Front Derailleur - Advanced Troubleshooting

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@silencerdood9107
@silencerdood9107 3 жыл бұрын
Like ParkTool is like a legend for giving these free
@legion7488
@legion7488 Жыл бұрын
No one else. That's who has videos more clear, concise and packed full of pro advise. Thank you for these.
@halicusnguyen8864
@halicusnguyen8864 5 жыл бұрын
You know the channel is good when you've watched all of the videos, despite not having a bike.
@JoseppeM
@JoseppeM 4 жыл бұрын
How you know when you need to go outside and buy a bike^
@hashslinginhasher
@hashslinginhasher 2 жыл бұрын
hey man i got multiple unused bikes in my back yard come thru
@victormagtangol8627
@victormagtangol8627 Жыл бұрын
@@hashslinginhasher where are you from🥹
@michaelmueller3228
@michaelmueller3228 Жыл бұрын
I think it is time for you to get a bike!!
@halicusnguyen8864
@halicusnguyen8864 Жыл бұрын
@@michaelmueller3228 :) i got one!
@johnjaume4529
@johnjaume4529 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the article. After struggling with front Derailleur Adjustment and consulting innumerable articles and KZbin videos I just about gave up until I discovered one additional factor in proper derailleur shifting, Crank Bolt Tension. While inspecting my bike, I noticed a very slight "play" and a new "sound" during a ride. I realized that the crank was a little loose. When I tightened the crank bolt, I realized it was way looser than the manufacturers torque specs. Once I tightened the crank bolt, it brought the outside chain ring a little closer in, enough to make a significant difference in the range of the derailleur. Hope this helps.
@marklouiston2442
@marklouiston2442 Жыл бұрын
A born teacher, he saved me from having to make a service appointment and all the attendant hassles that brings. I was able to fix my derailleur problems in less than 20 minutes.
@Toto-is8ci
@Toto-is8ci 4 жыл бұрын
Perfect. Found my front derailleur was bent. Bent it back with good success!
@michaelguerrera1463
@michaelguerrera1463 Жыл бұрын
Once again a detailed look at reasons why the shifting system can be maintained or adjusted or cable replacement. Also derailleur adjustment might be necessary. Not for those who aren't patient as this is an advanced tutorial as mentioned. Usually taking to a competent shop will be necessary. Nice video again!!!
@CosminBobosea
@CosminBobosea 6 жыл бұрын
So ... my story begins with a new bicycle for which I didn't manage to set it in a way to change correctly to the highest gear from the front derailer. After some searches on the net, I found your tutorial. Following your presentation I tried for more than 20 times... and nothing fixed my problem. Anyhow, I found the solution and I want it to share with you because it could be included in your future troubleshooting videos. For a new bike, anyone thinks that all pieces and parts are set up and right positioned. I put a lot of trust in guys from the store. Maybe I'm a stupid exception :) In my case, the right pedal arm was not well/full screwed. When the arm was well/full screwed, I realize that I move it with almost 1.5 mm. This distance was what was missing for the correct setup and from this cause, my front derailleur with all settings done didn't manage to change to the highest gear. Personal consideration You are the perfect combination between mechanical + engineer + teacher! This tutorial, from my point of view, is in the first place in top 3 "How to do it" in the world. I'm sorry for my non-academic English language. I'm not a native speaker.
@NeostinnnIN
@NeostinnnIN 6 жыл бұрын
I need a new bike. That's what I found out.
@kalebparker6876
@kalebparker6876 4 жыл бұрын
No
@maddoxtalker9844
@maddoxtalker9844 4 жыл бұрын
Ha yo same
@nolanbennett346
@nolanbennett346 4 жыл бұрын
Yep XD mongoose?
@davidleal7133
@davidleal7133 3 жыл бұрын
Perhaps a new bike mechanic
@mayankmynk4855
@mayankmynk4855 3 жыл бұрын
🤭🤣
@Gledii
@Gledii Жыл бұрын
im just missing one thing in these tutorials. how to start from scratch. i mean, it normally starts with "shifting to the lowest gear" or something like that. sometimes you cant do that becuase of the wrong indexing, cable tightness, barrel adjustment, etc. it would be great to have a tutorial like an instalation, everything from 0. just a thought
@Teknofobe
@Teknofobe 4 жыл бұрын
Gratitude. Lost front 3 gears, (pinch bolt failure) amongst other things. I can now attend to my rear derailleur. Getting 3 out of 7. Even after adjustment. Ur other post should be most helpful. 👍
@sunjiulu
@sunjiulu 4 жыл бұрын
I bought a new bicycle but found out it's rubbing the chain for some gear combinations, after watching your other two basic videos and a few hours of tuning, I found out that the large chain ring is not rotating on the same surface, there is 1-2mm in and out while rotating, not sure if it's wobbled chain ring or other things caused it to off the surface... but the 3'05'' of this video talks about the wobble chain ring which confirmed my difficulty of adjusting cable/H/L limit. thank you very much. learned a lot from your videos. the bike will be returned to store.
