LeBron Fan Reacts! | Jordan v LeBron: The Most Pathetic Debate in Sports History

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@FTBREACTS
@FTBREACTS 5 күн бұрын
It’s starting to get HARD to build a case for Bron as the goat lol!! I’m reaching!! 😂 don’t judge me..Also what should we check out next #FTB🔥
@hattorihanzo5038
@hattorihanzo5038 5 күн бұрын
You misunderstood when he said Pippen was the lone all star he played with in Chicago. Pippen was the only active allstar he played with while in Chicage. Rodman was on his way out the league before he come to Chicago and was only and allstar in Detroit and Horace grant became an allstar in Orlando after he left the Bulls. So technically he is correct, pippen was the only active allstar he played with on a Jordan led team.
@MrMoebetter3434
@MrMoebetter3434 5 күн бұрын
He was stating the teams and their records not individuals that's the problem with Lebronians you guys sensationalize lebrons opponent and Dennis Rodman wasn't with the Bulls when he was an all star Rodman joined the Bulls in 96 sorry keep reaching
@albalunico1313
@albalunico1313 5 күн бұрын
@@FTBREACTS I can go further look at viewership and NBA ratings when Jordan played from the time he got drafted from 1984 till 98 compare viewership and NBA ratings from the time LeBron hit the league in 2003 till now in 2024 then tell me you think lebron is still the goat oh and how many All-stars has lebron played with how many trades has he been involved in there's videos out there that will answer those questions oh and by the way Jordan has the most accolades in NBA history with 37 compared to lebron's 19 dig in the rabbit hole if u want on Jordan u will find urself highly disappointed in lebron
@ryantromp9152
@ryantromp9152 5 күн бұрын
@@FTBREACTS you have to do: in search of the best Individual season in the NBA history.
@kornissuse4613
@kornissuse4613 5 күн бұрын
Been a Lakers fan for 40+ years. And I must say Leflop is a disgrace to the Lakers. Your mega superstar hasn't won the Lakers a legitimate chip. And it's so freaking sad that they wasted a 2nd round pick for trash! Because of who daddy is. Nevermind that this LaBum can't even fill Kobe's bro. So to even think of comparing him to (The Goat) "MJ" is delusional. What has your so called goat done for the Lakers organization!? This generation of fans are delusional AF😂
@Chill1Ez
@Chill1Ez 5 күн бұрын
You only consider James opponents harder because he lost.
@Dshatila1983
@Dshatila1983 Күн бұрын
Facts
@monster-cu4gj
@monster-cu4gj 6 күн бұрын
I only watch these reactions to marvel at how LeBron's fans stumble all over themselves trying to deny the undeniable. 🤣
@jefferymursier5466
@jefferymursier5466 4 күн бұрын
The best, the rebuilts ha ha ha😂
@Eversee143
@Eversee143 5 күн бұрын
Rodman wasn't even in Chicago during his All-Star seasons. He was literally one of the Bad Boy Pistons beating up MJ and Scottie in the paint. During MJ's championship runs, he only had 1 All-Star teammate in Scottie Pippen. And during his first and last championship runs, Pippen wasn't even an all-star. MJ carried a team as the lone all-star in 91 and 98.
@tendousouji14344
@tendousouji14344 Күн бұрын
this is very simple.... MJ's team started from scratch. they have to develop. the coaching team have to develop. (you may also wonder why they fired doug collins when they are reaching conference finals and put the zen master instead but it is on another topic) when the team reached their potential they are unstoppable. if you would really try to watch mj's game he is not a ball hog as what everyone is saying. he would let his team do their thing first and he will see who can help the team win. but if he cannot see it he would take the matter on his own hands. as for Lebron, he goes and create teams with players who are already established stars. you may watch AOH's breakdown as well who are his different teammates and how established they are before they team up with lbj kzbin.info/www/bejne/mXa5eq2sntRomLM
@Eversee143
@Eversee143 21 сағат бұрын
@@tendousouji14344 Why are you sending me this? I already know this information. In case you haven't noticed, I'm literally making a case for Jordan being the GOAT for actually carrying his team to 6 rings, 2 of which he was a lone all-star.
@tendousouji14344
@tendousouji14344 20 сағат бұрын
@@Eversee143 sorry for misunderstanding my comment. I am agreeing to your post. just a complement in your stand why MJ is the goat
@Eversee143
@Eversee143 20 сағат бұрын
@@tendousouji14344 OHHHHH!!! Understood. Have a nice day.
