Gilbert Arenas & Lethal Shooter Break Down Why Russell Westbrook & Ben Simmons Struggle Shooting

[@certifiedchaos4643]

Crazy part about Russ is he actually had a pretty solid pull up jumper from the midrange.

[@Thomas-xr8zt]

he did for a bit but it felt like since those post KD days in OKC he isn't as efficient with it.

[@certifiedchaos4643]

@@Thomas-xr8zt analytics told him it was a good shot. He should have done what Demar dwade and kawhi did and keep shooting midrange jumpers

[@Thomas-xr8zt]

@@certifiedchaos4643 that’s a fact! Felt like it opened up his game

[@LolRoboShotU]

It was in transition when the defense was back peddling. He pulled up on the right side of the free throw line area

[@chrisisslick]

He also used to be a streaky 3 pt shooter and a better free-throw shooter.

[@LambNRice]

That explanation of westbrook and simmons makes so much sense. They should take a page out of the explosive guys who learned how to harness their fast-twitch dial so they can still maintain touch. Drose comes to mind with his floater/mid range game, for someone as explosive as he used to be, he was a master at softly hitting that floater.

[@renemubuntu6707]

Exactly like Blake griffin ,drove pr John wall who learnt how to shoot as they got older

[@809Mornelle]

@@renemubuntu6707 John wall can shoot now ?!?!

[@Dreadswing302-yx5tm]

@@809Mornelleword he can g

[@airhco15]

Russ had it figured out up until his mvp yeah 🤷🏿‍♂️

[@thaofficiall2thad420]

Dwade for me he mastered mid range when lebron joined heat. Russ has a better chance it's his rise and release. Ben should just put his head down and attack 😅

[@RickyWraith]

Makes sense why harden and luka are so deadly with the pull up, they can decelerate so efficiently

[@michelangelooliver2590]

This makes SO MUCH SENSE especially with Westbrook

[@gohansawyer3907]

westbrook also has a off hand thumb flick and a wrist hitch so he’s never going to be a good shooter again unfortunately

[@DavidBaggaShorts]

I remember playing against Chris (lethal shooter) when he was at Washington state for a few years before he transferred to St bonnies’ , he should’ve played more for WSU in the pac10 but at the time it wasn’t a 3 point shooting game like it is now. Cool to see what he’s doing with all these guys in the league, keep up the great work. 👏🏽

[@superemesean5907]

Lying asss 😂

[@Ballzinyahmouth]

Sure !!!!

[@Staylive7]

I went to high school with Chris. Feels great to have watched him since he was a preteen to now. Living the dream and teaching the kids!

[@themack5131]

@@Ballzinyahmouth stop hating

[@Ballzinyahmouth]

@@themack5131 hating on what a lie lol

[@vl2100]

and this is why he is the best instructor when it comes to shooting the basketball.... its the little details that often get overlooked even by pros sometimes... but his love for the craft and every portion of it is beautiful

[@pob-4810]

💯

[@jeffhardy6333]

The best instructor label is wild. There’s been shooting coaches doing this for 30+ years. Come on now lol

[@BigDilf3]

@@jeffhardy6333 people hear the most basic thing and think it’s gold anybody with a brain tells you start shooting by the basket then move back

[@Thatboygtmike]

@@BigDilf3 yeah I thought was going to hear something new. Shit is common sense lol

[@Cuffy6]

@@BigDilf3 to be fair lol everybody perceives things differently 😂, not saying you’re wrong not at all but … you know lol

[@ConnectFork]

I was a leaper in college. Could slash and shoot off balance/off the dribble comfortably, but never could find a consistent rhythm with catch and shoot threes. (I actually could shoot step back threes at a higher clip than regular catch and shoot.) back in my day coaches would lose their minds over it though 😂 Truth is, I never figured out a reliable catch and shoot mechanic. Really interesting hearing this perspective. You can really see why the game gets better every year with analysis and coaching like this. Keep up the great work, guys.

