Is Third-Place Possible Under Amorim?! | Uncensored

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@FullTimeDevils
@FullTimeDevils 2 күн бұрын
Where will United finish this season? Hit LIKE if you think we can make top six (at least)!
@jasonsumner3386
@jasonsumner3386 2 күн бұрын
Jesus I am a United fan and you think we can finish third? Your crazy.
@sunglee3935
@sunglee3935 2 күн бұрын
@@FullTimeDevils 4th
@crisseven1764
@crisseven1764 2 күн бұрын
Make America Great again 🇺🇸
@crisseven1764
@crisseven1764 2 күн бұрын
Joking about Jesus is extremely disrespectful and this panelist is a disgrace. Never watching again.
@crisseven1764
@crisseven1764 2 күн бұрын
Disrespecting Jesus is unacceptable. Curses will come on this channel!
@Collerz7
@Collerz7 2 күн бұрын
The 12m mazraoui signing shows exactly what’s been wrong with our transfer business. You don’t always have to spend 50+ million on the new “next best thing”. Nothing wrong with going for a guy who was at a big club and it didn’t quite work out for cheap or a lesser name from a lower club.. other clubs do it successfully a lot.
@playedout148
@playedout148 2 күн бұрын
Need to be like city and sign players for 70m but say it's 40m on the books and in the press.
@sharique7214
@sharique7214 2 күн бұрын
@@playedout148and get payments routed from third party
@corriedebeer799
@corriedebeer799 2 күн бұрын
We basically did a swap deal for him with Aaron and still managed to profit 3 million. Good business that, I agree.
@judeyyx2
@judeyyx2 2 күн бұрын
Yep, City with Akanji, Ake, etc. People act like it’s an 18 year old or a £100 million signing and there’s no in between. Baffles me.
@user-nf4yx4zo8l
@user-nf4yx4zo8l 2 күн бұрын
Anthony deal involved 40m payment to Ajax for their role in making Mazroui the player that he is
@lakeeffectkidd
@lakeeffectkidd 2 күн бұрын
“Let me finish, bro” After not letting Joe finish his point and speaking over him for 10 minutes lol
@adambrown3887
@adambrown3887 2 күн бұрын
Agree. Joe makes by far the best points on this channel but is constantly cut off by the others. Jay was a nightmare for it on this video!
@AlbertEinstein-mp3mb
@AlbertEinstein-mp3mb Күн бұрын
Lol
@farookpatel1376
@farookpatel1376 Күн бұрын
@@adambrown3887 Joe is a clown
@Colliedawg77
@Colliedawg77 Күн бұрын
@@farookpatel1376you mean Adam
@mikemorrow2184
@mikemorrow2184 2 күн бұрын
Joe's spot on here. Don't set the expectations too high. Give the man time
@mattt2523
@mattt2523 9 сағат бұрын
We're in this spot because our expectations have been too low. Listen to what Amorim says in his interview. It will take time but as he said, you win time by winning games. If you don't set high expectations you end up with a manager in his 3rd season who still talks about trusting the project / processes while regressing on the pitch
@ryanpitt8671
@ryanpitt8671 2 күн бұрын
I don’t think it’s a case of rangnick not being good enough, that was just point blank players being unreceptive
@g_od2080
@g_od2080 2 күн бұрын
Jay is a dog with a bone on this ragnick thing. It was clear as day the players downed tools. If you point to Austria as an example of proof to contrary there is some wibble excuse
@mw56101
@mw56101 2 күн бұрын
There was a situational issue as well, he will have wanted to change a lot, like he said "open heart surgery", and with the players knowing he was only short term, why would they buy into it. He had no real authority.
@d.b.cooper1
@d.b.cooper1 2 күн бұрын
Nah bs, Ragnick at United was just pure shite, all talk, no action. He said all the right things fans wanted to hear.
@ryanpitt8671
@ryanpitt8671 2 күн бұрын
@ not saying he’s great! I’m stating that the players played for like 40 minuets and gave up. If you think that had noting to do with it, well I don’t know what to tell you
@TheButteryBiscuitBass
@TheButteryBiscuitBass 2 күн бұрын
Think a lot of the fanbase was unreceptive of Rangnick more than anything else. I know I was as I was sulking about Ole being booted. 🙄
@SouvikB9865
@SouvikB9865 2 күн бұрын
Joe Smith is the only reason I watch this channel regularly. He understands nuance and views events with a rational lens. Don’t know the man personally but feel like I’d get along with him irl
@marcus8030
@marcus8030 Күн бұрын
He’s on his knees fir ETH still
@Mr.Monta77
@Mr.Monta77 Күн бұрын
@@marcus8030No he’s not.
