Full Mission Talk Through from the Ship to RAF Gibraltar | MV-22B Osprey (MSFS)

[@maximan4363]

It certainly had it growing pains, 13 aircraft losses which cost 51 lives - each one a tragedy & I can honestly say that I am so sorry they gave their lives for this aircraft to succeed! My heart goes out to their families, God bless you all!! I was listening to Carl Forsling a retired CH-46 & V-22 pilot on the Low Level Hell podcast released on the 28/10/22, an excellent description of actually flying the Osprey! Over the years it has grown to be an aircraft to be respected and it has utterly changed the nature of amphibious assaults, COD and rotary wing aviation! I highly recommend listening to Brian & his guests - I've never heard a bad show!

[@cgaviator]

Great tip, I’ll take a look. And you’re absolutely right. Thanks for taking the time to comment

[@thatnorwegianguy1986]

There have been two Osprey crashes this year alone one in my country of Norway in March and another in June in California so the growing pains are still there it seems.

[@maximan4363]

@@thatnorwegianguy1986 I've not heard about either of those incidents and my heart goes out to the families of all those lost and injured! Looking at the USN & USMC The Ospray's failure rate isn't particularly high, in fact it's pretty much average - I'm not say that it shouldn't improve but for first operational tilt rotor aircraft it's pretty impressive!

[@cgaviator]

@@thatnorwegianguy1986 such a shame

[@thatnorwegianguy1986]

@@cgaviator Yeah worth noting however that weather conditions for the crash in Norway was horrendous. Even our regional airport that mainly has Dash-8 aircrafts landing on it had a lot of delays and cancelled flights that day.

[@Medge2sc]

Clear prop is a nice touch

[@cgaviator]

Yeah, caught me by surprise. Haven’t used FSR much

[@julianhall2008]

Got this today, more expense, take a bit of practice not unlike helicopters in DCS. Practice makes perfect. Thanks for the Video.

[@cgaviator]

Yup, sadly the dynamics are not yet accurate but it’s fun to play with.

[@johnwicks4936]

This looks like an absolute blast! I will definitely be considering this aircraft.

[@cgaviator]

It’s simple yet complicated! 😅

[@coffeeguy6673]

Like wise :-)

[@coffeeguy6673]

I got this over the weekend from Orbx with the amphibious group pack as well. Took some serious concentration and many attempts to successfully complete a full take off and landing on the same carrier as in this video. My landing took around 10 minutes, was going high, then low then back up and then backwards n forwards, nacelle and throttle control seem to be key as you transition between forward flight and hovering. Great video , thanks Chris. Ex RAF myself, not a pilot unfortunately.

[@cgaviator]

My pleasure! It’s very tricky indeed, should keep everyone busy! 😅

[@timpaterson2872]

Love the confidence building ‘you can do better than that’. Great video. Thanks Chris.

[@cgaviator]

Lol, my pleasure! 😅

[@randoaviator2656]

Definitely picking up this on release day... That tilt rotor has to be a unique flying experience... Looking forward to this with the moving land-able ships in the Hawaii scenery from Seafront. They've been a blast in the H145. Nice vid! Appreciate the operating tips so day one goes as smooth as possible.

[@cgaviator]

My pleasure! I need to try the seafront sim boats again. The Harrier kept sliding off!

[@tflashtube]

As you say in the video: this is so cool!

[@bluelights85]

Thanks for getting another video of this out today Chris - I was already sold on it but even more so now! Future video ideas…? Definitely the Mach loop, then maybe some sort of off airfield confined area landings or similar? It’s such a versatile aircraft, the possibilities are endless!

[@cgaviator]

In progress lol! 👍🏻

[@anthonybruce3482]

Wow... this is giving me the chills. LOL back in the day I worked at Boeing Helicopter in Philly as a software engineer. Worked on CIC and BFWS (Blade Fold Wing Stow). Can't wait to get this!!!!

[@cgaviator]

Wow, cool! What’s CIC?

[@anthonybruce3482]

@@cgaviator Central Integrated Checkout. It's the MV22 diagnostic system

[@cgaviator]

@@anthonybruce3482 sounds like a new supermarket gimmick! 😂

[@monostripezebras]

That looks fun, indeed!

