Full Face Of Makeup I'm Throwing Out!!!

[@ShaniGrimmond]

Incase you didn’t listen in the video, I’m not throwing anything out I’m giving it all away. X

[@ClaudiaaMercedes]

Shani Grimmond people seriously don’t listen to you it’s so annoying 🙄

[@jillianmortison9827]

So sassy I love it haha

[@KC-ug8du]

I’m glad you’re doing that xo

[@SinaiRuelas]

Shani Grimmond I totally heard it but I had already posted my comment lol sowwy 🙃

[@laurak5724]

Really love this idea - if you are looking for a charity, share the dignity would appreciate your donations!

[@김여진-i1f]

when shani was putting the foundation on ( 4:59 ) i thought it was on speed mode until she speaks and i was like wwWAIT

[@mollyx3458]

Omg YAS

[@reeree8981]

zoe magnolia SAME

[@makylar_]

ME TOO HAHAHAHAH

[@tristlun]

HAHAHAHAHHA SAME

[@ShaniGrimmond]

stop taking this video seriously, its a bit of fun x

[@oliviapalamara293]

bananahead31 don't tell the creator of the video YOURE WATCHING what to do x

[@demihutton9591]

Shani Grimmond loved this video shani lysm ❤❤

[@hannahreid7271]

if you dont like her vid u dont have to watcc her vids💣🙍

[@sagehoffman2679]

How are u giving away all this gorgeous makeup 😭

[@kylabutcher2390]

i think this video is good...........

[@usermegan.0]

I have never seen someone blend their foundation that quickly lol i died

[@nickcolosimo90]

Megan Dodson Me too! Haha 😂

[@pearlvalles3591]

Me too 😂😂

[@jessicawright877]

Sameee 😂😂

[@KenzieBiedz]

lmao rightttt

[@leenakaur7998]

Mee toooo😂

[@zyhira]

I’m in awe that you even bought that color foundation. 😂 that’s my color and I’m black.

[@blubannie]

She fake tans, I think that’s probably why.

[@abbiedunnavant9242]

She fake tans but it’s still ridiculous that she self tans to the point that she is a person of colors foundation shade

[@melaiav4715]

Haha my shade is 300 aswell and I'm also black. I mean even fake tan she still is not 300 lol girl bye haha

[@kathleenkelly8735]

SHANI. shade 300 in fenty???!!! We have a similar skin tone and I’m shade 170 hun WOT

[@cassiezigray6669]

She spray tans and that is her tan color. Let her be

[@kathleenkelly8735]

cassie zigray noooo she even says the foundation doesn’t match in the video. I’m not attacking her just commenting xo

[@melaiav4715]

Your right I'm 300 in fenty and I'm darker then her tan or no tan not her colour mate!

[@lilyruth6254]

Kathleen Kelly I'm around her shade and I wear 240 lmao

[@rachelrosario7916]

I'm sorry but I work at Sephora and I put this on so many people everyday and it does not oxidize that much. You just have like 5 shades to dark with the wrong undertone.

[@shanayamarie5642]

Rachel Fitts she knows however it does oxidise even still

[@theebarbie8046]

Rachel Fitts lucky

[@theebarbie8046]

I wanna work at Sephora

[@reeree8981]

It oxidizes

[@anikaevanson6578]

Reeree Ramen-Noodles She never said it didn't. She just said it doesn't oxidize as much as she made it seem.

[@tebxxo]

Shani clearly acknowledges that she got the wrong shades in these products and that they don’t work for her specifically ... but so many people in the comments are flipping because she doesn’t like them. Everyone has their own preference! Take a chillllll pill y’all

[@jessicatingle1301]

might as well named this video "products I bought in the wrong color"

[@meagangarrison9066]

Jessica Tingle she basically said that in the video

[@Lalabaster]

Agreed *eye roll*

[@lianagrigoriadi8177]

true

[@isabellgers]

Trueeee

[@imigribble]

cool

[@monicaramos8066]

Shani I don’t even know if you will see this but I’m going through a breakup right now and watching your videos always gets me to look at the brighter side, especially knowing you’ve gone through it too. You really inspire me to keep striving and push myself to get to my dreams. Thank you for being so genuine, kind and free spirited. 💕

[@kayladarcy9993]

I hate the way she is convinced she is soooo tanned when naturally she is fair

[@alliejanelleHTFCQ9632]

kayla darcy yes! "But not me because I'm tan"🙄

[@TeaCosette]

“This would probably look better on someone with fair skin” me without self tanner. 😂😂😂 you mean your face when the foundation color actually matches? Same girl same.