@marcus8030
@marcus8030 Күн бұрын
@@Mr.Monta77 He 100 percent is. He’s making bad faith arguments and hiding behind say “some people “ when he’s talking about him. Ten hag has been sacked and he’s still defending him he’s embarrassing man
@Mr.Monta77
@Mr.Monta77 Күн бұрын
@ Nothing is black and white. Joe is contributing to nuance and various perspectives. That’s how he creates value. Maybe above you?
@ste4392
@ste4392 Күн бұрын
​@@marcus8030 it's probably because absolute melts think everything ETH did was bad
@TioPedro2
@TioPedro2 2 күн бұрын
The guy in red is gold
@playedout148
@playedout148 2 күн бұрын
100% right on shaw.
@limericklad2000
@limericklad2000 2 күн бұрын
Love them all, but Joe is the only person on this channel who understands logical thinking. It is entirely possible to make a decision based on the evidence available, an objectively good decision, that doesn't work out. The fact that something happened to make the decision not work out does NOT necessarily mean the decision was a bad one. You can only make decisions based on the information available, if the circumstances suddenly change to the extent that it means your decision doesn't work out that's nobody's fault.
@judeyyx2
@judeyyx2 2 күн бұрын
Joe absolutely does not have logical thinking when it comes to United 😂 he doesn’t do what you’ve just described, he takes a stance and then when proven wrong, acts like that’s what he’s been saying all along.
@galazore
@galazore 2 күн бұрын
Joe is delusional, and while he'll try and make a tempered statement, or espouse some logic, the hills he dies on and his train of thought are far from logical.
@steverito
@steverito 2 күн бұрын
@@judeyyx2incorrect, try again.
@limericklad2000
@limericklad2000 Күн бұрын
@@steverito so you’re saying a decision based on solid evidence that ends up leading to bad results due to unforeseen circumstances was a bad decision to begin with? Tell me, what are we to base our decisions on?
@fds3415
@fds3415 Күн бұрын
The problem with ten hag is many times he wasnt making “wise” decisions, ie making the right decision on the information available even if in hindsight it was wrong. His team selections were often bizarre. He couldnt seem to ever pick the right midfied. For example waiting so long to play ugarte but then ruud puts him in and he transforms the team. His purchase of mount was always questionable. And many more. I backed him half enthusiastically until the west ham loss where i felt if we lose he has to go.
@tylerwood8710
@tylerwood8710 2 күн бұрын
One of the things I noticed about Ten Hag is that after The Sancho Incident, he never, even veiled, criticised a player again. He just shut his mouth, defended the team, defended results, and never talked about anything behind the scenes. We don't know why some of those substitutions or starting 11s happened, but there's a LOT of gray area there. We just don't know.
@ohheyitskevinc
@ohheyitskevinc 2 күн бұрын
To be fair - Sancho has been a problem everywhere he’s been up until his current club. I think it was just - ETH had more well behaved, punctual players after problem players had left. After Sancho, ETH did talk about things behind the scenes: the comments on not wanting to sell McTominay but the club did being the stand out comment.
@tylerwood8710
@tylerwood8710 2 күн бұрын
@ohheyitskevinc I thought he said he didn't want to sell McTominay BEFORE he was sold, which is what all managers should say if they want to get a good price on a player.
@Mr.Monta77
@Mr.Monta77 Күн бұрын
TenHag would have been a fantastic manager. Except he just isn’t.
@Mr.Monta77
@Mr.Monta77 Күн бұрын
@@ohheyitskevincWas Sancho a problem at Dortmund? News to me.
@l1nx258
@l1nx258 Күн бұрын
​@@Mr.Monta77 he was regularly late and his commitment in training was questioned. He did the business on the pitch for them so they basically allowed him to do it.
@barryk00da
@barryk00da 2 күн бұрын
Joe, I've tried making that success/perspective point a hundred times but its like firing a nerf gun at a steel wall
@LeaoK2
@LeaoK2 2 күн бұрын
Not gonna lie yeah ,This is better than the international break.
@dannydude007321
@dannydude007321 2 күн бұрын
Everything's better than the international break
@gavinholian1505
@gavinholian1505 Күн бұрын
That wouldn't be hard 😂
@prafulhada9080
@prafulhada9080 2 күн бұрын
The problem with Ten hag was that when we got him we thought we were getting a technical/tactical genius and at most times we played like the players had no idea what to do when they got the ball and depended too much on individuals to get us off the hook.
@SayanSarkar99
@SayanSarkar99 2 күн бұрын
great to se mckaa back after some time in live
@peterhelmore2766
@peterhelmore2766 Күн бұрын
he's lost at cards
@Egil09875
@Egil09875 19 сағат бұрын
Not, clown
@theking-je1mw
@theking-je1mw Күн бұрын
Great to hear you singing the Calypso at the beginning of the show. My Dad, Ken Jones, wrote that in 1957. Very proud of that. UTFR!!
