and I thought that taking a Toyota Tundra here would be impossible. The driver of this power wagon truly is truly one of the best. Also has one of the highest confidence levels of anyone I even know. And I thought that I was a very confident person when it comes to many things. Props to that guy.
@outlaw9232 Жыл бұрын
Hey thanks I appreciate it. I’ll let him know. He did say he will not take that power wagon down black bear again. Just a little too wide for that long stretch of switch back after the steps. Really hard in that thing to do that without a spotter in the passenger seat. Thanks for watching. I appreciate it greatly.!
@FullsendAdventure Жыл бұрын
@@outlaw9232 yeah, I'm a beginner. Recently I wa had to pass a 4runner on a shelf road only maybe a couple feet wider than black bear... I had to climb up on a wall and that guy was almost on the cliff. My gut told me that there was no way i was making it. But internally, I said "f*** you" to my gut, and with less than half a foot of space, i made it. Then a couple minutes later a jeep on an even narrower section. His tires were halfway on the cliff. At closest, we were 2 inches from hitting. It was also bad on the roof since i was on the wall at a really steep angle, so the rooves were almost touching. but both of us managed to move through that section. Any sane person in those two situations would know that they would not have made it, but I just threw my instincts out the window. What sucks most is that i didn't get any footage.
@outlaw9232 Жыл бұрын
@@FullsendAdventure oh man, I love that story! You know you will run into situations like that on the trail sometimes so you just take your time and inch your way through it, it’s not a race. The more you wheel the more confident you’re going to get with your skills and your rig. Big plus is wheeling with people with more experience than you. They can help you and spot you and get you through these places. I really enjoy wheeling with people that don’t have a lot of experience. It’s fun for me to be able to help somebody on the trail.
@FullsendAdventure Жыл бұрын
@@outlaw9232 yeah... my dad has a ton of experience and he tought me some but I always like doing things "my own way"... lol. But back then, my dad was with me, but I had absolutely no spotter. At least the guy in the 4runner that i met had his golden retriever spot for him... 😅😅
@outlaw9232 Жыл бұрын
@@FullsendAdventure LOL golden retriever spotting for the driver now that’s funny. Maybe it should’ve been a donation? 🤣
@dannymagana5328 Жыл бұрын
As a Powerwagon owner I would never... I am unworthy. Great job guys.
@outlaw9232 Жыл бұрын
Hey thanks for watching! He will not run it again in that truck but had fun doing it. It was a tight fit. I was just down in Ouray last weekend and Black Bear Pass still wasn't open yet.
@gchesterton3 жыл бұрын
Next up: Winnebago pulling an Airstream down that thing.
@outlaw92323 жыл бұрын
Hahaha Now that’s pretty funny!
@brokespoke47892 жыл бұрын
Forget the Winnebago, go full on Provost!
@erickvallad41892 жыл бұрын
🤣
@CO84trucker Жыл бұрын
Robin Williams pulled off something similar in the movie "RV"!
@Glenn.Cooper Жыл бұрын
I've watched a bunch of videos of Black Bear Pass, and this is the first one that really shows the steepness and roughness of the key parts of the trail - thanks!
@outlaw9232 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Glenn! Video never does the Trail justice. I had to edit this video down so it wasn’t too long because it took us a lot longer to get around that second switch back in my buddies Ram. I love this trail. I love the views, and I love ending in Telluride at brown dog pizza and then take Imogene pass back over to Ouray. Thanks for watching Glenn I really appreciate your comment. I’m working on my next video of the last trail. We did in Arizona. I hope you’re able to watch it.
@MTBryanH3 жыл бұрын
Having been on Black Bear several times on a motorcycle, I wouldn't take my Power Wagon on those switchbacks. Haha! Kudos!
@outlaw92323 жыл бұрын
It is a tight squeeze in some spots.
@edwardcote13313 жыл бұрын
"no concerns,it'll fit" i love it.only a p/w owner is this confident wheeling an hd truck .i have the same pw,same colour ,'21 level 2 with all the options.love the cameras, especially the front one.it helps me a lot, i wheel solo.no guts,no glory.
@outlaw92323 жыл бұрын
That is awesome! Thank you so much for watching and the comment. I will let my buddy Ash and his power wagon know they have a fan!
@stevens52733 жыл бұрын
Awesome video full size Ram "Onwards" cool
@outlaw92323 жыл бұрын
Hey thanks for watching! He had full confidence he could get that full sized Ram down Black Bear. It was a challenge but I believed in his skills and abilities. Thanks again for watching!
@anonymous..- Жыл бұрын
Legend says this guy also drove an 18 wheeler through the Tail of the Dragon.
@outlaw9232 Жыл бұрын
OK that’s pretty funny! I have ridden tail of the dragon several times on my motorcycle and I can’t imagine somebody trying to go through there
@Colorado4x44 жыл бұрын
Great video John!!! Loved it. I’m glad Ash took his full size on Black Bear and I’m even happier that you made a video of it for everyone to see that a full size pickup can do this trail with some good driving 👍🏻
@outlaw92324 жыл бұрын
Colorado4x4 Thanks Geoff! Ash did very very well with that big truck on the trail. A little tight on the second switch back but we made it. We then ran Imogene pass after that. That was fun.
