Do YOU Pirate Games? - Dude Soup Podcast #7

[@JamesWillemsStuff]

Everyone should do what they've gotta do, but please BUY Psychonauts so that they'll make a sequel and I can be the voice of a toilet.

[@jasonfajardo8109]

Beautiful, beautiful eyes....*Moans*

[@nilo469]

James Willems I'm sure many people would love to sit on that toilet.

[@Pierced369]

Well... too late for that... They are already working on the 4th game.

[@pablopaul9116]

I got u covered

[@fcknmrcls]

Alright, but if you become a millionaire, you have to pay me twice the amount I give for the game now. Deal?

[@ElectrickFun]

I pirate. I've been pirating my whole life. Im not gonna stop pirating.

[@TwoMilky]

Wow you're so cool.

[@ElectrickFun]

Whorax Yes I am. I get my games and i dont pay for it.

[@toyester4570]

ElectrickFun I'm also cool, I live on benefits. I get my money and I don't work for it. *sarcasm*

[@TwoMilky]

ElectrickFun Yeah, I bet you're fun to hang around.

[@derekcunningham6956]

RingoFreakingStarr stfu

[@VL4DST3R]

Here's how I do it : 1. New game appers. 2. Check YT to see gameplay to figure out if it is any good. If it is then: 3. Pirate it. 4. Play and figure out if I ACTUALLY like it, if I do, then keep playing it. 5. A few months/a year later Steam has it on sale and if I still have good memories about that game, then I will buy it and probabbly play it again. And so, I won't accidentally spend money on a crap game just because i didn't know better. How about you guys ?

[@StormerPlaysMc]

Good Idea but it is a bad idea because things are cheap and it's hard to pirate

[@kardaslt]

StormerPlaysMc whats cheap games? in uk its fucking 40-50 pounds for a game are they insane

[@RJmacpot720]

Vlad Lazanu hi nsa/cia/fbi ... i want a job after u bust this guy above me

[@ham_ham86]

it's basically managing our money, pirating prevents us from buying bad games.

[@HoogleZ]

If I find a game that seems interesting, 1. Read reviews & watch gameplay (Twitch/KZbin) 2. Unless the price isn't already affordable/reasonable, then wait for a sale where it is. 3. And just before I buy it, I like to just take a quick look on discussion page & customer reviews to check if there's anything important that I should know before I buy the game.

[@ThatSeabass]

oh my goodness, I love how self-aware you are about your role, your community, and the industry you are a part of. I love listening to your commentary on fan interaction as well as everything regarding gaming a whole. I was so sad when inside gaming ended, but I love what you have been able to be with the freedom of Funhaus.

[@walrusking14]

Japan is a really good example to add to what you guys said about piracy being based around factors like income, and availability. Japan's entertainment industry "suffers" heavily from what is known as the Galapagos Effect. It's basically where a culture exists outside of the influence of the rest of the world, and certain cultural differences crop that are unique to that location. Up until WW2 Japan had very little contact with the economies of Europe and America; therefore its established its own unique stance on pricing, and later piracy. For example the average 24-26 episode anime costs around $50 in the US. These are either sold in a complete collection, or split in two parts. In Japan however, most 24-26 episode shows are split up into 4 episode pieces, with each part costing about 50-60 USD. That means your average Cowboy Bebop, or GITS cost around 300 bucks. With pricing like this would think piracy would run rampant through Japan, yet their piracy levels are relatively low. Actually American piracy of anime and games does more damage to Japan than, the Japanese themselves. This is why Japanese companies are so hesitant to sell there products in the US and Europe, because they'd only make a faction of the money the can make domestically. Just a little insight into weirdness of Japan's economic situation.

[@Thief164]

walrusking14 And only recently have they tried to put a foot across the line again and saw the results of making their entertainment easier for us to access. Take the Light Novel of Sword Art Online as an example, when it was put on shelves, it was the highest selling thing B&N had at the time and the slow but sudden influx of Visual Novels that showed up because people were wanting them. It was surprising to see a legal version of Steins;Gate was being sold and seeing Clannad's kickstarter being beyond successful. The only things in the way for anime is licensing laws and how vague it is and region locking. "Oh hey this thing is subbed in Engli- wait can't watch it, it's been region locked for NA only because they don't have the EU license." In an odd way, piracy actually helped their entertainment industry grow because before any of this showed up there were very little ways for other countries to watch it. Before Simulcasting there were fansub groups (which are still active) and before that were the VHS tapes.

