From Idea to Reality: Starting Your Own Cooperative Farm

[@bencowles2105]

I put up fruit orchard wind breaks around my market garden to protect my high tunnels. It really helps to slow down those winds.

[@Nellyontheland]

We use a green scaffolding mesh for our food plot UNTIL the hedge grows.

[@LadyBraveheart2007]

berry producing hedges and raised ponds help also.

[@Nellyontheland]

@@LadyBraveheart2007 Raised Ponds?

[@LadyBraveheart2007]

@@Nellyontheland would 3000 gallon tall - 3 to 4' holding tank make more sense?

[@LadyBraveheart2007]

@@Nellyontheland would a 3 foot to 4' tall 3000 gallon trough as sides to your garden make more sense

[@bencowles2105]

Learning how to store food is important and a good idea to learn how to do. I watch tim pool as well. I am feeding 200 families off my farm I don't have time to make videos or play video games. Its a full time job running a farm. Because I raise live stock as well as gardening I don't have time for a vacation. Good thing I love what I do. No need for a vacation. Loving your job makes that possible.

[@ilovemytribe]

I bet you sleep really well at night. Everytime I spend time working all day in nature I sleep like a baby...

[@bencowles2105]

@@ilovemytribe I do sleep well. But I would sleep better if I did not have to worry about the government constantly coming down on farmers. Some politicians tried to ban seed sales in our area and they tried to prohibit gardening inside city limits. My farm is not in the city but if the ban seed sale it will make getting seed to grow difficult that is why in am saving seed but they also want to make saving seed illegal too. Having a lot of people in my area that support my farm helps keep the wolves away. But it is a constant worry.

[@ilovemytribe]

@@bencowles2105 Wow! I had heard stuff like that about the seeds and gardening but was hoping it was all "conspiracy theories". I can't believe this is really happening. This is such a dark agenda going on with the government. Their trying to take away our right to breathe oxygen freely with the masks, and take away the right to grow food!!! Too much...

[@LadyBraveheart2007]

@@bencowles2105 - this happened in my area too. freakin' scary when the government thinks they have the right to ban your ability to feed yourself and stay alive... I clearly don't live in the land of the free...ROTFL.

[@LadyBraveheart2007]

@@ilovemytribe don't know where you are at...but where I am from. Clean, breathable air is a privilege, not a basic human right. I lost family, my home, my rv, and farm - after I dedicated 15 years of my life to my community and building this farm.cuz the toxic air (measuring 300% above the EPA's maximum measure of toxicity indicating it will clearly be lethal to a huge number of people!!!) had me coughing up blood and black crud daily. If I hadnt left I would be dead already.. Approximately 25% of the US population lives in these conditions which includes all of the land of California, Oregon, and Washington and parts of Idaho, Nevada and Arizona. Though folks as far away as New York have been effected. The smoke is full of flame retardent and plastics (microfiber lung liners are us!) and its been raining down, poisoning all the lands, water sources, livestock and growing foods in the region. Its suggested this ecological disaster is a magnitude of 400 times worse than the Chernobyl Nuclear Meltdown as it left a mere 1000 acres poisoned... these fires actually burned 5.8 MILLION acres just last fall and in the process spread toxic microfiber (plastic) everywhere...no end in sight, zero efforts to remediate and remove the poisons.

[@inspiredlife9315]

Thank you Curtis for all your videos. They are inspirational and have influenced me in starting a co-operative with my friends. We are also planning to start a market farm to provide healthy and fresh food to our local community. I am based in a town in Malaysia. And you are right in saying the techniques that you teach are applicable anywhere in the world.

[@grizzlysteve5728]

Hello Curtis, Just received your Urban Farmer "Growing food for profit on leased and borrowed land book, and I have to say that I am very please with it. This book is very easy to read and understand, with great information, Keep up the great work! Thanks Curtis Stone,

[@Nellyontheland]

Thank you for this. A little inspiration came my way watching this and possibly a new brother in arms. Thinking of taking up your offer.

