The REAL Reason We Got Kingdom Hearts: Cloud Version on Switch

Oh boy, Kingdom Hearts has finally come to Nintendo Switch! Oh no, it appears another finger on my monkey paw has curled up!
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[@FrustratedJacob]

It's worth saying that while you shouldn't buy these collections on Nintendo Switch, you SHOULD buy them on Playstation, Xbox, or PC! The 1.5+2.5 collection was already an incredible package, but the All-In-One Collection throws in 2.8 and KH3 to provide maybe the most bang for your buck of ANY single video game collection on the market right now.

[@G.L.999]

It wouldn't surprise me if Square Enix are actually waiting to put the KH collection on Nintendo's successor on its 25th anniversary in 2027; along with the possible KH4 installment!

[@aeroZo_yt]

Well said

[@Adrot]

Pc version sucks for 1.5, has trashy crashes

[@ericrinehart477]

Heck depending on how long the deal for KH games being only on epic store only way to play kh on the go will probably be on the Steam deck that releasing this year

[@but_iWantedTo_speakGerman]

I don't think anyone "should" buy KH3 or play past KH2.

[@ajarofmayo6110]

What seriously kills me is the fact that I JUST bought the All-In-One Package collection on PS4, and then they come out on Switch. They had me up until they said cloud version. Yeah, I'd actually like to *play* the game, not press the x button only for it to finally register by the time Kingdom Hearts 4 comes out.

[@devonm042690]

Holy shit, that's me! Well, kind of. There are most steps to mine, and it kinda-sorta went in reverse with a bit of squiggle-swerve.

[@stebopign]

i bought mine for about 20 usd around the time sora was announced for smash. especially when i heard the word cloud. playing kh 1.5 now on the ps4 after finally getting out of the crack that was smash online. (played tlou first) lols. gonna play tlou 2 after 1.5.. then. kh2.

[@haseoboi9433]

Be glad you bought that and I did the same too. And that's before the switch ver. Got released. I already know it's going to problematic because of Nintendo. It's a weakass console, very outdated. Ps4 version is alot better. Thing is Sora moves slow on optional boss battles and sometimes he can't move properly. I imagine the cloud version makes it even worse.

[@h3rculesh3]

🤣🤣

[@hypnotoad28]

@@h3rculesh3 no u

[@johntee9691]

I'm actually kind of afraid of this selling well because... well, everything sells well on the switch

[@EduardoTorelly]

but most thing that sell well on the switch are exclusive for the switch or are only avaliable on wiiU and switch.

[@Goremize]

Not everything sells well on the Switch and the biggest driving factor is Nintendo making things limited time. No one talks about their recent releases anymore, its always the "new" thing. You can't even buy all the Mario Anniversary stuff anymore. Nintendo is such a terrible company.

[@jilp2002]

@@Goremize shut up

[@G.L.999]

@@Goremize You can still buy the anniversary collections. I still see them at places. So I don't know what you're complaining about. Pick and choose your words and emotional responses wisely next time.

[@camharkness]

@@G.L.999 I think they meant more.... like digitally. Nintendo WANTED 3d allstars to not be buy able at this point. There's just a surplus of physical copies still.

[@IvanHas2muchTime]

A wise man once said: "Man is the only animal that trips twice over the same stone". SQUARE at this point has tripped with both feet on the same stone multiple times and gone back for more.

[@camharkness]

I get what you mean.... but I've seen my dog trip over the exact same stick Over and over.

[@devonm042690]

@@camharkness That's a stick, not a stone. Tricky buggers, sticks.

[@FTChomp9980]

Kingdom Hearts Fans:"We want KH ported to Switch similar to The Witcher 3 and Doom a straight up port!" Square Enix:"Heard you loud and clear you want the cloud version right?" Kingdom Hearts Fans:"That's not what we even said!"

[@Andy-tp9nv]

KH fans: why switch no KH until now? in the past Nds,3ds got KH Square: Ok you want KH in switch? "Kingdom Hearts melody of memory release" KH fans: why! this is not RPG but music game Square: Ok, let we see if KH melody got enough budget and many people like it we will make it remake version "after several years KH 20th anniversary" Square: Sorry guys we don't earn enough money and too lazy to remake, but we will release KH cloud version for you all. KH fans:........... KH rich fans: Yes!! who cares i can play it now with my fast internet. this is only a joke ,so don't take it to heart.

[@ALinkToReno]

@@Andy-tp9nv I mean if they're then they'd either play the games on pc, ps5 and/ or series X

[@gejamugamlatsoomanam7716]

Switch cannot run kh3, kh3 could not hit locked 60fps on xbox one x.

