Fuel Tanks fitting and safety. The Overland Workshop 2017

[@rugburnzz]

Thanks for the posting of the Namibia trip. Looks awesome.

[@johnwarfield7742]

The White/Mash tandem is working well, enjoying you characters immensely ! Diesel engines, especially after the turn of the century, are literally killed by dirty fuel. The emission requirements are met, in part , by very tight tolerances in the injectors. the extra filtering, is a fine idea. Look into the propane injection to both, add power and mileage, as well as burn / clean the fuel to lessen the dirty oil problems. The propane is really quite simple and effective ..... Carry On !!

[@SarahJaneWeldon]

This was incredibly helpful, recently came across you through the Patreon community, and so glad I did, will save me a lot of heartache as I plan for my own expedition. Thank you so much.

[@adelarsen9776]

1) One can purchase a Tanami Pump for ANY fuel canister and make life much easier. 2) It's a good idea to have a spare syphon as described here-in. 3) With a flow-through tank the risk is leaks and wasting all your fuel. Separate is best. 4) It's good to delineate and differentiate between overlanding and 4wdriving - good point. 5) Have a diesel 4wd ? A secondary fuel filtration system is a no-brainer. 6) Have Jap diesel ? Oil and filter change every 5000km - goes without saying. 7) Canadian made Sceptre fuel drums (plastic) are the best in the world. Like it says in the casting on the fuel filler of my Caterpillar D9 - "Buy Clean Fuel Keep It Clean" Great video. Spot on, thank you for making and sharing :-)

[@johndobbyns8651]

Point 1) is no longer true. Tanami pumps are now, only produced for use with the "traditional" steel jerry can. I don't know why the others were discontinued.

[@Gorim33]

Are those Sceptre fuel cans available in Australia? And if so, where?

[@hdmccart6735]

Andrew, now you're in AUS you can pick up a Donaldson secondary fuel filter (with glass bowl) for around $85 a kit - which includes the aluminium mount and bottom bowl assembly plus the required periphery stuff, as well as 2 filters (normally $30 a piece). I installed one in my 105 Series LC in around 20mins, very happy re: insurance v. price! Cheers.

[@adelarsen9776]

Donaldson Racor Diesel Care Top 3 - Top Shelf - Fitted post primary. Happy days. :-) Of course, a clean air filter helps too.

[@TheForeverchanges]

Weight distribution is important. 4WD vehicles are usually loaded to the gills and in hairy situations you want the most predictable handling you can achieve. Good chat!

[@zl14l41]

I feel like Paul would be very good with hostage negotiations with the way he calmly explains everything

[@frodoadventure1]

I did not catch any discussion on the dangers of elevation changes and partially filled fuel tanks. Elevation changes come with changes in atmospheric pressure changes, that are different from the internal pressure within a jerry can. Filling a can at one elevation and opening it at a different elevation can spray fuel. Be very cautious!

[@fromcitytowild]

Look into rotopax fuel canisters. I think they're much lighter then jerry cans and they sit flat and lock with this cool piece.

[@bosse641]

Nice info there. ...great talk. ...thanks guys.

[@michaelwalker4230]

talking about plastic in line fuel filters I have one on 280 Isuzu just after the tank has saved me plenty on filters and problems

[@gravityfighter6667]

What's your overall impressions on the kit the guys on Expedition Overland use when setting up their trucks?

[@Christian76S]

andrew, thank you for this video. though this is a topic for 2018, i'm already looking for the best solution to fit to my rig. have you had any experiences with aftermarket manufacturers for auxiliary tanks?

[@adelarsen9776]

Google - Out of Town 4wd, The Long Ranger, ARB. Best tanks by far.

[@prasadtemkar4498]

Thanks for this video andrew and paul. Some valuable tips . Would u be able to share some light if my truck is a petrol 80 series 1fzfe. I usually carry 2 jerries here in australia on top of the 145 ltrs. I often dont feel safe havin those jerries on the roof during summer. Reason i hav to is coz of the economy of my truck

[@charltonorleans9529]

How do you do your laundry during your international journey sir?

[@patm5165]

Very Helpful, thanks for doing.

[@PatrickRich]

there are 2 kinds of overlanders (to Pauls point about gear vs experience): people who want to see things people who want to be seen on instagram For the first type your advice is solid, not as much for the second.

[@mandaloin]

Those secondary fuel tank solutions you guys were talking about I've been pondering for my 4Runner because I only get about 250 miles to a tank. A lot of people have speculated too, but no one has actually done it since 2 tanks seems to be a huge mystery here in America. I wonder where I can find someone experienced who can set me up like that?