[@hansloyalitat9774]

I hope they make one for DCS to experience the better realism and flight model, this would be cool for DCS operations.

[@cgaviator]

Agreed!

[@HEMSJim]

Nice! Living life dangerously taking off next to those F35's with their open canopies! 😆

[@cgaviator]

Their bad! 😂

[@HeliSimmer]

Very nice! Thanks for doing this video.

[@cgaviator]

My pleasure 👍🏻

[@bobbyrutz9402]

I'm really hoping something changes with rotorcraft when MS drops the next update. As much as I enjoy flying the H145, and am drooling over this Osprey, the way the lift off and move around just seems very odd. The Osprey looks gorgeous though.. loooooooove those tip lights.

[@cgaviator]

Yes, the Osprey has some interesting dynamics in hover mode. And the H145 was getting better but now seems a little lifeless. Here’s hoping!

[@Jigsaw407]

The best and most fun helicopter flight model pre-SU11 is still the FlyInside Bell 47. The H145 has just too much Airbus assistance meddling to judge the flight model properly.

[@cgaviator]

@@Jigsaw407 I liked the Bell 47 but didn’t find it ‘relaxing’ to fly. And I like models that have many layers/options. Opinion of course. The 46 was well done

[@symie8]

Now that does look cool 😎 Very nice vid Sir. Think this is definitely one for the hangar. I do like a bit of a challenge 😉 Thanks as always 🙂👍🏻

[@cgaviator]

My pleasure 👍🏻

[@jimmy8x541]

Just got out of my first flight in this thing. Absolutely amazing experience in VR, great view out of the big windows and the massive props are right outside. Looking forward to some updates though as it feels a little bit unfinished at the moment.

[@cgaviator]

Fingers crossed, this has a lot of potential. SU11 will hopefully allow much better flight dynamics

[@bwc1976]

Gorgeous, I can't wait! Wish my joystick had a few extra buttons and/or axes though.

[@cgaviator]

Yeah, I went from Extreme 3D Pro to Warthog HOTAS. Can’t go back!

[@richardhorley]

Can’t wait to get an osprey

[@davidcase1973]

OMG! Chris, you are certifiably crazy. But you sure produce some of the best content on sim aviation. A good few years ago, I spent the 4th July at St Pete’s Coast Guard Station in Florida with some good friends. I was kinda the token Brit, but as a fly guy the banter was all good fun. During the afternoon I was given two drinks with the somewhat meaningful name of, “Call me a Cab”. Jeez, this things were like drinking nuclear waste. After these two brain scrambling refreshments one of their local hopper jockeys asked Mike, the guy whose guest I was, if I would like a trip in the Osprey the were testing for possible use by the USCG. I screamed “ Nnoooooo” at the top of my voice, imagination flicking thru the scenario of me projectile vomiting all over the acres of glass inside the thing. There is no amount of money that would ever get me inside one of those things. So today, while I was watching you happily fly this brute of a machine, and calmly saying, with a chuckle, “I should probably get some gear down”, I just laughed my head off. Well Done Again. Too many memories Chris, way too many.

[@cgaviator]

😂 I’ve had a few beverages called the Witch Doctor. Top of the Rio in Vegas. Somehow I always managed to find my hotel room, but didn’t usually remember how! 😵‍💫 I haven’t had chance to sit in a tail ramp whilst flying low level. That’s on my list to do!

[@davidcase1973]

@@cgaviator rather you than me…. I am looking to buy an L39 next year - come and play with that, it will be safer. While I was looking, I found an F4 for sale in Florida, the only one on the civilian register, and only then because it was a prototype 🤣🤣🤣. If I told you I was not even tempted for a second, I am 100% sure you would believe me…..honest guv.

[@cgaviator]

@@davidcase1973 lol, good to have choices! Give me a call if you need someone to fly it for you! 😂

[@late_kamer1263]

Thanks i learned more about this vehicle in this video

[@cgaviator]

Glad to hear it!

