unusually large feet and hands that make her look strange in her swimsuit costume. Most SF Women are muscular but Kolin's Physique though more appealing than say Falk is still strange compared to Juri, Chun, Cammy and Mika. Her Nostalgia and Sporty Costumes showcase her thick muscular legs perfectly but as soon as you see her arms uncovered there is a slight disproportion in her torso and arms. I guess Max doesn't dig Russian Girls, well his loss.

[@yamato8000]

I think it is deserved honestly, she is just bland.

[@chefvideogame]

@@yamato8000 It makes sense, though. Her fighting style is a military art focused on quick takedowns, so she was going to be bland from the start. Too bad they didn't do all that much with the ice.

[@comradetyrone2298]

Her "On your knees!" counter is one of the most visually satisfying things in SFV. Like damn, landing that shit feels amazing.

[@ratedr7845]

@@ProjectH1980 Sakura got one just now

[@Jgt612]

Cody’s best animations come from the end of his normals. His low forward recovery animation even has him look down at the hand he braced with and wipe it off, all his recovery animations scream personality and flourish, you just never get to see them

[@itol2398]

Unfortunately, that makes it poor to bad. If the best part of your presentation is something I never see, then that means you've only shown me lower quality things. I agree, though. His flourishes are cool.

[@tjberba3783]

How about his forward throw while having his pipe out?🤔

[@PiccoloNamexio]

No shit, your taste's just gross af

[@PiccoloNamexio]

It looks cringy as f*ck, such as recovery in sakura's tatsu.

[@Jgt612]

@@itol2398 It’s clearly very subjective but it’s probably fair to say if you’re judging the characters purely on visuals then you should let their entire animations play out before you pass judgement

[@depwek6031]

A content creator by the name of "Sugarpunch" raised a good point about fang. They said fang was made to serve as the bad guy we all hate. I think he does that very well and his animation is great. The guy is just a slippery noodle who really likes the number 2.

[@gspandem1204]

Honestly, i fucking love F.A.N.G. He is (as Schaffrillas Productions described Disney Renaissance villains), deliciously malicious. He's evil, he's conniving, and he revels in that. And i love that.

[@Halcyon.gaming_]

I feel like fang is gonna be another character that won't reappear which makes me not as excited for sf6 lmao he my main and its gonna be hard to transition to a different character

[@DuelaDent52]

I used to like F.A.N.G. a lot until I saw the story mode, now I like him a bit less because of how much he stole the spotlight and deflated the tension.

[@Sperium3000]

I completely disagree with Max's aversion to silly looking characters. Not every design has to strive for "cool" to be a good design.

[@braystar8578]

I don't know why Birdie gets a pass but FANG and Abigail don't. They achieve their silly design goals flawlessly.

[@vallgron]

I know singing the praises of Codys design when he's just a guy in a tight suit you can see on a night out nothing interesting going on there like and he famously hated Rufus a very interesting goofy looking character

[@theflashfan3234]

@The Final Aeon Momentary i was livid when I saw that _he_ was Ken's final fight. Like, what the fuck, Capcom?

[@fightingmedialounge519]

Wouldn't say it an aversion to silly designs considering he rated birdie as a world warrior

[@lukejones7164]

@@vallgron Rufus just sucks as a design and character all around, and its not just because of the silliness (which isn't a bad thing in itself).

[@TheRealTHD]

"Stupid banana hair wearing Kennard!"

[@TheRogueWolf]

"Dammit, Kenneth."

[@MegaManXPoweredUp]

"What were they thinking!?"

[@jaybmt3821]

Lol, i think it's safe to assume all of us felt the same way for ken here. They better fix him in SF6

[@Dukfire]

@@jaybmt3821 I like what they were going for with the black and red but it needs a redesign

[@jaybmt3821]

@@Dukfire concept wise. I agree. And the fact that his moveset is way different than ryu's is a good thing. But they could've done much better.

