Full Frame vs Crop Sensor - What's the difference?

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Hyun Ralph Jeong

Hyun Ralph Jeong

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@BikerMiceOne
@BikerMiceOne 5 жыл бұрын
The biggest diffrence between fullframe and apsc is me not eating for a month.
@rraphamonkey8312
@rraphamonkey8312 4 жыл бұрын
you eat a lot
@Elienguitar
@Elienguitar 4 жыл бұрын
@@rraphamonkey8312 ^^
@nykynkyra
@nykynkyra 4 жыл бұрын
hahahahahaha :D
@torben6137
@torben6137 4 жыл бұрын
Brilliant way of looking at it 😂
@pollytodd7579
@pollytodd7579 4 жыл бұрын
aris gemino that made me chuckle.....
@dct124
@dct124 5 жыл бұрын
This video is by far the most accurate on this topic.
@patricksmith2553
@patricksmith2553 5 жыл бұрын
Nope sorry, he was doing so well, until he said that full frame camera's gather more light or more total light. This is just wrong and untrue, I'm so sick of Tony Northrup and other's constantly keeping this myth alive. I know what they are trying to explain...but they are doing it in the wrong way or at very least with the wrong words! Beginner's continue to be mislead by people who say things that are lies, even if they are unintended lies. I know this guy here means well and like Tony Northrup, seems like a very nice guy, but they are both wrong and I think deep down they know it, but can't a find a better way to explain this topic. Ken Wheeler or the "angry photographer" is the only one I have seen, online who can explain this in the proper way. Period.
@dct124
@dct124 5 жыл бұрын
@@patricksmith2553 I'm wondering if Tony isn't fixing what he says due to what's possibly in his book. Larger sensors do typically have more stops of dynamic range based on camera technology from the same generation. As tech progresses the lines blur even more with dx, fx and mf
@patricksmith2553
@patricksmith2553 5 жыл бұрын
@@dct124 Dynamic range is not affected by sensor size either though, but I know what you're trying to say. Tony Northrup and this guy here seem like nice and decent people. So I don't know why they lie or continue to push this untrue narrative about DX sensors. Tony also recently said some bizarre things about crop sensor's, like the 90D had no good lenses for it. As if ALL Canon EF lenses somehow do not work on it? I don't know what he's smoking, oh and also he said the other day that full frame lenses are "less sharp" on crop sensors. Which makes no sense and is actually the opposite of the truth, because DX sensors only use the center portion of a full frame lens, which is the sharpest part. So I'm not sure what the hell is his problem and this guy here, well he is just telling people what he learned from other people. However most people have learned incorrectly or are just talking out their asses.
@NGameReviews
@NGameReviews 5 жыл бұрын
@@patricksmith2553 If you have a bigger sensor, the pixels per square inch gather more light due to the larger pixel size. It's simple really. And you didn't disprove that.
@patricksmith2553
@patricksmith2553 5 жыл бұрын
@@NGameReviews You're 100% wrong and even the author of this video has since admitted he was mistaken. Sensors are not like buckets or solar panels. All sensors gather the same light, just as all lenses poop out their backside the same light, regardless of sensor being used. All you have done is made up a more elaborate lie and just because you believe it, does not make it true. If larger sensors or even larger pixel sites gathered "more light" than your exposure would be different. I've been an award winging professional photographer for 18 years now. My images have been published countless times in most of the biggest publications you can name. I love teaching and helping young photographers out and even do guest appearances at schools whenever asked. What I don't do is argue and fight with people like you, when it is obvious you're not here to learn, you're here to prove the lies you believe in are true. It's not a big deal really, but you should be careful who teaches you photography, because Tony and Chelsea, Jared Polin and Matt Granger are all idiots who are not even any good at photography. They make things up out of thin air and pimp out gear, with affiliate links and sponsors, begging you to subscribe, etc, etc.
@andrewdoeshair
@andrewdoeshair 3 жыл бұрын
I realized recently while helping a friend find a first portrait camera that the price jump from a crop sensor (say SL3 or M50) to a full frame camera (say EOS RP or 6Dii) is smaller than the price difference from an F1.8 lens to an F1.2 lens. This was completely worldview shifting for me, I always assumed crop sensor was just cheaper, period, in all cases... If a shallow DOF is a high priority then its actually cheaper for the whole setup to get a full frame body with say and 85mm F1.8 than it is to get a crop sensor body with say a 50mm F1.2 lens (1.2 times 1.6 is 1.92, almost 1.8)... I feel like this information needs to be shared with more first time camera buyers, especially when they want to focus on portraits.
@anishdhamane5819
@anishdhamane5819 2 жыл бұрын
This definitely helped me get a different perspective 🙌
@pierrekroupensky
@pierrekroupensky 2 жыл бұрын
Totally
@Stan_the_Belgian
@Stan_the_Belgian 6 ай бұрын
Thats why i got a 5d with a portrait lens for super cheap, a 6d would indeed be even better
@rsat9526
@rsat9526 4 ай бұрын
Well this is true 3 years ago when you commented this but nowadays F1.2 APSC lenses are available at very very high quality at a lot lower cost (i.e. Viltrox Pro lenses) and I am 100% sure if the picture is not taken and compared side by side you will never be able to tell which photo is taken by which sensor size. That's not to say you are wrong though since this comment was from 3 years ago.
