FUJIFILM LENSES compared: 23mm F2 vs 23mm F1.4.....35mm F2 vs 35mm F1.4

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FUJIFILM LENSES compared: 23mm F2 vs 23mm F1.4.....35mm F2 vs 35mm F1.4
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@iamrichlol
@iamrichlol 7 жыл бұрын
is your shirt inside out?
@badhabit714
@badhabit714 4 жыл бұрын
Everything about this guy is inside out
@XtianApi
@XtianApi 5 жыл бұрын
What about your 35f 2 video stating its superiority over the 1/4?
@MadEnglishTV
@MadEnglishTV 4 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate your expertise on Fuji gear.
@vancourverite7779
@vancourverite7779 6 жыл бұрын
how in the world did you get 23mm 1.4 for 230$$??
@badhabit714
@badhabit714 4 жыл бұрын
He likes to lie a lot
@Kalkini90
@Kalkini90 6 жыл бұрын
Hello Ken. I like night photography and few few days now I started the night street photography. The samyang/Rokinon 12mm f/2 is too wide for this and the Fuji 18-55 f/2.8-4, while I think is the best all around lens is not so good for night street. Is it worth investing the extra $ for the 1.4 versions? Thanks.
@narigueta007
@narigueta007 7 жыл бұрын
I havent found none on youtube comparing the kit lens 18-55 vs 35mm f/2. What's your opinion? will the fix lens 35mm take much better pics than kit at 35mm? im trying to figure out if it is worth the investment, or just keep shooting with kit.
@jamesmason3456
@jamesmason3456 7 жыл бұрын
I have the 35mm f1.4 and while it is noisy and slow it does render very charp images and amazing bokkeh! And for portrait work and street shooting I love this lens. Now, Ken if I'm choosing to pick up that 23mm focal length (I learned to shoot on a Spotmatic with a 35mm f1.2 lens) am I better off with the 23mm f2 or the 18-55 f2.8-4? The 18-55 is more versatile but at 23mm are the images as sharp as the 23mm?
@peterflor36
@peterflor36 7 жыл бұрын
In several of your videos you mentioned that the 23 1.4 is Fuji's second worse lens. Do you still feel the same way? I think this is somewhat similar to what you said about the 16-55 in your older videos but now it looks like that lens is always attached to your camera. You should do an update video on Fuji's best/must-have lenses.
@stevelink21
@stevelink21 7 жыл бұрын
Hi Peter. Perhaps you mean the "kit" 18-55? I have the 16-55 and can state with a fair amount of certainty that it is one of the best Fujinon zooms, as it is tack sharp throughout the range, weather-sealed, built like a tank, constant f/2.8 aperture, and fast AF (for a zoom)!
@preetuday
@preetuday 7 жыл бұрын
Barney
@themanfromoregon6047
@themanfromoregon6047 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting that you say if you had to choose you'd keep the 35 1.4 and the 23mm f2. For my purposes I chose the 23 1.4 and 35mm f2. I appreciate your videos.
@anonymousl5150
@anonymousl5150 Жыл бұрын
I think he changed his mind over time, if you look at his pdf he doesn't like how soft 23 f2 is between 2 and f2.8 and rates it the lowest out of the 4. This is also shown by mtf charts. The best bang for your buck is the 35 f2 (which is sharper but has more distortions) and the underrated 50 f2 which is a sharpness killer and best optically out of the f2 groups. While the 1.4s rate higher in things like microcontrast, I'd rather use a cheap vintage lens for that sort of thing because their autofocus is awful/ outdated compared to the f2s.
@Chaziradncjfdn
@Chaziradncjfdn 7 жыл бұрын
is it worth spending the extra money for that extra stop on the 23mm?
@eagleeyephoto8715
@eagleeyephoto8715 7 жыл бұрын
Chatter and noise on xpro 1 is present on 23mm and 35mm f2 ( not on every sample, tested 5 of each and beat me why mine does chatter less than other? ), on XT2 however less to non, Short focus on 23 f2 is soft, try to avoid f2 or for optimum stop down at least to 2.8..Both f2 making less noise than f1.4 but ehhh noise what and where is the reference ...compared to olympus or pana it is noisy (comparing here apple with orange) , compared to f1.4 it is quite. I like rendition of 23mm f2 and 35 f1.4 :-) , focus ring on 23 f2 has a bit long throw but not show stopper since itvis way wider than on 35 f2.. Anyway , Ken one big thank you for good , accurate and as usual "honest " compare,.I can only confirm all findings you mentioned in this video.
