FUJIFILM XT4 & VOIGTLANDER LENSES (21mm Color Skopar / 28mm Ultron / 35mm Nokton / 50mm Nokton)

[@TomWangArt]

The benefit of the Fujifilm adaptor is that it features an extra button which opens the mount adaptor settings page with a single press. That makes switching manual lenses a lot more covenient.

[@Goughie]

Ahh! That makes a bit more sense if you’re someone that does it alot! Pinned as it could be helpful for others! Thank you for the info!

[@jakubprzybyowicz3980]

Though apparently the official Fuji adapter is not compatible with a lot of cool lenses (like the Ultron 28mm f2) :/

[@tinnoc]

I was about to comment the same thing, a part from that quick access you also gain access to the greyed out options in the menu to apply corrections to each lens.

[@dillost234]

Been watching the channel for awhile now, and as I am making decisions on what film and digital cameras to buy, it's nice to see content being offered up by the algorithm that helps me understand the decision making process a bit better.

[@fresnoz]

Very excited to learn about the dual display setting. Keep up the Fuji/Leica content 👍👍

[@utube321piotr]

Voigtlander makes Leica/FujiX adapter with adjustable focal plane. It is intended for facilitating close-up photography. I have it and it works quite well. Got it mint second hand for a fraction of new cost.

[@MrLittlmike22]

does taht adapter focus on infinity properly?

[@utube321piotr]

@@MrLittlmike22 yes, it doeas not impede the lens from infinity focus

[@sigmundklaus]

and you can focus the Heliar 40 mm collapsable with it :)

[@wilsonlee5372]

I've always wanted to try adapting Voigtlander lenses on my X-T3, but because I'm a broke college student, I ended up buying the 7artisans 35mm F1.2 (mark 1 i guess since there is a new one) and its been my go to lens ever since, i love the character that lens has and for the price and size it is incredible. Favorite lens I've ever tried for sure, granted I haven't tried a lot of lenses

[@jaegerschtulmann]

Oh boy wait until you take pictures with high quality glass, try an apolanthar lens from Voigtlander on your Fuji, it will blow your socks off!

[@stephanedubarry8624]

Excellent video. The focusing problem is a deal killer for me as what I am looking for is the prefocusing using the focusing scale on the lens

[@spooky_lights]

The reason for infinity focus being volatile and variable is because of expansion and shrinking in varying temperatures. I have film camera lenses that do the same, but if it’s too extreme it might the the flange distance of the mount adapter not being right.

[@wladdarwin413]

Great videos. Focusing on infinity works well with Voigtlander lenses, at least with mine. With the original VM adapter from Voigtländer to X mount

[@josephtang1650]

The issue has been bugging me for years, I also thought it was the lens' problem on an APSC sensor, but I later figured that the problem comes from the adaptor, that's why I now stay away from cheap adaptors

[@luxdalet]

Another awesome video! Those photos definitely show the beautiful lenses' character! The adapter worked great. I have been using same adapter for Minolta AF lens to my X-T4, I hadn't noticed the infinity focus issue. Didn't know about the lens mount setting for the metadata, that is a great option! Hyped for the new leica and fuji content!

[@Goughie]

I wonder if it’s more to do with the voigtlander part, I wonder if Leica glass will work properly! For the time being…. Something I can’t test! Thank you for the kind words as always!

[@VahidCullsberg]

Thank you for this video. I have finally decided on the fuji xt4 and have 3 voigtländer lenses, but screw mounts. Have to check out a fitting adapter

[@JoshuAhillyarD89]

I use 2 adapted lenses to my fuji. The helios 44m 58mm f2 and the Super-Takumar 135mm f3.5. I'm looking to possibly add the voigtlander color-skopar 21mm f4.

[@Goughie]

It’s small compact size makes it a lovely little lens! And it doesn’t show the awful purple fringing in this test like it does on some digital Leica bodies

[@ericrjennings]

I like the colors. Do you have a video of how you edit these Fuji files?

[@Goughie]

No I don’t actually, that’s something I should do! these were edited in lightroom using one of my presets as a base and just tweaked a little

[@TungstenOvergaard]

I own two f0.95 manual lenses from 7artisans, made for Fuji and I would say the result is very similar. Have you tried them? Nice advices!

[@Goughie]

No I haven’t! I’ve seen them advertised! And always been tempted by them!

