FS2024: Is It Really Still a Simulator?

[@Tazflyer]

Really great video. Thank you for taking the time and effort IRL and in the MSFS to create a comprehensive comparison. Keep up the great work.

[@dishantlalwani]

i think its the best flight sim we have and as far as some bugs and other issues i think ASOBO will sort it out soon otherwise with the new efb and a330 3d ground textures excellent night lighting and a lot of other improvements from 2020 this sim will be the future for flight simming

[@raymondgoubet]

FS2024 has huge potential. Physics are better than FS2020, and I like the precision landing challenges, even tough being as smooth as possible is artificial, the rules are the same for all. Of course, some bugs are annoying, and this shows it is an unfinished product. What I like with some quirks and bugs is, it puts us in some fault situation where we can often say "this should not happen", but if I try, it's like some failure training. Like the Akureiry landing challenge for me starts with the A320 overspeeding, and screens in the cockpit not working! But with effort, I can land... It helps discover MYSELF. It's like when a crazy failure happens in real life, we can't say "this should not happen!", we have to deal with it. But thinking about all that could go wrong, a lot of things work. They just rushed FS2024 too much. They need completer-finishers to polish it...

[@Miller9016]

Ok at the moments it has various bugs.but i have a lot if fun with the career mode.hope that some things will be fixed soon.otherwise its run great for me.

[@automaton450]

If having missions to fly in the career mode makes it a game, and not a simulator, then airline pilots are professional gamers. lol

[@donwtsn]

Great video mate. I think these sims are great for training. Especially for IFR. Great for cockpit drills and procedures. Personally, I tend to go for spitfires and mustangs for my sims. Like IL2. Which are purely for fun

[@flightfix]

Thanks mate. Haven’t tried IL2 yet, but that might be next on the list. DCS just melted my brain a bit trying to learn the F18 systems 😁

[@donwtsn]

@@flightfixI’ve heard DCS is awesome, haven’t tried it yet but keen. I’m a bit of an old warbird nut. I was lucky enough to have a few goes at the army Blackhawk sim before it was decommissioned. That thing was incredible!

[@philshifley4731]

It's a flight simulator, not an earth simulator. The flight planner and charts are great. However, we also need VFR charts with moving maps. 2020 is history for me just like 3.1 and every version since.

[@flightfix]

Native VFR charts would be nice. I use OzRunways (could do the same with Foreflight) with the xmapsy plugin to have full live access to all VFR charts on my iPad, but subscription costs are a bit extreme if you were only using these in the sim.

[@jcook107]

24 definitely didnt come out as polished as we all hoped. But cant forget, 2020 didnt either. With the marketplace open as you said i think it will improve, the rest is up to asobo. They delivered in 2020, i just hope it doesnt take 4 years ha.

[@FlyIslandGuy]

Exactly...people are acting shocked as if this wasn't exactly what happened with 2020. I deliberately didn't purchase 2024 right away because I knew this was going to happen. Just like 2020, this will become an excellent sim in time.

[@althepsyphros3314]

I think the visuals are like that because they like to make the game feel more appealing. People like bright vivid colours, even if its not realistic. Its a shame. I guess you could try and add shaders and filters to help alleviate it but those runways still stick out like a saw thumb.

[@flightfix]

Yep, absolutely. It’s probably a good move to bring a larger audience in, but I’ve still got my fingers crossed the sim market community can swoop in with a solution.

[@paizonryker7101]

Solution turn saturation down to mute the vibrance... problem solved... AMAZING!

[@ArcanePath360]

Logged many hours now over the last month and I gotta be honest, when I fire it up I'm kind of thinking there's about 20% chance of some kind of bug ruining my experience. Some things are just broken, some things are super impressive and I wonder how they do it. But mostly I just think "Have I got a spare 10 minutes to wait while I fire it up?"

[@flightfix]

Yes spot on! Such a let down after waiting for so long to only find the aircraft textures didn’t load through and now your flying a Cessna 172Potato.