@matthewstewart2377
@matthewstewart2377 6 күн бұрын
labron fans hate facts
@xbox627
@xbox627 5 күн бұрын
Skip Bayless as well is a delusional person who speaks in feelings rather than facts
@Poetryinnonmotion
@Poetryinnonmotion 5 күн бұрын
​@@xbox627 Can u prove that though?
@markcruz8952
@markcruz8952 4 күн бұрын
Obviously 6 finals Mvp 6 chips are facts...am I right let alone 3 steals title and 10 scoring titles....am I lying when I said those crowns?
@hud1231
@hud1231 4 күн бұрын
@@xbox627 what has skip say that was delusional?
@robertmiles1132
@robertmiles1132 4 күн бұрын
Jordan being the quote on quote greatest scoring didnt make it to 40k ​@markcruz8952
@jestoniarco2306
@jestoniarco2306 6 күн бұрын
Longevity is not enough to be a goat 🤣 Whats the definition of greatness to you? Btw.. you say that todays era was more dominant scorers and 80's to 90's era was good in defense, so why no one can surpass the PPG of jordan in todays era? With no defense?
@wallflowerj6013
@wallflowerj6013 6 күн бұрын
His dad was murdered and his dad loved baseball
@JIX9ISLER1986
@JIX9ISLER1986 5 күн бұрын
Lebron is not Top 5 Media brainwashing and propaganda is strong skap does excellent work putting Lebron into proper CONTEXT……lebron fans hate context
@SirPorter
@SirPorter 6 күн бұрын
Did you say that MJ's whole starting 5 was hall of famers? That's funny. He played with 3 people who were inducted into the hall of fame. Pippen, Rodman, and Kukoc (Inducted as an international player). The "Inducted as an international player" is significant because it's based on his contributions to the game internationally and not because of how he performed as a member of the bulls or while in the NBA. As a comparison, Lebron has played with Dwayne Wade, Shaquille O'neal, Ray Allen, Chris Bosh, and Ben Wallace who have already been inducted and these players who are widely recognized will be inducted soon: Anthony Davis, Kyrie Irving, Dwight Howard, and Russell Westbrook. It's not even close
@seekwsdom
@seekwsdom 5 күн бұрын
Don't forget Melo!
@SirPorter
@SirPorter 5 күн бұрын
@@seekwsdom facts!!!
@kavonterry5782
@kavonterry5782 5 күн бұрын
Don't forget Derrick Rose n Rajon Rondo
@robertmiles1132
@robertmiles1132 4 күн бұрын
Yall are bringing up russell westbrook that's how you know that agruement is horrible for Jordan For 1 Jordan had his hall of fame players when they were still valuable options considering melo Howard rondo played all of 3 more Seasons Howard was over and that's obviously russell westbrook Kyrie wouldn't be a hall of famer without bron Ad barely sneaks in with lebron So proper context added you sound so crazy
@SirPorter
@SirPorter 4 күн бұрын
@@robertmiles1132 that's real weak. i'm just using the criteria buddy used in his video against LeBron. Bottom line is Bron has had more help throughout his entire career than MJ and won less. Period. End of story.
@SirPorter
@SirPorter 6 күн бұрын
Do you really want to count people who were all stars on different teams before or after playing with Jordan or LeBron? That's gonna make it worse for Bron.
@DanYeLL2003
@DanYeLL2003 4 күн бұрын
I was thinking the same thing.
@robertmiles1132
@robertmiles1132 4 күн бұрын
​@@DanYeLL2003really interesting yall are using the most irrelevant accomplishment to make your point was better a hall of famer or and all star oh ok Jordan played with more hall of famers not only that jordan was bounced 1sf round while having a 20 ppg scorer on his team until Jordan got warriors level team he was getting dog walked stop it bodies
@alfuller1332
@alfuller1332 5 күн бұрын
They were WAAAYYYY better in the 90's.
@lawrencehuff6608
@lawrencehuff6608 6 күн бұрын
Rodman didn't go to the Bulls till 95...Jordan won 3 without him and he was NEVER an allstar while playing with Bulls...
@rqu3-b2m
@rqu3-b2m 5 күн бұрын
Jordan is the GOAT 🐐
@leptonparticle238
@leptonparticle238 5 күн бұрын
Rodman made his all star appearances NOT when he played with Jordan. He didn't count Lebron's all star teammates that were not all stars when playing with Bron
@tonyt888
@tonyt888 6 күн бұрын
Rodman was never an all star playing with the bulls.