[@sachamoule]

I didn't even know there were adapters of this kind! Oh and this place is cute, looks as though Mary Poppins is lurking around the corner 😅

[@patrickispeppa]

So I‘ve got the 35mm Nokton with the original Fuji Adapter and my infinity is right where it belongs. Maybe it does have to do something with the adapter! Anyways, good video. Keep it going :)

[@dylan.thissen]

I use the 21mm with go fuji adapter and have no problems with infinity either

[@roaddogmike]

Nice video. Question: although the focus distance scale isn't accurate at infinity, is it accurate at closer distances of between, say 1-3 meters? I'm considering adapting the 21mm as a walk around lens because the Fuji lenses don't have a hard stop + tab which don't make them very much fun for zone focused imo. To me, the close distances matter much more than infinity.

[@calumetdarren]

Didn't know about that split screen setting where half the screen shows a zoomed in image of the focus box. Cool tip! Thx!

[@Goughie]

I’ve used it a fair bit since!

[@nikolaidoynov1211]

hi. I had the 50mm Nokton 1.5 -> did't initially planned to buy it, but I got it really cheap. Kept it for around 2 years. Beautiful lens, but i noticed that I did not use it much on my then Fuji X-E2 due to the long 75mm eff. vlengh on a crop sensor. So I sold it. I think for a day-to-day use this particular lens (with its vlenght) shines more on a ff sensor / more practcal. Still miss it sometimes, it was a joy to operate it. There I was really impressed with the built and the quality of voigtläner / cosina lenses. Thx for your review.

[@eagleeyephoto8715]

Benefit of Fujifilm adapter is that one is semi electronic and allow to dial in not only focal length , shutting manual by pressing the button but also lens corrections which can be set manually in the menu.All lenses focus at infinity and think that your adapter is nok or need some shims to compensate infinity offset.

[@perrydickerson9055]

Adapted Voigtlander lenses have the same problem on my Canon RP with the infinity focus hard stop. I have the 28, 40 and 75mm lenses. I find it not to be a problem as focus peaking works fine. They were priced right and made a nice light package with my RP. I am happy with image quality and manual focus for my style and situations is probably a better way to go. The fast f stops of these lenses was a big step forward compared to my Canon kit lenses and fast Canon glass was simply not in the budget.

[@SiddhantParkar]

I love using the 40 classic on X mount

[@gabequezada2066]

the fuji adapter does communicate with the camera and lets you fix barrell distortion and other options that are no longer grayed out once you put the adapter on......

[@highlander200107]

I use the VC 40/1.4 S.C. Nokton Classic that I use on my XPro2 or XE3 a lot, and same with my Leitz Canada 90/2 Summicron-M, and that is a fantastic lens with my Fuji bodies.

[@Goughie]

Oooo I imagine the 90mm might actually be a bit easier to focus on the Fuji than a Leica too! Makes for a lovely 135mm! With I imagine the some of the creamiest Bokeh!

[@Mr7Poz]

I love my 50 mm Summicron with Fuji body. I want wider though, and I am stuck.

[@MrBa6]

Benj Haisch reports the same infinity issue even using a Voigtländer 35/1.2 with native Fuji mount without an adapter.

[@djtruedomination]

I adapt several lenses to my Fuji system: Voigtlander 40mm f1.4, Voigtlander 15mm f4.5, Voigtlander 58mm f1.4, Helios 58mm f2 44-2, Autosears 135mm f2.8, Mitakon 85mm f2

[@malcolmtice175]

Great video Goughie....thank you.

[@perryvalton4245]

Beautiful colour rendition.

[@perryvalton4245]

Focus peaking is dreadful on any third party lens on all Fuji cameras.

[@EricPalmerBlog]

Very informative. Thanks for sharing.

[@traintrambus]

Using a 28mm Voitlander on a X-T30 mark II and finding it fine. The camera does not do the split view on the screen like your camera but I do like using focus peeking in red and it works just fine. However I focus every shot and have not yet tried the pre focus so I can’t make a comment about the accuracy. The lens is a Nikon Mount for my Df and on that camera everything is accurate. It is a real bonus to use the lens on the Fuji with the 42mm view and I love it. Thank you for your video.