@DANVIIL
@DANVIIL 7 жыл бұрын
I really like my 35mm f1.4. I also want to get the 23mm f2, as well. I'd like to get the 50-200mm zoom, so I'm kind of stuck on what's next. I've picked up a bunch of vintage Pentax lenses and am really enjoying them as well, since MF isn't an issue for me.
@eagleeye8916
@eagleeye8916 5 жыл бұрын
Picked up a 18-55mm lens kit and added the 23mm f2 for an extra $150 it's a no brainer . Lighter more compact , faster, quite, weather sealed and got it for a steal .
@BenVallack
@BenVallack 4 жыл бұрын
Aperture chatter means you wouldn’t use it for video? Presumably if you leave it at a fixed aperture it doesn’t make any noises while shooting video?
@TriWaZe
@TriWaZe 4 жыл бұрын
Focusing makes noise as well. There are other videos showing this. The F2 is near silent.
@stevelink21
@stevelink21 6 жыл бұрын
HI Ken, if I'm not mistaken, I thought you made a video praising the XF23mm f/2 as a "Must Have" lens based on its sharpness, rendition, micro-contrast, and overall image quality! In fact, I bought that lens largely based on your glowing recommendation...That's why I was surpirsed at your rather pedestrian comments here.
@chrismercado826
@chrismercado826 7 жыл бұрын
The only one of those lenses is I have owned is the 35mm f2 I like the lens but I hated manual focusing on it. The focus throw is way too long. It's only a little bit better at f16. It makes me think that Fuji tries its best to have their lenses behave like full frame lenses which explains the odd focal lengths or they figured that their users will use auto focus most of the time, hence why most lenses don't have distance scales.
@gaza4543
@gaza4543 7 жыл бұрын
Thought there where three lenses you never buy 23mm 1.4 being one of them??. back peddling? they're both great though and you want go far wrong with either as you say. Though id rather take the f1.4
@rigosgarage5961
@rigosgarage5961 5 жыл бұрын
Great Videos. I always like watching what you have because you always provide VALUE. You don't ask for subscribers, clicks, or affiliate links, etc, you just provide valuable information. Awesome man! Glad we have you as youtuber who's interested in simply providing good information the world, rather than just looking out for yourself. Keep doing what you do!
@pioni2
@pioni2 5 жыл бұрын
Is there a situation where an AR coating mark does make a meaningful difference? I suppose it's worse on rear element than on front (suppose, meaning I don't actually know). I remember seen sensor flare with some lenses when used at night with mirrorless cameras, and those lenses did not have any problems in them, so it's not the coating marks that caused that. I've bought several lenses along the years with slight marks here and there and never seen how that might affect the photos, although it must be said that I've never owned two copies of the same lens with one in mint condition to compare. And by AR coating marks I don't mean a lens which someone "cleaned" using sandpaper. I never heard someone say: that's a superb photo, but I wish it wasn't ruined by your AR coating marks.
@joetreadonme
@joetreadonme 5 жыл бұрын
Why would you recommend the bigger and more expensive f1.4 when street photography is typically done at f9-11?
@apjarnich
@apjarnich 4 жыл бұрын
Hey ken, Obviously this comment is about 3 years in the future, but if you were to do this exact review today, Jan/2020, mounted on the new X-Pro 3 or X T3, how would you rate the performance of the older wider aperture 16, 23, 35, 56 vs the newer f/2 versions.What would be your choice now, one over the other, today?
@GenVirtu
@GenVirtu 4 жыл бұрын
Last week I scored a 23mm f1.4 prime used for $670, mint condition. A bit Pricey but it was the one I really wanted.
@stevelink21
@stevelink21 7 жыл бұрын
Ken, nice comparison as always! I own the 35 f/2, have no complaints on performance, sharpness, etc., but would prefer the wider 23 f/2 on my X-Pro2. However, being a sharpness fanatic, I only hesitate because I don't want to sacrifice sharpness. (Though I rarely shoot wide open...prefering to use optimum aperture for sharpness (around f/8). Sorry if I missed it, but did you say that both f/2 versions are equal in sharpness at mid-apertures? Thank you.
@pepavana
@pepavana 7 жыл бұрын
hi there, i am planning to buy a xpro2 with a 23 mm...f 1.4 for the sharpness like you said and better performance in poor light conditions....and I like the distance numbering on it, but I read about the blocking of the viewfinder with bigger lenses.... do you experienced that too? Than the 23mm f2 would fit better on the pro?! what compromise did you choose?
