Full Arch Implant Scanning: Reviewing Shining 3D Aoralscan Elite's Photogrammetry Workflow

[@mattclar]

Interesting to see how it compares to the Nexus workflow

[@InstituteofDigitalDentistry]

So far so good, we will do a comparison in another blog/video

[@andysmarandescu7452]

I don't quite get how could these scan bodies cover for different implant systems. How do such a small number of scan bodies fit on so many types of multi unit abutments? I'm starting out on edentuoulus scans so maybe there's something I'm missing. And one more question: Is it a limited number of implant systems that's supported by shining 3d or it has all of the systems in there?

[@MarcosBorges-ux8ox]

Most MUAs have a compatible platform and use the same screw size for different implant systems. The scan bodies just need to sit properly and stay stable during scanning. I will try to find a compatibility chart and post the link here.

[@quangcuongvu8684]

Yeap - i have the same these questions.

[@MarcosBorges-ux8ox]

I just found this information on their website: "If the physical connecting interface matches, Shining 3D can add a certain implant scanbody into the software. Possibly many existing implant brands are compatible with existing scanbody kits." I guess they need to work a bit on this information as no dentist will buy a photogrammetry device without making sure that it's compatible to the MUAs they use.

[@GustavoCarvalho-y5c]

Hello, I'm Gustavo and I'm an Application Engineer at Shining 3D Dental. We do have 30+ implant systems compatible with our coded scanbodies and I guess I could give you a list if you need. In theory, as Marcos mentioned, we can add any multi unit abutment that shares the same screw we use to the list (will need to confirm screw thread and size if the information is required)

[@MarcosBorges-ux8ox]

@@GustavoCarvalho-y5c Thanks for the clarification, Gustavo.

[@michaelk6957]

I would love to see this with 8 impants. How would all these huge scan bodies fit with ought touching or overlapping one another?

[@InstituteofDigitalDentistry]

I just did a case with 6 implants today. Worked quite well.

[@michaelk6957]

@@InstituteofDigitalDentistry Ok. I am glad you did. But how about implants that are too close to each other? Or what about cases where you have 7 or 8 implants per jaw. Do these scan bodies fit? Its great idea overall but looks a bit impractical with such huge scan bodies.

[@InstituteofDigitalDentistry]

@@michaelk6957 The width of each is about 5mm and fits on the MUA. I don't see it being a massive issue as there are multiple sizes including short, medium and long. Similar to trying to fit photogrammetry flags.

[@InstituteofDigitalDentistry]

@@michaelk6957 If implants are very close together you will have an issue placing the icam scan bodies as well. These scan bodies fit as they come in a range of sizes and the most important thing is that they all point towards the centre. I can see your point but with 7 or 8 implants even placing photogrammetry dies either PIC or ICAM is a nuisance.

[@michaelk6957]

@@InstituteofDigitalDentistry I have used medit, 3shape, Zirkonzahn, ivoclar, open technologies dental lab scanners. I ended up buying the DS ex Pro scanner from Shining for my lab. All i can say is that Shining makes the best scanners from anything i have seen out there. Just wipes the floor in all features. speed, accuracy, software, precision, alignment, size and price! Great company, great innovations.

[@ciucasg.3522]

Does the aoralscan 3d shining has it too?

[@InstituteofDigitalDentistry]

This is only for the Aoralscan Elite.

[@SAZ2027]

Excellent information 👍

[@InstituteofDigitalDentistry]

thanks :)

[@paolof-w1n]

Having used the Aoraolscan elite, If you had to purchase a current scanner for an all on 4 would you get a separate photogrammetry or the all in one Aoral scan? Do you see any short coming with the Elite compared to Medit or 3Shape in scan quality ? Thank you in advance for all the great efforts and knowledge!

[@mattclar]

Great price as well

[@InstituteofDigitalDentistry]

Sure is, it's like getting a photogrammetry kit for free with your scanner.

[@andreasklie1459]

Does this output to Dess scan bodies for the lab.

[@InstituteofDigitalDentistry]

Not yet, but I did ask for you and they said they plan to add it soon

[@andreasklie1459]

@@InstituteofDigitalDentistry thank you, this would be great.

[@SamA-ho8uj]

Photogrammetry companies are dead now, unless they release the same techs with IOS included

[@InstituteofDigitalDentistry]

This is certainly a big disruption to their business model, it will be interesting to see how they respond.