[@themightyboo7020]

very true. japan has such a low crime rate that i doubt there are many pirates. however, such a large amount of people in us/europe use crunchy roll now instead of buying cd's, that i would think the piracy rate is much lower than what it probably was in the late 90s/ early 2000's.

[@3p1cBlu3]

I used to pirate the fuck out games and convince myself that i would buy them later. Really, i was just trying to justify my fuckery. But that was a long time ago Steam converted me, and now i'm a steam fanboy and a proud member of the church of Gaben. That was my testimony Ahmen, Gabe be with you.

[@vivpunk1258]

ALL HAIL GABE

[@DefrankedChannel]

ALL BOW TO VALVE, GABEN IS OUR SAVIOUR, STEAM IS OUR SANCTUARY

[@MrExilEDeadman]

me too, mostly because it was so hard to buy games in my country though. Steam really change us. lol

[@johnchaser7369]

Thought this was gonna be another episode with Captain Kris

[@snowboundhusky1721]

john i see you comment on sooo many youtube vids

[@Sinfusion2143]

Snowbound Husky CHASER DOES WHAT HE LIKES.

[@legit0101]

Describe yourself in 8 words.

[@johnchaser7369]

legit0101 Not sure if i know that many

[@TheRealBeardyPenguin]

legit0101 Hell bound llama riding dangerous sociopathic military leader

[@SimonHDTV]

Just don't pirate indie games, because these companies actually need the money to get off the ground. Pirate all the EA and Activision games you want, they could do with losing some money...

[@SlackerInThePub]

I had to pirate Hotline Miami 2 in order to play it (gotta love Australia) and I feel horrible

[@krajce1]

***** how will you get caught ???? you are not selling the pirated copies

[@SimonHDTV]

I also want to say I've never pirated a game, and I wouldn't recommend it for anyone. It is stealing, but if you're gonna steal, steal from the obscenely rich

[@akalion213]

***** Yeah because a lot of people were put in jail for pirating games

[@Deep_Magician]

Malpasaurus See, I was all prepared to pirate it, but then I was given a link to a place that sold global Steam keys. It worked fine for me, and I got to support some incredibly cool devs like I wanted to (plus Steam keeps the game updated, so convenient).

[@rediceman222]

Honestly I agree so much with how you guys describe the heists, it provides such a great cinematic experience without being so heavily scripted. Like when my two friends come out with the guy who's escaping and they like run frantically to the plane as I shoot down the choppers shooting them was almost like it was straight out of a movie and its one of the coolest experiences in gaming I've had.

[@TylerMcVeigh1]

I'm getting a feeling they would enjoy PayDay 2...

[@anonymouse8686]

yes its the perfect co op game for them I'd love to see them play it

[@DJogdog]

anonymouse8686 Except they can't aim for shit. And honestly teamwork isn't their forte.

[@anonymouse8686]

Loftty OG exactly seeing them fuck up would be even funnier lol

[@darkwrath0952]

Payday 2 a coop game? ha-ha funny joke.

[@darkwrath0952]

Well i don't know if you understand sarcasm, but what i meant was how uncoordinated it is compared to gta. and it is way to serious for them, any way.

[@d3a7hr0wasd]

Not pirating Ubisoft games makes you a bad person

[@toyester4570]

***** So because I don't pirate ubisoft games (because I don't want any ubisoft games) that makes me a bad person? And if you don't want to give ubisoft money don't buy their games, but don't pirate their games either.

[@ShutterSnapped]

***** Honestly if I like a game from a publisher/developer, it makes my purchase even more satisfying that I am inadvertently pissing people off who think they can tell me what to do with my money.

[@toyester4570]

Pareidolia Not sure by what you mean "it makes my purchase even more satisfying that I am inadvertently pissing people off" How is you spending money pissing people of? I guess you meant pirating pisses them of? Anyway there are fairer ways to piss them off (not buying their games) because whilst you may think your actions are pissing of a huge evil megacorp, you are also pissing of all the hard working devs who live modest lives and have families to feed. They also happen to be the same devs who are told by their shareholders to enforce more drm to stop people like you. so instead show them their is a problem with the companies actions not just piracy in general, to fix the problem.

[@alechuntsman9524]

***** it also makes you a law following citizen

[@ShutterSnapped]

***** I think you misinterpreted my comment lol. I like paying for games not pirating. The "people" I like pissing off are the pirates who say "Pirate the game! Don't spend your money!"