@bquade703 жыл бұрын
No thx! Hate shelf roads... Lol Great work all. Just subbed, Lake Havasu 🌞 Az Ram 1500
@outlaw92323 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the sub and watching!! This is one of the narrowest shelf roads I’ve been on. It’s tight for my Jeep but my buddy wanted to run it in his Power Wagon! Crazy!
@jimkidd534 жыл бұрын
I've seen numerous videos on Black Bear but this one was was interesting with that truck along with you. I really enjoy that you don't add music,; just the natural sounds along the trail. Great job.
@outlaw92324 жыл бұрын
Jim Kidd Thanks Jim! I agree about not adding music. I have in the past but I’d rather listen to the Jeep and the trail. Thanks for watching!!
@bryanlewis88912 жыл бұрын
I love my new Power Wagon and can't wait to get it out on some Power Wagon appropriate trails.
@outlaw92322 жыл бұрын
Hey Bryan thanks for watching! I wouldn’t recommend a power wagon again on blackbear pass. It was a little more sketchy than it looked in the video. My friend was really insistent on doing it so I wanted to be there to help spot for him. He does know how to drive that truck And impressed me.
@sunilshrestha657 Жыл бұрын
great job, I won't even dare to hike down that mountain. Amazing and how much willpower does it take to bring a full size pick up truck to that pass.
@outlaw9232 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! Yea it was a bit of a job to get my buddies truck down those switchbacks but he was determined to do it. He said he won't do it again but still had fun. I just came back from Ouray a couple weeks ago and working on the next videos now!
@samswears49353 жыл бұрын
John, That's funny. We were just talking about bumpers. " I think that is far enough" Good stuff. And crazy about that dude on a bicycle. This looks tight with a jeep. Can't imagine being in that long Dodge.
@outlaw92323 жыл бұрын
It was tight on that second switchback but he did it! Seeing that pedicab on the trail was a trip. I hope he got a good tip!
@ickess3 жыл бұрын
I have an 03 Ford Expedition. Think I’ll wait until I have a smaller rig before doing black bear haha.
@outlaw92323 жыл бұрын
I think that’s a good call! Thanks for watching!
@jaydub57282 жыл бұрын
intense! great driving, I've got a full size f350, would never try that, balls of steel man!
@outlaw92322 жыл бұрын
Thanks!! It was fun watching my buddy maneuver through some of that.
@ForeignServiceCrafter3 жыл бұрын
Whenever I’m talking to Joe about moving to Colorado, I like to watch your videos and see the mountains!
@outlaw92323 жыл бұрын
It is beautiful here and it would be awesome if you all were out here. You are a world traveler and have seen many places.
@gitbrit2 жыл бұрын
I'm not even into this stuff but enjoyed this immensely. Nice work and nice filming chaps!
@outlaw92322 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much I appreciate that! Thank you for watching and I love the comments!
@Olive-oilien3 жыл бұрын
This video made me feel much more secure doing black bear pass in a short wheelbase vehicle. Nicely done. Looking forward to more content
@outlaw92323 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much RF I appreciate that a lot!
@TS-ef2gv2 жыл бұрын
True. I went over it in a two door Wrangler and had to back up a little only once on one of the switchbacks. The other hairpins were a one shot deal. I can't imagine doing the Steps and the Switchbacks in a beast like this Ram.
@drewarmstrong43252 жыл бұрын
I did this in my 2017 3500 HD Denali... Lost my air dam but I made it... Putting a new bumper on now to give a better approach angle. I also took it way up above Crystal Mill in Lead King. I was the only truck up there with rubicons and side by sides.
@drewarmstrong43252 жыл бұрын
Oh and I smashed my exhaust pipe flat on the bottom.
@outlaw92322 жыл бұрын
It’s a tight squeeze in something like that isn’t it! I’m not surprised about the air dam because there some places where you need more than stock clearance. I did Crystal Mill once in the fall to see the colors. I took some neighbors with me and ran wit no top or doors. It was awesome but we go past the mine out of the town of Marble. I have a video of that trip. I know the trail gets pretty narrow where you went. Nice job!! Thanks for watching!
@myauctionaddictionestatesa74513 жыл бұрын
I got a little too chicken and scratched my power wagons bumper. Definitely easier in a smaller rig. But it is usually what I have as I am usually working on my land when up there.
@outlaw92323 жыл бұрын
It’s much easier in a smaller rig for sure! Thanks for watching!
@jaydub57282 жыл бұрын
how about 2wd brakes in reverse and sliding the rear-end on those switch backs.
@outlaw92322 жыл бұрын
I watched a guy in a Jeep do that exact same thing on the second switch back. Cool to watch.