@FedEx331
@FedEx331 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much !!!! The front derailleur has been annoying me for ages, all sorted now 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
@dudeonbike800
@dudeonbike800 10 ай бұрын
Just buy modern mountain or gravel bike and be done with it! Ha, ha!
@adepew
@adepew 7 жыл бұрын
Awesome! All your videos are very clear and well explained through visuals. Thank you!
@robinferguson8911
@robinferguson8911 Жыл бұрын
So..... I watched the earlier video on how to adjust a front derailleur. That was super helpful and after loosing the clamp I was able to pivot the cage to bring it parallel to the chain ALMOST and reduce the rubbing of the chain against the cage. But I couldn't get it perfect and I'd concluded that I'd bent the cage when the bike fell over in our hallway. Then I watched this video and sure enough..... that's one of the problems identified here. Does this mean I'm now ADVANCED at front derailleur troubleshooting??? Well heck yeah!
@AriKona
@AriKona 3 жыл бұрын
After watching all the videos on "front derailleur", I was hoping this one was the answer. Believe it or not, it wasn't. It was my mistake not to have recorded what side of the screw the cable was supposed to go. I had threaded the cable on the opposite side of the clamp down point than I should have. Just that little change made it impossible to get the chain on to the largest ring. So, after I moved the cable over and made sure everything was in lubed and adjusted, I tried it. Just a little tweaking of the High/Low screws and now it is back to the way it was before I decided to change from grip shifters to trigger shifters. Bottom line, however, is: These are without question the best bicycle maintenance video presentations out there. (Which could be why I always go to Park Tools for my bicycle needs.) Thanks.
@AlexDoesStufff
@AlexDoesStufff 2 жыл бұрын
Because of this video, I've finally noticed that my derailer cage is bent. 2:00
@leonardjohnquillano3180
@leonardjohnquillano3180 4 жыл бұрын
This video helped me a lot, fixed my front derailleur with the help from this video.
@GSXRMVDUCRD
@GSXRMVDUCRD 5 жыл бұрын
Great! Addresses the problems that most video's don't. Also see his other video about front derailleur "Basic" adjustments when basic adjustment doesn't do the job...Which I can't find now. :-( But it deals with the 1) gap between the front derailleur and chainring and 2) when the front derailleur is rotated so the cage is not aligned with the chainring
@DavidGrady-er8ri
@DavidGrady-er8ri Жыл бұрын
Thanks for a helpful video. I have managed to sort out my problem.Dave
@larshyhansen3229
@larshyhansen3229 3 ай бұрын
Thank you for the advice, which helped me to exclude options, I discovered that a small piece of not visible rock had become stuck in the front derailleur mechanism and it fell out as I turned my bike upside down - problem solved
@djcrownvic7017
@djcrownvic7017 Жыл бұрын
Before taking the bike to a mechanic, check your chain. I made the mistake of putting the wrong chain and it often fell off the large chain ring when shifting. Tried another one and the problem was solved. So my derailleur cage wasn't bent after all!
@aaabbb7687
@aaabbb7687 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Park Tool this saved my marriage,
@Goku-bp9um
@Goku-bp9um 3 жыл бұрын
thank you soo much i got this full suspention trek and the frotn gears wont work and now i fixwd this vidio helped me so much
@DaMitch79
@DaMitch79 6 жыл бұрын
OMG in My Case there was a little stone trapped within the shifting mechanism blocking it - the shifter lever wasnt moving at all - i first thought my rapid fire mechanism was gone !!! i dont believe it im glad i DID NOT disassembled everything at first place . Removing this F**** little stone fixed shifting
@kouryuu369
@kouryuu369 6 жыл бұрын
Great video(s)! The detail and intuition provided is really helpful. The issue I'm having is that adjusting the limit screws does not move the cage. I manually moved it in and out and managed to get a little movement out of it so I think maybe its just really grimy in there. Would lubrication (or wd-40 or similar) help? I just changed the cables on my bike so I'm confident they're ok. Thanks!