[@pearlvalles3591]

Ik she is annoying

[@payattentionplease1854]

her neck and arms are kinda tan so maybe thats what shes talking about and what she wants to match .

[@gabzlife5415]

pay attention please I believe she fake tans, you can see it in her hands. Her foundation is too dark because she was trying to match her fake tan.

[@laraeden2368]

THE BROWN HAIR AND THE RED GO SO WELL OMG BLESS 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼

[@moniquedanielle3974]

Loved this video!! Also ps you could hold a Guinness world record for fastest beauty blender application, I thought it was sped up until you started talking 😂😂 love you girl x

[@rodiamanuel7370]

K

[@georgialandry7734]

Dude me too

[@dawnmarie447]

Same

[@hghghth9191]

tbh you are the prettiest woman i've ever seen for real! i love watching you! do vlogmas or something like that. maybe a week when you are gonna show us 7 different makeups for holidays, i think that woulb be a fun and helpful idea.

[@CherryTwistXD]

Your foundation shade was 300?? I'm brown and mine is 310, how did you even pick up that shade bahahah wot. It's so yellow based cause those undertones work well for people of colour

[@sharellekelly9046]

Inaya Zubair chances are, she bought it online and tried to match it to her tan shade. Don’t get butt hurt lol

[@TheCaitlyn536]

Sharelle Kelly she’s not even tan lol. It’s SPRAY tan

[@amberrain2129]

TheCaitlyn536 she’d still need it to match her spray tan tho lol

[@sharellekelly9046]

TheCaitlyn536 yeah well whether it’s her real tan or not, she wants the colour to match, what don’t you understand hun?

[@goldengirl7625]

Girl I said the same thing because I know all the 300s shades for the most part is what matches brown girls and lighter skinned black girls lmao

[@lilxleo]

never seen someone use a beauty blender so fast in my LIFE! hahahha shani i love you

[@evanwalls9878]

She’s not really bashing any products she’s literally just explaining why she’s giving them away. It’s a light video why are people getting so upset lol

[@christinapeltier2051]

Evan Walls People are getting upset because she used the words, "makeup I'm throwing out," as click bait, and then hated on the fenty beauty foundation because it oxidized but she just got the wrong shade, then during the video she even stated that she was going to keep some of the makeup. Then also for click bait she used very highly rated makeup and put it on the thumbnail to tick people off.

[@evanwalls9878]

Christina Peltier I guess if that’s worth getting upset over go for it lol. I think she said she was gonna keep some stuff because she really hadn’t given the products enough of a chance before making this video. Tbh I don’t think she sets out “to tick people off” though. Idk

[@christinapeltier2051]

Evan Walls Most youtubers do this, it's called click bait. She is using all popular and highly rated products and stating in the thumbnail that she want to, "get rid of them." She wanted people to think that she thought they were bad as a way to catch peoples attention. In order to make money she has to stand out from other youtubers, even during the video she was saying these products were good. She just wanted people to click on the video for views. I am not upset at this video I was just being objective about the situation and explaing their side to you. Sorry, lol.

[@christinapeltier2051]

Evan Walls And she even said this video was just a bit of fun, so she had thought this through.

[@evanwalls9878]

Christina Peltier I’m familiar with clickbait It just doesn’t trigger me the way it seems to trigger others. But it’s okkkk

[@laurenmorfoot3052]

Whenever I hear "hello my chickens" I just smile and get excited! Thank you Shani for your beautiful videos and all the effort you put into them! You are such a genuine and kind person and always manage to make me laugh and smile xx

[@kylieaaliyah]

I'll take the Kylie palette 😂

[@KenzieBiedz]

lol right

[@Katie-ww2pz]

I would take everything

[@georgiafairhead2114]

KYLIE AALIYAH ikr same

[@oliviacass5025]

same 😂

[@hannahbedford3940]

It’s so inspiring how you stay true to yourself with the hate everyone throws at you, love you shani ❤️

[@fayneerg7265]

I actually really liked the eyebrows and eyeshadow! X

[@emma-rose4027]

Tima Dune I know right! She’s so gorgeous

[@melanieparedes202]

Tima Dune hhh

[@nadaalanazi5855]

Same

[@catemalone645]

I saw you just the other day in my building and all I could stumble out was a “have a good day” but I wanted to say so much more thankyou for everything you do, the video about anxiety and bullying meant a lot to me, I love you so much❤️❤️❤️❤️

[@annabelgreen8701]

To me, it just sounds like she's never used these products before...