[@freddycalipari4242]

It explained a lot cause most explosive guards can’t shoot

[@cwynn4802]

my advice would be to work on form shooting and free throw, also make sure your release is fluid and there’s not a hitch

[@freddycalipari4242]

@@cwynn4802 easier said than done lol.

[@PIP...33]

@@freddycalipari4242 CRAZY PART OFD THIS. ARENAS CANT PASS , CANT REBOUND , CANT DEFEND, BLOCK, STEAL OR BE A SPORT PLAYER. THATSA WHY NBA BANNED HIM FOREVER AND HE IS NOT GOD WESTBROOK 75 GOAT HALL OF FAMER.

[@PIP...33]

@@cwynn4802 YOUR ADVICE ?? U DONT HAVE FOOD IN YOUR HOME

[@Theflamehasira35]

God hearing lethal shooter talk the art of shooting is so damn relaxing bro 😭u can tell this man coaches at a nba level love hearing these fellas as a whole drop knowledge wouldn’t mind seeing them together more often 💯💪🏾✊🏾

[@boricua316]

2:12 that "omg" I felt that. When you know something but can't explain it an then you hear it somewhere else. It so feels so good; the release of finally knowing how to explain yourself. You can see he's had a rough go at it trying to explain it with that sigh jajajajajja

[@bytheriverinpeace2301]

What they'd have to do is watch 87-92 jordan to learn how to stop on a dime, transfer the momentum upwards into your shot and release at the top or just slightly before the top , to adjust the shot. Jordan was king of the 1-2 pull up, the hop from a running start into a jumper , and fading away from either side off the one- two pull-up. Jordan was the personification of "fast-twitch" muscles. For a time Westbrook did somewhat have the stop on a dime or hop into a jumper from midrange, but overtime he's percentages decreased.

[@xXSprMgaAwsmFxyHtXx]

That’s why luka is so good, he can stop on a dime better than anyone

[@christhomas6440]

This makes more sense than everything else I heard

[@meech6848]

I love that ppl are seeing that hes a LEGIT trainer and not just for a jump shot.

[@mashimarosempai]

Such an underrated comment about the “cutting the quick twitch”. You could be amazing at shooting midranges during practice but consistently getting into the midrange pocket during the game is what sets the Ant-Mans, KDs, Tatums and Devin Bookers aparts. Unless you’re 6’10, you need to have that in your game if you want to average 30 a game

[@shawncross5019]

I can listen to you guys talk shooting all day.

[@sammyslam1]

One of the issues with Russ is also nerves. He finds it hard to relax in games where he is struggling. Guys like Harden, CP3, Holiday, Lowry, and Conley stay relaxed even on nights where their shots are not falling or they are missing shots around the rim. He's actually a fairly decent shooter when he is relaxed and doesn't hesitate. Even at the free throw line you can sense his tension at times. I think it's just something a team has to live with and balance it out by having 2-3 scoring options that are more efficient, with Russ more facilitator, rebounder, scorer.... At this age i think a team can still get 18/8/8 from Russ as a starting pg on 46% shooting and 34% from 3... That's not bad for a #3 or #4 scoring option.... Maybe Lethal Shooter can add Russell Westbrook as a client....

[@Grind2Excellence]

18 ppg 8 8 in 2023 is like 12ppg 5 5 in 2010😂

[@lebumjames1373]

@@Grind2Excellence Fr gotta adjust for awful defense, garbage time points, etc

[@zod548]

@@Grind2Excellencenot at all

[@bobbythespaceghost9934]

I was super quick when I was young and tried to intimidate with my quickness, but man, this makes so much sense. Good information.

[@TheInkTheWorldShow]

Great job on explaining the breakdown and form shooting

[@jonpoon3896]

Russ should ask Vince Carter about being an athletic player who can shoot

[@dewanewelch1744]

Vince is not like Russ. Vince jumps up and down. He wasn't a speed demon like Russ.