[@IBAdrianHarris]

If you want 2 seperate tanks, you need to get a second factory sender to fit in the 2nd tank, a tank selector (often referred to as a "Pollak switch"), and a switch to operate in the cabin. This will ensure your 2nd tank works with your factory gauge. In the US, lots of older Ford Trucks had multiple tanks setup like this, and the newer (larger - F450+) Ford trucks still do when coming out of the factory optioned with multiple tanks.

[@mandaloin]

Thanks for that! What about a second gauge so I don't have to worry about fitting a Toyota sender into a Ford tank? (Ford tanks fit perfectly where my spare tire sits.)

[@IBAdrianHarris]

You could do that as well - as long as the Ford sender (or whatever sender you are using) can talk to it.

[@itlldoo6128]

not allowed to fill tanks that are on a roof of a car, must be put onto the ground to be filled in Australia.....something about static electricity !

[@adelarsen9776]

100% :-)

[@jimbobjones3391]

Down under?

[@damionlea958]

Same thing in U.S. There posted notices at all pumps stating all containers must be filled on the ground, not on the vehicle.

[@adelarsen9776]

Damion Lea 100% correct. It's right across the western and civilised world. Static electricity causes sparks which ignite fuel vapour. I don't need to explain the remainder of the story. Many countries have static wire straps for filling containers which are not on the ground. These are mostly for trucks. Following the service station advice is the best. It stops people getting hurt. This comment was directed at everyone generally.

[@onwheels8232]

sparks are not a proablem for diesel fuel. it won't ignite. need 40 bar of pressure in an old diesel engine to ignite so i don't see the proablem. 40 bar are 40 kg concentrated on 1cm square.

[@PatrickRich]

Just a heads up for US overlanders, flow through tanks may not be legal

[@johndobbyns8651]

Another good video, but the comments about using a plastic inline filter are not appropriate for modern CRD (common rail diesel) fuel systems. The filter for CRD goes before the high pressure fuel pump, if there is too much pressure drop between the tank and the pump, cavitation and pump failure can occur, and the damage to the pump will most likely carry through to the injectors. My experience with CRD is with the Toyota 1VD-FTE (V8 diesel). There is a pressure switch in the fuel filter housing, on the pump side of the filter which is there to protect the fuel pump from cavitation, if the pressure falls to the setting of this switch the filter service light comes on and the filter should be changed as soon as possible (not 100 or more km later). Toyota won't warrant the fuel system if a second filter is fitted between the original filter and the fuel pump, so called secondary or post filters, because the pressure switch is before the second filter. Any additional filter must be fitted before the original filter to not invalidate the warranty and risk failure of the fuel pump. Bypassing a blocked fuel filter with a small plastic inline filter is a very bad suggestion in a CRD. It wont have the necessary micron rating to protect the fuel pump and injectors. Several spare filters should be carried for remote travel. The fuel filter fitted to the 1VD-FTE engine is fine for changing elements in a clean dealer workshop, but is a crazy design for a dusty environment beside a track in the Australian outback. Given that stock filters are adequate for filtering the small particles from diesel, water becomes the biggest concern. There have been enough examples to conclude that by the time the stock filter on a 1VD-FTE raises the water in filter alarm that enough water has gone through to stuff-up the pump and injectors. A good Racor, Donaldson, or the like filter, with a good water separator built in is a good idea, but my preference is the "Water Watch" kit. The normal filter element is not a water separator, and water separators can't remove emulsified water from fuel. If water goes through the filter to the pump it will become emulsified, and a lot of fuel is returned from the pump to the fuel tank (for cooling purposes), and will be returned back to the filter and pump. The only way to trap emulsified water is to use a filter that has a hygroscopic layer before the filter media. Despite popular belief, fuel filters do not work like sieves, except for large particles. Large (greater than 4 micron) particles and very small (less than 4 micron) particle are relatively easy to filter out (for example a filter rated at 15 micron will trap a lot of 2 micron particles), but 4 micron particles are hard to trap. New filters are nowhere near as efficient (at trapping fine particles) as old partially blocked filters. Donaldson, one of the most respected filtration companies in the world (along with Man+Hummel) say that many problems result from over servicing fuel filters. Changing fuel filters at 5000 km, at the same time as changing engine oil is bad practice.

[@SquirrelFromGradLife]

Either a fuel tank is completely full or completely empty... if you leave a little fuel and especially gasoline in a jerry can then you have a perfect bomb strapped to your roof baking in the sun all day.. if you have an accident then you have an accident with a bomb on the roof... just got people that don't think so, leave a cup of gasoline in a garbage bag and let it evaporate with air in the bag.. then set fire to it and see what happens... try it I dare you... it's called a fuel air mixture and it's the same reaction that happens inside the combustion chamber of your engine.. it's also the same principle used for the biggest conventional bomb ever produced MOAB...

[@chucklesthefireguy5356]

Rotopax

[@mytube9580]

Boring zzzzzz