[@funnergunners9029]

Would have liked to see what dudley or eagle looked like in sf5

[@thebloodedge284]

Or batsu,yin,yang but Rufus would look even fatter .

[@tiraelrosenburg345]

They rolled a lot of Dudley's tools into Balrog, so he would have been a little redundant. Looking forward to his return in 6, he's a fan favorite. I wouldn't want him to be changed much.

[@zxz2563]

Still mindblown as to why Balrog was chosen over Dudley.

[@thebloodedge284]

@@zxz2563 yeah it's really weird hope he comes in sf6

[@tiraelrosenburg345]

@@zxz2563 I mean he was one of the original World Warriors, can't blame them for that.

[@RobMccoy17]

From an animator's point of view, Abigal's animations are spectacular and should be near the top. Why? They're expressive, unique and they convey the character's personality perfectly.

[@Kara-de5cz]

I agree. That triggers so much when people say that visually he is garbage.

[@JosephFlores-yn4yi]

A lot of characters animation in sfv are like that tho

[@denjin_hado]

Love Abigail lmao, such a fun character

[@leithaziz2716]

I dont like Abigail, but he has a lot of expressive and strong animations. Didnt SugarPunch make a video on him? There was clearly stuff to cover.

[@Lynellf]

This.

[@theocan]

I think with Ken, the emphasis on his kicks means they've oriented his design around his legs, so they've given large, baggier trousers, while also giving him longer legs and a shorter torso. Also, with his arms up, it makes him look hunched over so it just makes the whole body look a little disproportionate. Also, god damn do I love the Juri design.. The moment I saw her, I was just like "that is absolutely my character!"

[@Goblin_Hands]

Probably, but what was the complicated thought process revolving placing a mop on his head?

[@theocan]

@@Goblin_Hands They wanted to reference Max while also shattering his expectations of a good Ken.. It's like creating a realistic effigy of someone.. Only to burn it in front of them.

[@alltheday725]

@@theocan I mean if you look at the art for Ken’s character story his hair looks very clean and cool imo it’s just that they weren’t able to transfer that same vision to the game itself

[@rubemevangelista3868]

tbh honest the hair wouldn't spoil the character visuals that much if his face looked at least decent. It's fucking ugly to look at, it would spoil the character even if the hair was good

[@MagillanicaLouM]

@@alltheday725 it's the same issue with Alex. Well kinda the opposite, his hair is supposed to be growing out and much more messy in 2d art but the modelers somehow missed the memo

[@Lexicon865]

Maybe it's just me but F.A.N.G. is way too low. I genuinely like his design and wacky animations tbh. I will admit that if model quality is taken into account then I guess yeah since his face is a bit weird, but otherwise he should at least be higher than Kage (I'd say Necalli too but Max is right about V-Trigger Necalli does look visually interesting)

[@kieferjoseph1766]

@Lex F.A.N.G is one of the worst Street Fighter Characters ever!

[@staticshock4239]

I just hate that Zangief doesn't move his head in his v trigger 1. That really gives him a toy like vibe.

[@creedolala6918]

Also his V skill where he just flexes and hits pass through him without effect, looks totally unnatural and toy like. Like a red plastic figurine stuck in a pose.

[@bertboxer1]

If you watch it slowed down, he does rotate it but it’s quick and returns to a neutral position like a ballerina or figure skater. Given that his super is named after a famous russian ballet troupe, i think this was intentional

[@Iffem]

the funny thing is, that's kinda how you're supposed to move your head when you spin (ice skaters do it)... they just exaggerated the lack of moving too much

[@kanasas2]

Fr he like a whole action figure lmao

[@mittensei]

Abigail came at a point where my exact thoughts were "This game could use less overly muscled characters" then we got the funny vroom vroom man.

[@kiljadaen]

Max: Laura looks okay Kenny: And I took that personally....

[@15OgLoc]

I'm so happy that Juri is on top, she just looks and plays fantastic.

