Hog Rider is OVERPOWERED in Clash Royale?

[@_CertifiedHoodClassic]

Most 4 elixir cards don’t counter hog

[@fulltiltgaming]

There are many cards 4 or LESS elixir that do. Tombstone, cannon, tornado, bomb tower, Tesla, mini peeka, hunter(don’t quote me, but I believe so), skeleton army, goblin gang, fisherman, mortar, and goblin cage all full counter the hog rider for an even or POSITIVE elixir Trade. Some even get a king tower activation out of it.

[@noahwilson8996]

@@fulltiltgaming hunter can but it’s extremely difficult, I think you have to place hunter before hog rider to do it as well

[@SamSamii2.0]

Most 9 elixir cards don't counter 3 musketeers :/

[@inbeing3464]

Yeah if you include the offensive/win con cards

[@zxzeshnik4701]

U can counter hog with 2 elixir, your take is absolute stupidity

[@clauteletuby]

i think it could use a small nerf of -100% attack and -100% health but its pretty balanced overall

[@fulltiltgaming]

Reasonable

[@noahwilson8996]

Very reasonable

[@vanduc115d8Nguyen]

Very very reasonable

[@AnemoWinds]

Very Very Very Reasonable

[@Thomas_Angelo]

Very Very Very Very Reasonable

[@Cyclo_Uchiha]

I wouldn't complain if the hog would just not get that impossible swing on tower when its on one hp, especially at lvl 14 400 damage means a lot

[@spicyaura2440]

I swear the hog should’ve been dead 10 times over but just stops taking damage at 1hp to get one hit. It always gets one fucking hit. It’s bs

[@Milk-wm3uu]

​@@spicyaura2440fr 💀💀

[@ramondewilde05]

Frl tho u spend a whole elixer bar? Nah smt somehow retargeted on a skellie so it still gets a hit😂😂😂

[@childcannibalism5080]

​@@spicyaura2440 y'all are legit just bad at this game, my tower never gets hammered.

[@spicyaura2440]

@@childcannibalism5080 ok buddy how many trophies you have? Talk to us when you’re actually fighting top players who can properly use hog. Where you can’t spam spawn buildings and megaknight like a 🐱 and every elixir tradeoff actually matters

[@GodKoalaa]

Just take away the hog riders hammer, pretty reasonable nerf I say

[@Chilly_1]

yes

[@butwhatif2489]

goblin brawer damage

[@darthpototo3048]

Ton of damage, 4 elixir, very fast movement speed, most counters require you to overcommit, hog rider is easily the value of a 5 elixir card but put into 4. Either nerf the stats and keep it at 4 or give it a slight buff to move it to 5

[@CormacLennon551]

? What about skarmy mini pekka cannon tombstone goblin gang ECT.

[@darthblanket2121]

Legends say that if u stop playing hog your father will return with the milk.

[@koltarus3561]

Ah yes when my raged elite barbs can't stop a single hog rider that makes me think "this card is balanced"

[@zleepy-ex1ml]

Just not true

[@hoopsx2695]

E barbs full counter it too without rage

[@xtxnct]

You use ebarbs rage bro stay out of it😂

[@KujoJoes]

i would nerf his first hit speed and slightly buff his damage , bro sometimes you spend your whole elixir bar and still get a hit

[@serafimbarbu7711]

Most balanced…. Until you play against 2.6 cycle and the enemy suddenly has a second hog in hand

[@griz507x]

hog rider is op in the same reason of why cycle decks with him are so good. literally for another win condition like goblin giant or giant you can disregard and use another card in ur deck, but hog rider forces you to ALWAYS have one in your deck, sometimes 2. sacrificing 2 deck slots for a hog rider weakens your overall deck and therefore literally changes everything

[@mrjuice2266]

I think when a card almost always gets to the tower unless you spend more elixir to defend or carry very specific cards to counter it makes it unbalanced

[@Aristophocles]

He talked about how balanced it was and then showed clips of how I couldn't be stopped 😅

[@Navman_]

It's not that the hog is busted. It's the cycle decks he's paired with that make him busted.