@tonyt888
@tonyt888 6 күн бұрын
today's player will not get the same buckets playing in the 80's or 90's. most of them will be bench players. only thing they can do is shoot threes. no low post skills. won't be able to handle the hand checking. no flagrant fouls in the 80's.
@goodfellabeats
@goodfellabeats 5 күн бұрын
Sorry, I lose respect for anyone who says "this generation has better competition". As if Jordan didn't have to play against Larry Bird, Magic Johnson, Hakeem, Isiah Thomas. The people who say this never really watched these other players so they don't know how good they were. People forget that MJ averaged 37 ppg one year. The rules now give the offense the advantage. The spacing in the NBA makes it so easy to score which is why scores are in the 130s everynight. If you placed Jordan with the amount of skill he had in this league where the rules favor the offense and he has the kind of space to work he would average 50-60 easy. Even players like KG who played against both Bron and MJ have said this.
@Schiltzenberger
@Schiltzenberger 5 күн бұрын
Rodman wasn't an All Star when he played with Jordan. In fact, the Bulls only got him because no other team would take him, the Spurs took Will Purdue for Rodman in a trade. He was on the scrap heap, his career might've been over if the Bulls didn't trade for him.
@teamgill1
@teamgill1 5 күн бұрын
He isn’t messing around with the numbers
@coreyrees840
@coreyrees840 5 күн бұрын
90’s player are better than todays players point blank. The guys today are more athletic on avg, but don’t have a clue how to actually play. Ball IQ trumps athleticism all day everyday ask Bird, Joker and Luka 🤷🏻‍♂️
@MartellJordan
@MartellJordan 6 күн бұрын
He didn't have those hall of famers when he won his first 3 championships so, saying he only won because he of hall of famers is false seeing as how he only had Scotty pippen that first time around while lebron has specifically has surrounding himself with people that he felt would get him his championship titles and he still is only just now reaching Jordans highest after spending far longer in the league 😅 Like why wouldn't he eventually reach those stats if he's still playing without any retirements like, why is that even something to Bragg about as a fan if he couldn't do the same thing in the same amount of time, now if he had or, done so in a shorter period of time that would honestly be understandable
@Poky-65
@Poky-65 5 күн бұрын
For the sake of an argument, this is not high school stuff or thinking. At the NBA championship level, you have the beat the competition in front of you. Lebron has never created a dynasty, nor has he dominated any era of basketball, nor is any of his championship teams in the top five of greatest teams in NBA History. In just 13 years MJ won all of his collected trophies and accolades GAME OVER. I Guess MJ being the GOAT is why he didn’t need any superteams to have such an impressive career resume.
@teamgill1
@teamgill1 5 күн бұрын
Dude your talking about the 2nd 3 peat with those guys lol
@johnhaynes4969
@johnhaynes4969 5 күн бұрын
Gotta listen young man. The commentator said made the all star team on a Jordan led team. So yeah that 1 was Pippen. Your own quick search said Rodman made the all star team in the early 90’s …. He didn’t play with Jordan until ‘96.
@zakkg5497
@zakkg5497 5 күн бұрын
You really should first read, study, watch more before making any sound comment! Rodman played with the Bulls and MJ for three seasons '96-'98 when he was one of the best rebounders and defenders but nowhere near an all-star! Not to mention he was 35+ years old when he joined the bulls! As for the competition let's not forget that MJ played in an era of duos not super-teams! Why is Lebron's competition harder when it has the same amount of superstars(3) as your team does? And one other thing: people consider a great amount of players great just because they won titles during Lebron's era while at the same time dismiss a great amount of greats just because they never had the chance to win a title during MJ's reign! And that's the difference between winning a title and going to the finals! You would speak quite different in regards of Clyde, Barkley, Ewing, Kemp, Stockton, Malone had they ever won a title!
@slammerkirt
@slammerkirt 5 күн бұрын
Whats the purpose of this video if you just gonna deny fact? are you incompetent?
@brucec9600
@brucec9600 6 күн бұрын
“Over who” you said when you asked about MJ shooting over Brian Russel for his 6th chip. …. Wasn’t is Jason Terry who showed LeBronda up in the finals? With respect if you want to compare MJ’s and LeBronda’s finals resumes you’re going to lose.