@jerrypolverino60254 ай бұрын
I ran my double trailer semi filled with lead pipe through there last winter in three feet of snow, sometimes six feet. Okay, so I had chains on the drive tires. We race Winnebago’s there in the winter so it’s not plugged up with Jeep traffic. After the ice melts I’m gonna take my 50’ Bertram Sport Fisherman up from Miami. 😅
@outlaw92324 ай бұрын
@@jerrypolverino6025 🤣🤣🤣
@dr.emilschaffhausen4683 Жыл бұрын
Thats it. I'm taking the minivan.
@outlaw9232 Жыл бұрын
LMAO! Now that would be a site! Thank you Dr. Emil for watching, I appreciate it!
@Quackerstacker19733 жыл бұрын
I did this trail in the early 90's in my 71 international pickup truck then a few years later in a Chevy 1/2 ton work truck 2 wheel drive with the ladders still on the ladder rack.
@outlaw92323 жыл бұрын
I would love to see how the trail was back then compared to today. I’m sure it was just as crazy.
@Quackerstacker19733 жыл бұрын
@@outlaw9232 I haven't been on that trail in about 25 year's so I don't know how it compares but coming down the waterfall and the steps in a rear wheel drive truck was interesting. Some of the switchbacks we're fun in 2 wheel drive my old international handeled it like a champ 4 low and granny I had to give it throttle in some spots.
@outlaw92323 жыл бұрын
@@Quackerstacker1973 The 2 Wheel drive part is what impressive. You got guts!!
@Quackerstacker19733 жыл бұрын
@@outlaw9232 when I was 22 year's old I was invincible I wouldn't do that now it is amazing how much courage you have when you're young.
@outlaw92323 жыл бұрын
@@Quackerstacker1973 lol you’ve got that right!!!
@broncotrail Жыл бұрын
nice!
@outlaw9232 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching and the comment Broncotrail! It was an interesting day, and that is probably the only time my buddy is going to take his big ram truck down that trail. It took some work to get around that second switch back, but he did it and we did not hold anybody up behind us. I’ve run blackbear pass about six times in my Jeep now and love it.
@Idahoshepherds834404 жыл бұрын
Great video Outlaw ! I just uploaded a walk around video of my 2009 Wrangler. Not as good of a video as yours but ill get there. Can't wait to get out and explore !
@outlaw92324 жыл бұрын
Chris Kantock Thank you Chris! I’ll have to check out your walk around video!
@paulmcknight3987 Жыл бұрын
Wow the drama LOL. In 1979 I took my 75 vw bug down Black Bear Pass!
@outlaw9232 Жыл бұрын
Yeah times and the trail have changed in the last 44 years. Thanks for watching, I do appreciate it!
@hundeschrotter12272 жыл бұрын
whoa diz guy can drive...
@outlaw92322 жыл бұрын
LOL He drives semi trucks for a living so to him this wasn’t that bad. Got me and my Jeep it still is a tight fit but very doable if you just pay attention and take your time. Thanks for watching!
@MrThenry19882 жыл бұрын
Is it an 8 foot bed crew cab? Lol. Was thinking on trying my service truck on that pass.
@outlaw92322 жыл бұрын
It is an 8 ft bed he’s got. It took us a lot longer to get around that second switch back than the video shows. I had to edit it down for time. We both ran Imogene Pass after that as well. Me and my Jeep and him and his Ram. Thanks for watching!
@JKsouthwest4 жыл бұрын
Great job on the video! This is one of so many great trails in the area, thanks for sharing!
@outlaw92324 жыл бұрын
JK southwest Thank you so much for watching! I really tried to cut the video shorter but just couldn’t with all the footage I have. I’d like to use drone footage if I could like you do on your channel.
@1776SavageАй бұрын
He’ll of a job what radios do you use to communicate with other drivers.
@outlaw9232Ай бұрын
Hey thanks for watching and the comment. It definitely was a challenge for my friend in that Ram and he made a comment to me that he probably won’t ever do that again. Radios we used that day where just two handheld walkie-talkie type things. They are good when the group is close together. Since then, most of the runs I do now with friends, we useham radios. Ham radios have a much much larger range and can even hit repeaters.
@jmbugno2 жыл бұрын
Ok that settles it. I'm taking the Cybertruck (once I get it) on Blackbear Pass!
@outlaw92322 жыл бұрын
It was a tighter fit than it looks. Thanks for watching!
@ScooterJ203 жыл бұрын
Nice video, I didn’t realize y’all were making a video. I was part of that “Large group…” lol
@outlaw92323 жыл бұрын
That is probably the best compliment I have ever received!! Thank you so much for watching and your comment. Scooter J 20wheel safe and hope to see you on the trail sometime!
@matthewhatton36374 жыл бұрын
Wish I could do this trail so bad! But due to a head injury my vertigo issues are too bad to conquer this trail 😔
@outlaw92324 жыл бұрын
Matthew Hatton Any chance you could ride along with somebody has a passenger and at least experience the trail and the views? It is stunning to be on the trail and look down into Telluride. If not there are a lot of other trails there that have incredible views.