[@mikecentex]

Would like to see some of the organizational rules, standards and responsibilities you’d ask co op farmers to commit to follow.. We have some nice farm land 2 hours from Austin, TX and would like to help facilitate a small group of real dedicated coop farmers. My experience so far has been that anyone interested has no experience farming, no skin to put in the game, needs a place to live onsite in their vehicle with pets and children, wants a stipend and isn’t keen on going out to market their surplus.produce. For a few farmers with experience and drive, but none of that other crap, we could set up a lease for several acres of land for cash, crop share or provide free tenant infrastructure needs. Nobody is even willing to drive out and take a look... from what I’ve seen most people’s values and virtue need to take a break and go inside when the sweat starts pouring in 95 degree heat at 11:00AM.

[@El_Croc]

Thank-you. Great that you mention the setup costs - so many are focussed on the land cost without considering just how much equipment/consumables will be needed. Wish I was in BC right now instead of UK. Reckon you need some trees as windscreens there.

[@Nellyontheland]

Hey. Another UK 🇬🇧 bod! I'm working in London and commute home to South Wales every week. Without giving too much away, where might you be?

[@El_Croc]

@@Nellyontheland South coast atm. There's a few networks of folks on telegram looking to join forces to get land sorted - some are looking into the OPD planning rules in Wales too.

[@Nellyontheland]

@@El_CrocThanks for the offer there, I nearly got into OPD a few years ago when it first came out, but after speaking with Tau and a few others there at Lammas, I decided it was going to be too "oppressive" for my liking. The guys behind the new OPD laws were the lucky ones as Lammas was set up on older laws now removed, but OPD as it turns out is very restricted for children wishing to take over later in life so...! We ended up just buying a field or two and moved on to it in the same way Maximus Ironthumper did and shows us on his channel. Email on the way, remove yours now though from above, I've screenshotted it 👍

[@Nellyontheland]

Also...I brought my BCS on interest free. I'm not affiliated to them but they are very good at what they do. I did it over two years (halfway through) with two attachments but wish I did five attachments instead 🙄 For the record I pay 250 a month. A co-op of five means £50 a month each. And I can do that in veg a month on my own. Throw in two goats (never single) and you have a pint each a day two. They do it every so often so get it before you move or you'll have no address for the check-up. Also, I'm looking to buying a Kubota too. These can also be sort on interest free. You'll need a cab lol.

[@tbc_2024]

So you talk about coop farming. Is it possible to have coop housing (even a few 6 plexes) on coop farms? especially with new housing density from Premier Eby.

[@TrackerRoo]

Depends on zoning in your area

[@kara_sergey_organic_farm]

I credit you, Curtis, our small but growing operation! I've been following you from 2014 and I have learned a lot! Thank you so much.

[@FreeThinker7]

Hey Curtis just want to say thank you for all the information. My family and I started our market farm and gaining customers and restaurants and have another farm selling for me doing 75/25 they get 25%, they sell at all farmers markets for me so I don't have to go myself and get more done on the farm. Will be in 2 farm stores and supply 2 restaurants.

[@FreeThinker7]

@Patrick McGraw I took that picture my friend..

[@FreeThinker7]

@Patrick McGraw yes really took that photo at our lake cottage, I believe they have a icon if you hover over your own picture and or search how to change your picture in search request..

[@Bemadabava]

I am glad I came across this friends and I have been talking about doing just this.

[@myramedicinewindkay813]

I've been telling my children not to live in cities for years-been seeing this long range situation thats about to come to fruition. Growing your own food and learning about wild plants is the only answer that makes sense.

[@karensue64]

I sent two of my friends your video with Ice Age farmer. By the time they went to click on it, it was down. That was incredibly valuable video that you took down a little too soon!

[@Nellyontheland]

Go to the iceage farmer's channel. It's there.

[@nurserachel559]

Great value! I joined and appreciate the discount, Curtis!

[@zechariahross1444]

Hey, I was wondering about the business side of all of this as far as taxes, LLC, healthcare and safety paperwork, do you need a health inspector to come out and look at your grow operation? How does all this work, what are you doing? I haven't found anyone on KZbin that addresses these issues. Thank you for your time!

[@guledsm]

Just joined your fans from Somalia. I am starting a cooperative farm in Garowe.

[@ptrain9020]

I had to smile when you started talking about Tim Pool. I didn't know you watch him too. I started watching him in the summer of 2020. We had to move back into the city recently from the country because we rented a home. Our plan is to be back in the country in a year or two and own a home. I am having to modify my growing this year due to our change in where we live, but we will make do.

[@shirelandfarm]

Love your videos. They're a great resource as my wife and I start our own homestead.