@MrDomq22
@MrDomq22 7 жыл бұрын
just jumped back into from Sony for the 2nd time. this time, I went with the xe2. I've only had it for 2 days and I've already noticed a difference from the xpro 1 I had. I can tell I'm going to stick with fuji for a long time.
@sclogse1
@sclogse1 3 жыл бұрын
Just want great corner sharpness at f5.6. I'll look at tests of the 23mm 2.0.
@anonymousl5150
@anonymousl5150 Жыл бұрын
Sharpness at corner is average but it is poor in center sharpness at f2 and f2.8.
@tempestuousdam3291
@tempestuousdam3291 7 жыл бұрын
On Fuji, for BW, fuji 23 1.4 or nikon 24 1.8G on an adapter ? No need for AF. I already own a Nikon/Fuji adapter. Big thanks!!!!
@paracuja
@paracuja 6 жыл бұрын
in germany the prices are still very high... bought my 23mm 1.4 used for 620€ (it was the cheapest one :D) in our stores its still 900€ new. But it was totally worth the money its now my "90% lens" only if i need a wider angle i use my 18-55.
@jeffmerheb3182
@jeffmerheb3182 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot for this lenses battle :) Can you do a 23mm f2 vs zoom kit (18-55 or 16-50) , I mean should we get the 23mm f2 lens when we already have one of the kit lenses 18-55 or 16-50 and if yes what are the added values of this prime? Is it softer or equal at f2.0 vs f3.5 @23mm on the 16-50 for example which will give brighter results in low light? Is the 23mm f2 having better microcontrast compared to the zoom kits making shots more ''punchy''?
@stevelink21
@stevelink21 7 жыл бұрын
Jeff Merheb Hi Jeff. While I haven't yet done a side-by-side comparison of 23 f/2 and the stellar 16-55 f/2.8, since I only recently acquired the 23, IMHO, the 16-55 might be sharper wide open (f/2.8) than the 23 is at f/2. However, at. other apertures, I think that, while close, the 23 would win in terms of sharpness and AF speed. That said though, the 16-55 f/2.8 is a superb zoom, and gives primes a run for the money!
@KenCheng
@KenCheng 7 жыл бұрын
decisions, decisions... so, here's my dilemma. I work part time at a camera shop and I can get discounts (obviously), but we don't have the option to get just the body... I've decided to get the X-T20 and have the option to either get it with the 16-50 kit lens or the better of the 2 kit lenses, the 18-55mm F2.8-4. I'd like to get the 23mm F2 as well... (and that's about all my budget can handle)... if it was my choice, I'd get just the body and the 23mm F2, but again, that's not an option... so, my question is... Should I save some money and get the cheaper of the 2 kit lenses and basically just use the 23mm F2? Or should I cough up a little more money and get the 18-55mm F2.8-4?
@BojanBojovic
@BojanBojovic 2 жыл бұрын
Does Fujinon 23mm f1.4 have less CA and fringing than the Viltrox 23mm f1.4? Thinking about the Viltrox, however that CA is just horrible, I am afraid it will be unusable really.
@KenTheoriaApophasis
@KenTheoriaApophasis 2 жыл бұрын
it does have less, yes
@peterham7130
@peterham7130 7 жыл бұрын
Enjoy your videos. But I got nervous when you placed your elbows on the that table and your imac wiggled back and forth. I don't know if it's the perspective of the filming camera, but it looks like you sat it on top of the keyboard? Random thought. But thanks for the comparison! A 14mmF2 WR would be amazing. That 10-24mm is way too big and not even weather sealed!
@KenTheoriaApophasis
@KenTheoriaApophasis 7 жыл бұрын
everyone says that!
@iamneallyons4263
@iamneallyons4263 6 жыл бұрын
is it just the price that puts you to say the 23 f2 over the 23f1.4? is the 23 f1.4 a better lens than the 23 f2 and 35 f1.4?
@alexanderthomas542
@alexanderthomas542 7 жыл бұрын
I agree the chatter is very prominent on the 1.4's, in my experience the older fuji lenses are more sharp and more characterfull 35mm especially, f2's are near silent but not for the sake of the better optics of their former counterparts , 60mm macro is the tits , 56 mm sharpest but too sluggish like an x-pro 1 hunting for something to lock on ,
@keithjohnson2863
@keithjohnson2863 6 жыл бұрын
I just sold a little used 35mm f1.4 on eBay for $355. Given that it was a year after this video made I think I got a good price for it. What's the best way to sell used camera gear?
@emreozcan1910
@emreozcan1910 7 жыл бұрын
I have a dream! 16mm F2 will be produced one day and it will be tiny 16f1.4 is amazing btw.