[@The_K-Dude]

Exactly

[@mohammedrahman9830]

Like ice spirit is the most used spirit. I have never seen fire or ice or electro spirit in a long time. I think the most used building is either goblin hut or cannon. Skeletons or goblins do too much for the price. The log is fine, but I think it shouldn't stun, but rather push back. For example, if I he play hog and I play mini peka it shouldn't stun or delay, but rather only push it back. Ps: if you agree 👍

[@AnimeMusicVideo.1]

@@mohammedrahman9830 it's a legendary spell for a reason, and also many people still use spirit

[@mohammedrahman9830]

@@AnimeMusicVideo.1 I do agree with the log. But ice spirit needs a nerf. It has been used for so long and that freeze and splash is insane. And I have the perfect theory to prove it. Let us say that a freeze spell is for ice spirits combined, after the nerfs freeze will last for 4.8 seconds. And it is a cycle card, so either make it not splash to give e spirit and fire spirit a use. Or make the freeze time way less.

[@mohammedrahman9830]

@@AnimeMusicVideo.1 And I agree with you with the log.

[@Notllamalord]

The problem is when they build around the hog to the point that they have an answer to every counter

[@eddie992]

Get outplayed then lol

[@AlessandroPioltelli]

No The most balanced card is the Electro spirit Never been balanced lol 😂

[@MrMelonGuy42]

maybe they forgot about it

[@iputcatintostet]

No musketeer is broken

[@muizmin]

Graveyard & Lavahound lowkey the 2 most balanced win conditions

[@trevorfrost2675]

Electro spirit has been balanced, it got its chain limit reduced a while back

[@AlessandroPioltelli]

@@trevorfrost2675 ….(don’t tell them damn it!) 😂

[@MAKA13X]

He’s guaranteed 1 hit and a positive elixir trade every time he’s played.

[@alex2005z]

Only if you suck

[@MAKA13X]

@@WindingShadows depends on the deck. Hog rider player, mega knight players, xbow players, and e barbs players are all dogsht. Make your own deck

[@snod5436]

90% of the counters get screwed by earthquake and log and the rest are negative elixir trades which only really leaves you with fisherman and tornado which can be outcycled and require good timing to avoid a hit.

[@A7MDRetr0]

Anti eq spot

[@snod5436]

@@A7MDRetr0 as long as they dont try to predict you its still gonna die

[@A7MDRetr0]

@@snod5436 There are ways to avoid eq

[@snod5436]

@@A7MDRetr0 there literally isnt. Best you can do is make sure they dont hit the tower as well.

[@AnemoWinds]

@@snod5436 That makes it a 7 elixir push which means more positive elixir trades are possible

[@fhdangerfh9676]

Hog rider is seen in almost every cycle deck: balanced Phoenix is seen in almost every cycle deck: overpowered

[@alehanedilko2147]

Hog rider is win condition. It should be more powerfull than majority of cards

[@Zjznzzzzyzjsvzzbz]

Almost? Rg deck and miner deck is laughing at you. There are no way hog are used in almost every cycle deck.

[@menacing_egg2732]

Every counter hog rider has has its counter in the hog rider deck itself, whether it’s log, fireball, eq, or sometimes even lightning

[@moosoose4661]

True but you can't run all of those at once, and there are a lot of things hog players can't do shit about such as a fisherman / tornado king activation, bomb tower (it fully counters hog and an earthquake and its too expensive to lightning), and mini pekka

[@menacing_egg2732]

@@moosoose4661 for fisherman u can ice golem in front and/or skeletons behind and it’ll do too much damage for the king tower activation to be worth, log knocks back the mini p for a hit, and bomb tower is still just eq cycle value

[@moosoose4661]

@@menacing_egg2732 ice golem is only used in 2.6 which uses fireball instead of eq which unlocks a whole plethora of buildings that can be used to defend. If you log a mini pekka they can do something back like log or zap it or snowball or even let the hog get one hit knowing that they just spent 6 elixir for damage and nothing else and counterpush. Your bomb tower argument is the only slightly reasonable one but even still it's not as simple because if you eq the b tower you are down too much to freely cycle back and if you don't the bomb tower on the field gives them extra time to cycle back because it still will be alive

[@menacing_egg2732]

@@moosoose4661 2.6 basically always out cycles buildings other than cannon which can be fireballed, and if using a log on a troop and the tower forces out their spell, it will be better for u because u get tower damage. And if you are smart enough to not hog into a big push, the counter push gets countered for just a few cheap cycle cards or it’s own counter push with musk or mighty miner or something

[@menacing_egg2732]

And if u think it’s op or not it’s still never fun to play against hog :(

[@Penguinz072]

The hog rider has more health than a balloon and each hit is a lightning strike not to mention it’s the fastest in the game. It definitely needs a nerf to it’s health or damage preferably health since it always gets that 1 hp hit.