@yotagang37053 жыл бұрын
just get on the pedicab
@slowninja143 жыл бұрын
Videos like this are what has made up my mind. I'm doing it in late spring/early summer in my '22 F250 FX4. Awesome video!
@outlaw92323 жыл бұрын
Awesome to hear and thank you so much for watching I appreciate that a lot!! You won’t be sorry it’s a beautiful fun Trail.
@crackerjack18273 жыл бұрын
id be very interested to know what the guy in the PW airs down too....iam a power wagon driver and i kind of wonder how low we can go i never go under 25
@outlaw92323 жыл бұрын
I just asked him and this is what he sent me. 35" Falken Wildpeak AT3W, 23 psi. He also said that a 35 inch tire will fit in the spare tire location but you just have to deflate it a little bit to get it up there. But it will fit. This is just in case you have a power wagon. Thanks for watching!
@dad_wagon19763 жыл бұрын
I have a PW and regularly go down as low as 15 psi on sand and 20-25 for harder packed trails.
@outlaw92323 жыл бұрын
@@dad_wagon1976 thanks for the sub Lab Wagon! That sounds like a good psi for sand and then different for harder surfaces. My friend Ash owns that red power wagon and has his own KZbin channel called motor onwards. He’s got a couple great videos on there of Trail’s and over landing he’s done.
@dad_wagon19763 жыл бұрын
@@outlaw9232 I will check out Ash’s channel! 👍🏼👍🏼
@craigdouglasmartens70372 жыл бұрын
Greetings from KwaZulu Natal, South Africa!! Fantastic channel and I'd love to do Black Bear and Imogene Pases. You should come and do Babon's Pass in Lesotho. You'll be spitting out seat leather...
@outlaw92322 жыл бұрын
Hey Craig thanks for watching!!! Wow, South Africa! I’ll see if I can find something on that trail to watch!
@markogrba12 жыл бұрын
Hummer EV crab mode!!!
@J_Calvin_Hobbes Жыл бұрын
That would be easy in my 50" side by side, except I would have panic attacks looking over the edge! I haven't found any videos showing peeps going up BBP during the Jeep Jamboree.
@outlaw9232 Жыл бұрын
No SBS’s allowed going down past the steps and switchbacks. I think one day a year they will run up from Telluride.
@KeithStarr3 жыл бұрын
I did Black Bear in my Tacoma years ago. No problems. I now have a Power Wagon and it’s great to see it’ll make that switchback. Thanks!
@outlaw92323 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! It took some time and thank goodness for rock rails. It’s tight in my 4door Wrangler!
@JeepingMo3 жыл бұрын
Good video. We are going to be out there more in 2022.
@outlaw92323 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jeeping Mo! It’s a great trail where 95% is pretty easy but requires focus on the Steps and the switch backs. The views are amazing.
@outlaw92323 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the sub!!!
@JeepingMo3 жыл бұрын
@@outlaw9232 hopefully we will see you on the trail sometime.
@outlaw92323 жыл бұрын
@@JeepingMo That would be awesome!
@fredferd9657 ай бұрын
That's just asking for it. What will you think if someone else attempts this pass in a "Full Size Dodge Ram" and goes over the side? There is a difference between "can be done," and "should be done."
@frankgrant4784 Жыл бұрын
Just curious why do the Jeep's front smaller headlights keep turn on and shutting off? Is it a short in the electrical system?
@outlaw9232 Жыл бұрын
That is a great question I’ve gotten before. The smaller fog lights (and the headlights) are LED. In reality they are not “blinking” it only looks like they are because of the shutter speed of the camera. When I first saw it watching back one of my videos during a water crossing I got really confused and concerned. Have you ever watched a video of a plane with propellers and it sometimes looks like the propellers are not moving at all? Well, kind of the same thing. I run the trails with the fog lights on for safety because it makes me more visible in dusty trail conditions but I’m considering turning them off while filming for this very reason. It does get a bit annoying to watch I agree. I really do appreciate your feedback and comment. Thanks for watching! I hope this explanation made a little bit of sense.
@1dumpedviper3 жыл бұрын
This guy needs a truck as big as a Power Wagon to carry his balls around!!! Sitting on the couch watching this gave my taint anxiety, extremely impressive!
@Colorado4x42 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@msg63bretired822 жыл бұрын
Years ago (mid 80s?) saw article where a guy took an f150. Backed down every other switchback. Probably pissed a lot of people behind him off.
@outlaw92322 жыл бұрын
Oh wow! I have never seen that! Very interesting and I’d love to see that. Gutsy move.
@PNW_Rodeo2 жыл бұрын
Great job fitting that big pig of a truck 👍
@outlaw92322 жыл бұрын
Thank you. It was tighter than the video shows in spots but my buddy did a great job. We ran Imogene Pass back to Ouray after that too.
@lg70142 жыл бұрын
Did it take a week to "run" the trail? Kudos to everyone behind...they are the ones who didn't get home for dinner.