[@eme4136]

Abigail is S tier and you know it

[@wolfspider2034]

Easily

[@Ueeeeeeehhhheeeeh]

"Cammy looks great" *hair vibrating*

[@meganinten0078]

Like your Devilman 1972 avatar.

[@danielmesri5741]

Glad someone said it

[@itstaeday]

Something about her mouth bothers me

[@masterofdoom5000]

Sakuras redesign is missing BLUE. They got the red, they got the white, but they skipped the blue. It's a nice strong colour that really popped in her normal outfit, wish they kept it for her redesign.

[@Ghost_Gaming1899]

They took Seth, a character I despise in SF4, and made him so damn cool. I honestly don’t know what it is but he’s just cool in SF5.

[@lavemochaves6500]

It's because *HE IS NOT DEFECTIVE!*

[@milla8632]

Like clockwork

[@siveon298]

@Taelin Cusic He's not trans he just doesn't care So if you had to put one of them modern identity labels, nonbinary or genderfluid

[@Owl_Coup_Productions]

@@siveon298 technically aren't all robots agender 🤔

[@lavemochaves6500]

@Taelin Cusic bro that's literally one of his quotes during a V-Trigger lmao

[@Martynde]

Some alternate costumes look so much better than the default that I never use the default. I would rate certain characters differently depending on whether I was using the default or my preferred costume for them. Nostalgia Birdie and Akuma rate higher for me than their default costumes.

[@Iffem]

@@RicochetForce iirc, Hot Ryu was GOING TO BE his default... but then they decided to be Cowardcom

[@user-tzzglsstle585e38]

@@Iffem huh

[@Iffem]

@@user-tzzglsstle585e38 yeah, they've rectified THAT mistake in 6, LOL

[@okapi_q]

I think Abigail and Kage animate really well and look cool. I don't even mind the horns, tbh

[@LocalChoker]

Yeah I disagree with him about kage big time.

[@johnoneil9188]

Capcom: here is our redesign for Ken Max: And I took that personally

[@blackmanta2527]

Its like they couldn't make up their mind on the art style of this game 🤣

[@Neogears1312]

The thing about Alex is the modeling. His design is actually really great when you just look at bengus’s art of him he looks arguably better than most of the cast. They really sold the idea of pre sf3 Alex with his uneven hair he’s clearly still growing out, and his build is overall slimmer and less defined than 3s Alex while still clearly being him. The modelers just did an absolutely terrible job capturing his art.

[@VideojugadorIrritado]

Waiting for the KoF Tier list (Kenny knows the shit btw)

[@sorrenspall]

Damn I really like FANGs design😂

[@baboner1046]

Seriously?

[@sorrenspall]

@@baboner1046 yep, I like how unique and odd he looks

[@eddD14]

He looks good but his desing contrast a lot with the rest of the cast.

[@Kara-de5cz]

@@baboner1046 I also do. For real. Not even kidding.

[@Kara-de5cz]

@@eddD14 I mean that's not impossible to have a 2m22 thin chinese dude.

[@Anthonystuff1]

idk who this flat looking purple guy is that he immediately put in bottom tier, but he looks funny. I personally like his looks

[@plindquist84]

Picks a "Cammy's bangs spazzing out" video to show how well animated Cammy is. 2:42

[@damiensuluai8351]

Eyyy, he used my tier list! I’m legit honored.

[@yannispirou101]

That's cool

[@kieferjoseph1766]

@DamienSuluai Your Tier List is Awesome!

[@damiensuluai8351]

@@kieferjoseph1766 Thanks!

[@kieferjoseph1766]

@@damiensuluai8351 No Problem Friend!

[@dougexists]

Love that the SF Devs looked at the reception of Seth and actually made an attempt to redo the character and make them sick. And it worked, Seth is super fun and does cool stuff.