@StrettyHS313
@StrettyHS313 10 сағат бұрын
thats pretty cool tbf. its my favourite chant as well
@Mannyman348
@Mannyman348 2 күн бұрын
Jay randomly now has a blind spot to the fact our wingers do not pass or create for Hoijlund at all… he’ll get goals in a system that actually creates for others.
@bengreenbank
@bengreenbank Күн бұрын
He won’t. He’s shit.
@mattt2523
@mattt2523 8 сағат бұрын
It's because he'd have to admit Rashford is bobbins
@TomDallas138
@TomDallas138 2 күн бұрын
Rangnick said the club and players needed a inside out turnaroud to get anything done. He was right. And thats a big reason why i cant look at his spell as a bad one. I blame the players and the people that was running the club at the time. As did Rangnick.
@corriedebeer799
@corriedebeer799 2 күн бұрын
He never had much of a chance to succeed, I agree.
@AlbertEinstein-mp3mb
@AlbertEinstein-mp3mb Күн бұрын
Honestly this was one of the funniest bits of content I've seen from the Paddock... brill
@zakabi6605
@zakabi6605 2 күн бұрын
Adam: "Banger of a show, i belive man. they got video AND THAT, evidence AND THAT, aliens AND THAT. proof AND THAT"🤣🤣🤣gotta love him
@CampNou1999
@CampNou1999 2 күн бұрын
Sir Alex used to make plenty of decisions which made no sense to anyone but himself. Every single manager in history has done that. Every single manager in history has also depended on their players ability to score their clear cut chances.
@limericklad2000
@limericklad2000 2 күн бұрын
It's entirely possible to be optimistic about our chances of finishing in the top 4 and at the same time not go berserk if we don't.
@davidgriffith1552
@davidgriffith1552 2 күн бұрын
That is far too optimistic about the state of fans, online and in Manchester 😂. Feel like we’ve all lost the plot, the last ten years has just been awful.
@limericklad2000
@limericklad2000 Күн бұрын
@ therapy? Lol
@CairgyMmapetla
@CairgyMmapetla 5 сағат бұрын
no Sir its not. why would you set unrealistic expectations when we know reality with our fans
@limericklad2000
@limericklad2000 Сағат бұрын
@@CairgyMmapetla I didn't say anything about unrealistic expectations. Nobody should be expecting or assuming we're going to finish in the top 4, but there is legitimate cause for hope, we are by no means out of the race as of this moment.
@detroutspinners9933
@detroutspinners9933 2 күн бұрын
Jay on uncensored, yes lads
@captainroll
@captainroll 2 күн бұрын
Ngl, as bad as ETH had been (and it was bad), the way Adam and Jay turned on him so sharply in this video after supporting him for months when it was all shit, is geniunely disappointing. Proper backstabby attitude. Props to Joe for at least sticking to his beliefs 👍
@CbjK24693
@CbjK24693 Күн бұрын
Won’t lie I’ve been doing something similar talking to friends about it, I’m trying not to due to hypocrisy but was backing Ten Hag til the death because I hate when our managers get sacked. I think it’s when you reflect on it now you realise how bad we were for such a long time and it just sounds like you weren’t a fan but in my case that’s not true I’m just pointing out things he should’ve/could’ve done differently
@yanir31
@yanir31 Күн бұрын
Their mistakebis not that they flipped. Their mistake was to support that fraud for so long.
@Egil09875
@Egil09875 19 сағат бұрын
Jay and Adam cannot have a serious conversation.. they are the type of fans that get managers sacked. Kudos to Ruud, but lets be honest. Those games would probably been won under ETH aswell and frankly the performances werent much better. Joe is 100% right here.
@Kayyouen
@Kayyouen 4 сағат бұрын
Those types of games weren't won enough under Ten hag, that's the whole reason why he's not here anymore.
@jumpa654
@jumpa654 2 күн бұрын
Ten Hag was supposed to be that guy. He started so well. Look at his win percentage in his first 100 games. Fell off in the second season and never recovered. Even if Ruben doesn't start as well as ten hag, i'd like to see him build a squad that's capable of challenging for top honours in a few seasons time. Time will tell. Patience is key.
@playedout148
@playedout148 2 күн бұрын
So many managers have stopped knowing about ball when they got to united.
@J_PhD
@J_PhD 2 күн бұрын
For sure Amorim's chant must be sang on the tune of 'That's Amore' by Dean Martin!
@cfents8660
@cfents8660 Күн бұрын
I hate it when Dad, Dad and Dad fight.