@michaelwatson266
@michaelwatson266 5 күн бұрын
Rodman wasn't an all-star while he played with Jordan. That was the point of the stat.
@murderorgy2995
@murderorgy2995 5 күн бұрын
Ive never understood this debate
@alexzapf6422
@alexzapf6422 5 күн бұрын
It’s facts not opinion. Look at the numbers. And. Yes. Kluth sports tried to diminish other players to uplift Lebron. Sad.
@teamgill1
@teamgill1 5 күн бұрын
Dude there is no defense in today’s game lol….you young bucks are clueless
@oscarjimenez4806
@oscarjimenez4806 5 күн бұрын
Better athletes doesn't always come out to better players.
@michaelwatson266
@michaelwatson266 5 күн бұрын
Very solid point guard who always makes the best plays? He has the most turnovers in NBA history.
@JulienLaussu
@JulienLaussu 5 күн бұрын
😅😅😅😅😅😅😂😂😂😂 Leflop James has the most turnovers in NBA History by far!!!! He also has the most missing shots All the bronsexual is liar as you
@eztyoung5467
@eztyoung5467 5 күн бұрын
Rodman wasn't all star on the bulls 😂😂😂 clown lbj fans smh 😂😂😂
@jamesprez7296
@jamesprez7296 5 күн бұрын
Actually only lie was him saying he had an all star 6 times. Pip was an all star 4 times in their championship run.
@brucec9600
@brucec9600 6 күн бұрын
Pay attention - what he was saying was Pippen was an All Star WHILE playing with MJ. Rodman was an All Star but not while he was playing with MJ.
@albalunico1313
@albalunico1313 5 күн бұрын
So beating a team one time out of the four times you played them so that's better then being the juggernaut yr after yr after yr
@nickgleeson7168
@nickgleeson7168 5 күн бұрын
Wtf 10 consecutive scoring titles 😳 it's just not close 😂😂😂😂
@schumakew
@schumakew 5 күн бұрын
Then he said he a facilitator... being the all time turnover record holder 😂🤣😭
@BixBy-u5w
@BixBy-u5w 3 күн бұрын
while having more All-Defense selections, 1 DPOY, and 3 more steals title
@nickgleeson7168
@nickgleeson7168 3 күн бұрын
@BixBy-u5w my point exactly
@windingroad9196
@windingroad9196 5 күн бұрын
I'm sorry but the idea that Jordan retired from basketball so that he could go play baseball is absurd. There's a vital piece of information missing from that explanation. He'd retired from basketball because his father was murdered and left on the side of the highway. Baseball is just what happened in the end.. well, before the end, if you will. Edit: some would argue he took this hiatus because he was in trouble for gambling. Either way, the death of his father is the reason in the media why he retired from basketball that first time.
@McCourt.
@McCourt. 6 күн бұрын
Rodman was never an all star on the bulls
@alexzapf6422
@alexzapf6422 5 күн бұрын
Watch a video by danger productions and get some more knowledge. Lebron shoots below 35 percent outside of three feet. He has a losing finals record. Plays no defense. Throws teamates under the bus. And gets coaches fired. The facts don’t lie. It’s Jordan. Then everyone else. Jordan almost always played all 82 games plus playoffs led a college team undefeated against nba teams leading up to the Olympics. Also. Jordan kept hall of famers from getting a ring. While Lebron recruited hall of famers to win a ring. Also. The Jordan era was way tougher than it is now. Jordan world acreage 50 easily with the new rules.
@durrellchristian1809
@durrellchristian1809 5 күн бұрын
EVRY PLAYER IN THE LEAUGE AGREED - You have to kick punch trip MJ with all 5 of player at the same time!!!! or he torch all of you - No TEAM could stop him with out cheating.....before he even won his first championship
@alfuller1332
@alfuller1332 5 күн бұрын
Showing footage that the mainstream media won't show is not hating! LeBron greatness is a marketing ploy by the league, he is not him.
@ryantromp9152
@ryantromp9152 6 күн бұрын
Nice ps He played Baseball due that his father always wanted him to do so ( he tried after his father was killed ) if not mistaken
@davidedmondson1335
@davidedmondson1335 6 күн бұрын
Bro you don't know what you're talking about
@psykloneja
@psykloneja 5 күн бұрын
He's not saying Rodman wasn't an All Star. He said he wasn't an All Star while playing *on a Michael Jordan led team*. Rodman was an All Star in '90 & '92. He joined the Bulls in 1995. Pippen was the only player who was an All Star while playing with the Jordan led Bulls.