[@mikewagemann4129]

When things get tough, run to the country? I feed half my block with the food I grew in my yard in Vancouver, I had so much extra produce 1/2 went back into the ground as compost. While working a full time job, on a tiny budget. This year my neighbours asked if they could help, so we joined our yards so we can have some 50' beds.

[@aedressler]

That's great!

[@vineyardchickshomestead]

Love this idea! We have an acre of unused land on our first vineyard (SW Michigan) and a cabin we used to stay in. Do you think its enoufh land to start? Do you think it helps having the cabin for people to camp out in?

[@Tk1NE]

Consider mobile container vertical farms. One container can yield twice the acreage. See Kimbal Musk’s efforts in urban Brooklyn or a Japanese firm called Spread. Your acre can be a gold mine. Stay Blessed

[@jeshurunfarm]

Wish you where here... help build this farm on my yard. 4 hours a week! I probably do 70... Respect from Africa 🇿🇦

[@dbanks128]

Gonna have to set up gun turrets eventually as well, with a rotating guard

[@CraigMullins1]

What do you do when your certified organic and a person brings in something non certified and now that part of your field is decertified for years?

[@superkeen2242]

Thanks for sharing this cool to see the detection your headed

[@familyfoster3368]

Yes

[@mindbanx]

Great move Curtis - your last video was a little depressing and this response is most appreciated. Everyone will also greatly appreciate the discount, too! All the best from Halifax. Trying to put a community farm together as we speak. FYI: Also in the process of organizing an online "Atlantic Food Security Summit" to happen in a couple of months.

[@nw5189]

We have been looking for others to farm with us here south of you at Chelan Washington. We have 10 irrigated acres, pastures for sheep or cattle, gardens, berries tiny homes, everything! Have 12 x 24 foundations ready for other cooperative types to help, learn-build, super insulated tiny houses by a master builder of 45 years. Jobs and business opportunities are endless here. Hard work pays off!!

[@luzbautista9982]

I wish we live there¡ My wife and another couple are looking for someone like you learn about farming. Unfortunately, we live in NWA

[@jenniferpresnell9558]

Thanks for the info and for sharing your point of view! I live in Portland... I just drove by the main area where the protests have been the most dangerous. It’s not burning, there are no riots, plenty of graffiti, boarded up windows, and homeless folks, but it’s definitely NOT a war zone. Just so we are all clear.

[@tedstepanek6571]

Dude you should see about getting on his (Tim Pool) podcast and talking about food security. That would be a killer episode

[@offgridcurtisstone]

I'd love to, but I'm not flying into the US to do that. He only does in-person, which is great, but limiting for me at this time.

[@davidhick4303]

@@offgridcurtisstone Hi Curtis im curious if you have heard or seen the video from last year sometime where Alberta NDP Elizabeth Notley talks about how rural Alberta will be raising property taxes 200-600 percent because of oil revenues etc being lost. This seems to fall into agenda 2030 etc. What are you thoughts on how to remedy this potential future problem?

[@clutch8602]

Thank you so much. Not only is it a great idea, not just fear porn but a solution.

[@donnaduhamel6004]

Thank you so much for all your input and actions... great stuff.....

[@dirksdiaries6166]

Hay man this is inspiring in me, I'm going to look into this more. Thanks

[@Mansahx]

What was the name of the book you recommended on your live this past weekend ????? You mention 2 authors. Can’t find the live or book references. Thanks. 👍🏾

[@josharts8195]

Wooooow so great lecture dear

[@curtismorton195]

Hey Curtis! Great work :) I have a question: What number of the people in your cooperative are using this site for commercial production? Maybe I missed something, but it wasn't clear to me whether the food you are growing is providing an income source for the people in the group. I imagine this would look quite different from a food security/sustenance farm. Thanks!

[@sp33dracerx2]

Bro will you be saving this stream and uploading later???

[@fgs278]

120 is a great deal. im stoked to still be paying 50/yrs thanks Curtis

[@sareozturkk]

*Hello from Turkey*

[@gustavholst9085]

Thank you for this!

[@EgoShredder]

My worry is what if you locate outside of the cities and towns, and then later officials and police come from there to give you an ulimatum and then forcibly move you into the cities? Also anything that you have that eventually requires replacing, but requires sourcing from the other parallel society system and they demand ID before you can obtain anything, e.g. replacement batteries for your solar panel power harvesting gear?