@LeaoK2
@LeaoK2 2 күн бұрын
Not being carried away but Ruben is the truth 💯
@USGraham
@USGraham Күн бұрын
A+ episode. Would love a bit more breakdown into the difference between a "manager" and a "head coach." My perception is that it means he's not responsible for academy and transfers (perhaps more). Not that he's uninvolved but that it just isn't part of the main remit.
@Jacob_Oommen
@Jacob_Oommen 2 күн бұрын
We're 13 points off Top🔥
@lucasvanwijngaarden670
@lucasvanwijngaarden670 2 күн бұрын
Yet somehow only 4 points off third
@leehaslam5751
@leehaslam5751 2 күн бұрын
11 points off bottom
@shazu9536
@shazu9536 2 күн бұрын
Still to play Citeh, Liverpool and Arsenal
@divout6688
@divout6688 Күн бұрын
Fabregas wasn't going to come to Moyes-United. He stayed at Barca that summer and tried to fight for his place there. He went to Chelsea the year after. Bale had already left for Real Madrid and been there for a year or something I think. From what I remember the rumours was more around Fabregas and CR7 even though it was clear that neighter the players nor the clubs wanted to come/sell.
@74castle
@74castle Күн бұрын
Joes right to temper expectations.. these players sacked ten hag like they did Rangnick.. if it’s too hard they’ll quit and moan to the media. Doesn’t matter how good Amorim is, once the whistle blows it’s on the players, and too many of these lot are weak
@Avrad-l6k
@Avrad-l6k Күн бұрын
25:07 Disagree with Joe on this. I don’t think we should be basing our seasons goals off of last season. We had so many injuries and on top of that, let’s face it, a manager who was massively underachieving. Even in the post fergie era anything below 4th has been considered terrible and I think we just have players capable of making it to top 4. Now, if we don’t, does that mean Amorim should get sacked? Obviously not. He wouldn’t have had a full season nor a summer transfer window.
@ALong-fo5so
@ALong-fo5so Күн бұрын
I have no expectations of where we’ll finish this season, next season or the season after next. I’m willing to allow Amorim all the time in the world to do his job, and so should INEOS. That will let Amorim be able to express himself. The club didn’t allow ten Hag to do that by placing unrealistically high expectations on him. I want Amorim to finish as high as possible. But I’m not going to go crazy if United doesn’t qualify for Europe.
@jameskelland738
@jameskelland738 2 күн бұрын
George Napp is the guy who brought bob Lazar into mainstream in the 90s, he's the reason America acknowledged area 51...before that it wasn't acknowledged as a real place...plus fravor, or however you spell it, was a Commander 😊
@corriedebeer799
@corriedebeer799 2 күн бұрын
Ragnick getting a minnow nation like Austria doing well shows the problem with him at united was not the manager. He even got a relatively small German team like Schalke to a CL semi.
@mw56101
@mw56101 2 күн бұрын
Thing is Joe if he can't handle that pressure you talk of then he's also not the right man for the job
@LeaoK2
@LeaoK2 2 күн бұрын
Can we discuss the romantic relationship between gary cotterill and ruben amorim
@EatYourGroceries
@EatYourGroceries 2 күн бұрын
Yes. Anywhere between 3 and 5. Also mainstream media deserves all the disrespect, shoutout to Klopp for rightly insulting them.
@limericklad2000
@limericklad2000 2 күн бұрын
Remember when people were moaning about us selling AWB?
@craigbentley906
@craigbentley906 2 күн бұрын
Hard listen that lads, let Joe finish a sentance
@hamishmurison3764
@hamishmurison3764 2 күн бұрын
Moyes said on the overlap that Fabregas said he'll come if he wasn't in the starting IX for Barca and because that decision happened late, they then went for Fellaini. Too bad we never planned for backups back then 🤦
@katienixon2244
@katienixon2244 11 сағат бұрын
My Amorim chant. To the tune of "That's Amore" When the Reds take control, and we’re chasing the goal, That's Amorim! When the crowd’s singing loud, making Manchester proud, That's Amorim!
@limericklad2000
@limericklad2000 2 күн бұрын
Adam went full Ronaldo Brown this episode.
@Kris_jellybeard
@Kris_jellybeard 2 күн бұрын
Gyokeres didn't even score 15 per season when 21-22-23
@dessertstorm7476
@dessertstorm7476 2 күн бұрын
yeah, we could have our own Gyokeres right now but people want to write players off after 10 games.
@Nightsu
@Nightsu 2 күн бұрын
@@dessertstorm7476been here 1.5 seasons already and hasnt improved with the worst technical ability of any striker in the league. seeing awful players early is smarter than consistently making excuses of “give him time”. hes not 18
@Allegro_Giusto
@Allegro_Giusto 2 күн бұрын
​@Nightsu True. But not being technically gifted isn't the be all and end all to be a decent player. Especially a striker, tons of exmaples over the years. He can definitely finish, and his positioning overall is okay, and that can be improved, but there's plenty times he'd have a goal or two in a game where he just wasn't given it. He makes the movement and he isn't found. We need a starter, he'll be fine off the bench for the moment. We just can't get rid of him, we need depth.