[@ALinkToReno]

@@gejamugamlatsoomanam7716 they could still do the 2 collections though. And if they were to really optimize and downgrade kh3 graphically then they'd be able to get it to run on switch. It would never be the best version but they could've done it. Doing this they should be able to get the game to run better than the ps2 games run through cloud streaming at least.

[@jordangonzalez4658]

@@gejamugamlatsoomanam7716 so that should be the only cloud version

[@r4hul101]

The more I read the Square Enix New Year's Letter, the more it read's like a threat XD

[@LunarSyrin]

9:30 THIS!!! I can't believe not as many people are upset by this part alone! Why should I have to pay $90 for these games when I WON'T EVEN OWN THEM??? But this again shows Square doesn't really care about the of the ports after the real bad bugs with both PS3 and PC ports. Leave it to Square though to turn something that should be simple to something needlessly complicated

[@Mew_Stor]

People would happily buy them on the Switch for that price aslong if you don't need internet

[@evelyncumbie4645]

I have it on switch and it's awesome especially with the kh3 one shot kill

[@reivunrantington9425]

It's not that people aren't upset. People wanted this in handheld form. It was released on switch via cloud and that's the closest they got if not using emulation. Those either have the option of purchasing the steam deck, paying for a handheld device $1000+ or wait for a switch port that will happen if Zeus allows it. If those have the connection to run it, they benefit from it to an extent (network congestions suck) But at the end of the day, those who wanted it in handheld form have it. They can kick back and relax. Unfortunately it ain't the best way to play.

[@Tobunari]

Technically speaking you don't own them even if you buy the physical disc/cart/etc. I read through the Guitly Gear Strive license agreement. Despite buying the disc, if I don't play the game the way ARCSys agrees with they could remotely shut down my ability to play the game. This applies to just about any game over the past two decades apparently. Whole bunch of legal mumbo jumbo in old Nintendo manuals.

[@Mew_Stor]

@@Tobunari Yeah true even if it went just digital they could shut it down like example 10 years later the only best option is a physical release

[@elemomnialpha]

I hate how scummy it is that we pretty much can't even really vote with our wallets on this for what we actually want Buying the game on other platforms will just tell them that "There's no audience for KH on Nintendo platforms so let's not do that ever again" Not buying them at all will say the same thing Buying them will tell them that "Cloud versions are perfectly acceptable" even when they're very much not It's almost as bad as them calling Neo TWEWY a failure because it didn't sell as well as *FF7 REMAKE* I'm pirating this shit cuz of how terrible this is

[@Ladywizard]

@@kyestar88 They said it didn't meet as high sales figures as they wanted... despite them not really advertising it

[@Coal_the_rock]

@@Ladywizard I didn't even know that it was made until like a year after release

[@jaredarmstrong7403]

I’ve waited for 14 years for a new TWEWY. NEO was great, it wasn’t perfect, but I thought it was a worthy sequel to the last game, but looking at how it sold has made me rather disappointed in fans and Square. But on the other hand, looking at how Square has treated Final Fantasy and Kingdom Hearts has made me hesitant in seeing more. The churning out of so many spin-offs and so-so sequels makes me not want them to make a microtransaction filled sequel to NEO:TWEWY which is incidentally a DDR game because “it fits the brand”. Although, with the TWEWY soundtrack that actually almost sounds fun….

[@TheNrat]

@@Ladywizard it got just as much advertisement as triangle strategy. Thing is series was not super popular in first place and it’s aesthetic don’t sell to mainstream audience to want to constantly talk about and hype . Triangle , octopath, bravery default , going have people omg reminds me of a ff game from my childhood the golden days of square enix . Square enix cheap out on voice acting so I was shock Ed to see them say below expectations

[@Pandachu123]

SQUARE ENIX, THERE WERE SEVERAL GAMES ON NINTENDO SYSTEMS... WHADDYA MEAN, THERE WAS NO AUDIENCE?! 😭😭😭 Hell, Chain of Memories on the GBA was THE FIRST game I could actually play from the series! (Kid me thought it was a reboot on the Gameboy Advance) And then there's 358/2 Days and Re:Coded for the DS, which I also got and loved to bits. Square Enix really messed up here. It's a huge disappointment. I wish they could've done better with this. 😓

[@CitrusArchitect]

Fantastic arguments all around, this was very well thought out. Makes me really sad because I just picked up the entire series for 30 bucks at Walmart on PS4, but one of my family members bought it on switch because he didn’t have any other system or console. I want to send him this video but I don’t want to make him feel bad for shelling out $71 :/

[@linkskywalker5417]

I bought the whole series, including Days and Recoded, minus KHMom, from eBay for about that price.