@andrewdoeshair
@andrewdoeshair 4 ай бұрын
@@rsat9526 yeah those newer third party super fast lenses are game changers for sure. There’s still a handful of looks achievable with full frame that a crop sensor can’t match, like a 105mm F1.4 on full frame or 85mm F1.2. Technically speaking you can’t match them with aps-c but practically speaking who cares, it’s easy to get similar enough results 😂 it took me too many years to realize the answer to “crop sensor vs full frame” is to just own both because they each have their own benefits. When I want a more shallow DOF from a smaller package I bring a full frame camera. When I want more reach from a smaller package I bring a crop sensor camera. For a minute I was carrying a 40D with a 100mm F2 just as a fun daily carry, and the reach I got out of it blew my mind for how small and cheap the package is, it made me look at full frame as inferior for the first time, and afterward I felt pretty enlightened 😂
@ponchee
@ponchee 5 жыл бұрын
Such a difficult topic to discuss but I'm glad you explained it to dummies like me.
@HyunRalphJeong
@HyunRalphJeong 5 жыл бұрын
1PonchMan Glad you enjoyed it :)
@KaneTownBeats
@KaneTownBeats 5 жыл бұрын
I'm dummy too.
@fortumeo933
@fortumeo933 5 жыл бұрын
@@KaneTownBeats im still so confused i'm a dummy too haha
@patricksmith2553
@patricksmith2553 5 жыл бұрын
It is very complex, but mostly because people like this were taught wrong or are copying what other people have said, which is wrong. I'm sorry I don't mean to sound mean, but this guy and Tony Northrup are just plain wrong or lying to everyone! Crop sensor's do not gather less light or "total light" and anyone who says they do, is either mistaken or an idiot and this guy here seems super nice, so I wager he has learned incorrectly from someone else. Ken Wheeler or "the angry photographer" seems to be about the only one on youtube who can explain this in the proper way and without making things up or lying. Go watch his videos', there's no need for me to explain this, when he has so well, already!
@HyunRalphJeong
@HyunRalphJeong 5 жыл бұрын
@@patricksmith2553 Sorry I think it was a misuse of words on my part (perhaps Tony Northrup's too but haven't seen his video about the topic). What I meant by "gathering more light" wasn't that the exposure will be brighter, but if there are same number of pixels, bigger sensors will perform better.
@bpvirgo
@bpvirgo 5 жыл бұрын
So clear, so concise: you’re an example of how to do these videos. Thank you!
@HyunRalphJeong
@HyunRalphJeong 5 жыл бұрын
Benjamin Virgo Glad you enjoyed it!
@Isaharif
@Isaharif 2 жыл бұрын
Spot on
@PeterandYen
@PeterandYen 5 жыл бұрын
Personally I would like to shoot with full frame just so I can do more in low light. But this is an incredibly informative video that really helps with my decision making. Thanks a lot for doing all the in depth research and putting this one together Ralph. Back ground blur is not too important to us actually. Really appreciate this!
@mvhan911
@mvhan911 5 жыл бұрын
The low light and background blur advantage is only valid when shooting wide open. When you have to step down to achieve enough depth of field for landscape or multiple people being in focus in one shot you will get an equivalent f-stop number for example f4 or 5.6 on FUllframe which is f2.8 or 4 on APSC crop. Then the total amount of light going through the lens is the same and the noise and background blur is the same. So it really comes down to it depends on your needs and application.
@glacieractivity
@glacieractivity 5 жыл бұрын
this is a very important point that is rarely mentioned. For us who are (in general) striving more working to deepen the DOF, the sensor-size is a non-issue.
@kenjiyamamoto423
@kenjiyamamoto423 3 жыл бұрын
Then is there a crop lenses can compete with 2.8 fullframe lense? Fullframe will still the best,.
@ThisIsDavesGarage
@ThisIsDavesGarage Жыл бұрын
@@kenjiyamamoto423 You can use ff lenses from Sony E and Nikon Z on their mirrorless APSC so that point is null
@PPISAFETY
@PPISAFETY 2 жыл бұрын
This was a very clear and concise explanation of the differences between full frame and crop sensor cameras. About the only thing I might have added is that while you can multiply the crop factor times the f-stop to approximate equivalent depth of field, exposure does not change simply because you are using a crop sensor camera. This ought to be clear to most photographers, but some KZbinrs have put out incorrect information on this point. But you did a great job, and when beginners ask me about this, I'm just going to have them watch your video. On the differences between the two, I have been in photography for over 50 years, and often made my living with a camera. Aside from film, which I now shoot strictly for personal enjoyment, I have three mostly separate digital camera systems I use. One is built around an older pro-level full frame DSLR, another around a somewhat more advanced crop sensor DSLR, and the third is built around a Micro 4/3rds camera. When I am going out to make images to hang on my wall, or doing a portrait, I typically reach for full frame. My day in and day out work, which involves illustrating books and shooting training videos, calls for the crop sensor setup (my full frame camera doesn't do video at all). And when I travel and just want to take a camera along, I reach for my bag with the Micro 4/3rds mirrorless camera in it. Let me just say this. In more than 50 years of selling my work with a camera, no customer has ever commented on the amount of background blur in my photos. What they are looking for is an interesting and in most cases a pleasing photo. I say in most cases because I used to do crime scene work and it is hard to make those shots pleasant. If today I was forced to choose one system for general photography, I'd probably select the crop sensor DSLR. But since I generally use older tech, fortunately my three systems cost me less than one brand new DSLR with lens. And guess what? Nobody notices.
@amoghpadhye6088
@amoghpadhye6088 5 жыл бұрын
Generally, Full Frame is used where enlargements are involved (like landscapes). And Crop Sensors are used where the image captured is cropped later (like images of birds)
@speterlewis
@speterlewis 5 жыл бұрын
This was very helpful, but some people may be confused by your discussion of extra "reach" with an APSC camera. Several times you point out that the images on the two sensors area exactly the same size (as seen at 2:12 in the video). The fact is that a full-frame camera captures more data, while the APSC camera simple captures the data from the middle of the image. Import both into Photoshop and you will see that the two images are identical, but the full-frame has more data around the edges. And you're right about applying the crop factor to the maximum aperture of the lens: that is absolutely true, and you do a great job of explaining that! And your discussion of noise is spot-on, to. (That's why it's also helpful to use the crop factor with ISO.) In the end, this is a complex and difficult subject, and in the end, it may not matter from a practical standpoint. I've been a professional shooter for over 30 years, first with film, and now with APSC cameras, and my clients have always been really happy. The gear these days is all very good, so go out with whatever you have and work on being a better photographer!