@3O3Productions3 жыл бұрын
It can be done!! Been wanting to do this with my trx, the truck is just so damn wide. I'm sure this has been done by raptors as well. Anyone know someone with a raptor or trx that has done black bear?
@outlaw92323 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching. Just know that the “Steps “ and the shelf road through the switch backs are very narrow and it’s highly recommend that the driver is very experienced! There is very little room for error in a rig that big on this trail.
@freedomfire1776 Жыл бұрын
I did it in my 2019 Raptor. I too have a TRX and contemplating on doing it again. The TRX is slightly wider than a 2nd gen Raptor.
@DavidHuber1 Жыл бұрын
Tfl has a video doing the trail, and there was a Raptor in front of them that made it.
@Robbie246782 жыл бұрын
This is pretty awesome. I've done black bear a couple times in an xterra, but that's a great deal shorter than a full size truck. I have a ram rebel 1500 now, this video gives me a lot more confidence in tackling black bear.. provided I bring a spotter for the tighter stuff. Great video!
@outlaw92322 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching Robbie! There are some spots where it literally comes down to inches so if you run it with a big rig like that please please be very careful but I’m sure you will and you already know the trail.
@hswing112 жыл бұрын
LIKE WATCHING PAINT DRY
@msm624 Жыл бұрын
What is the largest vehicle to make it ?
@outlaw9232 Жыл бұрын
My buddies Ram in this video is the largest I’ve ever seen but I don’t recommend it. I’ve got a 4 door Wrangler and it is tight enough for me. Thank for watching!
@msm624 Жыл бұрын
I think that "road " would be best on a mtb....lol.
@roycemontgomery9782 жыл бұрын
what are the flashers on for
@outlaw92322 жыл бұрын
I’ll go back and watch it again but I have a feeling it’s because the lights are LED and it’s sometimes matching the frame speed of the camera. Are you talking about the jeep or the truck? If it’s the jeep that’s mine and the fog lights when being filmed appear to flash but in reality they don’t.
@cherylsmith48262 жыл бұрын
Bravo fellas
@outlaw92322 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching Cheryl!
@richardcaudillo11083 жыл бұрын
22.00 would have been a good opportunity to use his rock slider to pivot around the rock....rooky
@outlaw92323 жыл бұрын
Hey Richard thanks for watching! What you really didn’t see is that he actually did do that at one point. I had to edit the video down so much that part actually got cut out. It took us longer to get around that switch back than what the video shows.
@PK-vd3vo3 жыл бұрын
It may be unlikely, (hard to tell with the camera, perspective, etc.),. but on the first "back up and cut") to not go as far back as he did. Counter-intuitive I know, but if you look, that was the reason why there was so much real-estate lost on proceeding forward and interfering with the rock/ledge on his passenger rear . In other words, perhaps just a smaller multi-point turn may have been better. Simply may not be possible in the real world though. Well done, sir!
@outlaw92323 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching in the comment! That switch back is so tight he will need to take it as wide as you possibly can. I think I see what you’re getting at by making smaller cuts but if you have never seen it in person it’s pretty amazing and narrow. I have to watch out for that rock in the corner even cutting my four-door Jeep around because it’s so tight.
@PK-vd3vo3 жыл бұрын
@@outlaw9232 Yeah, I suspected that might be the case. The darn cameras just never do that type of thing justice. Nonetheless, great job on getting that bull turned around in a China-shop.
@outlaw92323 жыл бұрын
@@PK-vd3vo Hey thanks I appreciate that! You do have me thinking more more about making that turn with a big rig like that. You are correct though the video does not do the narrowness or steepness justice. It’s like trying to do a three point turn within a space about as wide as 1 1/2 parking spaces going steep downhill.
@PK-vd3vo3 жыл бұрын
@@outlaw9232 Yeah, the only reason why I mentioned it was that with that long wheel base it was so noticeable how much real-estate was consumed maxing the forward move and turn after maxing the initial backup. It moved the effective pivot point in so dramatically, where a comitted smaller rachet would keep it further out. It might be kinda fun to experiment with a few cones in a parking lot. Anyway, don't mind me, I certainly wasn't there, and would likely do far worse if I were in the same situation. Glad it all ended well.
@jorgeR1017953 жыл бұрын
Will a 05 jeep grand Cherokee laredo stock height make throughout black bear?
@outlaw92323 жыл бұрын
I guess it would depend on the drivers experience and guts. Personally I would not. The majority of the trail is easy but once you hit the one way section before the "steps" and switchbacks I would highly recommend good ground clearance, ability to disconnect sway bars for good atriculation and a low geared transferase. There is a section before the steps that has become very tippy and off camber. There have been several roll overs there if it's not done just right.
@lesstraveled47404 жыл бұрын
Definitely on my list to do!
@outlaw92324 жыл бұрын
It’s definitely worth it! Thanks for watching and the sub!
@lesstraveled47404 жыл бұрын
Outlaw 923 you’re welcome can’t wait to see watch all the vids
@billwaterhouse58943 жыл бұрын
I'm curious Ash...what did you think of the stock brakes on that steep and technical trail?