[@KitKatNisa]

IT COSTS $71? Jesus Christ, that should be illegal.

[@Goremize]

71 dollars? 71 DOLLARS????? I'd do it anyway, cause it is not worth that AT ALL. No one should ever, ever ever ever ever buy this for the Switch

[@sirmel11]

I played the demo for Birth By Sleep and it wasn't that bad. There did seem to be a slight stutter maybe? But yeah, these should be physical.

[@ChiruKobra]

71 dollars... On sale. It's actually $90 normally.

[@Joe_334]

I felt like I was on the receiving end of Sora's insane air combos, after seeing the trailer, then seeing the performance, and finally the price for these. 🤢

[@devonm042690]

Which part of that was the building dread leading to a pronounced f-bomb that filled in for Magnet Burst?

[@Joe_334]

@@devonm042690 Man, I hate it when youtube slows down notifications. I don't understand why this trilogy is even viable when I can at least play two final mix versions of the first and second game on PCSX2. I have been wanting to play KHIII on a portable experience, but just caved and watched a walkthrough online. Now, I am into Dragon Quest Builders because this took too long.

[@orangeslash1667]

@@Joe_334 I recommend Legend of Mana on Switch as a Kingdom Hearts substitute. It even has Yoko Shimomura as the composer.

[@Vidiocity92]

It's a shame it doesn't work, cause Kingdom Hearts is a perfect game for the Switch. ... But yeah, having the physical copy is better anyway. Love your green screen room.

[@lordlofus1399]

For 10,000 years he laid dormant

[@Tenchinu]

people don’t hate on Square cause FF has all of us by the nostalgia balls… but, I mean… NFTs and Cloud gaming??? The light of the crystal apparently shines green

[@ToastyMann]

I hear people talk about how the collections have absurd file sizes that would be painful to fit on the Switch's storage or a game card, but that's horseshit because they fit the games on PS3 BLU-RAY DISCS. If those can handle the games, Switch cards can, too. Just separate 1.5 and 2.5 and you're good. You didn't need a cloud version.

[@S.K.R.E.Inc.]

Sony owns Blu Ray since 2006, they can manipulate the size at will and lie to media outlets about its max capacity to force them to buy more products, Nintendo hasn't bothered releasing a cartridge above 16GB despite promising it would

[@ThePhoneix999]

@@S.K.R.E.Inc. so single layer BD maxing out at 25 GB, dual layer 50GB, and triple layer 100 GB is all a lie

[@Thelango99]

@@S.K.R.E.Inc. The Witcher 3 released on a 32GB cartridge...

[@gejamugamlatsoomanam7716]

@@Thelango99 thats the only game that did that. Even Nintendo exclusives come only on 16gb carts. Besides ps5 uses ultra blu ray with 100gb capacity which further shits on switch carts

[@Thelango99]

@@gejamugamlatsoomanam7716 Because those carts cost a LOT more than a blu ray disc does.

[@kingdanett4043]

To be fair naming a company based on a functional company in one of your games is amazing! It sucks they only had Shinra but saying you work for a fictional organization I just lovr

[@lnsflare1]

I mean, there's also the companies from Deus Ex and Remember Me, but that's more of a lateral move rather than an improvement.

[@LilyKazami]

Garden was a corporation as well, though it wasn't nearly as famous as Shinra. There are quite a few options across SE's game library.

[@orangeslash1667]

@@LilyKazami I recommend Legend of Mana on Switch as a Kingdom Hearts substitute. It even has Yoko Shimomura as the composer.

[@Mac_Omegaly]

Then Kingdom Hearts* Cloud version is the 2nd best seller in Japan... YET! Many people are having trouble getting access to the game during peak hours (non peak are office and school hours), making it useless to many people.

[@gejamugamlatsoomanam7716]

Shows people are dumb.

[@supremeoverlorde2109]

Really thoughtful points here. While I do own a Nintendo Switch, I had no interest in this release to begin with since I already bought the collection on PC last year. Now that I'm seeing feedback on it and whatnot, I'm even more convinced that it's just a waste of time and money.

[@S.K.R.E.Inc.]

Does the PC version support the Switch Pro controller?

[@GareBearGamingDood]

@@S.K.R.E.Inc. yep! It supports all controllers, PlayStation controls, Xbox controls, Nintendo controls.

[@TeryJones]

Better off buying the Trials of Mana remake, it actually runs on the Switch and is much more reasonably priced for what it is :3

[@sushantheshreztha8777]

Time to play it in steam deck which would make it really portable! Mostly if u can carry it!