@HyunRalphJeong
@HyunRalphJeong 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I feel like there aren't any bad cameras on the market. You just have to find the one you like.
@tecnolover2642
@tecnolover2642 5 жыл бұрын
Good video. One thing you forgot to mention. Full fame (modern sensors) typically have more dynamic range. This can be important! Especially if you don't want to exclusively take multiple exposures every time and blend in post.
@TravisAtreo
@TravisAtreo 4 жыл бұрын
Brotha thank you! I finally get it now after all these years and watching confusing explanations haha appreciate it man!!
@mech-tech4779
@mech-tech4779 4 жыл бұрын
The same here.
@orangejuice9074
@orangejuice9074 3 жыл бұрын
Damn me too!
@HampshireHog63
@HampshireHog63 4 жыл бұрын
I've taught this to students on photography courses for over ten years. I've a course starting next week, so was having a quick look at KZbin for new ways to put the concept across. I've used the projected image and sensor size on powerpoints before, but really like the way you've done the same thing but transposed onto the DSLR with the lens removed. Excellent!! I may be 'borrowing' that idea. I'll also be adding your video to the homework list of videos for the students top watch. Thanks!
@bastiaanw3519
@bastiaanw3519 5 жыл бұрын
Although this information is readily available in many other videos and website, you are the first one to really point out to also take into account the aperture. And noone ever explained it so clearly. Thumbs up!
@HyunRalphJeong
@HyunRalphJeong 5 жыл бұрын
Bastiaan W Thank you for the kind words!
@lilaznkid00
@lilaznkid00 5 жыл бұрын
One of the most informative photography channels on KZbin. So under rated. Please keep doing more. You’re incredible
@HyunRalphJeong
@HyunRalphJeong 5 жыл бұрын
lilaznkid00 Thank you and really appreciate the comment!
@chrisoleary8401
@chrisoleary8401 3 жыл бұрын
Finally I can talk with other photographers about full frame and crop sensor, rather than just nodding as though I know what they're talking about. Thanks.
@STANDRDUSER
@STANDRDUSER 4 жыл бұрын
I already understand crop sensors, it’s nice to watch educational videos from time to time. I have a Sigma SDQH (APS-H) with a crop factor of 1.3, and with vintage lenses, my 35-105mm is actually 46-137mm. It’s really fun to use when at 85mm.
@vianditya
@vianditya 5 жыл бұрын
Other thing about light gathering capabilities, APSC have the advantage and can be more usefull than FF...because the 1.2 lens will gather as much as light as 1.2 on FF camera. Let's say you want to get a DOF of 1.8 because you want two or more thing in focus, but you will have less light..but if you using APSC, you can get more light at 1.2 and the DOF of 1.8.
@vusalnovruzov-actor3111
@vusalnovruzov-actor3111 8 ай бұрын
Absolutely 👍
@ariotriwibowo
@ariotriwibowo 4 жыл бұрын
you speak clearly, good tone, articulation and speed.
@Forkit956
@Forkit956 5 жыл бұрын
Before I had any Sony full frames, I was doing 100% of my work on a crop sensor. It gave me what I needed. Now I've added two full frames and love that I can use my crop sensor lens on them as well.
@Bampiss
@Bampiss 5 жыл бұрын
I'm using sony &!thinking about upgrading to full frame too. How's your experience about it. I heard that if you use a crop sensor lense on a ff camera you'll loose the quality immensely. So to get the highest quality i need to invest on a FF lense which doesn't come cheap. Especially sony😅. What's your take on that?
@peterjackhandy
@peterjackhandy 5 жыл бұрын
So - the nitty-gritty... A crop-sensor camera is always going to be at a disadvantage to a full-frame, other than in the direction of size, weight & cost. These 3 factors increase exponentially when applied to lens, particularly those above 200mm. So - The next time some smartar$e asks me if using my Fuji x-t2 & 100-400 lens (+1.4 t/c) makes me a better photographer, I can honestly answer 'YES', because I have to work harder to overcome its shortcomings 👍
@TTROPVNR
@TTROPVNR 4 жыл бұрын
actually crop are better for wild life because you actually get a bit closer du to the crop, It loses in close up and win in furthest distance.
@richardperkins2605
@richardperkins2605 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome way to explain a otherwise difficult issue, especially how lens selection fits in. Speaking from an old school perspective, started shooting film in 1978, it's still amazing how many people don't understand that it is the lens that ultimately determines the quality of the capture, whatever the resolution or crop! Thanks for a great video!
@HyunRalphJeong
@HyunRalphJeong 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it.
@richardrichardson5312
@richardrichardson5312 5 жыл бұрын
this guy is really good at explaining things in a simple, straightforward way.
@MCM686
@MCM686 5 жыл бұрын
I'm a beginner and I recently started doing photography for the last 3 months and this is a very informative video, in the future I will get me a full frame camera.
@RajagopalaRaoS
@RajagopalaRaoS 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing video About to watch part 2 Just would like to point this out though, the crop sensor vs full frame is usually handled in a more indoor / portrait photography sense A point we must remember is to deal with it in other scenarios such as say wildlife where the crop is actually useful. Quality ofcourse is affected but the trade off is more useful. Again frame rates too apply and how the crops give additional focal length Its a complicated topic and must always be approached use based. A full frame is not always better For example, a 5D mark ii is worse than a 7D mark ii for wildlife. Think about your situation, always :) Thank you
@anandaabey7237
@anandaabey7237 3 жыл бұрын
👏👏👏🇦🇺💕 Appreciate
@Remer714
@Remer714 4 жыл бұрын
Great explanation. The differences between 1x-Crop and 1.6x-Crop seem minimal but a 1" or even 1/2.3" sensor with crop factors of 4-6 would show the drastic difference.