[@bigdaypictures]

Hi Goughie, does the focus peaking still work correctly? as i am using a x-e4 and is more trouble to use the magnify mode. Thank you

[@Goughie]

It does work correctly yes! I was just stuggling near infinity to tell at what point the peaking was perfect if that makes sense

[@RivkiLocker]

Great overview, thanks! I’m new to Leica (I have the M240 and a couple of voigtlander lenses) and a longtime Fuji shooter. Do you find the same infinity focus issue with your voigtlander lenses on the M240? I’m having that issue when pairing any voigtlander lenses with my M240, thst infinity focus isn’t quite at the end! Have you seen this at all? Thanks

[@Goughie]

all of my voigtlander m mount lenses have focused perfectly on my M240 and M6, I’ve had no issues at all, the 21mm has very bad colour fringing but still focuses correctly

[@RivkiLocker]

@@Goughie thanks! I can’t help but wonder if it’s me or if I’m mistaken. When I focus (whether evf, lcd, or rangefinder ovf) things in the distance aren’t sharp. I didn’t test like on a far off horizon - just in my backyard and on the street. But the things i focused on were 20-30 feet away which should be far enough based on the lens markings. I don’t think it’s the body because close up focusing seems right. It’s just infinity that’s off on all three voigtlander lenses I have. I tested with a canon ltm lens and don’t have the issue. I don’t have any Leica lenses to test with.

[@jorgeperellobonus5214]

Gracias por tu video. Yo utilizo voigtlander en xpro2 pero el problema que tengo es que el visor electrónico se vuelve oscuro...no se porque ocurre esto??

have you considered that your infinity focus problem might just be because of the added distance the adaptor adds between lens and sensor?

[@Goughie]

My understanding is that’s essentially all the adapter does, is move the lens the correct distant from the sensor, and it appears to not be perfectly right, but in reviews the official Fuji adapter has the same issue! So not sure!

[@gabequezada2066]

@@Goughie the higher end adapters have a small screw usually on the inside that when you take that screw out allows you to take the ring out and that bring the lens a tad lower into the mount so you can attain infinity focus... the cheaper mounts do not have that option

[@Fazizeh]

Did you ever end up trying Voightlander's own adapter to see if it helps with the infinity focus?

[@Goughie]

no unfortunately I didn't so can't report anything back

[@miles5790]

could you help me to decide,what combination i should get because i'm confusing to buy one of this three combination to get strong character in their sooc images maybe close to leica look xs10 + voigtlander 35mm f1.2 xs10 + xf33mm f1.4 z5 + voigtlander 50mm f1.5 nokton /35mm 1.7 ultron

[@Goughie]

Hmmm, I’d argue that Leica especially moderns lenses doesn’t have much character at all, they are all very clinical. Have you tried a manual lens on a Fuji before, it’s not the best experience overall

[@miles5790]

@@Goughie this is my first camera i want to buy,so i don't have any experience of image quality from those three camera😅. maybe can you sugest one of those combination that have good image quality especially 3d pop😅

[@miles5790]

@@Goughie is that no different between xf 33 1.4 and ultron 35 1.7/35 1.2 in tearm of image rendering except the bokeh rendering😁

[@JohnDAlmonte]

Have you had a chance to tryout the 35mm Nokton f1.2 for x-mount?

[@J.T.mus1c]

One you get used to having to manually focus to infinity adapting vintage lenses are a lot of fun. I personally got a fuji just to adapt vintage glass. I love the character and imperfections you get with vintage lenses especially when shooting black and white which i do 90% of the time. Currently use a 50mm 1.4 from minoltas af series of lenses and a 24mm 2.8 from nikon as my main lenses. Would love to get my hands on some rangefinder glass, i have always loved the focus knob/notches on the lenses

[@Goughie]

Yes! I’m definitely wanting to pick up cheap vintage glass when it seen it now! On of the reasons I enjoy using voigtlander is that I love the vintage less clinical look they offer whilst still using modern materials and build etc

[@sclogse1]

I find it amazing that focus peaking works at all with manual focus lenses. It's a mysterious process. (Will Fuji ever release a manual only lens?

[@Goughie]

Very true! Never actually stopped to consider how that actually works!

[@karayour7950]

It's literally contrast detection, it has nothing do with the lens. Sometimes I think that more digital photographers would benefit from a simple programmatic image processing course.

[@Kit2Canada]

How about the old “hyperfocal” technique? Choose a middle numbered aperture (say f/5.6), turn the focussing ring so “infinity” is under f/5,6 (not past) now every image from infinitely and back will be in focus. A touch tedious, I know but hey, who’s in hurry.

[@mdjmurray]

Doesn’t the 21mm rear element protrude too far into the camera to be used on an APS-C camera?

[@Goughie]

That’s definitely the stem of the issue on the Leica, where they have such a small distance between lens and sensor, I think it might be Sony that have a similar set up where that distance is small. With Fuji where that distance is bigger it works fine, with the adapter on the end element doesn’t protrude past the adapter

[@jarosawzon4272]

On my FF Sony camera they focus just perfectly.

