Frustration DOESN'T End With Yugioh Master Duel!!

[@Gvnrae]

Listening to you rage is very satisfying because I feel the same way to this day

[@eddiethomas405]

U r the only 1 on utube that speak the truth about yugioh plz keep the videos coming

[@SaberWolf94]

Thank you. I'm not done with yugioh yet but I think eventuall I will have to stop if they don't do some retro modes.

[@inebriatedfowl3197]

Really liking your yugioh rants

[@SaberWolf94]

Thanks, I'm glad you do.

[@drchaos1987]

Its not dumb luck. Its torture.

[@randomaccount6146]

The opm thumbnail is very appropriate. At some point the game broke it's turn limiter and players became one turn man.

[@mattingle4286]

The only way to become a better player at this game is to adapt and overcome. Instead of bashing the modern decks, take the time to learn how to use them. Keep an open mind in most cases. Every deck has a weakness, no matter how strong the decks may be. All decks are prone to interruptions, not just weaker decks. Other decks have issues with bricking their opening hands due to requiring specific combo pieces to play their combos straight out. Proper deck building for modern combo decks takes skill, practice, and knowledge. Most of the time, it is a trial and error basis. The biggest thing that Konami has done to increase the overall potential of any deck is releasing newer support cards for combo engines and archetypes. Even the older "rouge" decks have gotten better support to make them more powerful. For example, the Heroes archetype has gotten so much better support over the years, it has now become one of the best fusion based decks of all time. I actually made it to Diamond in ranked duels using Heroes. I recently started practicing with the Synchron/Majestic/Stardust deck and have gotten used to the ins and outs of playing it as well. Dark Magician and Blue-Eyes have gotten better with newer support cards that have been released, even in Master Duel. Also, playing hand traps is a must in the current format. There's no other alternatives to this, unfortunately. Whenever deck building, a player must incorporate hand traps in the main deck list for opponent interactions. Ash Blossom, Impermanence, Nibiru, Effect Veiler, and Called by the Grave are some of the best ones to have. Three words of advice: adapt, overcome, and practice.

[@thelastcrow]

Modern Yugioh is extremely oppressive.

[@Dex-yc9rl]

Before a duel starts you and your opponent could reveal your hands and both of you would know who would win. So you can basically toss a coin. Therefore the entire games consists of buying cards until you have a deck someone else on the internet made because you can't possibly create one yourself since you have to know exactly what the current meta is to be able to counter exactly that otherwise you won't even have a chance. That's not fun for me. I tried the Pokémon tcg recently and it's better in a lot of ways. First you have a rotation system keeping the card pool rather small so that every player has an idea of what cards are going around at the moment. And more importantly at least in the format right now you can't really interrupt your opponent. The only card I can think of that can do that is boss orders ( I think that's what it's called) but even that doesn't completely lock you out of play. But there aren't a lot of cards like that in Pokémon most of the cards only help you make your field stronger but they don't really stop your opponent from making their plays.

[@alatar2015]

This is TORTURE... ...login a game to have fun, and simply waste 10 minutes of your life time, just to be humiliated by a god-complex A-Hole that will win the match in the first turn.

[@duyknguyen]

Gotta Love All Your TCG Contents, keep it up the amazing discussion 🎉 I have full sympathy for your case since i've been there as a new player back to Yugioh myself. However, those combo heavy deck with high ceiling are not actually the top tier cause They Are Extremely Vulnerable To Handtraps. All you need is to replace the Staples (Defensive cards) like Lightning Storm for Spell Speed 4 (Dark Ruler No More alike so they can't negate back) or Fun Handtraps to interact with their summon like Maxx C, Nibiru (which is torrential tribute for all monster on their fifth summon). They actually still get limited number of negates to the 5-6 zones for monster so if you maxx C them and get 2 cards like (Dark Ruler + Raigeki) then you'll crack their puzzle convincingly. I have to agree that It's much more challenging to go 2nd rather than going 1st in Modern and No Where Master Duel has that tutorial or good design in archetypes to "Break impossible Board" compared to the latest sets design with niche effect for going second.

[@SaberWolf94]

No disrespect but this whole "if" arguement has been going since the zexal days. You just reminded me of an old dubkdad1 vid. I know that if you maxx c and draw the right hand traps you can stop Junk Speeder and then their combos MIGHT fall apart. They might still go for a second one etc. That's not the point. The point is it shouldn't happen so EASILY. These effects shouldn't get printed like that. Didn't they learn anything from Soul Charge, Dimension Fusion etc. ? I might not be running those hand traps, or I might be running a few and don't see them. I might be running a lot and don't see them in that moment. The game revolves around EXTREMES. You either win or lose in an extreme way. Your goal is to get an insane set up to win before your opponent plays. In the first place this WHY hand traps are used over traditional trap cards, you gotta have a way to stop the opponent EVEN before you play. Dark Ruler no more and hand traps does not balanece the game or fix it by any means. It just makes it even more luck based, it doesn't change the broken flow of the game, that cannot be fixed at this point.