[@kaitlynpoling7839]

Annabel yeah bc she changed her mind so many times by saying “oh I’ll keep this it isn’t that bad”

[@omeugatinho]

Love the highlights you did on your hair! Ill be waiting for a video with your hair down! It looks amazing on your pics, really natural, super excited to see on video! Always gorgeous girllll!

[@saramargeret13]

a lot of people use the physician formula “highlighter” as a dewy setting powder

[@LuxuriousGlamourStudio]

Love how you weren't trying to make the products look even worse by not trying because initially you didn't like them; unlike some youtubers would have just not tried. I learnt something for my channel, thanks girl 😘

[@ailsagillies]

is it just me or did this turn out pretty good???

[@emma-rose4027]

Ailsa Gillies yess! I swear she always looks stunning

[@ailsagillies]

I know! I'm so jealous!

[@savannahsilbernagel]

true artists can make anything look good, love shan!!!!

[@b2stcazyfan]

True dat

[@trishaboucher6489]

Shani I freaking adore you. You’re such a peach! Love you girl! You always slay your makeup even if the products don’t work for you!

[@Jalisialuxe]

But that fenty beauty foundation is not even your color. Did you try another shade ?

[@ClaudiaaMercedes]

Jalisia Wright she’s getting rid of it because it’s not her shade tho that’s the reason she doesn’t like it

[@lia9531]

ClaudiaMercedes no foundation she has is her shade tho

[@emilyclark6255]

Jalisia Wright that’s literally what she said. She is only getting rid of it because it’s too dark omg -.-

[@ShaniGrimmond]

true

[@ShaniGrimmond]

yes im going to get another shade i think!

[@breeturner7219]

Yasss perfect timing girl! I’m sitting down doing my makeup before work & always have makeup videos on in front of me!

[@TabMUA]

I couldn’t throw out makeup! Even if I hate it or it’s old! They’re my babies and I’ll keep them in a box or drawer for the rest of time!

[@hghghth9191]

you can give them to someone, keeping them is wasting of product. maybe on someone it will be doing good.

[@raebaddings1521]

TabMUA best to give it away before it expires. Otherwise you’re a hoarder lol

[@SpicySpinach]

I think she was joking 🙃

[@sonzzza]

literally me... I can't throw makeup away even if it's like 10 years old and I'll never use it LMAO. too much of an attachement they're my babies

[@sonzzza]

literally me... I can't throw makeup away even if it's like 10 years old and I'll never use it LMAO. too much of an attachement they're my babies

[@brooklynbond4599]

I love these videos how you’re doing a makeup tutorial but it has a twist😊it’s makes it more interesting to watch💗your skin is flawless and I love you shani😍

[@eduarda3dudah]

you look SOOO CLASSY with this hair. i am obsessed. i feel like i'm watching blair waldorf

[@kieradenise98]

Shani time!! YAAAS now I have something to cheer me up before work 💁🏾

[@pooflame5104]

Your skin is flawless with or without makeup love this video !! 💋

[@emma-rose4027]

Pooflame I know right

[@sophierayle]

Pooflame I knowww so stunning!🙈🙌🏼 I also have a YT channel💕

[@manasareddy3640]

It’s called camera settings

[@viviankotouch2550]

even with all these products you don’t like, you looked flawless shani 🌈💛 your videos bring me smiles 🌼

[@emma-rose4027]

Vivian Kotouch sameeee! Everything makes her look amazing

[@sabiha7702]

sooo weird i have the rcma powder, i'm asian and it doesn't leave a white cast!! it's so odd how differently makeup works for people

[@myhilitepoppin8892]

Girl that lip color looks amazing on u!!!! Especially for the SUMMER!!! 🔆🔆🔆

[@emma-rose4027]

MyHiLitePoppin its looks so nice

[@Amyamyquinn]

Could not stop laughing when you took a chunk out of 'the ugly shade'😂😭😂😭😂

[@MadMax-us9ih]

Amy Q same! I was dying 😂

[@MsGreer01]

🤨😐😐😐

[@fiorelaherrera1259]

How??? Was that funny 😆

[@maddythompson719]

You should do vlogmas since you’re actually a fun time and not boring at all!!! Ily!