[@MrAG1996]

Key to piracy:Lower the average price of games,people will buy more,101 economics

[@MrAG1996]

***** Yes you lose money from people who would have bought the game in the first place(without changing the price),but you have more sales and redeem your loss,and if played right you get more benefit.

[@Omgimsocool413]

And then we get $80+ worth of dlc...

[@MrNerdCustard]

The key to beating piracy is offering a better service than the pirated copy.

[@sandromnator]

But wouldn't lowering games actually cost the company money?

[@dunhillsupramk3]

***** and right now they are selling games for $60 and about $160 worth in DLC...... if they sell games for $30 (all DLC and game for $60) i'm sure they would get more people to buy their game to a point where they would make more money overall

[@AssassinsDen4]

Pirating games is allowed *ONLY* in a few situations: 1) Testing a game to know the optimization and if your pc can handle it 2) Making sure the game ain't broken like AC Unity, Battlefield 4,...... 3) If the games in your country are worth ALOT more than it is. Games in some countries reach 1000 [insert currency] Other than that, you *MUSTN'T' pirate a game unless you're a thief from the beginning and like stealing people's extremely hard work, especially indie devs.

[@helenaadawilson3009]

I Wouldnt say the 2nd one but the others are fine to me. As long as for the first one you buy it after.

[@lolzombiemuffin]

Pirating games is allowed ONLY in a few situations: If you want the game for free

[@helenaadawilson3009]

Sh1t D1ckKK no. i dont think so. You have to pay for a game all the time unless its like 300+ pounds.

[@lordkiff3243]

Here is an idea, instead of pirating the game to see if your pc can handle it just read the recommended specs or download the demo. Then you don't need to brake the law.

[@madeline1815]

lordkiff32 "Demo"? What demo? These developers don't release demos any more. Also, recommended specs don't help you at all, because sometimes the game is overselling itself (Such as, in Payday 2, Nvidia recommended the lowest settings because my PC couldn't handle it, but I still have it cranked up to high settings with AA on, and I still manage the same amount of FPS), or if you don't know a lot about computers.

[@papy1141]

I'm only here for the Personality. The gameplay is a bonus. Plus I love bruce.

[@ryanhenry4771]

I love the half-closed eyelids on the balloon Adam. Makes it perfect.

[@кяуртіс]

As Adam brought up with us Aussies, we gypped on EVERYTHING digital. All our games are $99 digital, our movies and stuff are between $12 and $20+ just for the standard quality and even more for HD. Our government thinks that it is fair to put GST on non physical items and content treating it as if it was physical and required an extra cost to be added as it does to compensate for the price of getting it shipped etc. They also don't convert the currency correctly for subscription based services, they use a set ratio from god knows when and dont ever compensate for the exchange rate changing.

[@кяуртіс]

On the subject of why pirate. I personaly only pirate games that I am iffy about an unsure if I will enjoy, if I happen to enjoy it and especially if it has an online element to it I will go out and buy it. Buying games on PC without prior experience with them is very risky especially if you are buying a physical copy. Yes they are 20 bucks cheaper BUT what if they don't run on your pc, you don't like it or hell your pc shits itself and you need some money to fix it that is where the issues start because you can't return or trade in PC games and most of the time if not 99% of the time the place of purchase will refuse to give you a refund no matter what even if it is steam or origin.

[@dunhillsupramk3]

maybe try talking to your government, maybe they are just a bunch of old men that don't even know what these games are about and these games got age limits and the whole idea of a video game confuse them so educate them.... they banned GTA5 in stores but yet in the same store 50 Shades of gray was allowed? (which actually promotes domestic violence)

[@кяуртіс]

rapier332 It is nowadays but gst is supposed to be added to compensate for import of a product from overseas that we otherwise wouldn't have hense the name Goods and Service Tax. You are paying someone to post, recieve and process the goods when the arrive here BUT the government god greedy and made companies put it on non physical items such as digitally distributed games. Was it not for this gross taxation of products we would be paying $60 for games everywhere digital AND physical.

[@ZeShirky]

I fucking hate GST here. It's a pain.

[@кяуртіс]

***** Tell me about it. It is supposed to be 10% but hell look at the hardline pricing is $120usd for the ultimate edition yet over here it is $180. How the hell is that the $12 extra for gst is that... Even if you take in the exchange rate that should still only make it about $158 or so not $180. Our pricing is a joke, we are stuck in an era when everything used to be priced highly and was not widely available.