[@Goughie]

I do wonder if it’s the adapter! Hard to know! As it doesn’t work on my Fuji properly either

[@jarosawzon4272]

@@Goughie But you can buy Voigtlander APO Macro Ultron 35 mm F2 for Fuji X ! This is just incredible APO !!! lens - kzbin.info/www/bejne/oX6zqZp7g8plrMU

[@sammy_sam_leonardo]

Hey Adam, I’m glad I found your channel! I know you mentioned it briefly in the video; but, did using the 21mm f4 on the Fuji clear up all of the weird purple edges that I’ve seen on images with a FF camera? Is there anything else about the 21mm you think I should investigate/consider before getting one for my X-Pro1? Thanks for the video, have a great day… Sam 👍🏼

[@Goughie]

I didn’t have any of the weird purple fringing whilst on the APSC. Just that 21mm is very close to the Fuji 23mm f2 and get weather sealing / autofocus / and faster / and not that much bigger once you factor in the adapter The only good this is getting mechanical manual focus, which for many is more than enough

[@sammy_sam_leonardo]

@@Goughie thanks for that 👍🏼

[@malcolmtice175]

Wish I had seen this before. I had exactly same problem. Bought Color Skopar 35 mm f 2.5 and the same adaptor for my Fuji XE3. Some lovely shots but Infinity varied from 5 metres upwards. Drove me potty. The attraction of the lens was the hard stop at infinity compared to XF lenses. Now gone back to AF lenses A real shame as Loved the lens - so sharp. Might have to get a Leica.....No no no

[@Goughie]

Ahhh similar experience then! I’ll continue to use them when I fancy it, but generally I think it’ll have to be Fuji lenses, or maybe try some native voigtlander lenses

[@J.T.mus1c]

@@Goughie This is sadly the case with pretty much any vintage lens adaptor. Adaptor companys give a little bit of extra space so you can always focus to infinity even with slight differences in fit, temp and build differences.

[@Goughie]

@@J.T.mus1c ahhh! That tolerance makes sense actually! Purposely overshoot it so it always works! I’m just surprised but how far!

[@Mr7Poz]

Funny, I am looking for an alternative to my 23 mm 2 that has more character. I find it so bland. Highlights are wonky, and contrast is not even as good as my pancake 27 mm. Maybe it's my lens. The 23 mm 1.4 is on the list, but I am also looking for alternatives. Ideally, -if Leica made it- would be a 23 mm R lens. That is the look I am going for. A sharp lens that can handle heavy color saturation in post.

[@jasonbokar7482]

I bought an adaptor for my Fuji and my Nikon Z. One lens for two cameras! 😀

[@-grey]

If it was the adapter, it would be the same focus miss across the range. It seems like Voightlander poorly calibrates their lenses. However, Fujifilm too unfortunately. The X70 shoots past infinity too, to the point that the range read out is completely off at most distances.

[@dylan.thissen]

I think that your infinity issues are tied to the adapter because I use an original fuji one that I got second hand and infinity works perfectly for me. Maybe try a different adapter? it should be fine.

[@Goughie]

What lenses have you tried? A few other KZbinrs with the genuine adapters have had issues too, I wonder if it’s a little down to the lens choice as well

[@EduardoRomero1965]

I have a couple of Canon FD lenses, I adapt them to my Fuji XT-1. My favorite is the FD 50mm 1.4 SSC for close-ups and portraits. The bokeh is delightful. Nice video, two thumbs up for you.

[@MrLittlmike22]

can itbe that the focus issue has to do with the adapter? seems to me that this is the only logical explanation?

[@Goughie]

You’d think so, but many people note the same issue on the official adapter

[@richardhale9664]

I adapt a lot of my lenses to my Fuji cameras. Mostly just for fun and for comparative purposes. However some lenses make perfect sense to adapt especially MF macro lenses. Your vintage 50 or 55mm macro which is not very good as a macro on film or FF becomes much more useful in that role on Fuji's crop sensor. I also use MF telephoto lenses as they are easier to use on the format than they are on SLRs. Generally SLR lenses of 35mm or wider are a waste of time as the IQ is just not there. My range finder lenses though are very good, with the only downside to me being the relatively poor close focusing of them. It is nice though to have lenses which serve a dual purpose. For example my 35mm Color Skopar f2.5 is a small light moderate wide angle on film and a small light standard on APSC, producing high quality results on both. With this in mind I have just ordered Voigtlander's new 28mm Ultron F2 Vintage Line. Partly for the fact that it will serve two roles, but also because there is no small light fast lens available for Fuji in this focal range. I love 27-30mm lenses on APSC, much like I love 40-45mm onFF or film. The 27mm pancake is very nice and small, but slow and Kamlan's 28mm f1.4 is very large and heavy (suffers from flare too, so a hood is compulsory which only adds to the bulk). Not being a range finder shooter that often, I don't have the same issue over focusing at infinity as yourself as I have no habit to overcome. I do generally always focus at wide open then stop down, especially when light levels are low. This greatly aids focus accuracy.