[@aarishhi7306]

Only problem is once its overleved and counters your counter by itself

[@0nebby079]

My problem isn't really the stats but how many people use it and the lack of variety

[@katente4097]

I think the most balanced card is Ice Golem. Great tank for your troops. You can kite things. Nice death damage to kill skeletons, bats.

[@fulltiltgaming]

Ice golem is a below average card.

[@eolink]

​@@fulltiltgaming why do you think this?

[@CantFindAName000]

Its only used well in hog cycle, besides that its just a worse tank than knight

[@muizmin]

Graveyard & Lavahound lowkey the 2 most balanced win conditions

[@rexmayshark6212]

@@muizmin I honest to god agree with you. Lava hound can deal a significant amount of damage (especially with the pups) but the right counters can deal with it pretty easily. Plus, it’s a huge commitment to place a lava hound so you have to be ready for anything your opponent throws at you. As for graveyard, it has a ridiculous amount of counters, but that’s because poorly countering it can mean half or more of your tower gone. Both are very well balanced, which is why they have not seen many balance changes.

[@lizard6327]

Love how the most feared and hated character in this game is just some guy with a hammer riding a pig

[@rediocre4350]

"The hogrider is the most balanced card in the game" Also the hogrider getting in one hit literally every time:

[@UXMC2]

just place your counter right a skarmy or a mini pekka in right place counters it easily you are asking for too much

[@zeusx6479]

​@@UXMC2skarmy dies to log, mini pekka needs to be on perfect timing

[@UXMC2]

@@zeusx6479 You guys acting like hog rider is this op monster that destroys everything Its super easy to counter

[@techvast.]

you when you spend 5 elixir to defend the hog but have a full health counterpushing card 🤢🤢🤮🤮👎👎🥀🥀

[@darshanpatel5980]

@@UXMC2ya it does who are u btw hog riders son

[@ahmedfouzan2018]

Hog Rider and Wizard are the most balanced cards in CR.

[@pixelnut3d950]

He needs i sight range increase nerf and you know it dang well. He straight up ignores buildings

[@inbeing3464]

?? Just place them properly and you wouldnt have this issue

[@fulltiltgaming]

He doesn’t ignore buildings if they are in the correct spot. I would be fine if they changed the stupid animation that makes it fake like it is going for the building and the starting to hit the tower tho.

[@longnickname_]

It needs a tiny nerf, because it feels like every time I use any building one level below hog, or if they use zap it's guaranteed to get two hits. Just make it's first hit 15 percent slower and buff it's health a bit. That's a better balance, it's no OP per say, but for me since I'm a little under leveled for champion, hog always gets a hit

[@Ocacadordecasadas]

Dosent matter what you do,he will always get a hit 🗿

[@Smugly33810]

then you're bad at defending: heres a list of things that full counter hog: Skarmy Guards+Dagger Duchess Goblins+Ice Spirit Skeletons+Evo Ice Spirit These are just SOME of the counters that are positive elixir Trades not to mention that theres several more that aren't

[@Ocacadordecasadas]

@@Smugly33810 Bro,this was 1 year ago 😑

[@naimrezvani3603]

I disagree because the has so many tools to bipass his counters. The tornado can be out-cycled because all you have to do is spam 1 elixir cards to quite slow troops and have a building in order to defend the entire enemy push and the same thing goes for the inferno tower and all the other buildings that counter him. You are basically forced to take negative trades to defend incoming hogs as the opponent keeps cycling and trying again and again until their elixir advantage allows them to get a hit in. This way they can consistently get guaranteed damage on the tower while being able to keep up constant pressure and also having incredibly solid defenses in the form of buildings, skeletons, ice spirit and a ranged dps unit wit a tank. I don't think the hog is overpowered on its own but when you put in cycle he becomes annoying as fuck due to a lack of counter play. Basically if you can't cycle fast enough or don't have many counters in your deck you are most likely gonna lose which is pretty stupid. As a graveyard player I don't have this problem with hog but I still find it unfair for others.

[@Hanesboi]

I think it also goes to show it's super balanced because its HP is some of the most meticulously crafted stats in CR. It either gets one hit, or barely doesn’t with most interactions.