[@captloki13]

Yes, cause game are expensive.But I do buy games I like, like Minecraft, Grim Dawn and CS:GO. I know piracy is wrong, but with the prices of game these days it's hard to find an alternative to play game with a low budget.

[@Illier1]

captloki13 Perhaps wait for a sale? I mean seriously, you can get 50-75% most games once a season these days. Are you completely incapable of saving 30-40 dollars?

[@MrNerdCustard]

Games are extremely cheap entertainment vs other entertainment like movies, going out, drugs and so on.

[@JukaDominator]

Illier1 Try waiting when you want an Origin game, almost never happens.

[@carlosdanger9981]

wilfreezze What the fuck?

[@JukaDominator]

MrNerdCustard Video Games are the most expensive mainstream entertainment when compared to these and music, except drugs.

[@989chewey]

I have a few rules for torrenting games. Read on if you are interested. I would like to hear your guys' rules! 1. I will torrent a game if I have already bought it on consoles. Examples from the past have been Borderlands 2 (I bought the game and all DLC on PS3 before I was a PC gamer), GTA V (bought it for PS3 and PS4), and if Destiny ever comes to consoles. 2. I will torrent a game and give myself an hour to play it, sort of like a demo. Games don't really release demos nowadays, and if they do I don't trust that it represents the actual game. I will torrent a game and play it for around an hour, if I like it a lot I will buy it, if I like it a little I will wait for a steam sale, and if I don't like it I will just delete it. An example is Dying Light, I didn't have high hopes but was curious, got about 45 minutes in, I really liked it, and then bought it off steam. 3. If I'm not sure my computer can handle it. Similar to playing a demo of a game, but for a different purpose. I don't have the strongest computer in the world, and it really sucks to buy a game and find out that the port is complete shit. I bought CoD Ghosts because, like many, I thought it looked like a good game. I wanted $60 on a game that almost no one could get to run well on PC. Conclusion: As a full time college student living off federal aid and government loans, I can only afford a few full priced games a year. I want to make sure I am spending my money well. If you have the money to go out and spend $200+ on videogames a year more power to you, but I became a PC gamer so I could get many games for cheap off of steam, and if I don't want to wait for a sale at least this way I can judge a game's quality myself.

[@989chewey]

Please note that I delete the torrent if they pass 2 or 3

[@SupremeMoose]

Though I don't pirate games at all, I think these are fair reasons to pirate games. Unfortunately, most people don't pirate like this and are just dicks and criminals.

[@deep_fried_analysis]

This is a very good tip, mate! I shall try it out!

[@scottn322]

Chewey989 I bought a blue car, but then decided I wanted the exact same car, but in red. I walked onto the lot and stole it. When the cop pulled me over to arrest me, I told him I just wanted to test-drive the red one, to see if I liked it. I didn't think I needed to ask permission to test-drive it, even though I was getting the full car, and no one was with me to make sure it was just a quick demo-ride. See, I wasn't sure though if I could handle the engine, the car was pretty powerful, and I just wanted to make sure I could handle it. Look, in all reality I don't care about piracy that much, but none of your reasons hold much water, at least legally. Personally, I say pirate away, but don't try and justify it so you can feel better about it.

[@StevieGG08]

Scott N Oh stop preaching you self-righteous arse.His reasons are entirely reasonable. With the amount of shitty ports and overblown false demos shown at E3 it's no wonder we have to resort to such methods. They don't respect me, I don't respect them.

[@charlrshall]

Corrupted link was one of the most amazing things I've ever had joy of seeing, I can't wait for more.

[@minersproduct]

I LOVE THIS CHANNEL! People obviously have different preferences towards what they like and these guys are all just trying to cater towards as many people as they can. Personally I live how you guys do a variety. Its something to look forward to everyday. You never know what content they will release which keeps me coming back. Good job guys and keep on doing what u wanna do

[@AstonWave007]

I'm a console peasant, so.. no. Even if I played games on the PC, I wouldn't. I have far more respect for the gaming industry than Hollywood or the Music industry. Honestly, if I knew my purchase's funds were going to the artist, or those responsible for the TV show / movie, I'd be buying that kind of media more than just downloading it. ...I still need to buy Ori. Fuck you, Adam for making me want to buy it. :D

[@akalion213]

Well you can still pirate on a console somewhat

[@AstonWave007]

akalion213 It's far more time consuming though. Usually, it's not worth it.