@Nightsu
@Nightsu 2 күн бұрын
​@@Allegro_Giusto his positioning is horrendous. if he even had average positioning with all the chances we create we would have so many goals but he makes it impossible to pass to him (always hiding behind defenders or in bad positions). hes never been in a good position where he "should" have gotten a pass. if you look at it from a passers perspective the pass is impossible (either cut off or against the players momentum). as a prem player you need a basic level of technical ability. a first touch, ball control, balance, short passing etc. he has none of that. **I say this to everyone who thinks he's got potential or is good enough to play for united. watch him carefully. watch the runs he makes, the timing, and if passes are actually possible. watch where he stands on cutbacks (is he in space? is the angle correct? anticipation?). watch his first touch when he gets passed to and if he can control the ball to get a shot off or link up (trampoline touch) i HATE people who blame "service" because thats 30% of it. its a strikers job to make the run for an easy pass and why haaland gets so many attempts.
@Allegro_Giusto
@Allegro_Giusto Күн бұрын
@Nightsu I don't just blame it on service. But there's plenty of examples you know that. You can't compare Haaland the quality he has and the quality of service in a well oiled system. We don't.
@jedsithor
@jedsithor 2 күн бұрын
I predicted before even looking at the table that United would be in the top four by January. It feels like a classic PL season where everyone drops points early on (though it looks like Liverpool might run away with it) and the table won't really shake out until after the hectic Christmas period. This is why I wanted to give ten Hag and Ole before him until the end of their respective final seasons to turn things around. Then I looked at the table and saw that we're only 5 points off third (well, 4 but we're not gonna make up the goal difference quickly) and if Amorim can get the team functioning quickly, top four really should be an expectation rather than a hope. Our actual position in the table is kinda irrelevant until February or March. Right now we need to be looking only at points differences and on that metric, we're doing OK. If we were taking our chances we'd already be comfortably in the top four. Now, saying that, if Amorim wants to use the rest of the season to get his ideas across and results are secondary for him, that's fair enough but top four is so close that I don't think he'll do that. Speaking of Amorim, I was blown away by his first interview. I think every manager figures out what's really wrong at United by the time they get sacked but Amorim might be the first guy to realise what's wrong at the beginning of his tenure rather than the end and that just might give him a chance.
@thebiglebrowski3695
@thebiglebrowski3695 2 күн бұрын
We are also 5 points off 17th, though. 5 points isn't a small number when you have so many teams above you that also need to drop points for you to catch up. It isn't just a case of getting 5 points ourselves. I like the optimism but top 4 is definitely not an easy task and I don't think it is fair to expect it. Amorim would honestly be better off if we don't make it to 4th.
@davidgriffith1552
@davidgriffith1552 2 күн бұрын
@@thebiglebrowski3695A good Europa League run, top 6 from where we’re at now, with a team that looks like they are comfortable with each other on the pitch would be ideal for me. Bring some joy back to watching United, and that’s not about winning trophies in the end.
@mrneveryoumind
@mrneveryoumind 2 күн бұрын
YAY! Predictions. You're really good at them (see start of season predictions).
@CJ_191
@CJ_191 Күн бұрын
These 3 are great together 😂
@corriedebeer799
@corriedebeer799 2 күн бұрын
With 27 games still left in the season and the fact that there is 10 points between 1st and 13th. A lot of things can still happen. Teams can go on a run and drop offs can happen. Nothing is won in November.
@Daveire-2z1
@Daveire-2z1 2 күн бұрын
RUBY RUBY RUBY 🎶 🎵 THATS THE CHANT
@TheButteryBiscuitBass
@TheButteryBiscuitBass 2 күн бұрын
Was thinking about renaming my fpl team Ruby Ruby Ruby Ruben. Instead I opted for a swap of Ruud Dog’s Dweebs to Rube Dog’s Dweebs.
@-bobrelph
@-bobrelph 2 күн бұрын
Morning everyone. I’m trying not to be too excited about Amorin but from what I’ve watched, he makes changes that work when his team is losing, which Ten Hag struggled to do and heads went down. I’m lying I can’t wait. Thanks for everything you do.