[@TeryJones]

@@sushantheshreztha8777 Screw that complete cop out shit. Either Square stops giving Switch owners the shaft like this or they can just delist the Switch version of Melody of Memories outright and fuck right off! Besides, only a wimp would be so desperate for a _"Better Switch"_ that they'd stupidly pay a goddamn house mortgage just for a cumbersome new age Game Gear that will have all the same bugbears and caveats of PC gaming except now it'll be even harder to replace the hardware as necessary _(if you can even do so at all)._ Probably won't even play Crysis on max settings...

[@SebiTheHunter]

If someone « debunked » that video I wouldn’t believe him, this whole thing is clearly sooo Square Enix

[@tiggerdagamer]

Im so glad that i looked it up before buying it. I would gladly pay 100~$ for the full kh collection on switch despite owning it on ps4 but i wasnt sure what cloud version meant. thanks for the video!

[@beefsound739]

Adding onto this, the reason they came up with for the Cloud versions, according to an interview, was because of storage space. Fucking storage space! On a system with expandable storage! On a system known for physical releases that have a mandatory download for most of the bloody games or collections! With games that would have to be compressed down to work anyway so they wouldn't be 80GB like other versions! It's absolutely nuts. I think your theory is dead on the money, honestly. There has to be more behind this than "We don't think Nintendo Switch owners know what a MicroSD is"

[@EnaTenkiyoGamer]

And those same nintendrones came knocking down ps vita's proprietary mem cards. Show's who is the hypocrite here.

[@yourself1210]

@@EnaTenkiyoGamer you could only use ps vita sd cards on the vita and they were overpriced in my opinion

[@EnaTenkiyoGamer]

@@yourself1210 Yes that I cannot deny but when you hack it and buy a cheaper sd2vita, then it's worth it for that just alone.

[@yourself1210]

@@EnaTenkiyoGamer true

[@DivertingTales]

@@EnaTenkiyoGamer if hacking is the only option to get worth out of your system something might be really wrong with the system….

[@YTSirBlack]

They did Kingdom Hearts on cloud but the Switch can run Nier Automata (no cloud) and KH: Melody of Memory (no cloud too)

[@Dacho_Shaki]

I get the convenience sake when it comes to Cloud gaming, but the technology just isn't there yet. We're like a decade behind for a technology like that to catch up and Switch is mainly a portable device where it already defeats its purpose. It's not like Gamepass where you have a paid monthly subscription service and you can install every game from the list on your drive as long as you pay for that service. And selling the complete package on Cloud for a lot higher price compared to the competition is a dick move from Square-Enix. Just outsource the project to a different company and optimize them to run the HD remasters natively. I'd be happy to pay for it.

[@Blue-fg8vt]

And yet theirs already people worshipping cloud gaming as the "future."

[@martmine4618]

Dont see anyone praise cloud, stadia crashed and burned.

[@Dacho_Shaki]

@@martmine4618 that's why I said the technology isn't there yet. At least not for 10 years from now. Maybe even longer.

[@cyan_2169]

Cloud gaming will never catch up due to a little limitation known as "The speed of light". We will never be able to speed this up, so unless your cloud gaming server is hosted in the next town over, your experience is gonna suck

[@IzThatit]

@@cyan_2169 What games strive to exceed to speed of light with their animations?

[@Hadeks_Marow]

So basically, the reason why this exists is the EXACT plot of inFAMOUS: Second Son? "Job Security"

[@Mac-xz6fj]

I wish they just released the original 1.5+2.5 collection on its own from 3. I was prepared to buy this collection a second time at full price until I tested the demo out… horrible seeing the franchise treated this way

[@LevelWithUs]

Thank you for reminding me why I love your KZbin channel so much :-) editing and humor were on point, and honestly you’ve inspired a lot of the videos on my own channel. Keep up the great work!

[@dutchpotato3557]

Always love how you go one step beyond the current conversation instead of just pointing out the obvious.

[@outlawscar3328]

One could say Sqaure Enix fans are experiencing prolonged Cloud strife.

[@Onionhorse]

My old Windows XP with less than 1 gig of ram could run an old version of the emulator of PCSX2 with KH2FM+ with the partial english patch that released many years ago it just seems that anything outside of Yoshi-P/FF14 is a fucking travesty with this people

[@alsaiduq4363]

Jacob, your my favorite Kingdo Hearts KZbinr even if your not and its more about square enix but kinda not.. Idk you cool and your content is well done.