[@5000Helme]

Well use Ttartisan. 17mm 1.4 X Mount. Hard stop infinity. A few others can be adjusted by loosening 2 screws. You are adapting Leica mount lenses which won't be perfect in many ways.

[@peterhuang5011]

It is very common to pull back a little bit when trying to focus infinite. Different lens would have different "a little bit"... I have 28mm f2 ultron II, 35mm APO and 50mm f1.5 Nokton, for 35 & 50, that's really "a little bit", for 28, a little bit more...

[@calebe16]

Couldn't this difference in the focus be due to the adaptor having actually the wrong distance? It seems like a plausible explanation for me. It might have the wrong length or just had a not so good quality control.

[@calebe16]

Maybe you could try borrowing other adaptors and see if the problem persists.

[@Goughie]

I thought this! So I had a bit of a google! But the official M adapter from Fuji apparently has the same issue

[@calebe16]

​@@Goughie :-( This is sad and weird.

[@scronier896]

Have you tested infinity focus of the Voigtlander lenses on a Fuji body ? does it work nicely ? (i saw another video few days ago where the guy was saying infinity focus was not optimal with Voigtlander and Fuji, some of his photos were out of focus ....)

[@Goughie]

Have you watched the video? I say in this video that none of them correctly work at infinity

[@scronier896]

@@Goughie No, sorry, i've watched it partially ... sorry for my question, i should have watched it in full.

[@Goughie]

@@scronier896 no worries at all!

[@d.idowuolutosin4250]

Great video. Sorry for the late response but I'm just coming across this one. I am an avid Fujifilm X-Pro3 shooter and I sold ALL of my Fujinon autofocus lenses and replaced them with adapted Voigtlander VM lenses as well as a few Chinacrons from 7Artisans (35mm f1.2 MkII), TTArtisan (50mm f1.2), and ZonLai (22mm f1.8). The Voigtlander lenses I own are the Color Skopar 21mm f4 and the 35mm f2.5. The same 21mm you have. What I've found as it relates to the 21mm f4 is that that lens was really made for crop sensor cameras. There's another 21mm from Voigtlander, the f3.5 and it doesn't have the same issues the f4 version has. I found this out because I shoot with the APS-C Leica CL and all of my Voigtlander lenses are adapted to L mount and work perfectly on this camera. However, on the LUMIX S5, it shows up as an APS-C lens and won't take advantage of the full-frame goodness of the S5. So I'm about to sell the f4 version and buy the f3.5 version. I've tested it and it works perfectly on both APS-C and full-frame without a problem. Also, without focus peaking it would be difficult for those of us with old eyes to get critical focus with manual focus lenses on any Fujifilm camera. For me, it's a big plus and it's rare that I ever lose focus even when shooting movement on the streets.

[@yangfei7187]

l am busy with my camera, because l have many adapters , l have m mount lens adapter for leica L ,fujifilm x-pro3 , olympus .....

[@fintanusa]

Use zone focusing!

[@Goughie]

From memory this video discusses that the distance measurements on the lens do not work, and that focusing at infinity regardless of the f-stop is blurry?

[@fintanusa]

@@Goughie Correct. And zone focusing can take that into account as it covers a zone of in-focus objects. It takes practice, but is much faster.

[@homecareful]

Goughie, according to Fujifilm their M adapter does have electrical contacts. They are used to transfer the EXIF information (just like the Voigtlander Fujifilm manual lenses). kzbin.info/www/bejne/mHnFd6Gaprd1p68

[@winchman]

Pronounciation is: "Fohgtlender" (german)

[@Goughie]

Really helpful thank you

[@77cats-2]

You should really edited that title and mention they're adapted and not native lenses.

[@TheVFXbyArt]

3:07 Yeah. Cheap leica to fuji adapter, thats what you get

[@Goughie]

Reviews of the Fuji adapter are the same

[@dylan.thissen]

@@Goughie personally works fine for me I think the adapter is the problem. I use the fuji one and have no problems at all, out of your lenses I use the 21mm regularly