@parktool
@parktool 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Lubrication will definitely help. Sometimes You may have to turn it a few times to get the screw to come in contact with the stop. This is especially prevalent on the low limit of the front derailleur. Lube... good, and keep turning. Hope this helps! Let us know how it goes.
@ulrickgermain6721
@ulrickgermain6721 Жыл бұрын
Yeah! Ortherwise use the T9,its very helpful
@buakawfan333
@buakawfan333 6 жыл бұрын
I've gone through the main tutorial, adjusted alignment in both planes of movement, adjusted limit screws, done the indexing, then checked the advanced tutorial and checked cable housing and chainring bolts. My rings and chain are all brand new. I'm at my wit's end. The chain still has problems shifting from big to middle ring (worst offender) and also from middle to big ring. This also can be perfect on the work station, but then when riding for a few minutes reverts back to being a ****. I've taken everything off and rebuilt and readjusted countless times now and keep getting the same issue. The only thing I noticed was that when the cable is slack and I'm testing the movement of the derailleur, in order to then re-tighten the cable to set the perfect tension, that my derailleur doesn't ever move over as far as yours does in the main tutorial. Even with full slackness it does a half-arsed movement (even when I pull the chain to the side to stop it getting in the way). I took it off and sprayed it up in all the nooks and crannies and tested it whilst in my hand, and it moves fine, but when on the bike and activated by the shifter it seems weaker. No matter what I adjust I can never get the whole system working perfectly. If one part is working perfectly due to cable tension, another part will be off. What are your thoughts?
@parktool
@parktool 6 жыл бұрын
When you replaced the chainrings on the bike did you time the rings correctly? I ask this because you say it works in the stand but not while riding. This indicates that the chain might not be catching on the correct part of the chain ring. many chainrings will have ramps and pins that help the chain catch the next gear and also helps the chain drop. If these are not correctly oriented then the shifting will not work under load very well. Also, what is the condition of the cable and housing?
@stanlee2913
@stanlee2913 2 жыл бұрын
Hey there, I have a front derailleur issue that is not in the video. When I try to take front gear to lowest it immadiately slacenks the cable, I mean its like shifter just loses its grip. If you can help I would really appreciate it. Thnks for the video btw.
@dr2944
@dr2944 2 жыл бұрын
Tried exchanging front derailleur. But ''seat post angle'' and or ''cage size'' caused a problem? Do the cages differ in angle and or size in length? On crank I changed from 2 to 3 chain rings. Hoping to see a solution on KZbin. Thank you
@lilpogchamp4904
@lilpogchamp4904 2 жыл бұрын
Love you man! You remind me so much of my Lolo♥️
@sdkid6059
@sdkid6059 5 жыл бұрын
Great video, well presented video, I learned a lot in 4 minutes.
@Desserich1
@Desserich1 2 жыл бұрын
I replaced the left shifter and it came with a new cable. I installed everything and then used one of your videos to adjust the front derailleur and it was very helpful. However, no matter what I adjusted, the shifter won't click to 3rd when the cable is attached. If I loosen the pinch bolt and disconnect the cable, I can get the shifter to do all 3 clicks and the cable moves slightly for each. What is happening when I reattach that prevents the shifter from clicking to 3? When it is in 2, I push the thumb to click to 3 and the thumb just presses all the way in with no impact on the derailleur and no click. Any thoughts?
3 ай бұрын
I watched all your videos and they are great. However, I have an issue with the front derailleur shifter I've never seen. When I try to shift from middle to larges cog (front), the shifter lever does not pull the cable until I repeat it a couple of times and then it "catches". From smaller to middle cog this issue does not occur. Any advice you could share?
@adamorth1943
@adamorth1943 7 жыл бұрын
Bent cage, baby!! Woo-hoo. Thanks!
@Kizzle001
@Kizzle001 Ай бұрын
I have ghost shifting and a bike shop told me the chain and chainring need replaced since some of the teeth are like "sharks teeth". Everything else seems good on the rear D. Any other fixes I could try?
@UchihaSumairu
@UchihaSumairu 5 жыл бұрын
I was going to adjust mine but for some reason the tension is so high I cant seem to get the lever on the handlebars to go past half way (front stays on middle cog and wont go to largest). i checked the cable when its on the smallest cog and it isnt really tight just firmly in place... any idea whats causing this? changing the l and h screws dont solve it.. i cant find anything it could be stuck on either... its a brand new bike and i found out the spokes are so loose they creak from the slightest movement of the bike so i'm pretty frustrated... to be fair it was shipped through mail so i should have expected as much.