@arkjiang
@arkjiang 7 жыл бұрын
my pick of trio for full frame, 24mm 35mm and 85mm. so basically 16, 23, 56mm f2 (i dont mind 2.8) if for the size.
@vincencohan3626
@vincencohan3626 7 жыл бұрын
Emre Özcan then it would be clear that that they have over price on most of their f1.4 with big bulky, noisy & slow glass 😄. Most popular 23, 35, 50 with all new f2. Next line up with all new f1.2 very good marketing strategy right after they sold off the f1.4
@ligapersada4793
@ligapersada4793 6 жыл бұрын
Your dream do come true kanka
@sumitagg1
@sumitagg1 6 жыл бұрын
Ken - am getting the 35f1.4 for 299. Still has aperture chatter and focuses faster after firmware. But thinking that at $100 cheaper than the f2 it’s worth it. What do you think?
@andreak4280
@andreak4280 6 жыл бұрын
Fuji 23mm f1.4 used in excellent or like new condition for $280... you didn’t buy that lens, you stole it!!! I will give you $350.00 right now for it! Pleeeeeease!!! or rent it to me for a vacation i’m going on this month, pretty pretty pleeeease!! 🙏🏼😄😋
@KenTheoriaApophasis
@KenTheoriaApophasis 6 жыл бұрын
i need to keep it :P
@andreak4280
@andreak4280 6 жыл бұрын
Ok Ok $400.00 !! LOL! had to try...I wouldn't get rid of it either!
@julianram03
@julianram03 4 жыл бұрын
Your very helpful, I appreciate you sharing your knowledge of photography/ lenses. Thank you 😊
@YARD8
@YARD8 7 жыл бұрын
I'm thinking about the x-pro1 for some street work...I see it at a real good price.
@KenTheoriaApophasis
@KenTheoriaApophasis 7 жыл бұрын
i know, theyre pretty damn cheap in many places
@sumitagg1
@sumitagg1 6 жыл бұрын
According to pcmag, the 23 f2 is sharper at f2 through f4 vs the f1.4. Same is true for the 35f2 being sharper than the 35f1.4
@drs-Rigo-Reus
@drs-Rigo-Reus 4 жыл бұрын
most likely the new ones are corrected in camera for faults. The others have correct optical formulas.
@stevenstocking5855
@stevenstocking5855 7 жыл бұрын
Hey I think you'll find us Brits far less liberal than you think! I love love love my 23mm f1.4.
@KenTheoriaApophasis
@KenTheoriaApophasis 7 жыл бұрын
heheheeheh!!!! just the damn londoners ehhhh?
@MrShuaiGuy
@MrShuaiGuy 5 жыл бұрын
i'll just buy all of them. problem solved. :P
@mewsumwong1427
@mewsumwong1427 7 жыл бұрын
what would you recommend for night time sports shooting?
@KenTheoriaApophasis
@KenTheoriaApophasis 7 жыл бұрын
easy, D500
@GO-Production
@GO-Production 5 жыл бұрын
hi. I just ordered the 35mm f2. I like to shoot video aswell and thought maybe the 35mm f2 together with the 23mm f1.4 would be a nice option. Would you really rather take the 35mm 1.4 and the 23mm f2? btw thanks for your informative vlogs!
@markhou
@markhou 5 жыл бұрын
Strictly a matter of taste.. I prefer the angle of view and compression of the 35mm.. Anything wider I use the kit lens!
@GTXJason
@GTXJason 7 жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed this comparison. Was pretty on the fence between the 23s but had been leaning toward the 1.4; this comparison really helped push me more solidly to the 1.4 side. Thank you!
@wgdrumline
@wgdrumline 6 жыл бұрын
My head hurts!
@drs-Rigo-Reus
@drs-Rigo-Reus 4 жыл бұрын
it was indeed a long amble. His new vids are shorter and more to the point.
@michaelb9940
@michaelb9940 Жыл бұрын
He goes all over the place. And talks a lot of nonsense.
@daviddecouto960
@daviddecouto960 7 жыл бұрын
Another great, unique, needed review. Thank you, Ken!
@icwsi
@icwsi 7 жыл бұрын
what abut Fuji 18mm?
@TheSteve57
@TheSteve57 5 жыл бұрын
23mm 1.4 0r f2 for weddings, is the 1.4 too noisy ????