[@ArcanePath360]

@@flightfix I'm flying the Douglas DC3 at the moment but the picture of it just won't load in the box that shows what plane you selected. When selecting some Liveries the plane disappears. These are silly bugs that really should be ironed out by now. I was flying over Chernobyl with it and the sarcophagus is laughable. It's a flat building about 1 story high. The whole plant looks nothing like it does IRL. And they have smoke coming out of the smoke stacks and cars driving around like a populated city, lol. Someone should tell them

[@MattMatheson]

Of course the colors are muted when compared to a go pro that hasn’t been color corrected.

[@flightfix]

Yep, good colour correction would make a pretty difference but I still think that FS2020 colours are much closer to what the naked eye would see.

[@ThatCanadianGuy-e1p]

The real flight, looks more like 2020.

[@alistair676]

I never really felt the same realism as P3D with A2A and mods. I wish they had not focused so much on being a game and the xbox. Being able to go outside your plane and do inspections is really nice though

[@automaton450]

Yep, first and foremost an xbox app, the UI is designed to be navigated with an xbox controller, mouse support is added on. Also why shockingly you cannot cancel out of any menu, only SAVE and exit, so if you want to undo any changes, you better remember what was set beforehand.

[@laihimchan8540]

the roads is blur and never have people in the city ,it is very unreal ah ,when you fly to city ,why can not see people in there ah ,i mean not you walk around in there but have more people in the street ,so isit real ?

[@laihimchan8540]

but i see the scenery is still far behind realistic

[@laihimchan8540]

no is realism it needs very high end comuter to make ,at least is rtx 4080 gpu so is very experienve

[@jay-rus4437]

Its unfortunate that it seems MSFS is shifting direction toward “gaming”, instead of away from it. We didnt need a walking sim. We didnt need migrating animals. We didnt need forced walk around to remove covers that DO NOT exist IRL for airliners etc. We didnt need ridiculously overdone robotic voices in required training missions. This sim has so much potential, but they are simply focused on the wrong things

[@1956guillermo]

You are 100% right. This is just another game for the coach potatoes...all the people that are trying MSFS 2024 or even 2020 with an Xbox are not people that love aviation, they are just gamers...

[@darnedghost2008]

MS2024 all the way

[@speedbird8326]

I'll give FS2024 one thing, for a "flight simulator", it sure does an awesome job of simulating giraffes and deer. The truth is MSFS2024 is an utter bug-ridden disgrace. From the disastrous launch, when they should have known about server loads, to the hundreds and hundreds of bugs in the program. Airports missing terminals, entire airports missing, aircraft with wings missing, avatars hanging upside down out of flying aircraft, blurry terrain, CTDs etc etc. It's utterly pathetic. They rushed it out and they knew it wasn't ready. It's going to take at least a full year before it's even close to fixed, if ever. If you're wondering who the beta testers are, it's the people who bought this joke of a program. I got a refund as I won't reward their incompetence and I won't pay for the privilege of being a beta-tester.

[@197jm]

Do you comment this on every video, or is it copy and pasted? I feel like I've seen this before LOL

[@speedbird8326]

@@197jm Yes I comment this on every FS2024 video to warn people how bad this is. If people still want to buy this crap, well, it's on them.

[@laihimchan8540]

i think is aircraft is more teal but the scenery is still poor cannot compare to real , real world have people but it is less

[@laihimchan8540]

the roads and house is too toys ah

[@Steve211Ucdhihifvshi]

Its a buggy overpriced beta "GAME" None of the aircraft are interesting or stand out. They are allllll boring and arcade like. For example, work with King Airs, FS is nothing like the real aircraft. Nothing. Its a sad experience.

[@johnjacobsen4003]

YES! Finally someone speaking up about this bundle of garbage! ARCADE GAME 100%.

[@1956guillermo]

And what I don't understand is that lots of guys that posted beautiful and great videos of MSFS 2020 where we were able to learn, now they are posting how to cheat on the career mode and how to find elephants and giraffes...

[@speedbird8326]

@@1956guillermo What a joke. It's pathetic. Good if you're a 14 year old Xbox gamer dude.