@Gatewayvick
@Gatewayvick 5 жыл бұрын
Love the way you explained this, you got to the point very clearly !
@MeganMarieT
@MeganMarieT 5 жыл бұрын
I really like the point you made around 9:00 about asking yourself if anybody will notice the extra crop and look down on you for using a crop sensor. I honestly thought I should be using a full frame to get better looking photos and videos and to be more professional. But, people probably won’t even notice. I think I’ll save several hundred dollars on my first camera and get a crop sensor. Thanks for your help!
@dodzb7362
@dodzb7362 5 жыл бұрын
Been using 60D for along time. I mostly expend on lighting and speedlights and make dynamics and flexibility in my photos. I dont let people dictate me "resolution size is better" hahahaha
@Revolution-tl5wo
@Revolution-tl5wo 3 жыл бұрын
This was extremely helpful! I started on a Nikon D3100 when full frames were barely even a thing, and the range of APS-C lenses and the usability of my Nikon kept me happy for all but my low light shooting. FF a few years, and I haven't had a proper camera at all for awhile, until I got my hands on a used EOS Rebel SL1. Now that I'm gearing up again, I already started having gear envy and planning my lens goals with it in mind to level up to full frame and take the lenses with me. However, I want to get the most out of the camera body I have and enjoy it until I can get a full frame body. Adding to that is the confusion over DSLR v. mirrorless and arrrrgh! Your videos are well organized, insightful, and clear. Thanks!
@TheHungryBlackPanda
@TheHungryBlackPanda 5 жыл бұрын
I have use both crop and a full frame sensor 40d and 5k mk1...I use both base if I'm doing portrait style or scenery or large scale shots..both great sensors but you went into even more detail info with the specs...I find full frame more ideal for me when I was shooting..great info on these cameras sensors
@vontrap6942
@vontrap6942 3 жыл бұрын
I'm looking to upgrade my wife's 7D for a full frame camera, the EOS RP mirrorless looks a good option which is full frame - she wants something smaller but very capable. This video is very useful in helping me understand the difference not coming from a photography background.
@FiveMinuteSneakerTV
@FiveMinuteSneakerTV 5 жыл бұрын
This is a very good summary/session. I am proud I actually know this hahahaha. I did some research when switching to full frame 7-8 years ago. In reality tho for me, my photos sucked before and after the change (lol) but I can create better bokeh and shoot lower light settings better.
@lescobrandon3047
@lescobrandon3047 5 жыл бұрын
In the past, smaller pixels meant less light absorbed and recorded, if I remember right.
@MrSaeedted
@MrSaeedted 5 жыл бұрын
This video explained the differences better than any other video than I have seen. Great work.
@HyunRalphJeong
@HyunRalphJeong 5 жыл бұрын
Ted Okoroji Thank you!
@stevencharles2808
@stevencharles2808 5 жыл бұрын
Just shows you how impressive fujifilm cameras perform despite being cropped.
@HyunRalphJeong
@HyunRalphJeong 5 жыл бұрын
Also they make the best aps-c lenses :)
@stevencharles2808
@stevencharles2808 5 жыл бұрын
@@HyunRalphJeong As a Canon user, for months I've been struggling between the EOS R or the A7iii as an upgrade, than I see videos like yours and others on the Fujifilm X cameras, and I'm now more confused then ever on what to choose!!! Lol
@bfs5113
@bfs5113 5 жыл бұрын
@@stevencharles2808 Option 1: Forget about APS-C since FF is the de facto standard. Everything else is the other format (a niche or format created in the early days when manufacturing of FF sensor was too expensive). Think of FF in term of standardization. There isn't any need to think about crop factors and everything one learned in the past (even decades ago) is the same in the future. There is no upgrade, changes or debate for FF users. Cameras today are mostly about the sensors (film). Look at Panasonic already entered into FF manufacturing and Canon/Nikon only introduced FF mirrorless cameras. In other words, while Fujifilm sensors still make sense today, but for how long? That's why Fujifilm has MF as well, so that they can hold out fighting the FF war as long as possible. FF is popular among most pros because of standardization and availability of pro grade cameras and lenses. Although the gap is narrowing. They aren't the ones that switch brand every few months, but instead concentrate on earning a living without wasting time re-train muscle memory. Option 2 (for the new generation of photographers): Stay with APS-C since it is their standard and FF is an upgrade. What you don't know doesn't hurt. Just like vloggers still shooting with smartphones and P&S (G7X II/RX100 V), and M3/4 or APS-C will be an upgrade for them. Is Fujifilm APS-C really that great? Sean Tucker recently purchased a Ricoh GR-III, Eric Kim uses Ricoh GR-II, Hugh (Three Blind Men and An Elephant) loves his Leica Q, etc. The latest Fujifilm camera is liked Sony A7III in 2018; the current valued camera with top specs.
@barrycohen311
@barrycohen311 5 жыл бұрын
@@bfs5113 Sony is not a camera company. They are a computer electronics company with no history in photography or lenses. They are mere toys for pixel peepers. Having said that, I do agree FF is better, for many reasons.
@johncastle95
@johncastle95 5 жыл бұрын
Baruch Cohen I personally dont own one but what you said is false. They are a photography and video company now for a long time. Their low light capability is triumphantly better than most of the competition and the A7S models don’t even have that much pixels but have usable low light pixels to film in low light conditions. There is a reason Planet Earth 2 used a Sony for night shots. I respect all companies in the camera manufacturer market. Sony has aps-c to FF sensors and they have an unbelievable range of available lenses now. It is a camera company and a damn good one at that.