[@Kelly-o9s5k]

is the 4 hours per week, 4 hours per person? or 4 hours total?

[@ZachSwena]

In our area land tends to go for $200/acre per year with irrigation...

[@theheritagehousesc]

Wow!

[@lorilugg6081]

How do you all store your storage crops? It has to be done carefully, doesn't it?

[@MAARCCA]

Hi...thanks for sharing videos, they are really encouraging. I would appreciate if you could share advice for starters... if there is an option to buy a land around 300 km from big city, would it be still profitable business comparing with land lease 60 km from the city?

[@kalebbillig3472]

IN Minnesota you can Buy a half acre of land for $2000 lol but it won’t be the premium growing soil like Hutchinson area... so long as you bring in compost you wouldn’t need that premium soil land

[@otrotland5377]

what do ya'll use as landscape fabric

[@mikepapa3196]

They pulled out all the fruit trees in the field next to your garden?

[@karenellis4488]

What soil amendments did you do if any?

[@vanwilder2137]

I'm relocating to the Okanagan Feb 1st and want to do something like this... are there any kind of local forums or networking resources for growers to find each other? PS. Thx for promo!

[@gingerkate1985]

How can i join your farm

[@farmerscropsolutions2827]

Nice

[@markmiller4503]

I would live to join a cooperative farm.

[@alexandriapeters5688]

Try to replicate, wherever you are. It doesn't have to be on a grand scale. Just share with you neighbors.

[@markmiller4503]

@@alexandriapeters5688 I agree we do that but, I want a place I can get fresh milk.

[@codygreyeyes1610]

Did he lease it from a Rezervation?

[@jkrzaczek]

Now I noticed the beanie.

[@lonesouthafricanbear2135]

Crushing!

[@jans1996]

Is it possible to set up beds like that if our land is not flat?

[@theyardfarm1232]

Farm on contour! Even more appealing visually IMHO

[@kwajrod]

What happened to the livestream video you had with Ice Age Farmer?

[@kentoloneci4396]

Exactly, was it taken down?

[@xXKillaBGXx]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/qHPahoSifdqmbas

[@TheGsquad697]

The live stream comments aren’t working on your live stream

[@Srindal4657]

Leased farmland. Why didnt i think of that? Collectively a rent like that (2000 a month i think you said) would be easy to pay provided you make the money from food you grow.

[@offgridcurtisstone]

$2000 a year.

[@Srindal4657]

@@offgridcurtisstone even cheaper!

[@russttu]

$2000 for half an acre lease is crazy expensive. If that includes water and utilities, maybe not atrocious. Would the land owner consider lease to own?

[@jamieherbert887]

Solid content "Tacos and Kisses" - lucy

[@travv88]

arrr

[@Alaytheia]

'Pocket watchers' be like: "Excellent" *Mr.Burns voice lol🤣

[@LtColDaddy71]

You know Curtis, in the States, anyone with food during SHTF will get it seized by the government and be told to get in line for daily rations just like everyone else.

[@offgridcurtisstone]

Is that a fact? So, no point then. Just sit and wait?

[@brotown1696]

We need animal products. What livestock is good to raise that doesn’t require a weekly feed bill or trip to the feed store? I know rabbits can eat most of their diet on grass but not much fat on those buggers. Also turkeys can eat a good part of their diet grass. What are the others?

[@nutequest]

Depends on your land size, pasture quality and what you’re growing. Sheep only require pasture and a mineral block if pasture is not high quality. To keep sheep your looking at roughly a half acre per animal if you’re not cell grazing or moving the animals regularly. I advise you move the sheep every six weeks for parasite protection. If your plan is to cell graze then the land per sheep is less, depending on pasture quality, if you get cold winters you’ll need to factor in hay growing for sheep as well. The land requirements per animal will decrease as the pasture improves. Cattle is 2 acres per animal as a feild system, less as cell grazing depending on pasture. They also only require a mineral sup or just salt if pasture is good. Hay needs to also be considered. Chickens are by far the easiest. Chicken tractors are easy to build, they do require a pellet or mineral grain feed though for better results.