[@greedo194]

Or it gets deployed at the start of the game, all the counters are not avaiable and it gets multiple hits despite the opponent spending 7 elixir but when does that ever happen

[@SomeCowguy]

​@@greedo194 it happens when ur playing against hog, all the time, every time, every match

[@leonardobotello2843]

He doesnt die to rocket and you say hes health is right?

[@Syph-x1l]

Today I learned ONE SINGLE THING: even if you have 50 cards on the ground, the hog rider will always get that LAST HIT. Jokes aside that black man needs a speed nerf

[@777valikaze]

reread that sentence bro

[@christopherenegane5812]

The thing is, the card forces you to have a building or a tornado, that's why canon and tornado are so good

[@epicporkapis0959]

hog rider is the most balanced card in clash royale But cannon cart and night witch needs a buff (maybe a small damage or health boost on cannon cart and for night witch make it summon 3 bats each time instead of 2)

[@stevenoerlemans9414]

Hog is used alot, its not op at all but i wouldnt say its the most balanced.

[@Moesie]

Wym lol it is lmao. Its because its fast cheap and does great damage but has also lots of counters etc

[@Chilly_1]

​@@Moesie its not balanced then

[@Moesie]

@@Chilly_1 its balanced. You're just a noob midladder

[@darksoulcreeper7954]

Yea you just made it clear that all other cards need a buff. So In other sense it's the same thing as a hog rider getting a nerf.

[@anuragnathyal5889]

No , hog is overpowered , just people are used to handling this card that's why it looks balanced. It needs a slight nurf.IMO

[@Tylernap]

I normally agree with all your takes, but this one is the first one I’m going to have to disagree with. Been thinking for a while the hog rider could just use a slight hp nerf as it always gets that last second shot just like a royale giant. Especially playing against it on top ladder, hog rider is almost everywhere and I’ll play against it every few matchups

[@Moesie]

Nope you're just a noob. Hogrider is supposed to get that last hit, how else do u want him to win? U got bombtower nado goblin miner poisen cycle decks that are stopping it easely

[@Moesie]

Iant is already meh. The car is balanced it depends what deck u use with it and how u play. Like i said royale giant yk how op royale giant used to be? It had a 6.5 tiles range and couldve shot at bridge range They nerfed it with -1.5 tiles making it 5 tiles now

[@pastachief385]

I'd agree but hog is so easy to get a good counterpush against it since it only targets buildings and is easier to kill than the expensive win conditions. The real issue is when hog players have an impenetrable defense and you can't fight back, which is when the chip damage from hog becomes really unfair

[@Chilly_1]

​@@Moesie i dont want to use no skill miner poison

[@Moesie]

@@Chilly_1 then thats your problem. Your deck is midladder trash who cant defend hog lol

[@yo-sr5uq]

Just nerf his health a little why am I spending 10 elixir and still BARELY taking one hit

[@sirdabsalot1yt83]

I'd have to pretty heavily disagree. SC actively refuses to nerf hog, because they favor a more offense-heavy meta. But when defensive cards like spawners even come close to matching hog's use/win rates, they get nerfed into the ground. I'm not saying hog needs a nerf. I'm not even saying this is a bad design philosophy, because I agree with it. However I think it's disingenuous to say hog is well balanced when the devs have specifically and intentionally made it slightly overtuned. Meanwhile there are cards like the baby dragon or archers, which I think are about as fair and balanced as you can get right now.

[@tacticstonk4740]

The community loves hog rider to much to nerf at this point, even thought it is a very low skill card realistically

[@water_sponsored]

We need to see a hog cycle vs cannon cycle

[@danthefan2540]

Those counters still let the hog rider get that extra hit.. and that extra hit completely changes a game around. Hog just needs a very small health nerf

[@enn1924]

The hog gets a single hit and you get a full health troop to counter push, seems like a fair trade to me

[@megaextreme3184]

​@@enn1924you get a rocket damage on your tower and 4 elixir of advantage doesn't always let you deal that many damage

[@alvarojavier6274]

People in the comments don’t want hog rider to get nerfed, they want the whole 2.6 deck to get nerfed lmao

[@calliopehu1924]