@Skeletomania
@Skeletomania 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the explanation. Majority of the videos spent more time on the camera itself than actually explaining the difference in formats
@wparo
@wparo 3 жыл бұрын
The dislikes are from medium format users
@lucannon
@lucannon 4 жыл бұрын
By far the best Explanation of the crop sensor I have seen in all these years.
@christytran
@christytran 5 жыл бұрын
So grateful that such an informative video exists. I’ve been into photography or years and have gotten great photos from my iPhone but I’ve been feeling limited. The selection of DSLRs and lens have always been too overwhelming for me to look into so I kept procrastinating on purchasing a DSLR but this video has really helped me make a decision 📸
@HyunRalphJeong
@HyunRalphJeong 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you and glad I could help. I know exactly what you mean. It's so hard to just "pick a camera" to go out and shoot nowadays.
@MaryD321
@MaryD321 5 жыл бұрын
This is the first tutorial I have heard from you and I subscribed and can't wait to hear you speak about more topics. Your mastery of the subject is outstanding, but the way you are able to describe it makes all the difference in the world. Thank you so very much!!
@HyunRalphJeong
@HyunRalphJeong 5 жыл бұрын
Mary D Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it :)
@defusers
@defusers 5 жыл бұрын
create meaningful content just like you do right now, and you will be great. straight to the point without any useless info just to gain video time for monetization. Great job bro! subbed
@HyunRalphJeong
@HyunRalphJeong 5 жыл бұрын
defusers thank you and appreciate the comment!
@claudiaschneidernola2154
@claudiaschneidernola2154 4 жыл бұрын
I've been looking to learn about full-frame and crop sensor since I do makeup videos. This is a well-done explanation.
@johnstephenson7620
@johnstephenson7620 3 жыл бұрын
Very good explanation, it has taken me years to learn what you told in 10 minutes. Also what we call full frame or pro cameras at the time 35mm film first came out it was not considered good enough for pro work, they used 120 film or 4*5 film for in studio work. Times change I have seen a lot in the last 60 plus years sence I got my first plastic box camera that had 2 control a shutter release and a film wind knob. 👍
@Louis-te7th
@Louis-te7th 5 жыл бұрын
2:57 I don't know if you are right with the canon example. I think there are lenses which are calculated for apsc not full frame. So it might be a true 18mm lens on the apsc and would behave like a 12mm on a fullframe.
@JasonAllard
@JasonAllard 5 жыл бұрын
Great info and thanks for the comparison. My studio has 2 80Ds, but I'm looking to get the 5D MIV with 2.8 70-200 for cleaner talking head and testimonial style videos. The 80Ds are great for getting quick b-roll but looks like the jump up to a 5D would be worth it.
@HyunRalphJeong
@HyunRalphJeong 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I've owned 2 80Ds as well. A 5D mk iv and the 70-200 would be perfect for head shots. I'm waiting for the new 70-200 for the RF mount.
@EmanuelZimmermann
@EmanuelZimmermann 5 жыл бұрын
I watched a ton of videos trying to understand this properly, and this is the first one that actually makes a lot of sense to me. Thanks! subscribed.
@TheRecipeJournal
@TheRecipeJournal 5 жыл бұрын
We still learning and this was very useful for us. Thanks Ralph for very informative and well explained video.
@patricksmith2553
@patricksmith2553 5 жыл бұрын
Well than you guys should know, that one thing, at least is not true. Full-frame camera's do not gather more light or total light. Simply that is false, wrong, lies.
@kingvideo-
@kingvideo- 2 жыл бұрын
This is a VERY good explanation on the subject of full frame and crop sensors.. Thank You for a very good clear training video...
@Byhythloh
@Byhythloh 5 жыл бұрын
If you need a full frame sensor to be a professional photographer, your not a professional photographer.
@pejuangbangsa2927
@pejuangbangsa2927 5 жыл бұрын
so, why professional use fullframe??
@bartoszfilipek8698
@bartoszfilipek8698 5 жыл бұрын
@@pejuangbangsa2927 because at one point crop sensor is holding you back
@davidmskiba
@davidmskiba 5 жыл бұрын
Wow. Dumbest sentence i ever read. I switched from ff to apsc but for many many Situations professionals need fullframe /Mediumformat... By talking like this you aint professional...
@peoplez129
@peoplez129 5 жыл бұрын
Fast full frame lenses gives you characteristics that are physically impossible on crop sensors. Due to that unique look, they are set apart from crop sensors. It's all about depth of field and the quality of background blur. Even full frame lenses aren't equivalent. The bokeh quality comes from the size of the aperture, which can be disconnected from the aperture number itself. For example, one lens can be 30mm at maximum aperture, while another can be 40mm. The one with the bigger aperture will have more background blur....even if both lenses are set to the same aperture number. Obviously, the more you crop, the smaller the lens gets, the smaller the total opening of the aperture is, which means more depth of field and less background blur. So it's not really about the photographer, it's about the characteristics that are impossible on crop sensors. Of course, I wouldn't expect a fake professional or a crop sensor only user to understand this reality....because they don't know enough about photography in order to realize how tangible these differences are. But in practice, a lot of people don't use full frame to its full bokeh potential, because they're focusing from far away. Go use a full frame camera, set it to something like f/1.8, lock it to minimum focusing distance, then manually move the camera in place to focus. The background blur will be as smooth as pudding.
@Oneandonly12
@Oneandonly12 5 жыл бұрын
I agree. I dont use a full frame and my pictures turn out amazing. It's how you take the photo the Angel's etc.
@MrNickcarter194
@MrNickcarter194 11 ай бұрын
I have watched quite a few videos on camera sensors and this is probably the best explained.