@outlaw92323 жыл бұрын
Hey Bill thanks for watching! This is John, Outlaw 923. I will ask Ash what he thought of the brakes and get back to you. Running the trail with him everything seem to work fantastic. I’m so impressed that truck has swaybar disconnect and lockers.
@billwaterhouse58943 жыл бұрын
@@outlaw9232 yes sir and thank you. I ask as I recently bought the same truck (2021). Some have reported (Justin from CO, 2020 model), that the brakes are so poor they struggle holding the vehicle back while on trails in low range. Would love another perspective on that. I did watch Ash's complete series on the TAT which was fantastic. Thank you John, much appreciated
@billwaterhouse58943 жыл бұрын
PS my wife and I are heading across the country next year with our off road trailer (when it gets here), planning portions of the TAT, many trails in CO and UT. I may consider brake upgrade.
@outlaw92323 жыл бұрын
@@billwaterhouse5894 ash will be thrilled to know you’re going to run TAT!! I’ve sent him a text asking him your question and I’m just waiting on a reply. He’s a long-haul trucker so he’ll text back when he has a chance. I know he will appreciate you watching his videos too. He doesn’t like the first couple videos but they got better as it went on.
@outlaw92323 жыл бұрын
Hey Bill I just talked to my friend Ash. He said the brakes are not the greatest but he really didn’t use that much being in four Lo and his truck has the hill dissent control. If you’re doing a long trip and towing a trailer it would probably be a good idea to upgrade the brakes.
@rjm71682 жыл бұрын
So then my 2004 Subutban 2500 with 6 inch lift, 35 inch k02's and front and rear lockers with 4.56 gears should also easily make it since both thd wheelbase and length are over 19 inches shorter.
@outlaw92322 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a nice rig! Lol the call on that is all yours. It took longer to get my buddy around the second switch back than the video shows. It was tight.
@preshersadventures64993 жыл бұрын
what stock vehicles can go over Black bear pass? can a stock 1/2 ton truck do it or does it need to be modified?
@outlaw92323 жыл бұрын
Hi William thanks for watching! I would not recommend taking a full-size pick up down Black Bear. That was my friend and he was determined to do it. I’m the one that was driving the jeep. To do black bear my recommendation would be to have a short wheelbase definitely Four Wheel Drive a little bit of a lift for clearance good off-road tires and definitely a low geared transfer case. Most important of all the driver needs to have excellent offloading skills. The hardest part is discipline keeping your eyes on the trail and not looking around at the scenery while you’re moving.
@MoneyIsSilver2 жыл бұрын
I actually think the longer wheelbase makes the steps a little easier, but the switchbacks are way harder - like the one at 15:20. Great driving!
@outlaw92322 жыл бұрын
I agree with you on that. It does make the Steps more difficult. I’ll pass your comment on to my buddy that drove the Ram. Thanks for watching!
@Dex8357 Жыл бұрын
I did it with nfab side steps and that rock caught my rear step on my Tacoma . I got hung up on that rock at the switch back. Had to get pulled off of it. Sliders would have made it much easier
@happywanderlust14023 жыл бұрын
LOL... "That's probably far enough."
@outlaw92323 жыл бұрын
You would love Black Bear Pass!
@cageordie Жыл бұрын
Makes driving a RAM 3500 up Mt Washington look like nothing. Wait, it was nothing. The east coast doesn't have much in the was of exciting mountain roads.
@outlaw9232 Жыл бұрын
Oh man, I’ve never ran Mount Washington. I’m sure the East Coast has its fun trails and challenges, but the Colorado Trails here and the views are all standing but…shhh, quiet don’t tell anybody. 😆. Thank you so much for watching and I appreciate the comment so much. It means a lot. Starting to work on the next video to share.
@mikerobbins50494 жыл бұрын
Good job Sir John on getting your buddy around that corner...
@outlaw92324 жыл бұрын
Mike Robbins Thanks Mike!! Some day you and I will run this trail!!
@redspain3492 жыл бұрын
Second switch back that’s the one that makes you punker your butt!
@GATORADDAM2 жыл бұрын
Love Black Bear pass. Done it twice, but not in a friggin land yacht! Lol. Great video.
@outlaw92322 жыл бұрын
Thanks Tom! Yea my buddy had some balls to do that. He’s got the experience and confidence to pull it off. LMAO ….. “land yacht”. So true.
@wazookazoo2 жыл бұрын
very good video, with NO idiot music!
@outlaw92322 жыл бұрын
Thank you Eric I appreciate that. Thanks for watching!
@swathdiver4892 жыл бұрын
Ok, if that Power Wagon can make that turn, so can my Yukon XL and Sierra Crew Cab. We're going!
@outlaw92322 жыл бұрын
If you do I highly recommend a spotter on the switch backs. It took us longer to get around the 2nd switch back than the video shows. I had to edit it down. Thanks for watching!
@swathdiver4892 жыл бұрын
@@outlaw9232 Yes, will definitely have a spotter!