[@FastTimesVero]

Brother we need more out of the cockpit footage so we can see it…. Looks awesome

[@cgaviator]

Maybe in my next video 😉

[@petercrowhurst]

Cool vid Chris

[@cgaviator]

Thank you kindly! 👍🏻

[@garryadams67]

Looking forword to the Mac loop Chris. If anything I am more impatient for this bird than the Harrier, never thought I would say that 😁👍

[@cgaviator]

Looks like your impatience has been cured! For PC anyway. Low level video in editing!

[@PebelWasTaken]

One of these for DCS would be a dream for basically most navy missions.

[@cgaviator]

Yup! I think the developer was showing interest in bringing it to DCS

[@belgeode]

Ooooh much better weather now. My weather outside also cleared up. 🤣

[@cgaviator]

😂

[@diggiedog548]

Blimey, you've been busy the last few days 😂👍🏻

[@cgaviator]

Ha, yeah, all these news releases keeping me occupied!

[@grahamthebaronhesketh.]

I can see my house on your approach.

[@JimJibber]

Mega Cool...

[@AmericanFightingMan]

That number on the pfd you’re referring to isn’t Ng. It’s average mast torque. And it can be over 100 if you have interim power on. Also both ECLs should be in fly before you takeoff

[@cgaviator]

Makes sense, thanks 👍🏻

[@tobyward6072]

Looks nice, would like to see it works with a x-box controller.

[@cgaviator]

Would need some careful custom axis binding

[@goochygoochoutdoors.1913]

She's tricky to fly. Great challange, i find I've got take off and level flight sorted. Landing is ok to start with, then at the end i drop out of the sky like a brick lol

[@cgaviator]

Same! 😂

[@goochygoochoutdoors.1913]

@@cgaviator haha, i really love it though, great challenge.

[@jayteeaitch]

Assuming you were in the correct position for your head and eyes - the speed and height figures were quite small and difficult to read - Does it have a Hud capability in the windscreen ? I just bought it from Orbx with the carrier and the fleet - and i hope my 87 YO reactions can cope

[@cgaviator]

It is quite small but I place the camera for the best view including outside. I could fly a bit more zoomed in. I’ve not checked or noticed a HUD

[@KarlH1980]

7:08 Most of us know the downside to the MS model is the planes fly more like they are on a rail than they do in XPlane. On the take off they was 0 banking action. The line of the dash maintained exact angle with the boat all the way up. IRL that has got to be all but impossible. Air is just too fluid. I so wish these a/c were a bigger part of our lives by now. The MSFS world looks too good. Flying this in VR is as close I'll ever get to being in one. Great video !!

[@cgaviator]

Yup, it’s all a work around but is still fun 👍🏻

[@darreno1450]

There was a side by side vid of a cessna take off and landing with practice stalls (xplane and msfs) and there was hardly any difference. None of these sims get it 100%, and I've seen Xplane videos of airliners landing with what seemed like 0 turbulence. You can pick apart both of them. It's just that MS brings a visual realism that's still unmatched for the most part.

[@KarlH1980]

@@darreno1450 I totally agree with you on the visual superiority of MSFS. Not so much with the flight dynamics. Having experience in both and in real world aviation, the fluidity of x-plane comes much closer to real world dynamics. What I find is the funniest part of XPlane is for all of its fidelity on air dynamics, once you get on the ground all bets are off.

[@PebelWasTaken]

How does the transfer to vertical flight compare to the harrier?

[@cgaviator]

A little bit trickier in my opinion but I cover some decent techniques in my videos. All about the green arc and cross checking the rate of descent indicator.

[@grahamthebaronhesketh.]

I live in Gibraltar. You should drop in for a virtual beer.

[@cgaviator]

Alright for some! 😁 If I’m back ‘in the neighbourhood’ I’ll let you know!

[@grahamthebaronhesketh.]

@@cgaviator I am trying to get X-plane 12 to work at the moment. Just downloaded orbex Southern Spain. so should have some fun there.

[@grahamthebaronhesketh.]

The RAF should have bought some of these and the A 10 too.

[@cgaviator]

A10 for sure!

[@BearAndTheOutlaw]

As someone who works on ospreys for the marine corps. There are a couple things that are incorrect in the sequence. If the studio wants my recordings of the audio the v22 makes when start up, and apu, and when the props are spinning. Are you following the natops?