[@danorq]

Dood rly? Fang has some of coolest animations. A good out of the box eccentric character

[@keithr.4645]

Yeah, thats what I thought too! Yes he's weird and annoying but he supposed to be and his visuals are consistent with that. I also feel that way about Abigail, you may not like him but his animations/looks really match his personality.

[@soapbiter36577]

@@keithr.4645 Most people just find abigail's design extremely unappealing.

[@TheHonorableRyu]

I think F.A.N.G. was *supposed* to have a sinister side (based on Shinigami/Japanese grim reaper, a ruthless assassin who murders people with poison) in addition to his goofy side, a mixture of both sides like Judge Doom or something, but they forgot to play up his sinister side in battles. A missed opportunity in my book.

[@isiah.mp4]

Capcom: *redesigns ken* Max: and I took that personally

[@FlashNeko417]

I expected Falke to get bottom tier because "boring lolz" is the meme with her... even though I like her a lot. Her movements are minimal and stiff but that jibes with her character so I feel it's a plus in her case. I'll grant, that would only move her up to "Good" at best because she has the same problem as Ed where every other costume she has is better than her default.

[@Serge-25]

Rashid, Menat and G are my 3 favorite characters in the game...They just move and look amazing.

[@lach10211]

Falke's character design is Amazing imo. I love all of her triangles.

[@RrowdyBeast]

Given how SF's always been a definite semi-realistic anime aesthetic, not sure why they went with mocap instead of animating by hand using reference. It definitely worked for their 2D stuff, and it works for Arc System Works; hope they consider it for SF6.

[@kevingriffith6011]

I think augmented motion capture can look fine (It's the technique they use for most of the cast for SF5 and it looks great on a lot of them), but hiccups happen, especially when characters don't really do anything dramatic to give the animator something to tear into... like most of the characters that have issues being "mocappy" are ones that don't really have out-there fighting styles, crazy moves or over-the-top personalities.

[@RrowdyBeast]

@@kevingriffith6011 I do agree, think it can look solid, but feel that it fits more for games like Tekken where it's a little more grounded in hand-to-hand combat, not flipping in the air throwing fireballs. SF, all 2D fighters, rely on frame data, so sometimes even toning down animation might benefit for the flow of the animation and even readability; it's part of why Max keeps mentioning some things even seemingly looking better in SF4 It's like, you sorta see it where they got more used to using it with Cody and his extra flourishes, Dan's got it going on, even Akira in the preview trailer looks like she's sorta swinging wild after she attacks, giving them all this limbs-akimbo feel instead of it looking like controlled movements or reactions. Dan benefits the most because he's comedic in nature, but Cody and Akira, Sakura, not-so-much Not saying the animation's bad, not at all. But~ feel like they're just using the mocap because it's available from Monster Hunter and Resident Evil production and they're relying on it a little too much. Not saying that they have to go that route, but I do think that what ASW is doing with their fighters is a good reference point for theory on how to pull off frame animation for a 2D fighter in a 3D format. Not to a T, don't even need to do the cel-shader route (though if they did on par with SF3 or CvSNK in 3D, holy shhh-IT boi), but take notes here and there because man it just feels right with what ASW is pulling off

[@kevingriffith6011]

@@RrowdyBeast Eh. I'm kinda 50/50 on that. You've got characters like Zeku, Menat, G and even Abigail that animate *beautifully* in SF5, and characters like Bison or Dhalsim never looked this good in 2d (more of a fault of too much loyalty to their SF2 animations IMO, but still)... and then you've got Falke or Cody that just kind of... are? Arcsys are knocking it out of the park, for sure, but I don't think SF5 is slacking off in the animation department, unless you count their hair and the faces of the season 1 characters. (Keyframed cloth and hair would make some of these characters *sing*)

[@RrowdyBeast]