@javonJennings
@javonJennings 5 күн бұрын
I think people should watch full games of Jordan playing to get a better idea of what we witnessed.
@robertmiles1132
@robertmiles1132 4 күн бұрын
The problem isn't not knowing what he did or seeing some of it the problem is lebron is better overall player better passer and rebounder add 40 k points the most playoff points not only that but he did it while being the main playmaker for the teams he played on 6 is great but a chip per franchise is crazy work beating the 73 9 warriors while being 3 1 which is the most pressure you could possibly face and gave the a reverse sweep Jordan only made the finals 6 times and only when he had a super team bron with and without super teams bron put in the work
@alexzapf6422
@alexzapf6422 5 күн бұрын
When Miami faced the mavs with Lebron. Take a look at this stat line. Lebron in his prime. Jason terry. 18 pts. Per game/50 percent Lebron. 17.8 pts. Per game/48 percent. This is terry at the end of his career. Greats do not choke.
@oscarjimenez4806
@oscarjimenez4806 5 күн бұрын
Rodman was a Piston at that time
@brucec9600
@brucec9600 6 күн бұрын
He didn’t get Rodman or Kukoc until his second 3Peat
@phillipfreely2226
@phillipfreely2226 6 күн бұрын
Jordan took like 3-4 years off to play baseball, cause he got bored
@phillipfreely2226
@phillipfreely2226 6 күн бұрын
Ok 2 years.
@phillipfreely2226
@phillipfreely2226 6 күн бұрын
So 5 less years than LeBron
@phillipfreely2226
@phillipfreely2226 6 күн бұрын
Nah bro. He took a break and came back and won 3 more
@phillipfreely2226
@phillipfreely2226 6 күн бұрын
Neither was LeBron. I took him going to the Heat.
@MartellJordan
@MartellJordan 6 күн бұрын
I can absolutely disagree with that,the 90's NBA was far more physical and, less restrictions, you didn't get calls for every move made like you do now, you could get more rough with your opponents without being set on the bench for a foul this or a foul that which allowed them to keep playing, now using today's playing system where everything is a foul and anything can get you sat out, the player's from the 90's would have free range to score without the worry of being fould or set out they would have more of an opportunity to score higher.
@alexzapf6422
@alexzapf6422 5 күн бұрын
Old school players did not need a father step or help to score. They simply adapted. Go and watch video check the all star games of the past. It is kit even close. You want to concentrate on one playoff series. Look at the whole career. Jordan did more in less time than anyone ever.
@lorenzo3213
@lorenzo3213 5 күн бұрын
Oh bro! Bron's a great a player but nowhere near Mike haha
@josephmoore3656
@josephmoore3656 5 күн бұрын
Wilt Jordan Kareem Magic Duncan Bird Kobe Steph Iverson Lebron
@meylon257
@meylon257 6 күн бұрын
You are wrong about so many things, Rodman only joined Chicago the season after Michael came out of retirement. No player in history has statistics like Michael, the league trembled with him compared to LeBron who doesn't really scare players today, Michael was the perfect defense and offense no matter what role he played I suggest you watch more videos of Michael to understand his greatness and why there will never be another like Michael
@SirPorter
@SirPorter 6 күн бұрын
Good video bro. I wish you nothing but success.
@CTBSlash0509
@CTBSlash0509 Сағат бұрын
This generation can't comprehend anything these days. Rodman was not an ALL-STAR during his Bulls years
@truthtransistorradio6716
@truthtransistorradio6716 5 күн бұрын
Jordan was on the Bulls before Scottie got there. Young Jordan got the Bulls into the playoffs before Pippen arrived.
@valtercouto9838
@valtercouto9838 5 күн бұрын
James and his fans disgust me
@whenisdinner2137
@whenisdinner2137 17 сағат бұрын
The only reason people big up lebron's opponents is because they actually beat him 😂😂😂
@DanYeLL2003
@DanYeLL2003 4 күн бұрын
Jordan was playing great with the Wizards up until he got hurt. Pippen joined the Bulls in 87, two years after Michael. The bulls didn’t start winning until Jordan hit the gym and got bigger so he could take all the hits, punches, and pushing from other players and when Phil Jackson introduced the triangle offense. Rodman was at the end of his career with the bulls. Literally no other team wanted Rodman. If Michael hadn’t talked the bulls into getting Rodman he would barely be remembered and he definitely wouldn’t be in the hall of fame. Rodman was not an all star during his time with the Bulls. During 90-91 he was not playing with the bulls. Jordans competition in the finals was very very hard. Those games were very close.