[@macyllewellyn7735]

love love loving your hair!💁🏽💓

[@laurinp8839]

I'm actually obsessed with this eye look!!

[@atlbaby93]

How can she be mad at people for saying she’s throwing away the makeup bc THATS THE TITLE OF THE VIDEO

[@atlbaby93]

You also can’t donate most of these products bc they’re used

[@Lalabaster]

This.

[@lilydunfoy151]

If she said “giving away” someone would probably class it as clickbait cause she’s not really giving it away.. she’s not giving it to charity either if you watched the video you’d hear that she is giving it to her friends 😁 xx

[@Katie-dq5jo]

Lily Dunfoy tbh I think she could've said "getting rid of" I think that would've cleared it up for a lot of people

[@Lalabaster]

Lily Dunfoy keyword *giving*

[@sianastley4924]

No matter what make up look you do , like even with products you don't like , you're make up still looks amaziiiiing😩😍

[@franksick5450]

"It makes my face look orange" But... you purposely turn your entire body orange on the regular, sis. I don't get it.

[@ebonydurr4198]

Frankie Smith definition of a airhead

[@franksick5450]

Ebony Durr huh?

[@mousekander2232]

Frankie Smith like when you finally catch a glimpse of her patchy AF orange hands

[@karkat8438]

i choked

[@anamoala4862]

kesleyanne maree Parkinson the foundation was on it

[@mollymcareavey6009]

I actually think that eye look is gorgeous! Your are so gorgeous. Love all your content!! xoxox

[@KirstieRoche]

You still look hot orange 🙈💁🏼

[@maddiec.6503]

Kirstie Roche i always see your comments on her videos and i click on your channel because i think your so gorgeous and every time i do i realize i’m already subscribed. much love.

[@KirstieRoche]

Maddie C. Yeah I love watching Shani 🙈 Haha Thanks beautiful x

[@nataliaopoku]

Mark Locke lmao teaaa

[@KirstieRoche]

Mark Locke obviously lol.

[@sabrinalocke2846]

Kirstie Roche if she was a citrus... she’d be a ~cutie~!

[@hayleyh5873]

You saying “are you serious” activated my DAMN SIRI AHAHHAAH 😂❤️❤️much love

[@atlbaby93]

The disrespect to the fenty foundation hurts my heart

[@tahliaedmunds1460]

ckammm she didn’t tho, she said it looks beautiful on theskin😂🙄

[@ginanickatina]

All she said was she accidentally picked the wrong shade. She never disrespected it or said anything bad about it.

[@atlbaby93]

When has she ever picked the right foundation shade tho

[@ginanickatina]

ckammm true lol

[@steviem7543]

ckammm you disrespecting her hurts my heart

[@danielleyouie8028]

i kept seeing you as shay mitchell in some parts of the video because i feel like she wears eyeshadow like this and now that you have dark brown hair it makes you look so much like her

[@danielleyouie8028]

especially after you put the bronzer on aswell because it kin of made you more toned like she is

[@lizzyandethanforever]

The fenty is the wrong shade before oxidizing? You just don’t know what to buy

[@chc717]

Elizabeth Alexander she literally said it was wrong and then gets worse when it dries

[@allisontempleton9845]

She knows what she is doing just made a mistake lmao

[@heyhelloitshannah1153]

She literally said that.

[@nikitatulk1479]

you need to actually watch and listen to the video before commenting stuff that has already been said. If you actually paid attention then you would know that she said "WRONG COLOUR" And if you think your comment is original, well its not. your like the 100th person to say that so.

[@alondra7356]

I clicked as fast as I could I LOVE YOU !!!!!😩❤️❤️❤️❤️

[@TatjanaWilliams]

I lost it when you applied the foundation😂 Love u so much!

[@emma-rose4027]

Tatjana lol😂❤️

[@amandavaldegas7500]

The Too Faced ‘milk chocolate’ bronzer is my favorite for the winter time when my tan fades, I love Hoola for the summer.