@travisrewalt2614
@travisrewalt2614 7 жыл бұрын
Very nice job! The video editing is fantastic as well!
@TheDiegoloop
@TheDiegoloop 4 жыл бұрын
I'm indexing my gears and adjusted the front derailleur, but when on the lowest gear+smallest ring and trying to switch the front derailleur to the big ring, the chain gets stuck. The derailleur cage is practically parallel to the ground and it seems like the problem is related to that. How can I fix it?
@AvnerRosenstein-ULTRA-LXV
@AvnerRosenstein-ULTRA-LXV Жыл бұрын
If the Gear Shifter is on 1 or L for the Front Derailleur, which cog should the chain be on in a 3 cog/18 speed bike?
@Skaetdude
@Skaetdude 4 жыл бұрын
I just bought a Shimano 4050 9 speed crankset, i can now only afford a chain or front derailleur, which one would be more important until i can afford the latter? Thanks
@newboysgeneration6198
@newboysgeneration6198 5 жыл бұрын
Beautiful explanation
@rashidyasin6784
@rashidyasin6784 Жыл бұрын
videos are well made and well explained
@TipODissPrimeTheGreat
@TipODissPrimeTheGreat Ай бұрын
Question : what if the H and L screws eels to not make contact
@damonspark4303
@damonspark4303 4 жыл бұрын
this guy rules
@skelethronewarrior7056
@skelethronewarrior7056 3 жыл бұрын
My problem is everytime when I'm in the largest cog, when I'm putting it on second it goes directly in smallest and skipping the second
@inglouriousmofo
@inglouriousmofo 3 жыл бұрын
Adjust your front system from scratch. It's usually a bad combination of the shifter set screw and low set screw but more the shifter screw.
@HOOLEESHEET_08
@HOOLEESHEET_08 Жыл бұрын
Why do my chain is hanging on front derailleur
@Ruaridh_ONeil
@Ruaridh_ONeil 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate your a legend
@ashidasd8160
@ashidasd8160 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah replacement is the best option
@SFBFiendYT
@SFBFiendYT 9 күн бұрын
My fromt derailleur has some how shifted into the back tire what am i meant to do. Its not warped or anything js shifted somehow
@meirionwilliams2446
@meirionwilliams2446 4 жыл бұрын
Hi every time I ride my bike and start pedalling there is a constant clicking noise coming from front derailleur. It sounds more like a drilling noise than a clicking noise Can you please help to solve this issue thank you and stay safe.
@hnmn9934
@hnmn9934 4 жыл бұрын
In addition, Can wobbling rear hub or gear also be cause the front derailleur problems? Thanks
@ronanoboyle8432
@ronanoboyle8432 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Great clear concise vid!
@jorgeparra4193
@jorgeparra4193 7 жыл бұрын
Excellent video
@crystalseinxi
@crystalseinxi 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@MikkoRantalainen
@MikkoRantalainen 2 жыл бұрын
How about a small wobble in chainring? I think even that makes 3-by-systems hard to tune just right and replacing all the whole front end cogs just for that gets expensive. Is it possible to bend chainring to true, shim the chainring or is the replacement the only real option?
@parktool
@parktool 2 жыл бұрын
Small deviations can be adjusted out of chainrings. Careful use of pry tools, a hammer and a punch can correct these deviations. start with small adjustments and go bigger.
@brunosgaming1444
@brunosgaming1444 4 жыл бұрын
hi park tool! do you have video for adding Front derailleur (spacer) ring?
@djcrownvic7017
@djcrownvic7017 Жыл бұрын
I suspect that my derailleur cage is slightly bent. Also the fact that I have a biopace/oval tech crank probably makes the adjusting harder.
@hashslinginhasher
@hashslinginhasher 2 жыл бұрын
if you have a bent tooth on a front sprocket, is it bad to torch it and try to bend it while hot?
@parktool
@parktool 2 жыл бұрын
it would be best to bend while cold. If aluminum it is going to break off. But if steel it will likely be just fine bending back.
@parktool
@parktool 2 жыл бұрын
Do not heat the metal. Just bend it a little at a time, trying not to over shoot. If it breaks, it was unusable anyway. Test ride and see how it works.
@certifiedomlayoo
@certifiedomlayoo 4 жыл бұрын
My deraileur wont change to the third chain ring, what should i do?