[@duyknguyen]

@@SaberWolf94 Thanks for the reply and it's all good since we are both being respectful, so don't worry to discuss strongly over the topic. In the end of the day, we both love the same game enough to have strong feeling about it but I would not defend Modern mindlessly for their bad and will not try to persuade you into loving it. As an Edison and Goat format lover and constantly playing it with my group, I completely agree on your points that the game have been too Extreme and way too Fast that A single interaction can already decide the game. I also agree that it's luck based of drawing those Counter Cards (it comes down a different skill for deck building 's percentage to make sure you have 2/5 out of 40 cards be at least 1-2 "Defensive Cards" and even if you don't draw it, it's the randomness of drawing in TCG anyway- Tho I get that it still besides the point). However, I think if you look at it in classic yugioh way, How would you defeat a 3k Blue-eyes on Opp's field without actually having any level 4 monster, you have to stall and draw Raigeki/Dark hole or Mirror force/Man eater bug, right? That's how Dark Ruler or Nibiru, Ash is intended for Spell/Trap in Yugioh to do: "Stop Strong boss monsters with 1 magical card". It's just Modern is too fast so We Can't Stall until we draw it and eliminate its purpose, a LP increase might be essential actually. IMO, the conservative play is best to adjust our current state. I hope we can increase LP to 30k LP or something so we can reserve for next play and still not get OTKed easily (The Old First turn 1 Set monster is enough since Raigeki + 1 Level 4 (2k Atk) won't make you auto-lose the game back then with 8k LP)- imagine we have 2k LP back then we would need those Stoppers like Modern. The game is far from being Good like the OG but i think Konami is actually heading in a right direction to strenthen Going second so "New" archetypes like Rescue-Ace, Unchain can still play VS full board 6-negates without actually Requires to have those "Nibiru-Ash-Dark Ruler" in first hand while NOT having 30 minutes combo line with negates as their ceiling.

[@SaberWolf94]

@@duyknguyen Nobody serious would be summoning a Blue Eyes White Dragon in 2002-2003 formats. Multiple cards could kill, stall and steal big monsters this is why Jinzo was so strong at the time and to a lesser extent Vampire Lord. Listen if you still find some sort of enjoyment for modern yugioh more power to you, to me it doesn't matter what they print the game is completely different from all the eras I consider good not just in the early 2000s. The reality is this, any card game that keeps adding cards into the format without a rotation is gonna get messy, especially with Yugioh adding more summoning mechanics over the years and creating more windows and more combinations for broken combos as soon as you start. I quit around when Zoodiacs came out and I only came back in 2022 to make videos for Master Duel knowing from the start I wasn't gonna last. If they ever add older formats on Master Duel I'll be somewhat ready as I collected a lot of cards when I was active in that game. As you said, we can play older formats like March 2010 and I play other card games too so I don't need to hold on to modern yugioh.

[@DJ2OOREAL]

Lol bro you funny as hell they be summoning way too much 😂😂 smh its ridiculous

[@SaberWolf94]

Thanks, but in all seriousness the modern state of yugioh is not funny.

[@DJ2OOREAL]

@SaberWolf94 yea its not funny at all can't believe they let it get to this point smh

[@SaberWolf94]

@@DJ2OOREAL As long as they keep selling product they don't care. Apparently enough players, perhaps even a majority still accept the game how it is so it works out for Konami but players like me had to get out of it.

[@samuelloveless4637]

This is me the same shit happens what's the point in trying to play second turn win

[@beenblack90]

The problem with Modern YGO is that it is too easy to summon multiple boss type monsters with little to no effort. There is essentially no cost or risk when summoning a 3-4k atk monster with effects that negate your opponents existence. I played 3 games on Master Duel and in all 3 games I lost after 30 minutes (3 or less turns total) due to my opponent summoning a full field of +3k atk/def monsters within 2 or less turns. Modern Day YuGiOh Be like: 1. Special summon into effect, effect triggers second special summon, 2. second special summon being triggered by effect triggers third special summon, 3. 3 cards on the field now becomes link summon, 4. because X monster moved to the graveyard (due to link summon) it triggers 5th special summon from the extra deck, 5. because Extra deck card was special summoned by card effect it triggers 6th special summon, 6. and all this would only be half of the fkn turn, meanwhile, a Normal Summon hasnt even been made yet. Fast forward 10 minutes from this point and its either finally your turn, or you've lost. YuGiOh: Hurry the fuck up and end your turn the card game!

[@Manuelbacon40]

Lmao i love the rant but my dude i never had problems with any of these decks that whooped you in this video the problrm is the deck your playing but i agree with you its dumb that it forces you to play a certain way

[@Mechr8a]

I've honestly never had any issues against this deck. I play Salamangreats and destroy the deck every time I've played it. I just make sure to hold Ash or Imperm for when I see Junk Speeder

[@SaberWolf94]

Make sure? You should apply for a character in the next yugioh anime. If I could always have the ash at the right time then yeah, I'd always stop speeder too.