[@oliviayeomans8191]

Loving your new hair, you look so gorgeous!! Love you so much xxx

[@emma-rose4027]

Olivia Yeomans omg I know right! I swear she would suit every hair colour

[@nikkijones4293]

My shani is back and ready to slay! 😍😍😍💕

[@marycsellers2804]

have u tried getting a different shade of foundation cuz it was too dark before it even oxided

[@JessDownard]

I loved the eyeshadow colours in this video! Suited your brown eyes and hair so beautifully!

[@emma-rose4027]

Jess Downard she is so gorgeous

[@JessDownard]

Emma-Rose I know lil stunnnaaa

[@touringbenidorm]

Damn Shani the speed of you with that beauty blender😂. Could be a sport AHHAHA x PS ur slaying as always!!

[@ameliatc1162]

Amazing babe! Love you so very much, such an inspiration

[@nxavierc]

girl you pounce so fast with that beauty blender that i thought you edit it into high speed LOL that is a skill

[@teagantalks]

I'm such a hoarder when it comes to makeup omg!! This video was so entertaining Shani

[@nayah7308]

Don't complain about the foundation when you bought the wrong shade

[@tahliaedmunds1460]

Nayah lawrence she literally said she bought the wrong shade😂🙄 she said it beautiful on the skin ffs

[@jessicawright877]

She said it’s her own fault about the shade and she did say it dried quick so that’s a complaint that isn’t about the shade so she doesn’t like it

[@KenzieBiedz]

agreeeeed

[@gabystan6256]

R U dumb she said it’s beautiful she just has the wrong shade

[@dianaq4713]

“These are not products that I hate, they just didn’t work for my skin tone”

[@taylorsmyth6539]

Face mask, cuppa, early night & Shani = perfect wednesday night 😘❤

[@fra183]

"not me because i'm tan" i think i laughed too much

[@yazzy6017]

Your messy pony looks soooooo good! Slaying as always ily

[@Gamergurl1405]

PSA Fenty oxidises. Nothing changes that. She literally owned up to buying the wrong shade why are you all hating? And she has a fake tan. That’s why she said ‘I’m tan’ because she has a tan on her body. The fuck do you expect her to do put pale as fuck foundation on her face and have a dark body? Like damn chill the fuck out.

[@mariangely9546]

Phoenix Renee it oxidizes. nonetheless, that foundation was way too dark for her. It doesn't even match her "tan" neck 🤷🏼‍♀️

[@Gamergurl1405]

Angie I literally said that in the first three sentences I wrote. ‘PSA Fenty oxidises’ was the first thing I said in my comment. ‘She literally owned up to buying the wrong shade’ was the third sentence. So that’s for telling me what I already know 💁‍♀️

[@flowers.9936]

The E.L.F concealer is hydrating and infused with aqua water, I believe, so that's probably why it was quite watery on you Shani. However, it brightened the under-eyes perfectly.

[@jaydeholland1337]

I'm no make up expert but I actually didn't mind that look. I think you looked so pretty! :)

[@hannamaree7534]

I‘m literally shade 300 in fenty lmaooo

[@aaliyahm1134]

Sameeee

[@hollylemons]

i LOVE the dark hair!

[@MaddisonBunny]

Nah.. never have I seen someone dab their beauty blender so fast in my entire life 😂

[@lifesjems]

I loved how there were a few that made their way back to your collection 😂😂loved this idea!! ❤️

[@mafaldacapa8041]

"have a nice life down there" lmao

[@emma-rose4027]

Mafalda Capa lolo

[@andthatsthetea6978]

So funny, so pretty, so talented 💙 I love you Shani!!

[@mayamoloney9380]

You weren’t kidding when u said you were gonna work fast applying the foundation 😂

[@cloeebryant7871]

still living for your new brown hair girl i love it 💕

[@natalieellingbo7853]

“i’m really tan” you’re like vanilla white hun

[@juliathigpen7070]

Um no she isnt lollll

[@maggieangel9267]

I use 90% of these products and I’m a POC and they work wonders on me! I think you just need the right shades

[@dietriterocks]

When you title a video "makeup I'm throwing out" and add a few exclamation points, it's obvious that the implication is is trash aka not a good product. Almost everything she was "throwing out" was either because SHE got the wrong color, she used it wrong or has another product that is similar. The title is most definitely clickbait. She knew exactly what she was doing having those products in the thumbnail and using that title.