[@trentonbrunelle3778]

Westbrook used to have a deadly pull up mid range and shot over 80% on freethrows ever since he had that elbow surgery he wasnt the same shooting

[@clintonb5627]

This is why he’s such a Great teacher. Able to articulate very simply why Players like Ben Simmons & Russ have bad shots

[@Blasian_guy]

Russ shot isn’t that bad there worse shooters than him in the league.

[@spiritofworship8776]

Somebody needs to convince Russell Westbrook to hire the lethal shooter.

[@Bob-fj7lr]

Yo this is a conversation about shooting that is seriously legendary. These guys won't speak in high level scientific verbiage, but these are 2 people just truthfully speaking about how jump shooting works and they're literally talking biomechanics and physics, answering questions people have had about shooting for like almost 100 years now. That turning off your fast twitch muscles thing was NUTS

[@Lodgeitude]

Really good video. Very informative.

[@mazzb305]

The crazy part about Russ is that he has consistently regressed as a shooter since his MVP year.

[@LukasP143]

In his head to much bc of the fans calling him westbrick etc.

[@PIP...33]

@@LukasP143 CRAZY PART OFD THIS. ARENAS CANT PASS , CANT REBOUND , CANT DEFEND, BLOCK, STEAL OR BE A SPORT PLAYER. THATSA WHY NBA BANNED HIM FOREVER AND HE IS NOT GOD WESTBROOK 75 GOAT HALL OF FAMER.

[@morijin9552]

@@LukasP143 Not really ppl started calling him that on the lakers

[@Grind2Excellence]

He could never shoot

[@DaDelinguisher]

@@morijin9552 nah it sayrted in 2012

[@alvaroalfaro9478]

Ben simmons is also shooting with his off hand(his left) instead of his natural hand dominant hand(right)

[@nathanbedfordforest]

They need to have this guy on more often. That was GREAT!

[@SportsGameVision]

You can tell Lethal Shooter is a great coach/teacher! Didn’t realize how many clients he has. I know he proud of KCP right now!

[@Laceta2]

Damn! Lethal Shooter said it well. As best and as understandable as it could be

[@rsturdy4045]

Nice show

[@Visionpluswisdom]

This is high level basketball conversation! Shoutout to Gilbert for letting my man speak and give added value and articulate the game, this is super dope and love that all brothers are of color. This made me happy today.

[@1superscrap]

Man, this was a good clip!

[@yuupyuup4774]

Lethal Shooter came long way! Congrats my brother🎉🎉🎉

[@kudabeen]

Gil one of the few that still humanize Simmons...hope dude gets a guy like Lethal Shooter and gets some of his respectability back...get healthy and find what you love in the game again. We'll see...only 26/27...

[@timburney100]

He did work with him in Philly actually

[@Maxjuliann]

Mid range is the best shot but the analytics nerds say it’s the worse . But if you look at all the greatest scorers in history . Kobe , Mj , KD , Iverson , Kyrie , Curry , Bron , Ect all of them can shoot mid range

[@certifiedchaos4643]

Yeap so I think they pushed Russ away from it bcuz he was really good at the pull up jumper

[@dewanewelch1744]

Please take LBJ out of that group lol

[@surgeonso4345]

@@dewanewelch1744 why? he could add Melo to the list but Bron isn’t a sloth on scoring.

[@dewanewelch1744]

@@surgeonso4345 Melo yes add him. LBJ mid range shooting numbers his entire career are well below average. He is terrible historically outside of 3 feet from the rim.