@johngreene6783
@johngreene6783 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Calvin, I need your expertise. I have a 2x10 Tiagra 4700 setup. The front derailleur is a bottom pull. I removed it to clean and lube pivot points. After reinstalling and adjusting cable tension, the front derailleur will no longer shift to the large chainring without having to use excessive force which makes it utterly unusable. In my troubleshooting, I found that when the cable is disconnected, the front derailleur moves smoothly. With the cable still disconnected and holding the cable with my fingers, the shifter works normally and cable is pulled and released as I shift through its range. It was working decently prior to removal and clean/lube. I have played with cable tension, limit screws all to no avail. I am stumped. Any ideas??
@cellar-door
@cellar-door 3 жыл бұрын
Having the same issue and nobody seems to have good advice for it
@sonygoup
@sonygoup 3 жыл бұрын
thanks my guy
@zelupl2063
@zelupl2063 3 жыл бұрын
It sometimes happen to me, that in order for derailleur to work fine, I need to set cable tension so that it's slack on first gear. What do you think could be an issue here? Bad chainline?
@pavolhanzel5242
@pavolhanzel5242 6 жыл бұрын
Calvin Jones 2020
@mikewilliams696
@mikewilliams696 Жыл бұрын
@Marc_B.
@Marc_B. Жыл бұрын
I have to use my inline barrel adjuster way too much to avoid excessive rubbing. When I use my hardest combination, I need to tighten the barrel adjuster 6 times, so I don't rub a lot. (This is not because I'm pedaling hard.) When I use my easiest one, or two combinations, I have to loosen the barrel adjuster all the way back 6 times, so it doesn't rub the other way. The cable was installed with proper tension. I installed this FD-7900 exactly like ParkTool recommended. Later, I tried adding a crank spacer to move the chainrings out, but that didn't help much. It was working well on my CAAD7 (60cm); but not on my CAAD7 (58cm). Maybe the cage got bent, but I know it didn't take a hit of any kind. I wonder if tightening the pinch bolt too hard could have bent the cage in? From (my) naked eye, it seems okay. But, that light-weight DuraAce probably bends easy. I think if I try bending the whole cage outward, it might help, but I hate going down that road. I just got this expensive derailleur, and hate to ruin it, unless it's already on the way out.
@parktool
@parktool Жыл бұрын
Have you checked that your bar tape is not preventing the housing from seating fully at the shifter? That can take up some of the cable pull.
@Marc_B.
@Marc_B. Жыл бұрын
@@parktool Yes, everything is seated tightly. It just seems that the whole cage needs to start out further away from the seat-tube. I'm about to switch derailleurs to see if there's any difference.
@parktool
@parktool Жыл бұрын
If you can get it not to rub by changing the cable tension I would not think the location is incorrect. Check the routing of the cable too. There is a small tab on the derailleur the cable needs to be run over that to increase the amount the cable moves the derailleur.
@Marc_B.
@Marc_B. Жыл бұрын
@@parktool They don't pay u enuf! Where do I send the case of IPA? (Yes, the small tab turns out to be a big deal!)
@CogumeloMagico28
@CogumeloMagico28 6 жыл бұрын
I tried to use the front deraileur limit screws but the deraileur didnt move, any ideas?
@VideoNOLA
@VideoNOLA 5 жыл бұрын
I recall about 20 years ago, reading about many different types of cable housing (Teflon-coated, reinforced, black or white, etc.) some of which required special tools and techniques to install. Nowadays, all the mechanics say "Buy new cable housing" like it's a generic "one size fits all" product. Is that true these days??
@parktool
@parktool 5 жыл бұрын
There are quality levels in cables and in housings these days. Many shops or home mechanics have a big sspool of a decent housing and then have some decent cables that they use as the shop or home mechanics "everyday" use stuff. Then they usually will have a higher end option or two. Never lower quality as some of the inexpensive cables and housings are terrible.
@ausmick003
@ausmick003 7 жыл бұрын
Dude you my Hero....
@thecappy
@thecappy 4 жыл бұрын
Can you do one on the newer shimano fd with the stabilizer and tensioner screw?
@parktool
@parktool 4 жыл бұрын
Yes we will be getting to that.
@thecappy
@thecappy 4 жыл бұрын
@@parktool thank you! I recently bought a new bike with the grx groupset, and needed to do some adjustments. I was super confused, but eventually figured it out. I have been a Sram guy this last decade and set it up like a normal FD. Didn't work out so well.
@pksingh9460
@pksingh9460 6 жыл бұрын
How do i fix my bike's derailleure spring
@78flex
@78flex 4 жыл бұрын
I had big problems with my FD. Watched this and other videos, but no clues. The reason was that the middle chainring had been mounted the wrong way (yup, I did it myself). Just another thing to check if nothing works and you don't know why...