[@shafaatoo9328]

Remember watching this channel like 7 years ago! Always made quality content

[@zadi10gaming16]

Sad fact is that is actually selling well apparently :(

[@Goremize]

Easy to lie about numbers because somehow literally everything on Earth "Sells well" these days. Unless pure idiots are all buying this cause they are the stupidest people on Earth, its unlikely to sell well.

[@S.K.R.E.Inc.]

In Japan, that is. In the US, there are more sales of the SAO games than this junk (which is saying something, cause those flopped hard when Namco released them)

[@GenericMcName]

Another thing I don't see people mention is that you can easily out-stream the install file size in data. Streaming video is very data intensive, and you could easily spend 2-5 times what an install would take you with streaming 1080p video with sound.

[@User-Ryan135]

You're not factoring in most videos run at 23 FPS with no input from the person watching, Video isn't keeping track of inputs from a third party. The controller. I believe the HD collections also ran at 60fps. so almost triple the Frames being sent, add in inputs to send back along with the data being sent to you. A movie is a one way data stream. Game streaming is two way.

[@aldai2256]

Great video! It was convincing and entertaining all the way through! Your theory at least makes more sense than people blaming it on "lazy developers". Could we please get over that phase already? Btw 5:47 I see someone's been watching some Tim Rogers...

[@indecision6326]

I feel like Square Enix is trying to rediscover the definition of insanity.

[@CyprienCole]

I really don't think anyone can beat cloud gaming. When I go on airplanes I always play games among the clouds with a handheld switch or portable console.

[@GabrielShakkori]

Dude just found your channel and I really love how honest you are with your content.

[@-DeScruff]

I think what also plays a role in this is that with a cloud version, releasing a game on future consoles is beyond cheap. Think about it this way: No need to recompile the game. No need to do post launch bug fixes, the game is running on the exact same hardware in the backend. Any development cost for making a port would be making software to receive the stream. This software gets shared between multiple games that also have "cloud versions" and pretty soon you have an entire library of titles that can be ported for no cost, but still charge full price for.

[@dfquartzidn6151]

Bruh, I didn’t even know this existed.

[@CursedKeyblade1]

so upon further testing the cloud version of KH2 is suspected to be the prepatched pc version. audio doesn't play correctly (trinity major drive and magnet at the same time has audio issues) and thunder is like dubstep thunder

[@grapespace]

I enjoy the way you write/record these videos. The tone you achieve here is really unique in its wit and snappiness. Good job pal

[@roxascross3741]

I feel like “cloud” versions of games shouldn’t be full price but that just me.

[@dustymcwari4468]

They should be way way cheaper, especially because you aren’t even buying the games themselves, but the right to play them on a server, that’ll stream the video to your Switch, with many many factors that can cause hiccups to downright not letting you play the games at all

[@Taneuma_563]

Especially considering KH1+2 are 15+ year old games

[@thinkcarefully5168]

The return of the King

[@thinkcarefully5168]

Watch research runs stuff people

[@Edisonsoccer2]

Fantastic video. Solid jokes, cool info, great length can’t wait for more

[@raze2012_]

Oh way, Jacob's back. That was a fun history lesson. I migh've heard of Shinra back then but I had long forgotten about it. Interesting perspective

[@purplefyrus5370]

Magitech-nologies actually sounds good.

[@janam627]

Not only does the Switch need an adapter for ethernet but its also capped at a download speed of 15 Mbit which is super slow. For comparison: The xbox cloud gaming service recommends you play games with AT LEAST 80 Mbit. There was no way at the beginning of this that it was gonna work fine.

[@cosmosofinfinity]

Dear god... Less than a quarter of Xbox minimum, and at a maximum!

[@SmokeyEdits]

This video popped up at the top of my recommended, and after watching it, I see why. Between the spinny barstool you're sitting on and the quality of the jokes, I know this channel is gonna be good.

[@Rukalin]

Randomly stumbled upon this video, I like your energy

[@CocoHikari583]

Square clearly hasn't heard that the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

[@McMarioG]

I’ve heard that cloud versions of games are released on the switch because they actually work very well in Japan where they have better internet infrastructure. Anybody know how true that is? Could be they just don’t care if it doesn’t really translate overseas.

[@nickyb3800]

I saw people saying that it didn't work that great in Japan either; however, it sold extremely well over there. Guess people are just gonna buy anything KH-related...

[@soragranda]

Have friends in Japan... That bit about the internet speed, nope, not true at all.

[@McMarioG]

@@soragranda That’s a shame. I believed it too because I know they were way ahead of us in terms of mobile gaming on cell phones. I thought maybe that relied on having advanced internet as well to download games over Wi-Fi a few years before it got a big push here.