[@Theeonlygogeta]

Bron mid range game is not good let alone elite... it's a sometimes shot ... u left out demar melo khawai book klay and cp3. They all have better mid range jumpers than bron. Hell vucevic from the bulls mid range better than brons. Lol

[@acmeoneconnect]

Great advice on shooting.I started out shooting mid ,layup in back board .The more comfortable I got shooting mid the easier the three got

[@02butta]

The middy will be open, in most cases at least I notice it during open run. U get comfortable w that, the other 2 ways of scoring becomes easier

[@Chris1200923]

nothing but facts

[@FuboSports]

Full episode with Lethal Shooter 💪➡ kzbin.info/www/bejne/o5Kai6usm9aNmqs

[@dejonparmer91]

This breakdown is 🔥🔥🔥

[@bigal4782]

Same with Rondo, Wade and a slew of other players but at least with those 2 their 3 point shooting got better overtime

[@socialistbatman1211]

Rondo’s hands were too big for him to comfortably shoot for years

[@bigal4782]

@@socialistbatman1211 definitely did not know that. Interesting

[@oTrillMaine]

Shooting coach was spitting gems!

[@EJ-do1dk]

And this is why Jordan is the most fundamentally sound guard in the history of basketball. He was extremely explosive, yet kept excellent shooting mechanics. Prime example is the jumper he hit on Craig Ehlo.

[@ricodvorsky3844]

he couldn't shoot 3s either tho

[@EJ-do1dk]

@@ricodvorsky3844 Couldn’t? He didn’t need to.

[@mryoungndfamous4616]

He right but these nba players got to much pride you can’t tell them nothing

[@hotboydel7018]

Damn I learned something just by listening to Lethal

[@kcameron819]

Very interesting points!

[@TerrellHarris]

This was gold!

[@jonnyray7388]

Lethal shooter.... Great job you doing

[@imilly8179]

That quick twitch is a good explanation. Russ pull up game was nice at 1 point though.

[@theburneraccount9650]

Russ was actually a great midrange and free throw shooter until around 2017 or 18. They changed the free throw rules and he's been missing more since then for some reason. Simmons is just......

[@Kdg857]

@lethalshooter just gained himself a lot more clients!! Excellent basketball knowledge and explanation! 👏🏾 👏🏾👏🏾

[@weareoveryourheadpodcast]

Westbrook was a great mid range shooter in okc tho

[@WorldWideDBiggs]

MPJ & KCP been shooting the hell out the ball this playoffs.. it’s been paying off

[@Jevildury]

Let's not forget about Bobby portis in the finals years ago hitting the midrange jumpshots

[@da11king]

I guess Grayson Allen didn't work on his floater game at all this past summer 🙄.. Love the interview format. Gilbert being interviewed by two giants 😂

[@jq7889]

This why my coach always had us working on form shooting since I was in elementary no one was really helping me I got good shooting three on my own at a young age and it never left but then I got older learned more about the game and mid range just cash 3’s is cool but being able to stop on a dime and pull up from mid is different

[@PPPmtd]

YOOOO this now makes sense. I instantly thought of J Wall

[@TruthSpeaker4]

Listen to these guys

[@jeremiahperry1958]

Exactly! Soft touch. You got to be able to soften your release when you pull up for a jumpshot. It's a lost art.

[@shan8245]

man if you go to a basketball clinic back in the day making a bucket start under the basket and so on till threepoint line

[@RellMonroe]

Boy scared the shit outta me listening to this while working 2:29

[@YouTakeNotes]

its so true... im a curry hater but if he didnt have that long range 3 he would still be deadly... his mid range isnt that good unless hes open cause hes short. floaters layup finishing, etc he is amazing for a PG. he can do it all offensively

[@KoraiOficial123]

Agent zero still remember his game

[@dqueezytv]

I’m not even a real baller and this is how I workout on my rest days. Explains why I average a STRONG 4 points in pick up 😤😂

[@jadenedwards4666]

Yes you did say that you need to be a coach for real❤

[@EricJohnson438]

Lethal: Yeah yeah yeah yes

[@SheinlovewJT]

As someone that struggles with shooting how do you stop your fast twitch?