@DJALEXBROWN
@DJALEXBROWN 5 жыл бұрын
SERIOUSLY AWESOME VIDEO! The math and engineering knowledge you have and shared is great.
@thecyrussales
@thecyrussales 3 жыл бұрын
3 minutes into the video and it finally makes sense. THANK YOU
@niterunner9979
@niterunner9979 5 жыл бұрын
best explanation ever. Congrats!
@MrCharles4074
@MrCharles4074 4 жыл бұрын
Super appreciate this clear and thoughtful explanation! Thank you! At my company we primarily use a Sony A7iii for video but for personal use I really can’t afford something of that caliber. I’ve been told by all my snobby friends to never touch a crop camera as their abominations, but all my research tells me that for personal use it’s actually totally fine and cost effective.
@KimchiAndBeansVideos
@KimchiAndBeansVideos 5 жыл бұрын
Really appreciate when you said "Let's look at what this means in real life" Haha Nice comparisons. This felt like a photography class. Good to know that you can make adjustments to the crop sensor camera to get a similar effect. And yes, that is a GREAT thumbnail for your next comparison. Haha
@covinhas87
@covinhas87 3 жыл бұрын
You're answering some of my questions on your videos on a really nice way with awesome examples that made easy to understand. Another subscriber. Keep the good work. :)
@joshuathinkingoutloud
@joshuathinkingoutloud 5 жыл бұрын
It's cool running into another KZbinr with a deep voice. It's rare.
@TimothyGordon
@TimothyGordon 5 жыл бұрын
FINALLY, a clear and well demonstrated example of sensor size impact on light collection, noise, and bokeh. Well done sir! 👍🏼
@HyunRalphJeong
@HyunRalphJeong 5 жыл бұрын
Timothy Gordon Thank you and glad you enjoyed it!
@AlliandWill
@AlliandWill 5 жыл бұрын
Very informative video! Really well thought out and presented as well!
@HyunRalphJeong
@HyunRalphJeong 5 жыл бұрын
Alli and Will thank you!
@MyOlympusOMD
@MyOlympusOMD Жыл бұрын
Hi Hyun, I watched your video and found it very interesting. My concern is one critical point everyone explains incorrectly. There are 2 key points when discussing image sensors. These are the Optical characteristics and the Technical characteristics of every image sensor. You did a great job explaining the Optical differences and failed, like everyone else, on the Technical aspects of the image sensor. An image sensor is an electronic component with technical limitations. The size of the sensor does not change these technical limitations. For example, the sensor has an active noise component (floor) the moment the camera is switched on. Dishonest marketers decided not to tell the truth because selling more FF cameras is more important. We have the opportunity to manage the sensor's saturation and SNR. How does one do that? The daily repeated marketing phrase claiming "One sensor captures more light" is dishonest. The challenge we ALL face is how to best deal with the different reflected light intensities from the scene. All image sensors undersaturate in the shadow parts of the scene. That means a lower SNR and more visible image noise in the shadows. Your ISO simply amplifies the lower SNR in the shadow parts of the image signal. Why do all image sensors produce excellent image quality in bright light, and NOT only M43 sensors? Because the sensor saturates in good light. That means a high SNR, low visible noise, and more tonal data. Why? (think gamma & tonal data distribution) Go to my Blog for more information on what digital photographers should know... Best Siegfried
@marvindollente7737
@marvindollente7737 5 жыл бұрын
This video is Exactly what ive been looking for, Thanks for this video man, you are awesome, you explain it very well.
@HyunRalphJeong
@HyunRalphJeong 5 жыл бұрын
Marvin Dollente Thank you and glad you enjoyed it :)
@on-the-spot9467
@on-the-spot9467 5 жыл бұрын
Mahusay
@rajajeevlogs6677
@rajajeevlogs6677 4 жыл бұрын
Best Explanation, but I have a question that if I use full frame for videography and my partner use crop sensor for photography so will it be Ohk?
@FoodMysteryLive
@FoodMysteryLive 5 жыл бұрын
Wow this is so informative! Learned so much! Love your videos, always learning something new! 👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿
@martawoodhull7779
@martawoodhull7779 3 жыл бұрын
this is the most thorough and most concise video on the internet. I am so grateful. I was trying to piece together so many bits if information from every source imaginable from sales stats to bloggers and vloggers and articles. I input that info in my computer brain and came out in the same place but I really wasnt sure if I amagamated it correctly. Thank you for this verification: your explanations of use application were excellent, ie type of photography and use of BG blur, and also your breakdown the difference in the apparent image when doing crop sensor math. In short, I had come to the conclusion after watching so many things that what I need/like for my purposes was a full frame 50 mm, and a wide angle 24 or something- this showed me exactly why it will be the right choice for me ( shooting instructional music video in a long narrow bright loft.) Thanks so much.
@DarnocTechCH
@DarnocTechCH 5 жыл бұрын
I have a canon m100 which has 1.6 crop but I also use it with a viltrox speed booster 0.71x. It makes it 1.136x. Got best of both world.
@doros9.2
@doros9.2 5 жыл бұрын
How happy are you with the Viltrox? I am considering going from the 750d to the m5 just because of the speedbooster and a couple of lenses only available for mirrorless (Samyang 12mm f/2, Canon 32mm f/1.4 etc.)
@DarnocTechCH
@DarnocTechCH 5 жыл бұрын
@@doros9.2 I'm loving it. There's no con I can really think of just pros : like it increase by 1 f stop level of light ( that's why it's called a speed booster) . So, a 50mm F1.4 USM can let more light F1.0 (bokek god) . Also, I can have two range of length on all my lenses .example, 50mm x 1.1.36( w viltrox) = 55mm and 50mm x1.6 ( Regular crop with EF adapter) = 80mm. And travel made easy because mirrorless so light weight and less lens to carry in the bag. If you got the cash metabones makes a speedbooster with 0.64x which makes a crop 1.6 to a 1.024 alot closer to full frame, but 3x more expensive than the viltrox.