[@lilliangrace1961]

dietriterocks the title is exactly what the video is, not clickbait.

[@dietriterocks]

LillianGrace Well thanks for your opinion. Now I can sleep easy.

[@brittanyley4170]

You have such a stunning face shape! Strange compliment I know but it's amazing to see how the makeup just enhances your natural beauty 😊

[@emma-rose4027]

Brittany Ley yes I have thought that!

[@lilycox1912]

Oh my god when you were putting on your foundation I thought it was sped up but you started talking and it was normal speed U SPEEDY SISTA

[@hollybaston1732]

With the Marc Jacobs setting mist , it leaves dots if u don't shake it , give it a really good shake and hopefully it works ! Xxxxx

[@steveandnadia]

For a second there, I thought you fast forwarded the part you were blending in the foundation....haha I was shook how quick you can blend it out!

[@ginanickatina]

Everyone keeps commenting "your foundation is the wrong color" um she literally says in the video (if you paid any attention to it) that it's the WRONG COLOR & that's why she's giving it away. GEEEEZ!!!

[@mollymiller8286]

Oh my actual god people need to leave her aloneeeee like seriously if you have a problem with her or her makeup or the way she does her videos then here’s a piece of advice .. DONT WATCH AND KEEP YOUR COMMENTS TO YOURSELF

[@Ari-uv8no]

Just wanted to let you know Shani, that you are such an influential youtuber. Much love

[@user-zq5ff9bu8o]

Rihanna fans are so quick to judge when someone doesn't like her makeup line. I like rihanna but my drugstore foundations are better than hers🙃

[@shawnacrawford6904]

😂😂

[@ninjaturtles12121]

wait nyma tang who does the darkest shade testing series uses rcma no color powder with a variety of finishes n she is very very deep skin color n no white cast at all....its her fav powder n she uses dewy finish b/ of her dry skin!! def keep trying the powder it is great I love it.

[@shawnyhancock1092]

i'm watching this while getting tattooed :)

[@emma-rose4027]

Shawny Hancock ohhh good luck

[@mariahw7451]

Thats cool, what’re you getting done

[@shawnyhancock1092]

Mariah W i got some flowers around my ankle!

[@raeganvaughn1895]

How'd it go dahl!?💁💋💋

[@theebarbie8046]

What u get did it hurt

[@madiwhelan6539]

I love your hair dark! It looks amazing on you ❤️

[@Jenna-hr5in]

Why are ppl so rude to shani these days :( Keep being you shani!!! Love u from the start xxx

[@chantelletaylor2142]

so beautiful Shani😭😍, your videos are amazing🤪

[@Labbybear101]

Most down to earth KZbinr out there. So grateful for you Shani ✨❤️

[@sarahcadogan4777]

absolutely stunning dal

[@sophiegalloway440]

Start of video: so I’m gonna do a full face of products I’m throwing out. End of video: * keeps most of them because realises they aren’t that bad* This is soo meeee!!!😂😂😂

[@hannahforsythe7225]

💓just a lil tip : rihanna’s fenty beauty foundations have cool tone and warm tone shades, so maybe yours just didn’t fit your undertones. i’m sure you could find your shade somehow! loved the opinion/ input though!💓

[@sg-rb2ht]

I don’t think it’s fenty’s fault she looks like an orange... I’m pretty sure it’s her color matching.. no hate I’m just saying!

[@KS-xf4bv]

Yeah she mentioned that she likes the formula just couldn’t wear it cause of the shade she bought.

[@amityyoung1039]

Your makeup is so flawless!

[@lizzyandethanforever]

6:50 you are really pale you aren’t tan

[@chc717]

Elizabeth Alexander she’s not pale at all. You’re obviously here to hate based on your multiple negative comments. Bye

[@nadinehugec684]

candice l her natural skintone is pale, but she fake tans ahah

[@nadinehugec684]

__shaniamarie__ “she’s not pale at all” implies they don’t know her natural skin tone is white af. Some people are new to her channel. Why don’t you calm down and go live your life sweaty :)

[@heyhelloitshannah1153]

She fake tans.

[@shanayamarie5642]

Cindy Clark are you talking to me?