[@chelseafcfanisy]

Yugioh is just less fun now.

[@SaberWolf94]

Got that right.

[@chelseafcfanisy]

@@SaberWolf94 Hi! Huge fan.

[@SaberWolf94]

@@chelseafcfanisy Thank you, glad you enjoy the vids.

[@Shin_Aniki]

There are plenty of "New" decks that can be fun to play Dinomorphia for example has quick turns and negates without feeling unfair to play against. It's decent without being meta.

[@Sovereign-kh4ng]

Master Rule 7 - You cannot use more then 1 archtype in your main deck and standard cards like Monster Reborn... problem solved. Most of these problems come from being allowed to mix archetypes. There wouldn't be these problems without generics and archetypes are FORCED to play with their designed weaknesses. Get rid of "Engines" and the game gets better overnight.

[@SaberWolf94]

Disagreed and this kills off decks like Tele dad, Hat, Synchro Cat etc. Flowendereese is autopilot by design, doesn't matter if its on its own. This game cannot be fixed because forced rules like these create other problems. I've heard others say "change the rules to 1 special summon per turn" etc. The solution was to not ruin the game in the first place with thousands of broken cards and having a 1-up philosphy instead of a complimentary philosophy when designing cards. Look at the gen 3 pokemon tcg era sets 2003-2007. Closest solution that would work would be rotations but we know that'll never happen.

[@Sovereign-kh4ng]

@@SaberWolf94You can't complain about the game being broken then... because as long as people can do this and mix archetypes at will, the game can NEVER be fixed.

[@SaberWolf94]

@@Sovereign-kh4ng Your solution is flawed that's what I'm getting at. Either way I stopped playing modern yugioh ages ago. I only came back when master duel came out to make videos knowing I wouldn't last for long.

[@Kienzan-qe5nv]

Anyone think they're stacking their decks? Cause I strongly believe so.

[@SaberWolf94]

You don't even need too. As I've said many times if all your cards are searchers and summoners then it's only just math for you to plus 10.

[@shocknawe]

Why didn’t you Lightning Storm “monsters”? You would’ve ruined his Masquarena.

[@SaberWolf94]

It's the opposite. They would just chain Masquarena and go to a Link.

[@shocknawe]

@@SaberWolf94 I forgot whatever she summons gets protection. But, mate, why don't you run Lava Golem and/or Kaijus? Dark Ruler No More is a good one as well.

[@AntonioM95]

@@shocknawe In theory, you are right, but SaberWolf plays decks which are just too bad to face meta decks. His deck needs 2- or 3-cards combos to work. The opponents' decks are based on 1-card combos. Kaijus would just reduce the consistency of his deck, which he just can't "afford".

[@SaberWolf94]

@@shocknawe Why do you assume I'm not running Kaijus? That is only a luck based solution that doesn't always work even when you see them and many decks cannot afford to run cards like that. It pisses me off when people go "why don't you do this, why don't you do that" if I could have every counter at the perfect time it wouldn't real life yugioh but anime yugioh.

[@Elfking94]

​​​@@SaberWolf94I told someone the same thing the other day: he said why don't you run good cards with bad cards? I said; your competitive sounding, you prolly already know: you don't run bad cards with good cards, you only run good cards. Therefore bad decks can never be good decks no matter what is thrown in there. So dumb for decks you actually wanna run

[@ultronsigma2737]

u either makes the old deck playable or let it die to become a fossil so that many new players dig them up like archaeologists (which My BLS deck already become). Ritual has been underrated for years till drytron arrival, changing the concept of ritual summon just to change their mind that Ritual sucks. while red dragon archfiend and blackwing summon an average amount of tuner and non tuners (actually BW a bit more than red thanks to new supports). Synchron is unfair to summon more than that. Evil twin, well they kinda normal to me. i don't like dragon link deck cuz it's bot-like deck. It's frustrating to see your old school favorite deck got no good supports while other olds constantly given.

[@SaberWolf94]

Even before Drytrons Ritual monsters had plenty of good cards and ritual monster archetypes like Nekroz remained strong for years. Cyber Angel cards got released in the tcg in 2016 etc. Konami doesn't care about reminding people anything, they'll just make a broken deck to drive people to buy it. Sometimes it might be fusion cards, ritual cards, synchros etc. doesn't matter it's just rinse and repeat for them. The majority of older archetypes are still useless even with new cards added to them which only proves how broken the game and other cards in the game are.

[@ultronsigma2737]

@@SaberWolf94 since most of players are mindset basically winning at all cost. Only a minority(including me but sure i play meta seldom) don't like meta much. The gap between these players is huge and overwhelming the weaker side. Komoney makes more broken decks for money that's for sure. But it's the players choice to decide to buy it or not and they don't force players to buy it. It's just that our mind are too greedy. At the beginning of Master duel, i already see the fallen of it. I only play the first month then quit as the reward setup is dogshit

[@jstathellis]

No skill auto game only way to save is put a time limit on turns