@michaloy
@michaloy 4 жыл бұрын
Can't shift into 1st the largest cog but second and 3rd is fine? Any ideas guys?
@mohamedzakariachorfi5541
@mohamedzakariachorfi5541 4 жыл бұрын
I noticed a small wobble in my chainring Which makes the chain rub against the derraileur when in the two smallest cogs and the biggest chainring. I tried to set the limit screw but the chain keeps rubbing. Please help me
@parktool
@parktool 4 жыл бұрын
Some small wobbles are not uncommon. But these can rub if big enough as you have seen. Sometimes some models can accept bending to straighten, but sometimes it just means new rings.
@mohamedzakariachorfi5541
@mohamedzakariachorfi5541 4 жыл бұрын
Can a loose cranck cap be the cause of the wobble?
@mohamedzakariachorfi5541
@mohamedzakariachorfi5541 4 жыл бұрын
@@parktool thank you
@randolphpastor3288
@randolphpastor3288 4 жыл бұрын
Parktool can you make a vid preventing the front derailluer clamp scratching the frame? I hope youll notice me.
@parktool
@parktool 4 жыл бұрын
Clamps by their design must press against the tube. It certainly can occur that you get a scratch. However, remove the derailleur. Feel inside the clamp for any sharp edges. Use a jeweler's fine or find emery cloth to finish smooth. I can sometimes help to use thin adhesive tape. Place this inside the derailleur clamp, not the frame. The adhesive sticks to the clamp surfaces. Use a razor blade to trim off any excess beyond the clamp. Thick tape will change the diameter and may not allow the clamp to work, use an electrician's tape.
@johnstewart4885
@johnstewart4885 5 жыл бұрын
First, your videos are great. Just enough detail, but not overwhelming. My problem is that my Shimano front brifter moves the front derailleur far enough outboard to move the chain to the large outside sprocket. But it doesn't click and hold the position. So the derailleur moves back inboard and jumps the chain back to the small front sprocket. It seems to me this is a problem with the brifter, not the derailleur. What can I do?
@parktool
@parktool 5 жыл бұрын
If you fully disconnect the cable and verify that the shifter is missing a shift then I would flush the shifter with a light lubricant like TriFlow or T9. Work the shifter to exercise the internals. The gear may come back. It may not.
@johnstewart4885
@johnstewart4885 5 жыл бұрын
@@parktool thanks so much for taking time to reply. I received the same advice from others and fully flushed the shifter. It is very clean now with fresh lubricant. It turns out that the derailleur was out of position to begin with. Too far inboard. I enlisted my wife's help. I pulled the derailleur over, pulled the cable tight, she tightened the nut.
@ritchey111
@ritchey111 4 жыл бұрын
What to do, when my L limit screw is loosen up, the cable tension is loose as well, but the chain still rubs the inner part of front derailleur when on small chainring and biggest sprocket (Shimano 105 2x11, 52/36 chainring, 11-30 cassette)?
@parktool
@parktool 4 жыл бұрын
Double check the rotation. It may need a little clockwise rotation, as seen from the top.
@abdulshengtatongkwanggol5726
@abdulshengtatongkwanggol5726 4 жыл бұрын
Could you do a 3x8 adjustments
@BastHoen
@BastHoen 7 жыл бұрын
Great videos! Thanks!
@drawsimply21
@drawsimply21 3 жыл бұрын
My shifter for the front derailleur is stiff. It hurts my thumb while I try to shift gear onto the next. Help?
@parktool
@parktool 3 жыл бұрын
Lubricate the pivots of the derailleur. Also lubricate the cable. To test the lever pull, disconnect the front cable, and pull it with one hand. Move the lever with the other hand. It should not be hard to move the lever. Lubricate the lever if it is still.
@gimincorp
@gimincorp 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you, In my case all it took was a cleaning and lubrication!
@siklistangbaboy8351
@siklistangbaboy8351 4 жыл бұрын
Why is my front derailleur not moving when I adjust the limit screws?
@parktool
@parktool 4 жыл бұрын
The limit screws do not move the derailleur, they limit the derailleurs movement on the extreme ends of its range. So, that means that your derailleur is not at either of its limits.