Hog Rider isn't "balanced," it's actually slightly overtuned. Let me explain. It's very hard to get a positive elixir trade when defending the hog-you usually have to spend at least 4 elixir on it to defend perfectly (unless you've got tornado/fisherman/cannon). The resulting counterpush gets defended by cheap cycle cards, of course, which means that when they've finished defending they're even on elixir again and can spam another hog that you'll have to overspend on. This dynamic is really powerful and has been since like 2016. The power of hog rider means that every deck has to pack a counter to it, a perfect counter if they can manage. And yet the fact that this prevalence of hog counters is so widespread and yet 2.6 or hog eq are still so often meta, is a testament to how powerful and just slightly overtuned the hog rider is. If every deck ran double small spell, logbait would be forced out of the meta like yesterday. But top ladder has cannons and tornadoes and hell, hog rider in theory wouldn't love a meta dominated by buildings a la spawners, and yet it's perfectly playable so long as you run a champion and know how to defend.

[@moosoose4661]

I do admit it is true that it's hard to get a "positive elixir trade" against a hog but in reality you always do because now you have a counterpushing unit

[@snopdogg2x]

​@@moosoose4661full circle to cycle decks that defends for so little

[@moosoose4661]

@@snopdogg2x their defense yet still has a breaking point if you are equally efficient with your push

[@snopdogg2x]

@@moosoose4661 dawg wtf you defending with, healer and golem or sum?

[@moosoose4661]

@snopdogg2x there comes a point to where a hog deck can't defend anymore and thar point becomes easier to reach if you build you offense more effectively

[@Cuculele7777]

Monk is technically hog riders grandpa

[@thegamingbanana8679]

Very wrong. A balanced card is not seen very often because it is well balanced and not op. Only good decks and cards are being played often and if you play cr you see hogs everywhere meaning the card is op and needs a nerf

[@kanemotoyoshinorihousekeep2185]

That is like saying that electro giant is broken because it's everywhere. Hog rider is the most balanced win condition card in the game.

[@micahsarm]

​@@kanemotoyoshinorihousekeep2185 electro giant is good in a few decks while you can literally pair hog with anything

[@Zjznzzzzyzjsvzzbz]

​@@micahsarmSo you can put hog in siege and beatdown deck?

[@micahsarm]

@@Zjznzzzzyzjsvzzbz your argument is as nonexistent as your father. First: You can play Mortar (cycle siege) with hog rider and lots of people do it. Second: Hog rider's sole point is to be in decks that are supposed to catch the opponent with cheap cycles. Third: Then try making a Egiant cycle deck. Huh, how does that sound? Maybe try searching "electro giant vs hog rider decks" and you will see that hog rider has 2/3 times more decks involving it and since youtube deletes links dont ask me to show you

[@PolishGod1234]

​@@kanemotoyoshinorihousekeep2185Electro Giant IS indeed fucking broken

[@TomfooleryVA]

I used to feel like hog was op but now there's SO many ways to counter it. Plus it doesn't feel like it does too much damage as long as you have something attacking it like guards if it does reach the tower

[@iamepicfumo2360]

Do you even understand the concept of cycle decks??? The whole purpose is to send hog riders in getting one hit at a time slowly chipping away your tower then defending with cheap cycle cards till either you get outcycled so bad you lose a tower or the game goes into tie breaker and you lose

[@CedarTree-h9f]

Unrelated to the video, but tilt you got a good lava hound deck? I’ve been struggling on one lately 😔

[@moosoose4661]

Royaleapi

[@levelsofbrendan1167]

I agree with what some of the comments are saying but also the video. The hog rider is not a card that is too good or bad, it just is not balanced correctly. It ends up just being a card that relies on completely cycling and defending counterpushes to get another one. I feel if they reworked him to have slightly less health but do more damage it wouldn't make him worse, but make him more centered around the dynamic of predicting your opponents with spells and catching your opponent making mistakes. This means that spamming him at the bridge would be less effective, but hitting a nicely timed spell for one shot would be more effective. It's not that he's too good, just a card that makes for a very repetitive and annoying match. Just to elaborate on how I think he is balanced, imagine if the hog rider had the health of a giant, but only did 50 damage per shot. It wouldn't be a bad card, as it would guarantee damage if used with a spell and be annoying to defend, but just in general would be a stupid card and be annoying when put in the right deck that cycle the card and also defend your counterpush all the time. It wouldn't be the card itself that isn't balanced, it would be the playstyle of it, which is kind of what people are saying.