@GoheadGaucho
@GoheadGaucho 2 күн бұрын
remember ten hag first season? finish 3rd and a throphy, he got praise a lot that season for changing 2nd half with tactical tweak. 2nd season was all of the opposite 😅
@nw-a382
@nw-a382 2 күн бұрын
I don't think ten Haag had a full squad to be able to mix it up in all honesty. time will tell with RA
@corriedebeer799
@corriedebeer799 2 күн бұрын
I'm also buzzing at the appointment. I know we have been burnt before but when last have we gotten the best manager in class at united? A lot of things can still go south, but there is no doubt from what was available this is probably the best we could have gotten.
@theodorethaver-sp9vx
@theodorethaver-sp9vx 2 күн бұрын
​@@GoheadGaucho came third with Ole's squad. That is all
@GoheadGaucho
@GoheadGaucho Күн бұрын
@@theodorethaver-sp9vx so if amorim achieve , for nxt 3/4 years he achieve it with ten haag squad that is all
@dessertstorm7476
@dessertstorm7476 2 күн бұрын
I flip flopped on Ten hag a few times but that time we were down to 10 men and he didn't change anything we even continued to man mark all players didn't make any sense, that's basic stuff right, you can't man mark when you have 1 less man. His lack of adaptability during games was the problem. We had so many games where the first 20 mins looked alright, then eams figured us out pretty fast and we failed to adapt
@zinedinezidane4771
@zinedinezidane4771 Күн бұрын
But that also shows up the lack of intelligence from the players to try and sort it out themselves.
@LittleSecrets1000
@LittleSecrets1000 2 күн бұрын
The Bobby Valentino/Anonymous reference was criminally underrated.
@Club1878
@Club1878 Күн бұрын
Naive to think signings won’t be levelled against Amorim. It doesn’t matter if it’s an Ineos decision or not. The minute one goes wrong the headline will be “Amorim signs flop”.
@joeh4303
@joeh4303 Күн бұрын
Mason Mount could turn out to be very effective for Amorim....if he can stay fit
@sebastianovillano7474
@sebastianovillano7474 2 күн бұрын
If anyone is wondering, the documentary Adam is talking about is about Trea Turner when he went to the Philadelphia Phillies in 2023
@kurt5079
@kurt5079 2 күн бұрын
Is 3rd possible? What happened to let's write off the season and use the time for him to implement his formation and style of play for next season?
@Ruben-so7pu
@Ruben-so7pu 2 күн бұрын
Lets not get stupid please. I want progress and an identity, thats what matter for this season. This squad still needs 4 to 5 great players.
@nramallho
@nramallho 2 күн бұрын
Can’t believe you lot are still doubting that top 4 is a given. As most likely is winning the Europa League. Mark my words. I’ll be coming back here when it’s done and dusted.
@mjb154
@mjb154 Күн бұрын
Hayden was the overseas pro for their club (Greenmount), in that era quite a lot of young up and coming players would do it in their off season.
@13skiba
@13skiba 2 күн бұрын
You three together always get me laughing and you talk sense too. Need more.
@EmptyGlass99
@EmptyGlass99 2 күн бұрын
Success will the the eye test. ETH never passed that one - United were usually painful to watch. If United start playing well, the results almost don't matter.
@LeaoK2
@LeaoK2 2 күн бұрын
I love this club and all the drama that comes with it.
@DeadInsideDave
@DeadInsideDave 2 күн бұрын
joe stop get help. no more narratives
@edwardopoku5421
@edwardopoku5421 2 күн бұрын
so first time I've seen Jay interrupt Joe consistently and not allow the point to be made. In most of the cases Jay mentions, you can see _why_ the decision was made, it's the result that makes the decision "baffling". Against Crystal Palace, the front line was working, but hadn't broken Palace down. Subbing them for fresher legs might have been want broke the deadlock... it didn't work, but you can see what he was thinking. If anything my personal issue was the substitutes should have started and we didn't have anyone to We've consistently had an issue with "Amad must start/ Ganracho must start" because what most really want to say is "Rashford should be benched". That is fair, but most coaches won't do that to a senior player (and if they did and it kicked off, we'd blame the coach a la Sancho). Garnacho was scoring, Amad got benched more. It is understandable, even if most didn't like it. Rashford's best performance also came he wasn't defending and we were leaking chances on his end. Maz playing #10 set up our goal. He also was moved back to RB later in the game after Dalot made the mistake that cost us the win. Jay forgot the most glaring pre game baffling decision imo - Erikssen routinely played when i didn't expect him to. We had certain deficiencies that were then exploited (Twente goal). But I'm sure Jay forgot because Erikssen but largely played well and scored goals or assisted in that time. So doesn't get flagged as 'questionable'. Not saying i even agree with all of ETH's decisions here...but most of the time the gamble taken was clear - just didn't pan out. So trying to say it never made sense or it was questionable is directly linked to the result. If we start trying to play 3 back under Amorim and it isn't working, very quickly people will start saying the same thing... even if underlying performances are, indeed better. Bottom line: ETH ran was unlucky to a degree but he ran out of time and was rightly sacked. Amorim needs our patience (and luck) to avoid a similar fate.