[@cgaviator]

Lol, heavens no! I'm following the buttons that make it work! It would be great if you could reach out to Miltech simulations. I'm sure they'd love any and all info you can offer

[@maxvogan8183]

wonder if the new 40th anniversary aerodynamics for Helicopters will be updated in these already released Helicopters by their creators

[@cgaviator]

I believe the next update will offer developers more in terms of flight dynamics to play with.

[@Stubbies2003]

The model shown isn't the Marine MB-22 but actually the USAF operated CV-22.

[@cgaviator]

Valid… I preferred the paint job! 😂

[@jbslagoonreef]

I ❤ the V-22 Osprey and when is going to be available to fly? I can't wait. I want to fly it so badly.

[@hueyfoo]

It's supposed t be tomorrow or Nov 4th.

[@Jigsaw407]

It's available right now on Orbx Central.

[@gerrypalmer6712]

Can youadvise it will be released. Great video

[@cgaviator]

Already out, hope you got the word!

[@gerrypalmer6712]

@@cgaviator purchased and loaded in the hanger. Looks great had a quick sortie delve deeper tomorrow. Many thanks

[@danmorand3658]

Nice job covering the ins and outs of this, tips etc. Based on your vids I'm going to buy this one. Just curious if you've ever loaded the amphibious ready group and been able to see the POI markers for all of the ships when you spawned in. Asking because I bought the package and those markers only appear for me at around 12 miles distance, but half the group is consistently 30 miles away or more. Once you leave the world map the America is the only vessel that shows in Little Navmap etc.

[@cgaviator]

Thanks, it’s been a while. I’ve not used this since any updates so I can’t say for certain if and what the issue is.

[@azrzgaming]

Great video mate! Can you start on Carrier now? or you need to land there first?

[@cgaviator]

Yes! They are essentially static land-type airfields that have been modelled like a carrier. At least I think that’s how it works. But you can start on runway or parked 👍🏻

[@azrzgaming]

@@cgaviator Thx cause I have the same one but couldn't start up on runway like this!

[@cgaviator]

@@azrzgaming you have early access to this model and carrier pack?

[@azrzgaming]

@@cgaviator I have the indiafoxtecho carrier im talking about the F35B

[@cgaviator]

@@azrzgaming I’m not sure about the IFT carriers, if they haven’t updated to make the carriers ‘an airfield’ then maybe you can’t with their carriers. These carriers are Miltech Simulations

[@paulanthonygiuliani6158]

Do you need to map any control's to move the cells forward

[@cgaviator]

Think I mentioned it in the video, if not apologies. Cowl Flap 4 Inc/Dec

[@paulanthonygiuliani6158]

@@cgaviator perfect thanks

[@willievstudio]

I found out from a friend who was a marine sht that the lights on the prop tips are infrared and not visible to the naked eye. They are used to spot the Osprey at night for troops to see the location of the aircraft at night when wearing night vision goggles.

[@cgaviator]

Interesting factoid! Thanks for sharing. Still, the green lights look pimping! 😂

[@chrisxloves_8252]

Not true

[@clevel258]

@@chrisxloves_8252 Exactly!

[@Tatsukoa808]

Those light on the tips are for formation flying and landing zone clearance from trees. You can see them with or without NVGs.

[@willievstudio]

@@chrisxloves_8252 do they have dual functioning lights or just formation lights?

[@planelander]

I did not see it was MSFS I thought it was a real vid; f/ me we've come a long way

[@cgaviator]

Lol, it’s funny I get more and more comments like that! It’s getting really quite good! C130 would be awesome!

[@nicholasmains5443]

Whens she come out!

[@cgaviator]

She’s out for PC. Out in Xbox once MS testing complete

[@helicopterovirtual-msfs6254]

👏👏👏👏

[@skywalker3231]

Hey man, when I go into control options to set a button for the Rotor position I can’t find the setting, where do I need to make a keybind for it?