@zakariae8470
@zakariae8470 4 ай бұрын
thnx that's helpful
@andyapps2899
@andyapps2899 2 жыл бұрын
My chain does not sit on the middle chain ring when shifting from top chain ring to middle
@timothyds7453
@timothyds7453 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome explanatory vid! I've learned a lot and can now make successful adjustments myself ^^ Unfortunately I'm currently still riding my 14y old "MTB" with a 3X gear up front ... more of a 'city bike gear' on an ok MTB like frame :/... and after playing with the rear suspension settings ... which didn't turn out well since it's more a bike pretending to be a MTB ... the sticker on the frame even says so :D ... I ended up with the problem that I can get everything to work alright in the repair stand but during testriding the suspension obviously manipulates the chain tension thus the front derailleur doesn't want to shift well between the 3 gears. Either (i) all except the biggest work fine ... or (ii) the problem is going back down from the biggest cog. Guess it's just a matter of a lot of try and error and making small adjustments over time ... Guess this explains why real MTB's normally only have a 1x or at most 2x at the front... Thus currently I'm just gonna use the medium size cog at the front until I've had enough time and patience to get it fully set. I have "motor bike throttle style" shifters thus I guess I can use the extra click's to "over adjust" the derailleur while on the repair stand and than see what effect it has during test riding.
@danoedalo
@danoedalo 5 жыл бұрын
My Shimano FD-R2000 front derailer's trim is troubling me a lot, there's always a gear or two in the middle of the cassette that results in the chain rubbing the derailer cage even after the trim is performed. it's like the cable pull ratio is too big, so instead of rubbing the outer plate, it starts rubbing the inner one after the trim is performed. I checked the assembly as per the manual like million times, all the gear is brand new, so this is really frustrating to have like two gears in the middle not available without rubbing. The only working way to get rid of this is to set the 3rd (of 4) position so it covers only two gears like 4-5 and then upper limit screw would prevent the cage from moving too far for the 4th position to get 6-8 gears in place. But that's like 10 or 11 working gears in total with very limited freedom of not using the left shifter all the time, better off without the derailer in the first place and simply put up with 50x11-32 I think.
@parktool
@parktool 5 жыл бұрын
Have you tried routing the cable differently? That derailleur has 2 different routing options that provide different leverage ratios depending on the angle that the cable is fed to the derailleur. You can see the gauge that shimano provides for setup on page 14 of there installation manual.
@MadDogTM
@MadDogTM 2 ай бұрын
I think mine is just slightly bent lol. I slammed my ebike so hard i busted the lcd, bent my key inside the ignition, and bent the front detailer. Bike will still work even with a broken lcd and ignition i just need the chain to move, even though i can just throttle
@PuntokUno1014
@PuntokUno1014 4 жыл бұрын
My chain rubs in the fd when using the big plate. And if i adjust it, the other plate will have also the same problem
@anmolsaini5236
@anmolsaini5236 2 жыл бұрын
My cycle is stuck on 1 gear on the front and cycle shop is like 10 km from my home pls someone tell me something pls
@bikebeebeebike711
@bikebeebeebike711 5 жыл бұрын
I have a problem with my 'nakamura evolution' full suspension bike. Neither me or my friends or lokal bike shops can't make the front derailleur work. Its a 3x9 system. We tried different cranks, chainrings, dereileurs etc. Basically all we could think of. We didnt try sram fd tho. Would that perhaps make any difference?
@parktool
@parktool 5 жыл бұрын
Is it not shifting at all? Or is it not hitting certain gears? A breif description of the issue will help alot.
@bikebeebeebike711
@bikebeebeebike711 5 жыл бұрын
@@parktool it won't shift to granny or outer most chainring. Like the cage doesn't push the chain far enough to shift from one chainring to another. If i set it shift to biggest chainring up front, there is too much clearence between chain and the outer fd plate,so the chain can fall off. As for the granny goes. The derailleur L limit screw is unwind all the way, so the plastic cover of the derailleur hits the seat tube (it can't move in anymore) and still can't shift to granny. The hight and the angle of the cage is set properly. The cranks are ht2. 2 spacers on the drive side.
@parktool
@parktool 5 жыл бұрын
If you could shoot me some pictures to truman@parktool.com I should be able to tell you more. Interesting issue. Pictures from a top view, side view, shifter and bike as a whole would be preferred.
@vladgabriel2666
@vladgabriel2666 Жыл бұрын
took me a while to get the hang of it but now its shifting smoothly i think😅
@geraldfernandez5483
@geraldfernandez5483 4 жыл бұрын
How do i deal with my middle gear kinda gets stuck or something when climbing
@parktool
@parktool 4 жыл бұрын
Find the offending "burr" and file it down or it could be "chain suck" Chain suck is when the teeth of the ring are worn or the chain is muddy so it clings to the chainring as it is pedaled and it is not allowed to release from the chainring. It gets bound up. Often the solution is a new chainring.