@jedsithor
@jedsithor Күн бұрын
Slaves didn't build the pyramids. Egyptians did and they were paid for their work. Exodus never happened and even if it did, the book never says the Israelites built the pyramids. It's an invention of popular culture. People associate Egypt with pyramids and mashed them together.
@bez7481
@bez7481 2 күн бұрын
We are banging on about him beating city, Harlan’s should have scored 4 in the first half, they had no defence and 2 debutants. We still have the same shower of players and if we play 3 at the back we will get chaos
@barryreeve6105
@barryreeve6105 2 күн бұрын
One point that makes a difference is that Ruben only does interviews has too and no more. Thats why I don' think the job will consume him like other managers for that reason.
@mrgusse
@mrgusse 10 сағат бұрын
Thank you Joe for being a voice of reason. We need to have realistic expectations if we expect a 4th place and a trophy then it will be a failure if we finish 6th without trophy. We can HOPE for it, but can't expect it
@conororeilly6437
@conororeilly6437 2 күн бұрын
The year is 2034. Amorim has won his 7th PL title and 3rd CL. Joe is still adamant ten Hag was unlucky
@edwardopoku5421
@edwardopoku5421 2 күн бұрын
and he'd be right. He would also be right in saying ETH had to go when he did.
@davidgriffith1552
@davidgriffith1552 2 күн бұрын
That could happen, and it wouldn’t make Joe wrong lol.
@Supertoadgti
@Supertoadgti 2 күн бұрын
If we said the rule is No Leeds players Imagine No Cantona No Rio
@rootsraf
@rootsraf 2 күн бұрын
Joe just confidently stating that the pyramids were built 4000 years ago by genius Egyptians without having a scooby
@DavyMagowan
@DavyMagowan Күн бұрын
Aliens built the pyramids go to Egypt and look at the hyroclifics on the walls the proof is there
@scottsinner7530
@scottsinner7530 Күн бұрын
And your alternate theory is……?
@rootsraf
@rootsraf Күн бұрын
@scottsinner7530 I don't have one personally, I'm not a theoretician. I know what my opinion is. It's a highly debatable and contentious dating as is the argument that it was achieved by slaves using copper tools in the time frame suggested. If you haven't dived down this particular rabbit hole, I highly suggest you do. With a sceptical yet open mind. Start with the work of Robert Schoch, a geologist who studied potential water erosion marks on the Sphinx enclosure.
@pleopod
@pleopod 22 сағат бұрын
You can’t extrapolate current points and results for the last three games for the teams fighting for 4th, 5th and 6th because they are by nature inconsistent. Clubs will drop points but there’s no certainty we will win at the same time and close the gap. Being consistently top four season after season is the first goal for the club. It will help attract players and will improve club culture. Finally UFOs and Man United in same show - that’s bingo for me.
@p3qU3t0n
@p3qU3t0n 2 күн бұрын
Great to see Mckola back after 1 year
@shaunsart
@shaunsart 2 күн бұрын
Nice to see Shaw being called out. This is a proper United channel, that other one is ridiculous click baiting nonsense
@Kreative_A
@Kreative_A Сағат бұрын
Joe, as a fan, please don't confuse optimism and belief for pressure.. We as fans should always be optimistic, and our optimism (and belief) that'll transfer to the team..! At times, it'll be THE thing to get them over the line. If you're talking as a journalist and for your channel, then feel free to do as you please.
@hemp10
@hemp10 2 күн бұрын
Uncensored is the best show on KZbin
@hamouz1999
@hamouz1999 2 күн бұрын
McKola is the reason I'm subscribed to this channel 😂
@AlbertEinstein-mp3mb
@AlbertEinstein-mp3mb Күн бұрын
His chemistry with Jay and Joe is just brilliant
@chikku807
@chikku807 Күн бұрын
Why aren't Steve and Adam featured together? Did something happen? 😅
@AlbertEinstein-mp3mb
@AlbertEinstein-mp3mb Күн бұрын
@chikku807 personalities are too similar so only one is required particularly given they all have stuff to do themselves
@chikku807
@chikku807 Күн бұрын
@@AlbertEinstein-mp3mb ah understandable , thanks
@sionedge
@sionedge 2 күн бұрын
Really enjoyed this one fellas. Nice one
@punctualwizard
@punctualwizard Күн бұрын
Joe's pragmatism is correct, regardless of if people understand why or if they agree. 24:25 "Does this now create an expectation for Amorim that 4th is a possibility? and if you don't get it - people will criticize you." He's not saying you shouldn't believe or hope we can get top 4. I think we will be on the same points as Arsenal on Christmas, just to share my own optimism. But what Joe does say is we need to present a narrative where we can look at the season as an improvement (from last year) when we finish 6th, rather than give in to the giddiness and click-mongering brigade of hopium sellers. I couldn't agree more, because from a "neutral" media perspective it is classic technique to build them up to break them down. So weaponizing any good from the change of guard will happen. & the papers and pundits and every other club's supporters will still take any and every opportunity to critique and lambast real or perceived failings by end of season.