@andrewm8450
@andrewm8450 5 жыл бұрын
@@doros9.2 speedbooster works best with full frame lenses, those lenses you mentioned are apsc so they are not really useful with the speedbooster
@doros9.2
@doros9.2 5 жыл бұрын
​@@andrewm8450 Thanks Andrew, I am aware of that. Those lenses I mentioned are the reason I am considering Canon's mirrorless APS-C system, not the speedbooster. I would like to use the Viltrox with lenses such as the EF 50mm STM and the 85mm USM, in order to be able to get a little closer to the subject and get something similar to their 'true' angle of view.
@andrewm8450
@andrewm8450 5 жыл бұрын
@@doros9.2 oh, sorry i misunderstood you, while i don't own a speedbooster, i have the Canon M5 bought refurb from canon usa for 450+ USD, it produces brilliant picture quality, for that price i highly recommend it
@seattlegrrlie
@seattlegrrlie 4 жыл бұрын
This was an excellent summary. And why I did go with asp-c. SIZE! Honestly, background blur is a little overrated by photographers liking what they're used to
@dropyvisuals4355
@dropyvisuals4355 5 жыл бұрын
My Fuji cropped bodies has full frame dynamic range lol. and that's all i need for weddings
@HyunRalphJeong
@HyunRalphJeong 5 жыл бұрын
Yummy Tech Fujis are amazing
@JohnKrill
@JohnKrill 5 жыл бұрын
And it's NOT cropped. Check the history of that term. Blame it on Nikon. They're dummies. Only when you put a DX lens on a FX camera do you have cropped sensor. There is even a command for it in the FX cameras. Confused" Blame Nikon.
@dropyvisuals4355
@dropyvisuals4355 5 жыл бұрын
@@JohnKrill yeah i know what ur saying. I just dont have the time to explain what actually is cropped when using a smaller sensor camera. So i just say its cropped. Get it? I am just saying it because the video is about apsc(cropped) and full frame.
@videoman876
@videoman876 3 жыл бұрын
You did an excellent job explaining the difference between full frame sensors and crop frame sensors. It all make sense to me now. Awesome video. 👌
@bluelilypop21
@bluelilypop21 5 жыл бұрын
Exactly what I was looking for!
@AndrewMcleod7
@AndrewMcleod7 4 жыл бұрын
This video is perfect - You explained the pros and cons PERFECTLY!
@TBGmario
@TBGmario 4 жыл бұрын
prime lens on a crop sensor camera = take a couple steps back for me ha
@medusasaurus1447
@medusasaurus1447 4 жыл бұрын
Pretty much 😂
@edwingoh4094
@edwingoh4094 4 жыл бұрын
best explanation not just about sensors but also focal length on lenses as well.
@mrone-rj1bn
@mrone-rj1bn 5 жыл бұрын
i'm quite happy with my sony a6300 both in lowlight and in daylight, my pockets are even happier)
@HyunRalphJeong
@HyunRalphJeong 5 жыл бұрын
mr. one I used to have an a6000 as well. Great camera!
@mrone-rj1bn
@mrone-rj1bn 5 жыл бұрын
@@HyunRalphJeong, i had it too, this one is even better, not as good as full frame but not far behind.
@LookintomyBarrel
@LookintomyBarrel 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, explained really well, Which would you buy for astrophotography? Many Thanks...
@Nacnud92
@Nacnud92 5 жыл бұрын
Nobody is a professional photographer. You should always be learning.
@samuelodan2376
@samuelodan2376 5 жыл бұрын
Ha ha. Being a professional photographer doesn't mean you've learnt all there is. It just means photography is your work or job.
@yadvendraCE
@yadvendraCE 5 жыл бұрын
Last time i checked, definition of professionalism was slightly different!
@samuelodan2376
@samuelodan2376 5 жыл бұрын
@@yadvendraCE You might want to check again. Just search "who is a professional photographer."
@michaelm1
@michaelm1 5 жыл бұрын
A professional is a member of a profession or any person who earns their living from a specified professional activity. An amateur is generally considered a person who pursues a particular activity or field of study independently from their source of income. (Wikipedia) However, I completely agree with 'You should always be learning.'
@RockLobster223
@RockLobster223 3 жыл бұрын
This is the best explanation of this subject I have ever heard. Brilliant stuff. You have a knack of addressing the questions that pop into my head about 2 seconds before you start giving the answer!! Thanks
@nathan6460
@nathan6460 5 жыл бұрын
I kinda regret a little bit cause I jsut purched A6400 :
@jasonw9251
@jasonw9251 4 жыл бұрын
Best video explaining this complicated topic I've seen so far!
@DONNYLAI95
@DONNYLAI95 3 жыл бұрын
Very nicely explained... This video is by far the best explaination on FF vs APSC ever on KZbin...
@abdulwahabhassan5651
@abdulwahabhassan5651 4 жыл бұрын
Man, you are one of the best when it comes to providing honest reviews and explaining stuff related to cameras and photography. I love your channel.
@tombriere6807
@tombriere6807 3 жыл бұрын
This is the clearest explanation of full frame vs crop. Excellent! Thank you !!!
@markdbey
@markdbey 5 жыл бұрын
Very well explained... Most people make it seem as though a 50mm just magically turn into an 80 with the crop factor... And that is simply impossible! All the effects of a 50mm will still be present, albeit with and 80mm field of view... That's all... It's just closer to the subject. Great one man!
@HyunRalphJeong
@HyunRalphJeong 5 жыл бұрын
Couldnt have said it better myself!
@balajikannan7393
@balajikannan7393 7 ай бұрын
Whoa. A clear explanation. I'm glad I watched this video before splurging on a full frame camera.