@@kevingriffith6011 lol Yeah, the unchecked physics aren't helping; it's part of why I'm thinking that they might be just pressed for time and relying on automated or semi-automated solutions provided from access to the RE/MH studios, which I totally understand. And they're doing some great stuff, I specifically love watching Rashid, Zeku and Minat move Liker, it doesn't look bad at all, even some of the rougher executions at the least and get the point across well enough. Just feel like it could lean more to the keyframing with strong reference, or even aid from the mocap, but not relying on it as much as they currently seem to be and stylizing it to give less of an uncanny valley effect and more of a visual impact that rivals the likes of their later/CPS-3-based 2D fighters It's all good, I agree with you in that it can be a valuable tool, but, even though I feel like an ass saying it, hopefully SFV was more of a learning experience than a cementing of technique for future entries. It's getting there, but just not quite feeling it personally

[@SonnyBCreative]

Mixing both is best

[@RasenRendanX]

Im died when kenny called him lmao

[@bossgroudon]

As a juri player I appreciate this

[@bonticimong7100]

Falke's moves feels like a MK characters tbh

[@FunkyKarim93]

Bison is top tier animations and design wise. He looks intimidating as fuck and slick with his cape.

[@raheem7632]

Birdie karin and r. mika transitioned very well from 2D to 3D

[@MarioGMan25]

Actually I'm pretty sure it IS his face that makes Ken look so short. Like his face looks squished.

[@ggmaliki]

Ken is only 5'9 tho, he's the second shortest dude in the game after Oro.

[@monkakonga4305]

@@ggmaliki Ryu, Dan, and maybe Sean are the same heigth as ken though.

[@ggmaliki]

@@monkakonga4305 I just looked it up. Ryu, Ken, and Dhalsim are tied for the 3rd shortest male characters in the game, all sitting at 5'9. Eleven is 5'7 and Oro is 5'3. Still tho, Ken is one of the shortest dudes in the game, so of course he'll look short compared to dudes who average like 6'4.

[@chrisu.6649]

Street Fighter currently looks like action figures. Guilty Gear's been killing it for a while as far as visuals though.

[@Partinaire]

Kolin’s backwalk should at least get her Good tier…

[@creedolala6918]

I like the animations that are smooth and motion-captured for her. But that one combo that always ends with the arm breaker air throw looks so unnatural and video gamey to me. It drops her 1 entire tier by itself.

[@Partinaire]

@@creedolala6918 to be fair a lot of the first 3 seasons of characters that had air throws, a lot of those animations looked wonky. Remember how terrible Cammy's was?

[@creedolala6918]

@@Partinaire oh yeah. pretty much only guile's look great

[@MagillanicaLouM]

I'd give Lucia a plus for her attacks being loyal and upgrades to her final fight 3 animations at the same time, plus all the extra ending flourishes. Like when you kick a fireball with flipper shot, she smacks away the remaining embers on her shoe before returning to idle. Girl is just laid back, adorable and smooth all at once

[@postano9153]

i disagree i think abigail and fang are insanely well animated and perfectly reflect the characters personality without even knowing their backstory.

[@spinceiling7442]

I agree with fang but Abigail is hideous. I get that he’s supposed to be but I hate looking at him

[@Kara-de5cz]

@@spinceiling7442 like I said under an other comment, he doesn't have to be beautiful

[@Hell_Soll]

it's actualy interesting that not many DLC characters are in the S category, usualy as it goes, the DLC characters end up the most interestiing overall, but it's refreshing to see that even vanilla characters are all over the place, even in the S category

[@MrStath1986]

Isn't the S-tier almost half and half in terms of base game and DLC characters? I know Juri was basically day-one DLC, but still.

[@Hell_Soll]

you have a point there, but it's still an interesting display nontheless. especialy if you consider how many DLC characters are also on the opposite of the spectrum

[@ShahroozSmith]

At first I thought Max was just making a personal jab about Ken's design being so stubby and short like it was just all in Max's imagination or something. ...Then I saw the footage of Ken fighting Alex and I was like, "Woah, I had no idea Alex was this huge." He isn't... KEN'S JUST SHORT.