@theafricanchild9154
@theafricanchild9154 Күн бұрын
They have started their clueless expectations. This coach has not even played one game yet and they are talking about 3rd position. Lower your expectations so the disappointment won't hurt too much
@Civilis1980
@Civilis1980 2 күн бұрын
After Ruud left PSV, we had one of the best seasons in the history of Dutch football. Presumably the same will happen at Man U 👍
@davidgriffith1552
@davidgriffith1552 2 күн бұрын
I agree with Joe! We really, really need patience with a manager and a long term player overhaul. It ain’t happening in January or next summer or the next four windows. I fear that Amorim will be thrown under the bus if he’s not hitting top four each season and a trophy…
@Pmf6142
@Pmf6142 Күн бұрын
I wonder is there an alternate universe where Joe is able to finish a sentence without being interrupted....
@4Bester
@4Bester Сағат бұрын
Ten Hag felt like a scientist who knew exactly what needed to be done to get results. But his practical application of it in English football against the likes of Klopp, Pep, and Arteta. Plus every team in the league working you hard for the entire game regardless of the scoreline became too much for him. He lacked the charisma to pull a group of misfiring players together for the week in week out adrenaline rush of the Prem. He could get them up for cup runs, but not the bread and butter where a loss didn’t mean elimination. Amorim seems like he can do the theory and tactics, but also has the charisma of the other top modern managers.
@AlbertEinstein-mp3mb
@AlbertEinstein-mp3mb 2 күн бұрын
So funny this episode... bravo
@TheRedgoan
@TheRedgoan 2 күн бұрын
Adam wants to believe.....The truth is out there!!!!,,,👽👽
@GLAZERSOUTGGMU
@GLAZERSOUTGGMU Күн бұрын
I wouldn't even let Joe back on the coach on the way home after his performance.
@toolebukk
@toolebukk 9 сағат бұрын
As far as I am concerned, if we're 4p behind target when a manager takes over, we should end up no more than 4p behind target at seasons end to claim improvment
@grahamshaw3802
@grahamshaw3802 2 күн бұрын
Players did down tools for Ten Hag end of last season they were chucking it in Fulham Palace
@karlmgreenhill
@karlmgreenhill Күн бұрын
I actually think Maguire might be a big part of amorims team initially. The best version of Harry has always been in a three.
@TheButteryBiscuitBass
@TheButteryBiscuitBass 2 күн бұрын
Brightened up a gloomy boring international break Saturday, cheers lads. 😊
@LeaoK2
@LeaoK2 2 күн бұрын
The modern sir alex era is here to stay...Ruben get in.
@mavrikman
@mavrikman 2 күн бұрын
You lot need to watch Shane Gillis doing his bit on Trump's 'Beautiful Dogs' speech. Absolute gold
@onslowwww
@onslowwww Күн бұрын
It's impossible for Joe to land a single point without either Jay, Macca or both shouting over him. You guys need a damn "speech apple" or some shit to hold when it's your turn to speak.
@Club1878
@Club1878 Күн бұрын
The difference needs to be like Klopp in his first years. If we are slapping teams 6-2 one week then drawing 0-0 the next but having loads of chances people will get behind it. As they will see it’s minor tweaks needed that will result in more consistency. The simple fact is: entertainment + goals=time Even if the results aren’t all perfect.
@linvilleb1910
@linvilleb1910 Күн бұрын
Forget praying. Bring back the “ATTACK ATTACK ATTACK” CHANT
@IIKLEIBSII
@IIKLEIBSII 23 сағат бұрын
Man Macka is the goat. His rant on Luke Shaw is the best 😂
@caniz80
@caniz80 Күн бұрын
Amorim will probably play better league football. But I don't see us winning a trophy for a long time again. When ten hag 1st came he had that spirit when he swore on TV after the Liverpool game etc. but the media, fan base and the UTD pr team took it all away from him. I hope amorim doesn't fall the same way.
@King-Chub
@King-Chub 2 күн бұрын
That combine harvester pun was amazing Joe 😂👏🏼
@karimA98
@karimA98 Күн бұрын
Something does feel different about Ruben compared to Erik. He has something about him that's different, the charisma is different but also the way the club has gone about the PR feels bigger and more committed. Exciting times ahead I feel.
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