[@glencahill6942]

What I find particularly annoying about the hog rider is his place in mid ladder. People will be using the most mid ladder decks ever and just throw in hog rider as a win condition. It is literally no skill because they just throw mega knight on your push, wait for you to defend and then just spam hog rider at the bridge. L card

[@yehyuqii]

Bro played against me 💀

[@bigredszn]

The hog rider is the best win condition for cycle decks in my opinion but it is fair there are many 3 and 4 elixer counters, also only people that complain are midladder running megaknigjt wizard witch decks with no building

[@SarthakWasNotTaken]

It's a balanced card but it can really annoying sometimes

[@fefederoof]

People who lose to spell hog cycle are just bad. All you need to do is defend till 2x elixir and if your deck isn’t some crutch wizard or building spam, you should be able to generate a large counter push to completely negate any sort of chip you’ve taken. ALSO NEVER SIT ON FULL ELIXIR WHILE ON 2X. You can start a split in the back behind king, do anything rather than sit and play defense. Split lanes + spell assistance is impossible for hog decks to defend.

[@fulltiltgaming]

Hog cycle is a viable deck at top ladder.

[@Seniorlol1]

I think Ice golem is more balanced, sure he's used in less decks but still

[@fulltiltgaming]

The ice golem is pretty weak

[@Seniorlol1]

@@fulltiltgaming Tbh, does he need any changes?

[@011i3TK]

Hot take: valkyrie is underrated, just how overpowered she can be as well as doing splash damage. 2nd hot take: bat underrated is well to elixir doing good chip on the fence

[@muizmin]

Valk not really underrated, she just outclassed by Knight...plus, Valk actually very popular & heavily used, at least in mid ladder But u right on Bats...i would even say Bats arguably the best swarm card rn

[@The_K-Dude]

But the problem is the counters do a trash job of countering it. The hog needs a small hp nerf

[@memeenderman2170]

The problem is when you only got 1 good counter and you are up against a cycle deck and they also throw spells to instantly destroy your counter(s) to it

[@Brooklyn_Kruger]

I would say musketeer and goblin cage are also very balanced

[@fulltiltgaming]

Goblin cage is weak

[@Brooklyn_Kruger]

@@fulltiltgaming yeah but its quite balanced

[@AnemoWinds]

@@Brooklyn_Kruger I don't see goblin cage around. Just something to keep it up

[@lewisking291]

If hog rider had the tiniest health nerf it would be completely balanced

[@flamephoenix3486]

Hot take: give wizard attack a burn effect that does 50% of the original attacks damage after the hit over 3 seconds

[@EddyDaRealest]

Yo that is smart tho ngl

[@masterdingus7074]

Would the initial attack do the same damage it does now or less

[@flamephoenix3486]

@@masterdingus7074 the same probably

[@masterdingus7074]

@@flamephoenix3486 bwahahaha I like it

[@oakleyharrison9858]

I think the biggest problem with this is the hogs recent reliance on earthquake. If earthquake was never added hog might have completely left the meta and so how good hog is depends on how good earthquake is which has gotten a lot of balance changes

[@johnnyissuper6955]

Bro said a whole lot of nothing 💀

[@Rustic888]

Nah he spitting

[@DaWinnaPDX]

Looks like someone knows how to counter 2.6

[@ksej42]

I think arrows are the most balanced spell but for a card overall I would probably say skarmy

[@User58144]

I use fisherman to activate my king tower vs hog, after that place fisherman high in the field and for giants and other slower cards theyll drag the card across the battlefield until the card is dead

[@andrewbrown1675]

All these KZbinrs are talking about a totally different game than what 90% of players experience. In theory hog rider is balanced yes, but when the card is 2 levels higher than you cards/tower it is totally broken. All the cards meant to counter it don’t anymore. More so than most cards, an overlevelled hog rider is broken.

[@JAMESmmmmmm]

Did you ever consider you're just really shit at the game?

[@alex2005z]

Anything overleved is op.