[@cgaviator]

Check the manual, it’ll tell you which key I ding to use. I don’t think there’ll be one specifically for rotor position

[@UsualSuspect331]

Great video, I hope this plane comes to msfs on xbox as its May favorite plane

[@cgaviator]

Don’t see why it shouldn’t 👍🏻

[@UsualSuspect331]

@cgaviator thankyou for the reply much appreciated

[@miltechsimulations]

Coming to Xbox in a few weeks, if everything works fine.

[@UsualSuspect331]

@Miltech Simulations awesome I can't wait for it

[@stephenbrooker1166]

@@miltechsimulations will you release it to just flight?

[@robshirewood5060]

What happens if one engine fails or you get a problem getting full engine power on one side, or even both will it auto-rotate to land like a helicopter?

[@cgaviator]

Very good question. From my very basic understanding, the props are linked via a gearbox and can run using either engine (caution, I may be wrong!). I’m not sure autorotation would be as easy with such short fat blades but that I defer to anyone else who knows.

[@NorthForkFisherman]

@@cgaviator Former Chinook guy here. This has got to have a combining transmission in the wing root and I would imagine that would be a moment when you would go to emergency power on the remaining engine to get it safely on the ground.

[@cutlass6332]

Can we position the carriers anywhere on the globe (sea) at start?

[@cgaviator]

I think there are 16 pre positioned carriers around the world. They are static I’m afraid

[@essamahmod]

how to get the carrier ???

[@cgaviator]

Buy separate or as bundle with the Osprey

[@UnseenAtom99]

The aircraft seems to always want to roll left is there anyway to keep this from happening other than fighting it

[@cgaviator]

Have you tried trim? Is this in cruise flight? Autopilot?

[@john6203]

When is this available on the marketplace?

[@cgaviator]

I wasn’t aware that it’s not. Worth checking the Miltech social media for updates.

[@capitancairlblandford5785]

when i set the naccelles to 0 the aircraft tip over the left side....upside down and nose dive

[@cgaviator]

If you allow a large rate of descent to build >1500fpm then VRS kicks in (a stall). I’m guessing that may be your issue?

[@sboddy4585]

it's too slow to ascent and descent in vtol mode even a kid can hit you with the rpg is that how it supposed to be?

[@cgaviator]

I wouldn’t be surprised, there are always limitations to engine performance. That’s why they’d have a tail or door gunner in place or another Osprey may act as overwatch.

[@linearsoup2237]

The carrier Is on Xbox?

[@cgaviator]

Not sure, plz check their social media or product page for info

[@grahamthebaronhesketh.]

OOps there is a no fly Zone there on the App to LXGB

[@cgaviator]

Naaaah… ignorance is bliss!

[@swedishbones8937]

No aerobatics?

[@cgaviator]

Not yet lol!

[@Nates707]

Where can you get the pre release

[@cgaviator]

You on Xbox? You can get pre release unless you’re a tester

[@Nates707]

@@cgaviator yes I'm on xbox and ok thank you for the info

[@cgaviator]

@@Nates707 a lot of 3rd party developers release to PC first anyway

[@jimmy8x541]

this thing is soooo fuckin cool lol

[@cgaviator]

Hell yeah! 🤘🏻

[@Nouta-j8d]

Can anyone help me please. When I take off about 2 mins into flight the engines cut out and it crashes?

[@cgaviator]

Are you using full power? There’s a limit. Check the manual. Think it’s 92% continuous or something like that

[@admiralversio]

Anyone know if these will be on Xbox

[@cgaviator]

Yes, eventually

[@billramsey2564]

Bit of a diplomatic incident?

[@cgaviator]

Nah, it’s all good, American airframe, British crew! 😂

[@dennisnielsen6638]

Hey everyone i seem to have a problem, i play this on medium and set the flying reality on easy in the CDU. Im using a TCA sidestick airbus edition, to fly with and when i try to set the vtol to airplane mode, my Osprey starts doing backflips.. i know i need a certain speed, but even if im trying to do things like in this video, it still does the backflip anyone know wtf im doing wrong? xD

[@cgaviator]

Are you adhering to the green arc limits as you transition? Can you takeoff from stationary without it flipping?

[@madriditunes7021]

0:42 Not like Carenado PC12 for Xbox that is broken.