[@masshole1373]

Hella ya, cant wait to see that Tim Pool does in West Virgina

[@patrickbateman783]

I AM AN ANARCHO COMMUNIST ~ Pim *It's complicated* Tool 2021

[@Johnrider1234]

We have 84 acres to share

[@myramedicinewindkay813]

Where are you?

[@earacheselbowsenoch6251]

Calmer minds must prevail...

[@Bigblue769]

Thanks Curtis! Who owns the bus? 😂

[@twinprimeable]

I'm selling one in NY near the NY VT MA border

[@LivadaBio]

👍 LIKE ! 👏 !!!

[@alexandriapeters5688]

What is with all the negative comments.

[@funkymunky]

Non-believers using deflection as an avoidance strategy.

[@fiendeng]

Grow pot all over that land! 🤣 you'll be a thousandare !!

[@TheBhannah]

weed is not even worth the price to process it let alone grow it !

[@simhd6844]

Wow

[@simhd6844]

Hello how are you

[@sminthian]

You're just talking about the happy positives of farming. There's a whole other dimension of cooperative farming that you're not talking about, fighting with each other. What are the contracts like on who is responsible for what? What happens if a deer comes and eats one plot, and they blame the owner for it? Who is responsible for security of the crops from stealing from other farmers and from random strangers?

[@LarsEelke]

In your live feed of yesterday you talked about land being expensive. I disagree completely. If you don't mind living far away from society it's no problem. I bought over 4000 acres for just under 400k, which i think is a bargain. I come from the Netherlands where 2 acres of farm land costs 70-80k, so...

[@offgridcurtisstone]

Totally. But it all depends on where you are right.

[@LarsEelke]

@@offgridcurtisstone getting out of the cities is the point right? :) But it varies, true

[@ronlabe5487]

4 hours a week... for 5 people? So 20 person hours?

[@offgridcurtisstone]

4 hours as in 4 hours.

[@iam.1353]

Did he say $2,000 a year to lease the land? That's cheap! Not sure how that works out. Lol

[@MeddlingDeer]

I was thinking the same! Less than $200 a month is a steal!

[@theta799]

KOLHOZ in Russian.

[@konanhonim3111]

Why do I have the feeling Curtis is about to sell me something???

[@offgridcurtisstone]

How else do you think I can afford to take the time to make all the free content that I do?

[@tabp8448]

We can't see the chat either on your current livestream. Won't let us chat!! Yt at its finest

[@BM-tk1cn]

@17:30 welp that explains the alt right bs that hes been espousing lately

[@twinprimeable]

you would watch tim pool. lol

[@offgridcurtisstone]

You would be butt hurt about that too wouldn't you ;)

[@twinprimeable]

@@offgridcurtisstone I do get butthurt about smart people like you buying nonsense from charlatans like Tim Pool who thrive by selling panic

[@offgridcurtisstone]

Same here, but I don't know that you're smart. It doesn't sound like it if you're saying dumb shit ;)

[@twinprimeable]

​That's fine, I don't really need to be smart to know that: Tim Pool constantly talks out of his ass not knowing what he's talking about. He lies about his positions. He often makes radically extreme predictions that are often wrong and the says he actually expected the outcome that happened. To be fair, it seems like most of his content is all stream of consciousness reactionism and it can't be easy to keep track of all the nonsense that pours out of his very round beanied head. Vaush is an liberal grifter posing as a leftist, but he had a pretty good takedown of TimPool. Jose's video essays are pretty damning as well.

[@twinprimeable]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/amjEZaZmi91ja6M Here's another example about him spending 25 minutes attacking a socialist magazine cover that he doesn't understand is mocking Joe Biden and the Dem establishment. I believe the term for this is that he "ate the onion"

[@omgThink4uRself]

I have land in Eastern NC if anyone wants to lease it hmu!

[@98Bafana]

What part of Eastern NC?

[@HolgerLovesMusic]

479k subs but the average views on your videos is unter 20k. Congrats? :D

[@offgridcurtisstone]

Ya, I don't post to KZbin much anymore.

[@dodgro8342]

so this is basically an American kolhoz. Collective farm. Stalin doesn´t seem like such a bloodthirsty idiot now, does he.

[@offgridcurtisstone]

Not at all. This is all voluntary. No coercion. Big difference if you're talking collectivism, which I am no friend of, you have no choice. Freedom is all about choice.

