Frozen Hell by John W. Campbell || New Worlds November 2021 - Aliens Week

[@thebookishbryants]

Hi, Brandy! The Thing from 1982 is kind of tied for my favorite horror film of all time. The other is Alien. I am so glad to finally have read Who Goes There? I did enjoy the story, though it wasn't perfect. I was impressed by this being his very first story. Thank you for the review. It was really, really good! Scott.

[@TheBookclectic]

It wasn't his first story. It was his last. He published it in Astounding after he became the editor! LOL That still strikes me as kind of funny! And oh Alien! I really liked that one too!

[@thebookishbryants]

@@TheBookclectic Ah. Ok. I got my wires crossed. I watch Alien at least once a year. I HATE the sequel, Aliens. I think it is awful. Scott.

[@TheBookclectic]

@@thebookishbryants Yes Aliens was so-so. They probably should have just left it alone, because the rest were just plain terrible. Have you seen the prequel Prometheus? I thought that one was really good too.

[@thebookishbryants]

@@TheBookclectic Becky likes Prometheus a lot, but I need to give it another watch. I didn't care for it the first time. Not sure why. I will watch it again this week. I know a lot of people who love it.

[@TheBookclectic]

Well it just might not be for you. I know there were some Alien fans who didn't care for it.

[@timothy4131]

Hi Brandi I can recommend some excellent science fiction that has been my favorite I've been reading the series since I've been 16 and I'm 55 now it's called BattleTech excellent

[@WritteninBlood]

The Thing is one of my all-time favorite movies. I've read Who Goes There? at least five times and Frozen Hell once. This was an excellent review from you and are certainly right about Campbell's descriptive talents.

[@TheBookclectic]

I love the movie as well! I never read Who Goes There, but I really liked Frozen Hell! I will have to re-read it though since in got a little bit lost in that second part.

[@WritteninBlood]

@@TheBookclectic If you read Frozen Hell then you've read Who Goes There? Frozen Hell is the extended version of Who Goes There?

[@TheBookclectic]

@@WritteninBlood I knew it was, but I thought maybe there were other changes. I watched another BookTuber's video who read Who Goes There, and they were mentioning things that seemed to have gone a little bit differently in Frozen Hell.

[@WritteninBlood]

@@TheBookclectic Yes I think there were a few things that were different but I don't remember what they are.

[@onojioboardwalk9748]

@@TheBookclectic .. READ us the story first, THEN do commentary after!

[@mindysbookjourney]

This book sounds so good. I need to read it and watch the movie. I can't believe I haven't watched The Thing.

[@TheBookclectic]

Oh it's so good! The 1982 version anyway!

[@bookssongsandothermagic]

I love this story - great review! - just subscribed to your channel - looking forward to more videos of your reviews.

[@TheBookclectic]

Thank you so much! I'm glad you're joining me! ❤

[@theramblingreviewer5150]

Awesome review! I was wanting to read this, so i might squeeze Who Goes There in tomorrow. Also, i love The Thing. Favorite classic horror movie!

[@TheBookclectic]

Nice! And The Thing is a good one. I forgot how nice looking Kurt Russell was when he was young! 🤣

[@Kingnome]

Just finished the audio book. Loved It! 4 out 5. Another good one is Siberian Incident by Greig Beck. There should be a 1 season series on this book.

[@TheBookclectic]

Oh Greig Beck... I have one of his books, but I don't recall which one. I'm glad you enjoyed this one. You have good taste! ❤

[@Michael_0451]

Will you be doing a video review for the sequel book to this universe "Things from Another World" by John Betancourt?

[@TheBookclectic]

Hmm. I was not aware anyone wrote a sequel. I don't know how I feel about reading a sequel to a story that has already ended perfectly and was not written by the original author, but it is a possibility. I will definitely look into that book and see what I think! ❤

[@parlabaneisback]

I haven't read the story, but the empathy for the alien was interesting. It reminded me a bit of how Frankenstein's 'monster' was treated.

[@TheBookclectic]

I can see why you'd be reminded of Frankenstein's creation based on my description! That's one of my favorite books of all time by the way!

[@DamnableReverend]

I'm new to the channel, and have subscribed. i really enjoyed this review. It's been quite a few years since I read the story, and will have to re-read soon. The THing 91982) is one of my favourite horror films. I definitely saw the ending of the Campbell tale as being more positive (for the humans, heheh) than the film, which went for a more ominous, very horror-type ending (which I really like). Campbell wanted his writers in Astounding to portray aliens that "thought as well as a man", but he didn't want them to be *better* than men, and so usually his stories kind of convey a "triumph of the human spirit" feeling to them, i think. BTW, the first film based on the story is called "The Thing from Another World", and I personally think it's very much worth a watch. Definitely not as "scary" as the 1982 film, but the way they portrayed the characters and dialogue in the 1951 version was awesome. it also has an ending thatis just a tad bit more like the story's, or at least, is probably something Campbell himself would have agreed with. The alien doesn't quite have the same effecta nd power, but I think is still quite an interesting creature in its own right, and the people on the base are well portrayed (very different from the story, though). There's even a woman in the cast and she's a pretty good character, too. It's a lot less like Campbell's story than the 1982 movie is and I almost feel taht makes it stand out in a special way.

[@TheBookclectic]

I'm so glad you enjoyed my review, and thank you for subscribing ❤. I was aware of The Thing From Another World, but I haven't seen it. I planned to but never got there. Thanks for sharing your thoughts on it. You've made me want to watch that sooner rather than later!

[@DamnableReverend]

@@TheBookclectic Hey, I don't know what your thoughts on 50s sci-fi movies are, but this is definitely one of the good ones. I tend to like them anyway (there's just something about the vibe some of these movies have) but even if it's not your everyday pleasure there's just so much historical significance in this one. And it's where the legendary phrase "Watch the skies!" comes from.

[@TheBookclectic]

@@DamnableReverend I love old movies, especially Science Fiction and the old creature horror movies. And how neat that that phrase came from that movie!

[@DamnableReverend]

@@TheBookclectic I love that stuff as well. Another favourite is The Trolenberg Terror, also known as...The Crawling Eye! But...it's so good! haha But there are so many, and even the ones that are not masterpieces, are sometimes just an interesting sample of their time and place.

[@TheBookclectic]

@@DamnableReverend I don't believe I have heard of that one, but I agree. There are a lot of not so good ones well worth watching!

[@RSEFX]

I LOVE the original WHO GOES THERE as well as the Carpenter film (and like the first THE THING too, tho it differs tremendously from Campbell's story). I found FROZEN HELL---other than a few passages and enjoying seeing more material on the original story---really sloppily written, almost incoherent in spots. (I also found him using the word "vast" repeatedly on the same 2 pages, showing this to be only a rough draft. Still, Campbell is to be commended for the story, one of SF's all time classics, and I'm glad that the longer version with all of its faults, has been published. Thanks.

[@TheBookclectic]

I have not yet read Who Goes There for comparison. I should do that. Thank you for sharing your thoughts! ❤

[@Joao-Astronomo]

This girl is pretty

[@randez626]

Its called frozen HELL for a reason. Clearly the author is telling a HORROR story, thus YES the alien IS evil. Smh

[@RowanFox77]

A villain or antagonist is not necessarily evil.