@SuperALBSURE
@SuperALBSURE 5 жыл бұрын
probably the best explanation of this topic I have seen. nice stuff
@HyunRalphJeong
@HyunRalphJeong 5 жыл бұрын
SuperALBSURE Glad you enjoyed it :)
@kj-marslander
@kj-marslander 2 жыл бұрын
I already knew all this info, but I watched the entire vid anyway because you're really good at explaining photography topics.
@PatrickEllisTx
@PatrickEllisTx 3 жыл бұрын
2:55 The 18-55 mm EFS is actually 18-55mm. the 1.6 crop factor only applies when you put a full frame EF (full frame) lens on a crop sensor camera.
@HyunRalphJeong
@HyunRalphJeong 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, take a look at this video. kzbin.info/www/bejne/i17FZ2yoq7Bog6c
@jeffrandall4046
@jeffrandall4046 4 жыл бұрын
Brief, concise, direct and easy to watch. Very nice, well done!
@Bank-E
@Bank-E 2 жыл бұрын
Subscribed 👌 could not find anyone else to explain this any better 👌 I personally own a canon rebel t6 love this camera even with the crop sensor but I always wondered what I was missing, you explained it better then anyone I’ve found on KZbin I am striving to get a full frame eventually but it’s nice to know that crop sensor cameras are not “garbage” as so many people like to say ! Although I find it funny a lot of people mistake my photos for being taken on a full frame 😜 when in reality I have a rebel t6 🤣 will never get rid of this camera tho, it has done me a lot of good 🙂 and I will continue to use it when not using a full frame probably for just general shooting or macro photography 👌
@RameshKumar-ng3nf
@RameshKumar-ng3nf 4 жыл бұрын
Straight away subscribed your channel . What a awesome explanation is this 👌👌❤️❤️❤️. Simply mind blowing. You are the only one in youtube who cleared these concepts of crop factor etc in detail for everyone to understand displaying in the screen its calculations. Rest everyone only talks about these calculations in their talking. I never understood this until i watched your video. Thanks millions for this video helping everyone understnad the concepts and differences.
@Ranblv
@Ranblv 5 жыл бұрын
bg blur is just one thing. better weather sealing, higher quality accessories, most times better ergonomics. I moved from 80d to 6D and the noise in early morning shots dropped considerably, got better dynamic range.
@HyunRalphJeong
@HyunRalphJeong 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah I remember when I first switched to full frame I was blown away by the images. If you can handle the weight, it opens up a lot of possibilities.
@kentdaniel328
@kentdaniel328 4 жыл бұрын
I am about to make the move from crop sensor (Canon 7D) to full-frame (Canon 6D) Your vid is very informative. Well done. Thank you Hyun.
@HyunRalphJeong
@HyunRalphJeong 4 жыл бұрын
Glad I could help!
@madcat3c
@madcat3c 9 ай бұрын
Okay, just a quick question. So if you have a 1.5 crop camera with a 20 mm f1.4 and a full frame camera with a 30mm f?2.8 I guess? Would the picture actually look the same?
@Akazu69
@Akazu69 5 жыл бұрын
Great video. Though I'd argue that crop sensor cameras aren't nescessarily "better" for taking pictures far away. A full frame camera will get the same picture, but with even more around it. You can crop a picture taken on a full frame to make it smaller, but you can't crop a picture the other way on a crop sensor camera. I know you probably know this, but I feel like some viewers might get this wrong
@HyunRalphJeong
@HyunRalphJeong 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks, if there are same number of pixels on both cameras, you'd be losing a lot of resolution by cropping the picture from the full frame camera. I guess the more important thing is to use the correct lens haha.
@Akazu69
@Akazu69 5 жыл бұрын
@@HyunRalphJeong That's true! I didn't even think about crop sensor cameras with the same resolution as full frame :P
@samgao
@samgao 4 жыл бұрын
So to add to your explanation on full vs. crop (or 4/3 or anything smaller) a 20MP APS-C sized camera is like a 45MP Full frame camera. You can crop the full frame camera 1.5x less in post, and you'll get the same exact image as the crop factor!
@dannyangelesjr
@dannyangelesjr 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for explaining it clearly and simply but detailed enough for simple minded photo enthusiasts like me to understand. The best explanation I've watched so far
@janak365
@janak365 Жыл бұрын
Best explanation on Full framce vs Crop i've come across so far! Great video. Thanks
@NickL0VIN
@NickL0VIN 4 жыл бұрын
This has to be the best FF vs APSC video on KZbin!
@atharvasaple7021
@atharvasaple7021 5 жыл бұрын
In the end how you take the photo and manipulate its colors and quality in post by whatsoever editing software all together makes a photographer proffesional
@doodledoo2023
@doodledoo2023 4 жыл бұрын
Incredibly explained bro. The only video that I actually understood.
@jimtipton8888
@jimtipton8888 5 жыл бұрын
Great explanation. I like to shoot multiple things. After selling my APS-C and buying a full frame I ended up buying a 100-400 and started shooting more wildlife. I'm now shopping for a new ASC-C just for that lens. It just never ends (at least that's my wife's take 😂)! Thanks for the great content! Always enjoy your videos!
@HyunRalphJeong
@HyunRalphJeong 5 жыл бұрын
Jim Tipton Hahaha I started this channel so I could have more excuse to my wife lol.
@jimtipton8888
@jimtipton8888 5 жыл бұрын
@@HyunRalphJeong That is brilliant!!!
@okaro6595
@okaro6595 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, crop is better in focal length limited situations. However, the issue is not the crop factor as one can always crop in post but the pixel density. A 30 megapixel FF has about 185 pixels per mm whereas 24 mpix crop (Canon) has 270 pixels / mm.
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