@JulioManalastas
@JulioManalastas 4 жыл бұрын
Why if I'm pedalling then I stop pedalling and my chain stucks and doesn't freewheeling how can I fix it
@parktool
@parktool 4 жыл бұрын
There could be a few things happening. You could have something like a spoke protector or a pice of string or grass wedged behind the freewheel not allowing it to freewheel properly. Or you could have a seized up freewheel. If you clean the debris or there is none and it still is having the issue you can sometimes get some lubricant into the freewheel to break it free but replacement is suggested at that point.
@austine9137
@austine9137 3 жыл бұрын
What do you do when the barrel adjuster won't thread into its place
@parktool
@parktool 3 жыл бұрын
Be careful, don't force it. Disconnect the cable at the pinch bolt to get slack. Now align the threads of the adjuster with the lever and carefully re-thread it. If it will not start, the internal thread might be damaged, and need a M5 x 0.8mm tap to clean.
@minimalnomad6851
@minimalnomad6851 6 жыл бұрын
Issue. Orbea Avant h30. Shimano 105 front derailleur and rear. Adjusted everything really well. The bike is new. Less than 100 miles on it. Clean as a whistle. The issue I'm having is front derailleur is slow to downshift. I have 2 front chainrings and 3 index position on the Front derailleur. To downshift quickly I need to double downshift. If I single downshift...it drags too much before dropping inward to the small chainring. Otherwise the bike is smooth in all.otber shifting.
@parktool
@parktool 6 жыл бұрын
I'm guessing this is the most recent 105 group. The front shifter has 4 positions. You are dealing with was one of the upgrades with the new system. So when shifting to the large right it goes up normally, then the shift down it hesitates and shifts and may make a bit of noise until you release again? They made this shift to the smaller chainring a two tap process in order to reduce the amount of chain drops people would have. Usually you can get it to the point where it is hard to notice the rubbing on that first down shift but it is best to hit it twice. You can also run the low limit a little bit looser as there is less risk of the chain falling off.The 4th position up top is found if you very lightly press the release lever instead of doing a firm shift. It is a trim for the large ring and the other one is the trim adjust for the small ring.
@minimalnomad6851
@minimalnomad6851 6 жыл бұрын
Park Tool awesome! That makes perfect sense! I was thinking maybe it was a trim... hence the double tap to down shift into small ring. It's smooth and has no issue going in...it's just that trim setting that is noisy. That being said...it seems it's normal then. They didn't adjust it properly from the shop I purchased...so I used your videos to go through my enitre indexing for all my gears. Thank you greatly for the response!!! And the videos! Tremendously helpful
@Bricklinsv1970
@Bricklinsv1970 3 жыл бұрын
My chain sometimes will suddenly jump from large chainring to the middle chainring when it was fully locked in indexed
@parktool
@parktool 3 жыл бұрын
Certainly that can occur. Double check the rotation and also the H-limit. If a bit on the tight side, it may allow the chain to fall inward.
@Bricklinsv1970
@Bricklinsv1970 3 жыл бұрын
@@parktool That's exactly what it was thank you kindly Sir :)
@mak2349
@mak2349 5 жыл бұрын
thanks. one sorted rear mech
@mak2349
@mak2349 5 жыл бұрын
erm front mech....
@sebstefan3934
@sebstefan3934 6 жыл бұрын
LEGEND
@richardrichard5409
@richardrichard5409 3 жыл бұрын
Hang on, at 0:57 that's the high ratio front chain ring isn't it? Great video though
@GlobalDesignHD
@GlobalDesignHD 4 жыл бұрын
Dude you could be a teacher in a private school. Send them these video's as resume and u are probably hired
@jeremiahjenkins9221
@jeremiahjenkins9221 5 жыл бұрын
My return spring on my front derailleur is loose. But i cannot seem to find where to re-attatch it. I can shift into high but not back too low.
@parktool
@parktool 5 жыл бұрын
Often that is the end of that front derailleurs life. maybe look at images of that specific front derailleur andyou will find where it is supposed to be attached as it varies from model to model.
@jeremiahjenkins9221
@jeremiahjenkins9221 5 жыл бұрын
@@parktool Hey. Thank you so much for replying! Very helpful info :)
@SuperFluffyCarrot
@SuperFluffyCarrot 6 жыл бұрын
what about worn limit screws
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