@hoorayforpentax3801
@hoorayforpentax3801 7 жыл бұрын
Every time I click on one of your vids, it seems to be preceded by a Sigma Art lens ad. Someone's watching you. ;-) Fuji's goal seems to be to make an APS-C prime in every focal length short of "normal", each in at least two apertures. :p
@oceanwillows
@oceanwillows 7 жыл бұрын
I don't know if I'm crazy but I could have sworn you said how stupid any Fuji owner would have have to be to not own the 35mm f2.
@KenTheoriaApophasis
@KenTheoriaApophasis 7 жыл бұрын
it is great, and quiet, and inexpensive and small…… in a crop however its a 50mm, the 23mm is more desirable for several reasons……..however the 35mm is a sharper (the F2 at F2)lens for certain
@jamesmason3456
@jamesmason3456 7 жыл бұрын
I thought a nifty fifty lense was kind of essential to every photographer's kit? I do love that 35mm focal length (in 35mm format) however. But for portrait work and street work I do love the nifty fifty. Guess it's what you get used to.
@viktorarchprime
@viktorarchprime 7 жыл бұрын
Hi Ken, wanted to know any news about gfx lenses quality price be good or over the top of regular buyers budget?
@KenTheoriaApophasis
@KenTheoriaApophasis 7 жыл бұрын
there is no pricing yet, nor had my hands on them, dunno yet
@viktorarchprime
@viktorarchprime 7 жыл бұрын
And when do you think fuji will update old lenses like 23mm 1,4 , 35mm 1,4 making them like new WR series?
@BorisStein
@BorisStein 7 жыл бұрын
they already did. 23mm 2.0 + 35mm 2.0
@viktorarchprime
@viktorarchprime 7 жыл бұрын
2.0 version not 1.4 version it's different product with different price
@therabbiofrhythm
@therabbiofrhythm 4 жыл бұрын
It's an old video but here's a new question. . . You point out that the 35mm f 1.4 (and 23mm) are good for infra red. How do you do infra red? Is there a filter or in post or - I heard it's a mod to the camera? Which of these is true and MOST recommended? Thank you apriori. P.S. you are by a light year my favorite photography presence on KZbin.
@KenTheoriaApophasis
@KenTheoriaApophasis 4 жыл бұрын
R72 filter added
@Outdawrzman
@Outdawrzman 7 жыл бұрын
I purchased the X T2, 16MM and 50-140MM. I love both lenses. I'm looking at purchasing 2 more prime lenses for the kit. One for street and one for portraiture. What would you do? and is there anything coming this year worth waiting for.
@vincencohan3626
@vincencohan3626 7 жыл бұрын
Mike Grenke 23 or 35mm f2 & coming soon 50mm f2?
@Raoh1st
@Raoh1st 7 жыл бұрын
Yesterday, the 35mmF2 was in your top 3 fuji lens and now you prefer the 35mm F1.4, I don't understand.
@KenTheoriaApophasis
@KenTheoriaApophasis 7 жыл бұрын
i dont prefer one over the other, EACH is great in its own way…..35mm 1.4 is NOISY AS HELL, sloooooooooow AF, and its big 35mm F2 is fast, quiet, small, inexpensive…………. depends on what you want/need
@Raoh1st
@Raoh1st 7 жыл бұрын
ok, thanks
@zathraspersonal
@zathraspersonal 4 жыл бұрын
ever tried to drive a tank on an english road?? I find this hard to believe.
@lancerrr9
@lancerrr9 5 жыл бұрын
Which one(s) have distracting bokeh?
@basil686
@basil686 7 жыл бұрын
wait what, youve switched from the d500?
@KenTheoriaApophasis
@KenTheoriaApophasis 7 жыл бұрын
noo, not switched
@davidedinoi3468
@davidedinoi3468 6 жыл бұрын
Wait wait wait: 24mm f1.4 at 290$ ???? Daaaaaamn
@KenTheoriaApophasis
@KenTheoriaApophasis 6 жыл бұрын
not that cheap
@davidedinoi3468
@davidedinoi3468 6 жыл бұрын
Theoria Apophasis How much was, then?
@gherat
@gherat 5 жыл бұрын
4:24 Is his name Richard D James?
@Ganeshgautama
@Ganeshgautama 7 жыл бұрын
i can't choose ... 23mm f2 or 27mm f2.8???
@undress62
@undress62 5 жыл бұрын
Aphex twin!
@vincencohan3626
@vincencohan3626 7 жыл бұрын
Can I make a suggestion in using remote app on iPhone 📱 for recording video. It would look 👀 lot better.
@eiein6606
@eiein6606 5 жыл бұрын
Whaw man....you talk too fast! FYI And it feels more as A podcast other than review/comparison
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