@timgray3790
@timgray3790 5 күн бұрын
He played baseball to honor his dad who was killed
@timgray3790
@timgray3790 5 күн бұрын
Jordan didn’t play the warriors because he was the warriors by himself
@derrickhyman6614
@derrickhyman6614 4 күн бұрын
Rodman was not an all star when playing with Jordan....He was an all star before playing with Jordan
@Out-Of-Service
@Out-Of-Service 5 күн бұрын
Rodman was not an All Star while playing with Jordan, which is what he was saying. Only Pippen made the All Stars while playing with him.
@tweedz4356
@tweedz4356 5 күн бұрын
Jordan played with ONE All-Star his entire career 😂
@alexzapf6422
@alexzapf6422 5 күн бұрын
Rodman was not an all star when he played with Jordan. All the all stars Lebron played with. We’re all stars when he played with them. Period. So while Rodman. Was a two time all star it wasn’t when he was with the bulls. Also. Jordan had a total of 20 all star player caliber play with him in his career. While Lebron had 124 total all star appearance player play with him during his career. Numbers do not lie. Again. Watch the video by danger productions. It breaks the numbers and facts down and shows reality. Not talking points.
@windingroad9196
@windingroad9196 5 күн бұрын
Saying that 40 yr old Michael Jordan as a Wizard wasn't the player he was as a Chicago Bull is also absurd. If you didn't witness it, I don't know how you can have a comment. 40 year old Jordan was puttin the hurtin on guys. He even diminished the number one overall pick by the Wizards just by making him practice with him in one-on-one workouts, emasculating him the whole way. I don't know why we have to keep telling you kids... Michael Jordan wasn't a nice guy.
@jon2323
@jon2323 4 күн бұрын
People keep saying this generation has better offensive skills and more athletic, but they don’t talk about the weak defence they face. If 5hey are so athletic, then why are these players load managing and still gets injury prone. And don’t forget, the best player in the league right now is not a very athletic player, remember the joker?! So don’t tell me the players today can beat the player of yesterday!!!
@tendousouji14344
@tendousouji14344 Күн бұрын
and remembered he retired because he knows he has nothing to prove anymore. but he got back and proved that he can do it all over again
@BixBy-u5w
@BixBy-u5w 3 күн бұрын
Scottie led the post-first 3peat Bulls not the drug infested Bulls that MJ inherited.
@jeremydenney9537
@jeremydenney9537 3 күн бұрын
Did you just say the bulls starters were hall of famers? What? MJ and Scottie are the only bulls that made all stars in MJs whole career!
@wattwatkins3574
@wattwatkins3574 6 күн бұрын
My man you have zero clue throwing out fake facts... 5 HOF lol... He had one other allstar his entire career... Just Pippen.. If you knew the game, you would talk about rule changes over everything else. Why fans stop watching with this cupcake league that is losing views and season ticket holders at an alarming rate... You can always spot the fanboys. That isn't what happen with rule changes. The only rule they added was t's for hard fouls then 2003 they added no hand check then added defensive 3 seconds and later Curry rules no checking player going through the lane... You have been sheepled son with your bad takes.. Do your own research and stop listen to clutch sports
@nabzestorco7885
@nabzestorco7885 5 күн бұрын
Truth really hurts. Just accept it!
@Ai-news83
@Ai-news83 5 күн бұрын
any sport in their early years is harder than any sport now
@lebarbosa9778
@lebarbosa9778 5 күн бұрын
Rodman was like 37 when he played for the Bulls
@OHWELL1968
@OHWELL1968 5 күн бұрын
No Debate, No Comparison, Not even close , MJ Is the Goat !! Smh
@truthtransistorradio6716
@truthtransistorradio6716 5 күн бұрын
The one thing Jordan has above all is his competitive nature! Every second of practice was a competition for him! Lebron is a more gifted athlete than Jordan was in some ways. He is bigger and stronger than Jordan. Jordan had speed and made adjustments in the air that were insane.
@Philthorn
@Philthorn 5 күн бұрын
Rodman was never an all-star with the bulls, so technically no, he's not capping (he was a helluva rebounder, but still not an all-star until he left the bulls) So yeah, it was only MJ and scottie
@BixBy-u5w
@BixBy-u5w 3 күн бұрын
There shouldn't be a debate at all. And if there is, it already ended in 2011.