[@soragranda]

@@McMarioG They have tops speed... But for work and other business, not for entertainment, this is due to how is handled their network connection in their houses, in tokyo and osaka most live in apartments and if the ones aren't renovated at all you can end up with either a latency issues in the connection or just not the whole speed you are paying for, fine for online play, but not there for cloud gaming.

[@McMarioG]

@@soragranda I see. Thanks for sharing.

[@SlyJMan]

We said we wanted Cloud IN Kingdom Hearts 3, not Kingdom Hearts 3 ON cloud.

[@teamblue2431]

Absolute banger video dude! Glad to know that I'll be happy not getting scammed.

[@TheFamilysam]

I could see this definitely happening, like there is no reason for KH1 and KH2 to be a cloud version.

[@charliejenkins3211]

The main thing that Annoys me is the fact that 1.5 2.5 easily would run on Nintendo switch, and if that was the only one in a non cloud form, i think everyone wouldn’t be nearly as pissed Also, the reason I only mention 1.5+2.5 working, is because 2.8 has the massive disadvantage of having 0.2 on it, which is basically a tech demo for kh 3, so it can’t work without being a cloud game, which applies to kh3 as well

[@TheAbsol7448]

Would 0.2 _really_ be that bad? From what I hear, it's a very short game, so they could probably get away with cutting out a lot of the graphical charm.

[@golden_starlight_]

i was watching you ranting about shinra technologies and i finally read the name of the channel. and yes. that sure is a frustrated jacob

[@madnessarcade7447]

Good news from the future They fixed it I bought it the other day I’ve been playing kh1 blind aside from an occasional minor cutscene lag the gameplay and game has been really smooth and great

[@notthea4348]

Now yes but in other countries that's not USA it's very slow even though the internet is very good

[@yaboilettuce7394]

There is also the reality that the engines for KH has never ported well off of their primary platform. The ports of KH on ps3 and ps4 were dreadfully broken. And even when the PS4 code was used to drive the Xbox code the Xbox introduced bugs, and then the PC ports took a really long time to get them playable. So it also possible square didn’t want to pay to port the code to the switch only to have it be broken.

[@alejandro_rodriguez_99]

Do you remember PC Chrono Trigger? You know the port that was a copy and paste from the mobile version.

[@littleboyred1]

​@@alejandro_rodriguez_99 You should take a second to re-read what they said there. PC Chrono trigger, does _not run on KH's original PS2 engine._ Porting from mobile to PC and vice versa is generally insanely easy. KH was designed exclusively for an old console back when console manufacturers were experimenting like crazy, straying as far from standard x86 PC architecture as you can get. Porting something like ain't easy.

[@alejandro_rodriguez_99]

@@littleboyred1 I was talking about copy and paste everything without changing the explication texts, saying things about mobile options in the PC version, like don't turn off your mobile when you save.

[@yaboilettuce7394]

@@alejandro_rodriguez_99 or the crap FF7 and FF8 steam ports. But Square has yet to port Kingdom Hearts (especially 2) without releasing the port with some fairly significant bugs. Likely due to the ps2 based engine just does not translate to the x86-64 platform that modern game consoles and PC’s use. And emulating the PS2 emotion engine is still something that isn’t very light weight and nimble as anyone who uses PSX2 for Kingdom Hearts Rando will tell you.

[@GirlGoneGaming]

Wow, this is how out of the loop I've been on gaming these past few months because I didn't even know it'd come out on Switch until I saw your Twitter post. At first, I was like, oh, a Cloud version? What does Cloud have to do with this? And then I looked it up and I was like 'oh - that kind of cloud'. Anyway, nice to see a vid from you! I always love your expressions when you say something that's just common sense. What's the point of buying for the Switch if you can't even play it on the go? Unless that's your only console but if it's your only console, that's kind of sad. At this point, the PS4 is pretty cheap and has way too many games on it to not be worth buying.

[@DanteToska]

This is my first time watching one of your videos and I wanted to say you look and dress and talk like the manager from Kenan and Kel, which I think is honestly really cool

[@tykarulobano7060]

I appreciate the use of Cloudchasers as your opening bgm

[@TFSned]

The only decent thing SE's cloud gaming brought us were the FFXIII trilogy ports on PC, which were originally designed for the Shinra streaming service. The first two games are pretty rough without mods, but Lightning Returns is a pretty good port and looks beautiful with the colour filter removed.

[@RentingSpam]

I'm a very casual gamer, but I've always wanted to play Kingdom Hearts. But given that I'm a pretty causal gamer and most of the games I like to play are on Nintendo, I have a Switch. And I have a Mac. But given that this release looks so disappointing, I'm almost tempted to one of these days just buy a cheap laptop and a computer just to play this on PC. I had no idea. It makes me sad but I know it's going to sell on the Switch, but it would be cool to see it fail so that maybe they'd invest to releasing it properly.