[@SalmonRow]

​@@alex2005z what about tornado That aside, hog rider is especially broken because of the whole all or nothing nature of it, it barely gets countered by its counters, however when a level or two above its likely to get a hit unless you over commit

[@alex2005z]

@@SalmonRow all or nothing nature? Dude 1 hog hit wont lose you the game. And you can often afford to overcommit since hog decks dont have anything else to punish you with. Cycle decks, by nature, dont make nearly the same amount of use from being overleveded

[@MattiaNastasio]

yeah No shit like 75% of cards are broken when over leveled 😭

[@kirkwho4539]

Hog rider is a decent card alone, but paired with literally any small spell makes it obnoxious to deal with

[@SpicyInk]

The problem with the hog rider is most cards that counter it need to be played with very good timing and the ones that don't are cards that are probably in a least balanced state than it

[@manofsteal5066]

you mean that u suck at timing so it should be nerfed? I know mid ladder players suck but not that much

[@SpicyInk]

@@manofsteal5066 Ok so I suck because it's hard to perfectly time a mini pekka to kill a hog?

[@manofsteal5066]

@@SpicyInk it isn't that hard and u can always use skeletons or log or anything, since u won't need the log anyway

[@ReepsWasteOfTime]

I have been thinking the most balanced card is valk for years. It’s all around balanced imo

[@WuhiderStorm]

When I think of how balanced a card is the last thing I would think of is the hog rider. I mean yes it has a ton of counters but tell me a counter to hog rider that gives you a positive elixir trade there are very few cards and it's insane health attack speed speed and damage makes it too strong unless you have the few specific cards that counter it for a positive elixir trade (holy shit ppl relax if you disagree just say it don't hate on me for sharing my opinion )

[@fulltiltgaming]

Tornado, fisherman, skeleton army, goblin gang, cannon, tombstone. There are also around 6 or 7 4 elixir cards that full counter it.

[@rentalturtle1418]

This is the worst take I’ve seen in a minute, if you can’t counter a hog rider, stop playing Ebarbs rage lumberjack balloon.

[@anom6520]

​@@fulltiltgaming I wouldn't add buildings cus earthquake exists and it's the better alternative for hog cycle

[@zxzeshnik4701]

This man can't counter hog ahahaha

[@fulltiltgaming]

That makes it a 7 elixir push which means more positive elixir trades are possible

[@졸지마]

Hog perfectly fits to cycle decks and cycle decks usually have high skill ceiling. The higher skill the player has, more op the hog is. It's just matter of skills and hog itself is balanced.

[@졸지마]

The concept of hog card is straightforward. It targets the tower, it's cheap and fast, does a lot damage but easy to be countered. I guess that's why hog is so widely used from midladder to pros.

[@Chilly_1]

​@@졸지마 its not balanced still

[@iamepicfumo2360]

Nigga said cycle decks need skill 😹😹😹

[@jjhahn8319]

Got take: monk ability should get a rework where you can turn the ability off and on at different times whenever you want, but it costs two elixer

[@fulltiltgaming]

That would be too confusing.

[@btd6dp411]

That would be too op

[@MR_Foffe]

You can then just place a single monk in the middle of your side and any range troops would die and any melee troops would approach and get shot by princess towers and die. Basically impenetrable defence

[@alex2005z]

Absolutely broken

[@thorveim1174]

my main issue is that the hog is justhard to punish for somethign that isnt that easy to stop without over-invesing elixir. Thats mainly because its both strong, fast AND cheap, leading to it maybe being the most used win condition in the game through the entire lifespan of the game

[@orangejuice9631]

Bro i feel like losing a braincell everytime someone says hog rider is op or bad

[@fulltiltgaming]

It is one of the most annoying parts about Clash Royale on the internet.

[@noahwilson8996]

I think it could use a small first attack speed nerf but it’s pretty balanced overall

[@fulltiltgaming]

Nerfing it’s first attack speed would make it terrible. When it gets to the tower, it usually barely gets a shot off now. Nerfing it would make it much worse.

[@clauteletuby]

you see my idea of a nerf got a ‘reasonable’. im so much cooler than you 😎

[@noahwilson8996]

@@clauteletuby very cool😂

[@noahwilson8996]

@@fulltiltgaming all respect to you I agree with most of your opinions but I play hog rider and sometimes I think it needs a nerf

[@ripper9835]

@@noahwilson8996 W player

[@hypertension1011]

i need to add this part to so a level 15 hog rider can tank a lv15 sparky blast to the face and still hit the tower like wtf

[@TheVaur2]

It pretty good, needs a slight nerf, so maybe reduce hp by 5-15%

[@fulltiltgaming]

5-15% is HUGE

[@TheVaur2]

@@fulltiltgaming 15 % is medium, 5 % is not, 90% is huge.