[@dodgro8342]

​@@offgridcurtisstone what you are engaging in IS collectivism. And that´s exactly what the agricultural producers were doing in the 20-30s in the USSR. Uniting in cooperatives. And it was also completely voluntary, there were people (an absolute minority) who wanted to preserve their allotment and stay out of kolhoz, edinolichniki (independents). It was not voluntary in case of kulaks, because they were village parasites exploiting cheap labour, pulling people in debt, selling bread at triple the price during hunger etc.The only difference between capitalist kolhozes and Soviet ones is that the latter ones weren´t slaves to large capital. You can go bankrupt any day if the purchising price on your produce is pushed down by big corporations (because of relative oversupply) and/or the price on raw materials is pushed up. Under socialism, whatever you produce over the amount you sell to the proletarian govt as part of a contract and over the amount you give to MTS (machine tractor stations) which provide you with the latest equipment, whatever you produce over that, you divide with other members of kolhoz according to labour contributed. And then you can sell that on the city market or into consumer cooperative or again to the govt. That´s a pretty strong economic motivation, isn´t it? There were kolhozes that were called "millionaires", they would build whole cities for themselves on those profits. With schools, stadiums, parks, libraries, etc. That´s how socialist kolhozes worked until the counter-revolutionary reforms of the 1950s-60s-70s. But you enjoy getting bankrupted by large capital. You´re already in a kolhoz, the only difference between you and Soviet agricultural producers was that they didn´t have a giant parasite apporiating the result of their labour. And you and other farmers round the world don´t really have a free choice. The choice is between bankruptsy and... creating a cooperative/kolhoz. Freedom is the recognition of necessity (c).

[@offgridcurtisstone]

Ok, so cooperation is collectivism. Ok bud.

[@dodgro8342]

@@offgridcurtisstone the means of production at your farm are in collective property, right? How is that not collectivism, bud? I don´t know which definition of collectivism you have in mind, probably some rubbish from "wikipedia". I mean the strictly economic term. Collective ownership of the means of production.

[@offgridcurtisstone]

@@dodgro8342 No. The property is not collectively owned. I never said anything about that anywhere. We actually lease this land.

[@wwg1wga24]

Careful, or you’ll find yourself in a commune.

[@earacheselbowsenoch6251]

I prefer the word "community" mom was a hippie on the late 60s and experienced the commune life... Lets say it didn't benefit the ones closest.. No lone wolf will make it for long.. It will take people with diverse skill sets. Hell Dr's & Dentist's a plus.... Ruptured appendix 😳

[@offgridcurtisstone]

Cooperating has nothing to do with communism or communes. That's all that ra ra Murica propaganda talking ;)

[@earacheselbowsenoch6251]

@@offgridcurtisstone Thanks for blazing a trail so that others will have a easier time navigating the terrain Curtis... I got your book...😂😂😂

[@wwg1wga24]

@@offgridcurtisstone Before the United States was first established, we were under land shares and communes. Oh sorry, they called them “colonies” at the time. Forgive me, don’t wanna get any of this American individualism on ya. How’s globalism in Canada workin for ya? What’s the status of those quarantine camps in every province?

[@offgridcurtisstone]

If you're trying to beat your chest about what country is better than the other, not playing it. You're just as screwed in the US under globalist shill Biden as we are under globalist shill Trudeau.

[@edmikula7187]

In my experience cooperatie farms usually show exactly why communism won't work. Very few survive the heat of August.

[@alexandriapeters5688]

It worked the the first Morman group in Utah, with the Great Salt Lake as their neighbor.

[@twinprimeable]

lol, wut?

[@offgridcurtisstone]

Not communism Ed. There is no coercion and nobody is getting a free ride here.

[@edmikula7187]

@@offgridcurtisstone Didn't sy it was communism, just why communismwon't work. When the weather gets miserable, the members suddenly get less cooperative, the few die hards get frustrated and everything goes to hell. Just my observations from the last time this was a thing.

[@offgridcurtisstone]

Alright, well, I guess that is your experience. Certainly hasn't been ours. All depends on the people you bring in.

[@rosstemple7617]

Sorry no we are not God nor becoming god. There’s no God but one. We are to be in His likeness

[@twinprimeable]

get a life

[@rosstemple7617]

@@twinprimeable I have one, and I’ll have it for eternity. It’s where you’ll spend it in eternity and with whom is the most important part.