[@zwillscoopchannel9689]

I just think this is just Square being lazy. Look at it like this if it does well they could just do that with other games. But if it doesn’t do well they can be like you see no one wants these for switch. So from now on we will not bring future games to the switch. So it’s a win win for them but a loose loose for switch users

[@orangeslash1667]

@@zwillscoopchannel9689 I recommend Legend of Mana on Switch as a Kingdom Hearts substitute. It even has Yoko Shimomura as the composer.

[@yan-amar]

Didn't see the conclusion coming. Great video.

[@michaelhowell2809]

I don't know cloud gaming but makes sense lol thank you Jacob

[@Gryzeus]

Great speculation, it's always funny to look back at the ambitious failures in Square's history.

[@furious_malic7808]

Great upload, Jacob. It’s so weird they made the decision to put most of the kh games on the cloud. It absolutely makes sense for kh3 as I do not think the switch can even run that but the earlier ds, and ps2 titles shoudve been very easy to run on the switch if games like devil may cry, resident evil 1, and The Witcher 3 (downgraded I think abit to run on it) can be run on the switch 😅

[@KingBobaFett434]

Maybe they should turn kingdom hearts into a CGI animated tv series and have it air on Disney channel. I’m sure it would become the number one show on Disney channel.

[@S.K.R.E.Inc.]

Too bad Disney channel ain't around anymore. It's all gone to Disney+, which isn't even on Switch

[@KingBobaFett434]

@@S.K.R.E.Inc. Where did you hear that?

[@marcocuda4965]

Enjoyed the chair climbing the building at 2:14 impeccable balance and tbh entertaining af

[@robitussinbrohan718]

Ok, matsuda needs to go. I thought he was a pretty good ceo, but the fact that he supports NFTs and Cloud gaming really tells me that his viewpoints are cancerous.

[@RawPower867]

At least he's better than Wada was. But yes, he needs to go.

[@andrewmon4792]

I live in Canada and recently ordered Kingdom Hearts The Story So Far (all games up to and including 3) for $19.99. Cloud versions are so low effort and deplorable. Would be great if no one bought them, but oh well. Great video, btw. Subscribed

[@ZachPrime]

When I've had this discussion with friends I have taken my firm stance that cloud gaming will never be an option until we have sophisticated quantum computing as a cheap home option. I'm not saying it won't be give it another 20-30 years, I'm just saying that it's not one right now

[@snil4]

And at the point where we have a sophisticated quantum computing at home why don't we just, oh I don't know, run the games on our powerful machines?

[@ZachPrime]

@@snil4 Shhhh, just ignore the redundancy and buy Stadia

[@solfeji]

i see you’ve gone to the tim rogers school of sound effects

[@pepesilvia7527]

Oh my God, shinra technologies is SUCH a bad name. It could only go terribly wrong from there

[@joeyjose727]

Shinra is the most slimy company in video game history Oh and the FF7 shinra was pretty bad too I guess

[@kylewilliams1674]

I like all my games physical man, genuinely owning it feels and looks better. I love seeing my games on a stand. I'll do DLCs though for characters, outfits and different maps and shit other than that I'm not a digital guy or apparently a cloud guy I didn't even know this existed until this video.

[@RozaldVaneGAME]

I'm just waiting for the whole collection to be on Steam and if it works for Steam Deck, this solution of "On the go" would be solved.

[@KnightGamer724]

I'm pretty sure you can use Heroic Launcher to get them on the Steam Deck. Can't confirm how effective it is, though.

[@MadDogSolo]

The best option would just be to emulate the PS2 versions on a modded switch

[@Blizwolf]

As a rabid fan of the series since Chain of Memories for the GBA, I refuse to pay for the cloud version of these games. I tried the demo (not intending to buy) and lemme tell you the constant stuttering, ESPECIALLY during panning shots, actually caused me some eyestrain.

[@ThatBluDude]

"Strife Studios" writes itself

[@RunnyElephant44]

Even the ezio collection fixes the issues square had

[@roasttoast154]

Right to the point, and thank you for reminding people to not buy into this crappy future of cloud gaming. (Buy them anywhere else lol, or #emulate).

[@Coal_the_rock]

If you have the power to emulate just buy the pc ports since they will look way better

[@PhazonEnder]

I mostly agree with your sentiments on cloud gaming. For the majority of people cloud games simply won't work for any number of reasons, but there's nothing wrong with giving people the option and allowing them to make up their own minds on the matter.