@curtayars7344
@curtayars7344 6 күн бұрын
Jordan had Rodman and Kukoc for 3 years bro and the only Hall of Fame player he played with from 1988-93 was Scottie Pippen!! Before that he had zero help, so you need to go ahead and educate yourself cuz your "facts" are so far off it's not even funny!! Rodman averaged 4 points a game and Kukoc wasn't even a starter for most of the Bulls 2nd 3pt. Stop it
@timgray3790
@timgray3790 5 күн бұрын
Btw Jordan’s bulls won 72 games. The 80’s and 90’s was far more skilled. Rodman never won an all star as a teammate
@hapishuco.2446
@hapishuco.2446 5 күн бұрын
Not true, before his meniscus tear Jordan was averaging 25 on the wizard. His 2nd season he played 82 games. He's the 🐐 forever.
@coreyrees840
@coreyrees840 5 күн бұрын
Pippen was the ONLY teammate to ever make an all star team. you looked up seasons Rodman DIDNT play with Jordan lol you looked up his pistons seasons 🤣. He’s talking all stats on THOSE seasons WITH bron and MJ.
@kevinjones7395
@kevinjones7395 5 күн бұрын
A couple of things. No one acts like the Wizards years didn't happen. What y'all can't seem to accept is the context of that time. MJ bought the cheapest valued team in the league, with worst attendance in the league, which was thee reason he suited up. He is still the greatest draw the league has ever seen.
@jca4343
@jca4343 5 күн бұрын
I will also make the case that part of the reason todays players are better scorers is BECAUSE the defese is easier. If the players today had to go against the way the defense was played back in the day they their offense wouldnt be as good.
@kevinjones7395
@kevinjones7395 5 күн бұрын
Com'on man. There is no such thing as a bad 60 win team. And beating the Warriors one time, is not enough to carry Lebron to the greatest. It's 1 series out of 4. ONE.
@patrickrahner1182
@patrickrahner1182 5 күн бұрын
I do not get your point at minute 14... First of all Basketball is not all about scoring, so the stat with the winning percentage of teams does not even referr to scoring. You always have to compare the aera the guys play in. And if you face a 50-60 win team in the 80s or 90s it is a very good team in that aera. If you play a 40 win team in the 2000s then it is a not so good team. Of course you can always come up with the argument that there are better scorers or athletes nowadays but what about other sports? Is the greatest sprinter of all time always the one with the world record? Or could someone who ran 100m under 10s and dominate this race for 20 years (just an example) be the best sprinter ever because he just dominated for such a long period. It can never be fair to try to put MJ into todays NBA and say he could not do this or that. We do not know that and if we know one thing then that he might be able to adapt. Earlier you said, that it was not easy to score back then, so what is 30 points from Jordan on a team that has like 100 points in total compared to 27 points from lebron on a team that scores 110 or 120 points? How many points would Jordan score today with all the training methods and whatever? Of course he could have 40. If not, he might also have 3-4 steals or 8-10 assists... Jordan could do what was needed to win... Sorry for my english. Hope everybody understands what I mean... To be fair: Lebron is a phenomenon for being such an elite player for such a long time but in my opinion his peak has never been near Jordans peak. He ist great and I do not want to take anything away from him. I do not want to start saying he is not even top 5 and all that shit. He will retire as one of the greatest players this game has ever seen. But to me he is just not the GOAT.
@patrickrahner1182
@patrickrahner1182 5 күн бұрын
Talking about the opponents... Seen other videos and you have to give one thing to Jordan... You are talking about the Warriors because they won something... Oh yeah now they must be hell of an opponent.. You just don't talk about the Suns with Barkley, KJ... or the Knicks with Ewing, Starks... like that becaus Jordan has just never let them win. If Jordan had not won 6 titles because he lost to other teams, he would have won 3 or 4 titles and the others would be considered better opponents. Citing Jxmyhighroller... What is better? Beating the juggernaut (Lebrons win against the Warriors)? Or BEING the Juggernaut... YEAR... after YEAR.... after YEAR...