@outlaw92322 жыл бұрын
@@swathdiver489 Having somebody on the passenger side watching the distance of your tires to the edge of the trail on the switchbacks is very helpful. My recommendation is always to run blackbear pass down to Telluride have lunch at Brown dog pizza and then take Imogene Pass back to Ouray. The main thing is when you’re driving if you want to look around and enjoy the views stop. While you’re driving pay attention to the trail. You will love this one it’s awesome!
@swathdiver4892 жыл бұрын
@@outlaw9232 Thanks! Was originally planning to start in Telluride but there is no RV Camping nearby that I could see. Ouray has plenty and good to know we can do both in a day, Imogene is also on the bucket list! Appreciate the advice!
@outlaw92322 жыл бұрын
@@swathdiver489 Ouray is the “Jeep “ town and has the best access to a lot of trails. Telluride is beautiful too but more of an “artsy” town. Just wait until you see the view from Imogene looking over at the switch backs of Black Bear that you just came down.
@electric74873 жыл бұрын
What's your intro music?
@outlaw92323 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! I edit my videos using iMovie. There is an option to create a movie trailer choosing different themes. The music is just part of the theme I used for this trailer. I hope that makes sense…
@happywanderlust14023 жыл бұрын
Your intros kick ass!
@outlaw92323 жыл бұрын
thanks! It takes more time than Most people think but it is still fun for me to put them together. I use iMovie to do that.
@darrelmurphy49303 жыл бұрын
They drive a Cat on it so it will fit, if you have tne nerves and skill.
@outlaw92323 жыл бұрын
Yes I believe they do that for snow removal right? That would be hairy in a Cat!
@darrelmurphy49303 жыл бұрын
@@outlaw9232 and making the road passable
@andreic.7418 Жыл бұрын
Imagine a suzuki jimny going through this pass. 😁
@outlaw9232 Жыл бұрын
They are pretty small and I don’t know how much articulation they have in the suspension but I’m sure a Suzuki Jimny wouldn’t have issues on the tight switchbacks. Thanks for watching!
@coloradomallcrawlers3 жыл бұрын
Great stuff John! That’s a beast to get over that trail!
@outlaw92323 жыл бұрын
Thanks Dewey. My friend Ash was bound and determined to take his ram down Black Bear. He definitely has the skills and I’m impressedimpressed and what he did with that truck. It even has swaybar disconnects. The most difficult part was that second switch back.
@coloradomallcrawlers3 жыл бұрын
@@outlaw9232 he did great!
@captseamus2 жыл бұрын
Black Bear Pass should have a length limit of 19ft... Sitting in a vehicle waiting for a limousine pickup to make a 60 second turn that takes him 7 minutes sucks!!
@outlaw9232 Жыл бұрын
I appreciate your comment and opinion for sure I really do. But for me when I run blackbear pass or most any other jeep trail to me it’s not a race it’s not about time. If I have to wait for somebody to get through an obstacle, I’ll do it. Especially on blackbear, look where you are, take a break and look around and enjoy the views again it’s not a race. I can tell you, my buddy won’t be taking his ram down blackbear pass again, but we didn’t hold anybody up on our run. We made sure of that. Thanks for watching and again I really do appreciate your comment and respect it.
@10-Man2 жыл бұрын
I think regarding the Hair pin turn..> Ash the driver of the RAM could have done better on his own, but played along with his friend Because thats what we do for a our friends!
@outlaw92322 жыл бұрын
I like your perspective on this. Just curious if you have ever run Black Bear Pass and if so what do you think about the narrowness of the switch back and the distance you have to not do body damage on the rock on the inside of the turn? The hood on his 2019 RAM is so tall it blocks the view of the cliff edge. Crazy!
@indyjones75502 жыл бұрын
I took my 1999 F250 Superduty over black bear. The step were a lot easier Than in my F150 short bed.
@outlaw92322 жыл бұрын
That is impressive! It’s an awesome view coming down the steps isn’t it? Thanks for watching!
@jfreeze26852 жыл бұрын
I like the channel, but your intro is loud AF man. Please fix that. The rest of your audio is quiet comparitively.
@outlaw92322 жыл бұрын
Jason, that’s great feedback that I need to hear! Thank you for your input. I have a couple new cameras I’m using and the audio is different for each of them and that’s what I’ve been working on, not the intro. I will try and make it all consistent from here on out! Thank you, I appreciate it.
@giovannigiorgio8962 Жыл бұрын
14:44 just a little more
@outlaw9232 Жыл бұрын
Hahaha yeah, it’s such a tight switch back you want every inch of room you can get. Thanks for watching!
@dillpickle-mk8sk Жыл бұрын
he needed the 2500 frame to carry the weight of his giant balls
@outlaw9232 Жыл бұрын
Hahaha it did take some guts. The only real uncomfortable spot he said was headed down to the second switch back after the steps. it’s a long narrow shelf road and his passenger side wheels were only a few inches from the edge. He said he won’t run it again, but he’s glad he did it at least once. Thanks for watching and I appreciate the comment a lot.!