[@Chuck_A_Luck_Stank]

Gratitude

[@JustTweakin]

This dude tryna name drop everybody he worked with Lol

[@ELISHA690]

lethal shooter just gave y’all so much game bruh Don’t let that go over your head

[@virgillesaca]

Lethal Shooter is a genius scientist engineer

[@TAHJ1987]

These guys definitely know more than me...id say its really about reps..ive known plenty of guys with ugly forms..and were straigbt buckets...even in the league..kevin martin..reggie miller..shawn marion..if you master enough game reps...your jumper can be good

[@raymondsmith8027]

This is fascinating to listen to! They're basically talking basketball science..lol...this is for the true basketball nerds like myself

[@ivandickson7682]

That switching off fast twitch was a gem

[@EzMoneyMack]

That’s impossible.

[@deezysdailydrippodcast2493]

He ain't lying cus I be reffing these tournaments

[@sarusaru-x3b]

what does quick twitch mean?

[@albertdaley9093]

First russ use to be a shooter watch his first 8 seasons tbh when you adding on muscles shoulder weight

[@cosmixescalv]

that y mpj's jumper is WATER

[@Chefboryardboi]

They speaking straight 📠 I ain’t heard a lie yet🤷‍♂️

[@lincoln8530]

The trainer is 110% right

[@bensimmons6958]

Jack be nimble Jack be quick Jack jumps over the candle stick

[@uncletrav920]

Pretty much my problem 😂 that quick twitch just doesnt shut off all the time.

[@Thatboygtmike]

No you just don’t work on your jumper bro 😭

[@stephonhopkins4569]

Westbrook mid range used to be lethal. When he stopped shooting it is when he started having issues

[@kudabeen]

Need to see them have a shoot out...

[@gilbertnicholas1582]

This is why guys become good shooters when they age

[@dirtyd757]

KCP and Porter jumpers are so much better too.

[@Aj-jq3io]

exactly why deaaron fox so cold

[@jordancarlin9687]

gilbert was the master of turning off the twitch.

[@JustGo490]

He should work with Ben

[@schwanhumes323]

I train kids...and when I said this about not working threes ...I focus on working mid range and got roasted

[@antoniosuge1911able]

Gears ⚙️ baby gears

[@dannyf5595]

Russ is good in the mid range cus hyper athletic guys tend to have a 2 motion shot which is effective in the mid range for 3 pointers you need a one motion shot

[@aking2330]

You got all these "shooters" who can't do anything midrange. Seen a female shooting coach explain why russ was missing shots and get crucified for saying this exact thing.

[@philminor233]

Gil lets breakdown why you don't have Russ speed passing ability defense hops rebounding ability if we did probaly answer why you weren't in the league that long

[@oscar-gg3dc]

Damn man what Gil do to you

[@FlexileLoner0440]

Dude was a 6'4 210lb Curry that could dunk on you whenever 🤣 stop the cap

[@oscar-gg3dc]

@@FlexileLoner0440 man was in no way Curry lol

[@coachnickens6652]

I wish I got exposed to this information 15 years ago to help my game. Mind blown

[@roger5277]

That's me all day running 100 mph just to be under the rim

[@daundisputedtake7238]

Grayson. Allen with the hops

[@Hflphon]

im an good 3 point shooter, but can’t hit mid ranges fr😭

[@andylarkin9462]

Makes sense

[@foursup3139]

Lethal shooter was name dropping with 0 Shame lol

[@mrohiorivertwo]

I BEEN TRYNA SAY THE MID RANGE IS WHERE ITS AT

[@TheCuttyBrown]

This is true.. cuz im fast than a bitch like quick quick, and all that energy makes my shot hard.. its good for fadeaways tho, cuz u need that power...who want da smoke??

[@professionaltrollkilla5965]

This was dope. Lethal really blowing up

[@ReCharredSigh]

It’s not just starting shooting from in-close; get kids to concentrate on their form first and not worry on making the shot; the accuracy will come later.