[@redcoffeemug7537]

Max's criteria for ranking these things, is all over the place. i think he somewhat confuses ''not liking a character ''with having ''bad design/visuals''.

[@nikkis.2066]

Max is def inconsistent on this and I get it, opinions and emotions and all get in the way of critical thinking but I feel some of these are too much based in not liking playing as or playing against these characters. Like FANG and Abigail animate really well and imo, FANG has a creepy look that sets him apart of the usual designs of characters.

[@redcoffeemug7537]

@@nikkis.2066 true that

[@TUCell-ps5mi]

Ngl Cody's development is so amazing, and the fact that he's finally cleaning up his act as mayor. *_But_* his visuals look so stiff, which I kinda wished they could fix in future instalments.

[@rrgg3912]

keep doing this visual tier lists, i really like it

[@zerobeat032]

ehhh why am I the only one who likes Abigail. I think I'm the exact opposite of most. I was disappointed when he was leaked and then super on board when he got revealed finally.

so mad that he didn't show the Ken photo edit. it was so perfect.

[@KnifeToMeetYou_]

I was about to be heavily disappointed if G didn't make the World Warrior Status but you got him there eventually and I appreciate that. *Also can we take a moment to appreciate how god-tier the Lucia Art that was chosen for the tier list?*

[@nightmarecomics1]

Hottest of hot takes...I LOVE Akuma's redesign

[@messi1010ramirez]

Off work and new max video. Couldn’t be any happier :)

[@AmericasMexican13]

Cody probably moves weird cause they wanted to emphasize him as a beat em up character

[@NinjaWorldWarrior16]

lol, I shouldn't have laughed that hard

[@valoricintake]

Everytime I see Necalli I just say "oh.... he's in this game, i forgot"

[@olianims]

Gill straight up looks like someone tried to make a Pepsi can as a custom character

[@josh0884]

F.A.N.G. is World Warrior tier, you can't change my mind

[@nintendork0943]

I love FANG and nobody can take that away from me

[@cannonballking7]

I am pained at the fact few people like F.A.N.G. as i love him. I like how much of a smarmy, and irritating pip-squeak he is, and especially the old-school Chinese henchman aesthetic. I love his game play with the poison and weird movement, how much of an odd ball he feels like, especially next to the more serious fighters. I would love to see him return as the head of shadaloo now without Bison a crumbling shell of its former self making him a king of nothing, trying to rebuild the organisation back up. There is just so much potential I feel is overlooked by most, and due to his lack of popularity will most likely get snuffed in the next games roster. The pain of maining weird, less serious characters like Duck King in FF/ KoF.

[@airsoftluke17]

He sucks

[@cannonballking7]

@@airsoftluke17 To each their own. May i ask what you dislike about him? Personality, design, combat wise.

[@InvictvsNox]

Awh, I really like Akuma's mane. Makes him appear more beastly and intimidating, which I love.

[@midsectionmark8956]

Yes definitely agreed!!

[@fordesponja]

We all know in our hearts Blanka-chan is in another plane of existence tier and that's enough.

[@danielclark653]

I had such high hopes for necali. Everything about necali screamed main villain especially from the first intro. Everything about him is so cool. The idea of a warrior who went mad from consuming the souls and power of the warriors he’s killed is so fucking cool and the fact that his V-trigger is just him becoming sane again is hype as fuck.

[@jherrenor]

Fang animates great even though his character is weird. I don't like the ultra thin head though. It's not necessary.

[@Kroogah81]

Kolin is super overlooked, I think her design and moves are outstanding.

[@TheDeclanRowe]

Max: "Laura's just okay." Kenny: "And I took that personally."

[@null-wq5cp]

It’s crazy how season 3 could’ve potentially been one of the best visually looking seasons. Sakura and Cody look off and move weird but have arguably the best redesigns in the game. Then you have great looking characters like G and Sagat that put so much work into them. And finally Blanka looking great and Falke just has so many questions, they really could’ve done so much.