[@ST-in7fo]

Increase first hit speed

[@Chrischone2]

@@TheVaur2no it’s not that little percent changes so many interactions lmao you don’t play at top level obv

[@TheVaur2]

@@Chrischone2 its a joke dipshit

[@Alcholic_cat]

He’s balance it’s just the fact you put him in a cycle deck and all of a sudden there is 4 of them

[@Rofu_]

You can’t say opinions are wrong as yours may not be correct to others

[@MattiaNastasio]

My deck gets hard countered by hog rider but i couldn't agree more

[@tiagogamer04]

He is just free dmg fr

[@beholdenpie]

Graveyard is more balanced

[@fulltiltgaming]

I would agree that graveyard itself is balanced, but graveyard is VERY meta dependent on how good it is. It is very reliant on how good the cards around it are.

[@aidenwrath1402]

Hog and the decks that he’s in makes it a huge matchup check is the thing. Most cards don’t reasonably counter him and the ones that do are usually hard-countered by an Earthquake

[@viniciusgoulart5077]

I believe the Hog Rider is way too versatile to be considered balanced. In a game where most cards can only be used in certain deck archetypes, a card like Hog Rider is OP imo

[@yunpac7240]

hog can only be used in cycle, its not versatile and its not even strong, rn its only good in one deck which is good only because mighty miner and goblins are broken

[@muizmin]

Hog rider isn't really versatile wym

[@alex2005z]

Hog rider is only used in cycle. 1 deck archetype.

[@Aria.dreamer]

Do you think when people go hog rider first play and you have no counters and take 2000 damage is balanced? And after that they just spam cycle cards and spam hogs and there is nothing you can do if you don't have tornado or fisherman

[@moosoose4661]

I didn't think a hyperbole could extend outside of one phrase...

[@alex2005z]

Almost every card in the game can stop a hog with just 1 hit. If you dont have one of those in your starting hand your deck sucks.

[@Danful]

This whole comment section is full of low ladder players who suck at the game smh

[@RehTroh]

I just hate how quick it is

[@owengriffith8141]

Agreed

[@Diver_liver]

They say he is overpowered but u place 3 elixir building and he ded

[@mariosnum1fan]

I agree. At least 70% of 4 elixir cards can deny a hit (for some, it requires precise timing). 3 elixir and below cards are decent as well. It shouldn’t be ignored

[@iamepicfumo2360]

Literally no lmao, can you say what those cards are??? only reliable way to counter a hog rider with one card is by buildings but that's not always an option if the opponent has eq or fireball, mini pekka of equal or higher level can full counter it very rarely by good timing but they can log or send ice spirits so the hog rider will get a hit on it anyway, not to mention getting out cycled if 70% of 4 elixer cards can deny a hog hit like you said then nobody would have complained about the hog rider

[@mariosnum1fan]

@@iamepicfumo2360 are you retarded? Or what? Mini pekka valk hunter ljack bomb tower (maybe baby or skelly drags), ewiz, mighty miner, freeze, goblin cage, I drag (just barely), night witch, Tesla. That’s literally 70% of all cards. Foh goofy anime looking guy

[@bitcoin-investment]

I’ll be honest giant feels way more balanced

[@Thomas_Angelo]

Hog rider should be the pinnacle of balancing the game.

[@im_not_jerm]

key word: opinion, opinions cant be wrong

[@jimmagas3500]

I feel like that the hog rider only needs like a 3% damage nerf cause even with all the counters if it gets to the tower even one hit does a lot of damage

[@JoshuaPayano-v7x]

Bro was like haha your opinions don't matter brrrrrr

[@mashu_uwu]

I do agree that he's balanced currently but the problem is because of how you play him when he gets an evolution that is going to be the most broken thing imaginable

[@TheKhan163]

The most balanced is actually Knight

[@erezsolomon3838]

There are a lot of cards, so the "most" balanced is quite an overstatement

[@ToiletWolf12]

I wouldn’t say the most balanced but it’s for sure up there. I think most cards can never be balanced because some decks just simply aren’t built to counter that card in particular

[@chuey.]

Ngl, could I see the deck you're using? It looks fun

[@fulltiltgaming]

Giant skelly queen log eq hog goblins ice spirit cannon

[@chuey.]

​@FullTilt Gaming thanks man 👍