@chrisstucky22612 жыл бұрын
Never been but it really doesn't look that scary. Looks mostly all visual. The fact there's a massive drop is what makes people talk it up
@outlaw92322 жыл бұрын
Most of the trail really is not that difficult at all just beautiful. But when you get to the steps and the first few Switchbacks believe me it will get your attention. Video does not do it justice and it definitely looks different in person. You’re right it isn’t that difficult but if you screw up you could die so you have to be careful! Thanks for watching!!
@siriosstar47893 жыл бұрын
24:00 " do you believe this " Yeah that's what the animals say when they see humans and their machines on the mountain.
@outlaw92323 жыл бұрын
It was probably one of the last things I expected to see coming up blackbear pass, a pedicab! lol Thanks for watching!!
@jeremiahjohnson99082 жыл бұрын
Hook a 20 ft. travel trailer to the hitch and color me impressed....otherwise.
@GregariousAntithesis3 жыл бұрын
That pass use to be only passable by old Willys jeeps when I was a kid. Now the road looks like a much milder version of its former self from all the traffic from Californicators and Texassans.
@outlaw92323 жыл бұрын
Wow that sounds pretty interesting. I’ve only been running it since 2016 and it still seems pretty narrow to me so I can’t imagine what it was like back then. Sometime I’d love to see some old video of it especially with an old Willys going down!
@Ben17soN4 жыл бұрын
I wish I knew about this. Totally would’ve gone
@outlaw92324 жыл бұрын
It was kind of a last minute run. We were on vacation and supposed to go to the Virgin Islands but that trip got canceled one week before. We needed to get away for a couple days. Someday I would love to make a deep run with some viewers and subscribers of the channel!!
@Ben17soN4 жыл бұрын
Outlaw 923 no problem. I’m always up for anything. I’m currently waiting on long arms for my Jeep.! Please let me know what’s next. Do you have my number?
@outlaw92324 жыл бұрын
Troy Benson Just checked my contacts. Email it to me. Outlaw173@gmail.com
@nickklly3 жыл бұрын
Can’t wait to take my Raptor through there 🤙🏼 looks good
@outlaw92323 жыл бұрын
How wide is the Raptor? The Steps and some switch backs are very narrow. I would do some research and use extreme caution.
@root125102 жыл бұрын
@@outlaw9232 they're 86.6 inches wide. Where as a jeep jku is 73.6 for comparison.
@outlaw92322 жыл бұрын
@@root12510 if your width is from fender to fender you should be fine. If that’s the width of the wheels it will be a really tight fit on the switch backs. If so I would really recommend a spotter in the passage seat to let you know how close you are to the edge of the trail.
@bruceintas2 жыл бұрын
Not man enough for a male sheep myself!
@andiamocclash397 Жыл бұрын
Yea sorry to tell you this buddy but that's not a ''full sized ram'' my long bed aint doin this shit especially not a dually 🤣
@outlaw9232 Жыл бұрын
You are absolutely correct it is not a long bed technically, it would not be considered a “full-size“ but it’s no mini truck. But I think you still have to admit it’s quite a feat getting that size of a truck down to switch backs of Black Bear pass. I do not believe a long bed crew cab dually would have a chance on this section of the trail.
@andiamocclash397 Жыл бұрын
@@outlaw9232 I never said you didn't have massive balls! 🤣 but I know my 4th gen ''Big bertha'' is not doin that shit! lmao I admit it looks fun, I actually love heights and rock crawling and you are right on the size limit of this trail!
@outlaw9232 Жыл бұрын
@@andiamocclash397 Thanks for the compliment, but the RAM is driven by my buddy and I had my jeep. He’s the one that’s got the cojones!! He’s actually down in Ouray right now and I’ll be down there on the 16th. He’s not gonna take the truck down that trail again he’ll ride with me in the Jeep.
@dafrasier12 жыл бұрын
Switch back 2. As a farm kid, it looks like you do not know how to steer. Yes it is tight but really. ?
@outlaw92322 жыл бұрын
Hey I appreciate you watching!. I’m going to take a guess and say you’ve never run this trail. Video does not do it justice at all. It’s tight, especially for my buddies Ram pick up. Imagine trying to do a U-turn on the edge of 1000 foot cliff that is about 1 1/2 parking spaces wide on a decline with loose gravel. Believe me it’ll get your attention.
@joshuaforbus5853 Жыл бұрын
The fucking intros are so dang exciting I have to stop watching for a bit. After the wars I get gitty rather easily unfortunately. Semper Fi
@outlaw9232 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Joshua! I know the volume of the intros is loud but I’m fixing that in future videos. Hey, welcome home and thanks for protecting our country. Thanks for watching!
@AZTLANSOLDIER133 жыл бұрын
Get a better mic
@outlaw92323 жыл бұрын
Yeah I know what you mean for sure. I have two cameras identical but one of them has a much better mic than the other. I know exactly what you’re talking about.