[@mikethegringo8227]

I actually like Ken's outfit in the game. Looks like a much more layed back martial artist, even his stance gives off that vibe. I do agree that he look short and stuby and that his hair looks wonky.

[@PoboiDraws]

I felt so hurt when I saw Sakura’s placement

[@R0B0ninjaPirate]

I don't get the rating for Abigail. He's one of the most well animated characters in the entire game. He has tons of little animation flourishes, you could tell the animators were having a ton of fun with him. Is he a weird out there design? Sure, but if everything conformed to one standard type it would be boring.

[@jherrenor]

He has a lot of character in his moves but his design in general is bad. The supersize body with a tiny head looks so dumb as does some of his jab animations.

[@SG-jq5vt]

Watching you physically act out Cody’s moves killed me. It killed me dead.

[@lilarto]

Fang is legit probably my favorite character design visually and animation wise. I disagree 1000% with his placement. But to each his own. The worst visual design is undoubtedly Alex. The way he stands with his legs facing backwards and his upper body twisted forwards literally prevents me from being able to play with him lol it’s just too distracting and ugly. And it’s such a letdown because he looks so sick in third strike.

[@zatransis]

I support this. If I were to tweak it to be perfect for me, G and Honda would both drop 1 level and Ibuki would move up 1.

[@SeelkadoomandJokic00]

Hey wait a minute, YOU FORGOT ELEVEN!

[@SonnyBCreative]

I def would put Abigale at A. His animations are amazing.

[@PurpleFreezerPage]

I think Mika's voice adds a lot to her character. It's so scratchy cause she's always yelling - she's a tomboy, it's great. (If only she didn't have arm floaties on her chest for no reason except.. "appeal")

[@chipslight738]

My problem with SFV's design in general is that they kept the overly cartoonish/exaggerated character design and body type of Street Fighter 4 and tried to implement it in a more realistic looking artstyle and engine. Some characters in this game look fantastic indeed but some of them are really jarring or awkward due to the lack of that watercolor/drawing textures the models in SF4 had to the point that some texture and design choices make some characters look weirdly clay or plastic-like and it's not enjoyable to look out (Urien's suit is an exemple of that imo despite him looking great but the lighting from his projectiles and of some stages makes him look really granular to me).

[@MrStath1986]

This. Some characters you can tell they really put effort into making them work in this style, but the majority of them just don't suit it. I hope for SF6 they don't necessarily go more realistic - other games have cornered the market there - but they need less ridiculous proportions at the very least.

[@nik700]

I need A.B.I to react to this so badly

[@Xandersama]

As soon as he said "butt fucking ugly" my first thought was "Ken".

[@purifyws]

Karin's at least a great to me. Her redesign is better than her original imo. Re: Cammy's animations, that air throw lol

[@skurinski]

agreed, Karin needs to be bumped up, as well as Kolin

[@malimations]

this is my first time watching and THAT INTRO GOES HARD ASF!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@jpawlowski412]

How about a SFV character theme song tier list next?

[@zigzag6502]

G and Guiles SFV themes have to be in top tier

[@Thyyyyyyyyme]

Juri goes back to bottom tier ;-;

[@slinkyslink5161]

Alex is high on that list for me

[@Ramxenoc]

Legit was in anticipation of where you'd put Lucia. She's great.

[@MagillanicaLouM]

Yeah, she's laid back, cool as heck and the right amount of cute in some ending animations.

[@Ramxenoc]

@@MagillanicaLouM BIG facts. Was disappointed when he lowered her

[@MagillanicaLouM]

@@Ramxenoc and bonus points for all her moves that recreations of her final fight 3 moveset not just getting recreations but awesome improvements as well

[@niko35320]

Now do a tier list of their themes please !

[@gormass6183]

I can imagine Max singing "somebody that I used to know" to Ken