@JoshuaB-c2j
@JoshuaB-c2j 4 күн бұрын
I can easily say players from the late 80's through 90's were better, stronger, faster, and more skilled than today's players for the simple fact that they had to earn every point and statistic they got. There is limited defense today to the extent that it doesn't even look like basketball. These guys would not be scoring as much as they do if real defense was allowed. We know hand checking was removed to increase point scoring. The reason why is it's a huge benefit on defense. When hand checking, the defender can feel where the defender is going. Our brain senses and interprets touch much more quickly allowing the defender to respond faster. This made it much more difficult to score compared to today they have to go purely of vision. The other thing is a step back move did not exist because it's a travel. When trapped, they had to pass it, or perform a fade away shot. If these guys today couldn't perform their Olympic long jump step back to create space, they wouldn't have near the points they have. Previous players would've doubled their scoring if they didn't have to face a defense or could jump backwards to create space for a more open look.
@Mandzky
@Mandzky 2 күн бұрын
Rodman not playing with bulls anymore when he played all stars
@demetriboyd2223
@demetriboyd2223 4 күн бұрын
Rodman wasn’t an Allstar in 96,97,98 nd nobody on the bench is aHOF
@oscarjimenez4806
@oscarjimenez4806 5 күн бұрын
Ron Harper was great role player and a shell of himself.
@JoshuaB-c2j
@JoshuaB-c2j 4 күн бұрын
Michael Jordan is highly respected for the way he presents himself, the way he responds when things don't go his way, and for going through the growing pains. He lost through so many years in the beginning because it takes failure to become successful. It takes time to create a dynasty. Michael Jordan stuck around for it. He didn't follow who was winning. He waited for the team to be built, and he taught those guys how to win and be a team. Success has to be built. That is why Lebron isn't respected. Lebron never grew up to understand that. If he stayed in Cleveland all this time and maybe only won one championship in his career, he would be much more respected. Old school sports fans are loyal to teams, most often the team of the city they're from, not individual players. For that reason, Cleveland fans will forget Lebron the day they win a championship again.
@moneymaker251
@moneymaker251 6 күн бұрын
What he said is correct ..Jordan is and always will be the goat
@phillipfreely2226
@phillipfreely2226 6 күн бұрын
Jordan played against the greatest players
@phillipfreely2226
@phillipfreely2226 6 күн бұрын
Defense wins championship
@phillipfreely2226
@phillipfreely2226 6 күн бұрын
Rodman wasn't with the bulls when he was an all star
@G-ZUZ_IZ_KING
@G-ZUZ_IZ_KING 5 күн бұрын
I didn't watch the video.. I do this with most MJ vids. This is not a debate. His Airness is by far the G.O.A.T PERIOD
@dannyjohnson236
@dannyjohnson236 4 күн бұрын
Clearly you wasn’t listening when the guy said Jordan lead team. Because we all know Rodman made it to the All Star game, but that’s showing your age. Because you thought Rodman was on the Bulls then and he wasn’t.
@eswope1478
@eswope1478 5 күн бұрын
In my opinion the warriors are one of the best teams in history they are my favorite team right now. but the 96’ bulls were another level. The only reason being that Jordan was gonna guard curry while Pippen would guard KD and then Rodman would neutralize draymond, not even draymond would be able to guard Jordan, Kd might be able to stop Pippen, that’s the biggest flaw if todays game is that there is no actual defense, not like in the 90’s or early 2000’s. Anyway thanks for the reaction, nice video. 👍👍
@franksmith3744
@franksmith3744 5 күн бұрын
Wizards MJ was still schoolin folks
@djfriedice7754
@djfriedice7754 4 күн бұрын
"LeBron's level"???????? No, LeFemme has never played to Jordan's level, ever. I challenge you to go find a video of Jordan flopping, whining, throwing tantrums on the floor, traveling every game (and getting away with it), committing obvious offensive fouls (per the rule book and not getting called for it), yelling at refs (and not getting a technical), and not hustling on defense. I can guarantee you won't find any of that. Jordan achieved more in less time (13.5 season) than James (20 seasons). Even with FACTS, LeFemme fans are so brainwashed that they still think it's false. China endorses LeFemme (and own ESPN). Agree with their politics (go woke) and do what they say (crossdress) and they will take care of you ("No party like a Diddy party!!!"). The propaganda tactic always works with young people (children, teens, young adults). That has always been a communist/socialist/marxist tactic. Today's NBA players are not better than the 80's and 90's era NBA players. Go watch Kenny Smith's interview with Mark Jackson and he will explain it.
@romanlopez8365
@romanlopez8365 5 күн бұрын
Rodman was not an all star when he was in the Bulls
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