[@cgaviator]

Not sure I follow?

[@lastfirst5863]

Why is the osprey both bigger and smaller than I expected? 😂

[@cgaviator]

😂

[@NorthForkFisherman]

Built by the same people who make a TARDIS?

[@pe1pq]

cgavitor, Sorry I realized too, late this was not the proper form for what I typed. Oops, won't happen again. Cheers.

[@tykeener]

The Us Air Force doesn’t have any mv-22’s. Why does it say it on the aircraft. The Air Force has CV-22s but not these

[@cgaviator]

Poetic license! 😅

[@freddoalsace8588]

You still have a problem with the flight model...As on the old version...

[@cgaviator]

What do you mean?

[@freddoalsace8588]

@@cgaviator it seems slow... Whereas in real life the MV22 is very lively, even when hovering. on the old version, with the engines at 90 degrees (by modifying the aircraft file in addition) it was difficult to move forward and it had to be tilted excessively...I have the impression that nothing has changed... too bad for a plane that does not exist in simulation. virtual pilots are looking for a flight model, especially when they were flying on these planes. I will see when it will be installed on my FS....to know if it is really worth 35$...Take FlyFreeStd it is not beautiful, it flies badly, and they dare to sell their planes 20€...As said , have.

[@tyrellmaness4951]

Let me guess, PC ONLY!!!!!

[@SakariasLonghorn]

"for now" :p but the next sim update might change that after SU11

[@cgaviator]

I believe it’s with MS for testing. Subject to SU11 nit breaking things!

[@RussianPinoy]

You talk fast and chipper but fail to show how you turn propellers horizontal and then back to vertical, overall awesome video, I guess I have to solve the mystery of how to manage those props somewhere else

[@cgaviator]

If this didn’t cover it enough for you, the manual should fill in the blanks?

[@cmm3338]

I feel this simulator is not ready for this, or any VTOL aircraft for that matter. It is so terribly wrong physics wise, it throws it completely for me. And literally all they need to do, is increase drag, decrease lift, and apply some effect that makes that transition much more difficult than it appears here (on the hand), per say. also the transition is slower than this, and bounces wings a bit. In essence, this aircraft is not easy to fly, don't make it so. If (Aircraft of this nature) does this do this else do this. Yes I know it is not that simple in practice, but I also feel it sometimes can be that simple.... let people make a decision with their game. We trust you to implement the ideas, that's why we pay for it.

[@miltechsimulations]

This aircraft is by no means easy to fly in the simulator. That being said, physics have been all custom modeled, and will be extensively improved as time progresses and MSFS starts supporting VTOL (helicopter) flight. New helicopter physics are set to be released with SU11, which will bring native support for fully vertical ops, and will help with improving the physics. We are working with Osprey pilots to get the aircraft handling as close to reality as possible, but that process will take time.

[@cmm3338]

@@miltechsimulations That's an awesome answer, and I appreciate it. Will buy.

[@cgaviator]

I would say this shouldn’t be too difficult to fly, unlike a Harrier for instance. I believe the computers do a lot of the work, no? Not that I’d take away from the skill of the pilot of course.

[@cmm3338]

@@cgaviator the computers do, It’s either a dream or a nightmare. Again though, this was not meant to be an aggressive assault on the developer, just my two cents as someone who has actually flown one. I also correlate a lot of these issues to the program itself, not the developer of a 3rd party add on. They don’t control physics on a platform. Definitely easier to fly than a harrier, but notably an aircraft that is unstable in situations. As the gentlemen above mentioned, their is a new release coming out I was unaware of, updating such issues. Thus, I will buy, and conduct testing for myself. Appreciate you, you are an accurate, and intelligent aviator.

[@cgaviator]

@@cmm3338 you’ve flown one!? Awesome! And the sim is certainly still young. Fingers crossed for the future!

[@jaksongpg]

can you stop saying 'cool' all the time?

[@cgaviator]

I’ll try but no promises! 😉

[@jaksongpg]

@@cgaviator Cheers mate - I'd want you to do the same for me (ways to improve your presentations I mean). Otherwise excellent stuff.