[@korinoriz]

It definitely has a place and is a good option to have. However, as it stands now I'm pretty sure there aren't any real big successes with the medium and it's still rather niche. That being said, to be fair, it is still developing after all so that's par for the course.

[@nicholsjonte]

For me cloud gaming is a crutch I've been in the hospital for leukemia for several months I've come back home but I now have no home internet because I can't go back to work so now any Cloud games that I now have are completely useless and I just wasted however much money I just spent on them. This is why 90% of my collection is physical

[@orangeslash1667]

@@nicholsjonte I recommend Legend of Mana on Switch as a Kingdom Hearts substitute. It even has Yoko Shimomura as the composer.

[@WesDoesGames]

Very concise and informative! Hopefully someday we'll get a proper Switch port

[@superflaffers]

Wow, sounds like some real…cloud strife

[@SaberRexZealot]

Nintendo make great games but they’re practises are very anti-consumer and I have no idea why people don’t complain about it more.

[@piersonstone393]

You realize this is a Square Enix choice right? I'm 100% sure if Nintendo was told by SE that we want to put actual digital versions of the games on the eshop they would have been fine with that.

[@SaberRexZealot]

@@piersonstone393 I know, I just wanted to complain about Nintendo too. Selling their older games at a premium and whatnot; Square Enix are just as guilty, overcharging FF7 Remake on PC for a half-assed port.

[@kstplt8010]

Why are complaining about Nintendo in Square Enix video?

[@SaberRexZealot]

@@kstplt8010 because Sora’s in Smash. It’s all connected man!

[@G.L.999]

@@SaberRexZealot Be sure you complain about Sony and Microsoft too. Otherwise, it makes you look and seem biased.

[@pastqr]

I will never support this bullshit. I would have bought a physical or digital copy day 1. I will never ever buy a game thats being streamed

[@captainmario11991]

Damn, it’s good to see you back

[@MystaryTV]

You Are My New Favorite Game Reviewer, The Sarcasm You Bring To The Table Is Amazing 😂

[@yash_kapoor]

Great video Jacob! BTW could you post some of the articles in this video in the description? Would love to read them.

[@SeaWitch99]

I didn't even get past the title screen lol I'm with Plusnet though so I'm really not surprised 😭🤣

[@RolandHazoto]

As a huge KH fan and a Switch owner I was stupid excited and disappointed to read the title of this video (I hadn't heard because I hadn't played my Switch in a couple months) I'm new to this channel but kinda surprised this Jacob guy didn't mention file sizes. The install files for PC (in which we can assume some files are compressed) is over 230GB. I'd think this to be the more likely issue than anything else. It CAN still technically be considered a money issue, since they could in theory pay devs to downsize the games, for whatever that's worth

[@caru9982]

Racing Riku on cloud version would probably make someone kill themself

[@illestvillain8308]

Never thought id be learning about game streaming from Eric Forman

[@michaelkindt3288]

So it’s my guess of “they decided to get experimental, and thought they couldn’t put KH3 on switch any other way anyway”, but with an asterisk that leads to “10”.

[@littlegloom]

i'm guessing another reason that there won't be a physical release, is because of the file size of the collections?

[@aaronlimitless]

So wanted to update, I’m 10 hours in, I have completed quite a few worlds now I just completed Atlanta and I’m about to go to Halloween town. I would say that’s around halfway through the game so overall playing through first day I wasn’t able to play at all server issues wouldn’t connect. The next two days specifically the deep jungle and Alice in Wonderland I would say dorm both times dorn the game I had the notification that big game was being downgraded because of server issues but it didn’t crash. After that going to Aladdin‘s world the whale the little mermaids world I haven’t had a single issue whatsoever so overall maybe besides the first day of the game not working at all I’ve had maybe five or 10 minutes of inconveniencing through the entire game assuming it sticks to that through the next half I can deal with less than half an hour of inconvenience or noticeable graphical drops for that small period of time the game‘s been fantastic so far

[@leoleo4469]

I love how when the video starts, first music I hear is Cloudchasers

[@bellboy7809]

Thanks for the theory, it’s a very good video!

[@billcc7704]

It also stands to reason that development is fairly cheap and easy. Slight retool of interface UI for switch specific details and the game that already ran on your big computer server is now running on switch for the cost of swapping out button graphics.

[@Superfirefox1996]

I'm disappointed because I'm someone who only has a Nintendo Switch, and I've been wanting to try Kingdom Hearts for a few years now. I was so excited when I heard it was finally coming to the Switch, only to hear about how terrible it was on release. Hopefully, something will change for the better.