[@MrNerdCustard]

It's fucking easy as to pirate on consoles...it's just as popular as it is on PC. They purchase a second console as a side machine to play pirated games on and they only have to pirate 3 games or so to make it worth it... On top of t his purchasing used games is far worse than pirating.

[@MrNerdCustard]

***** I do indeed... My family in total has 1 Xbox 4 Xbox 360s and 2 PS4s...and I have 40,000 gamer score from when I was a primary console gamer...out of the 110 console games we own I have purchased 80% of them.

[@MrNerdCustard]

***** Also what makes me an "idiot".

[@TheTrueKingJoffrey]

that moment when you pirated Ori and the Blind Forest...

[@TheTrueKingJoffrey]

The True King Joffrey but many times i end buying the games i pirate when i have the money

[@Manualatice]

Dammit Joffrey...

[@Di0nysys]

.. but you're dead

[@TheTrueKingJoffrey]

Some Dude still, there's internet in heaven

[@Di0nysys]

The True King Joffrey makes sense

[@TheOdd]

With the price point thing, I'm still confused by the fact that a lot of digital games on the Xbox One are around £55, which is £10 - £15 more than most retail games in the UK.

[@Sammysosa3]

***** They aren't cheaper, when they come out they are the same price. The price goes down alot within a year though.

[@helenaadawilson3009]

xxxxXXXXBlaze_It_420_MLG_QuickScopez_FazeXXXXxxxx When i go to game, i can get old cods from like £ 15 or £20 but on the marketplace they are £40 to £55. Its just ridiculous. Atleast older cods are kinda cheep lol.

[@MrNerdCustard]

xxxxXXXXBlaze_It_420_MLG_QuickScopez_FazeXXXXxxxx No PC games are definitely cheaper and not even counting sales. a generic multiplatform game might be only 10% cheaper on PC (they always are) on launch but a game made for PC like StarCitizen, Cites of skylines, Counter strike, Dayz, Rising storm will always be FARRR cheaper. and with sales even only being out for a couple of weeks you'll get 10%-30% off and if it's been out for more than 3 months it will be 50%90% off.

[@Sammysosa3]

MrNerdCustard I might have misunderstood the comment the other guy was saying. I was thinking that the same exact game on console is the same price as on PC when it first comes out. I guess your saying is PC exclusives are cheaper than console exclusives? if so your right but I also am we just interpreted what Aidan said differently.

[@MrNerdCustard]

xxxxXXXXBlaze_It_420_MLG_QuickScopez_FazeXXXXxxxx The same game on PC will be at LEAST 10% cheaper on launch.

[@KalebHarris]

I just figured out why I like these podcasts so much. I really enjoy getting an insight to the minds that make the content that I enjoy. I also really like to hear your responses to what the community has to say. It always seems weird to me when there is a popular content creator of any kind, and anybody can talk shit on it. But those creators don't necessarily have the opportunity to explain or defend themselves. I personally feel that you guys have a justified and legitimate reason for everything you do. Good or bad.

[@FirstSlateProductionsOfficial]

Ah, I always look forward to these podcasts. Great to listen to whilst doing homework. Keep up the fantastic content!!

[@-INK-]

Games more than 60$? The digital version of GTA V costs 69.99€ in Ireland. I really don't get this. There is no store that you need to pay to accept your game, there is no logistics cost, no cost to produce the packaging (cover + box), no cost to press the disc - why are digital games the same exact price as a physical copy? Also, why do publishers think that 60$ = 69.99€ ?

[@AndreR1994]

hahaha because they think that we shit euros. I sometimes find that a physical copy of a game is cheaper here than a digital copy (btw i live in Ireland as-well)

[@-INK-]

Fuck Yes, 90% of the physical copies in regular retailers cost about 5/10€ cheaper than in the marketplace. You'd think they would cop this on and lower the digital price to compete with the retailers or Ebay/Amazon?

[@AndreR1994]

FatherlyNick Logic, doesn't exist sometimes, like not only is the dollar weaker than the euro by what 7 cents but we pay more than them, and to make things even better for us they charge extra for the digital. Makes zero sense to me

[@rugthemunchies7840]

FatherlyNick Think yourself lucky you're a short hop across the Irish sea! The digital edition of GTA5 is currently selling for £54.99 (or €76 / $81) which actually came down from £59.99 on release! (€83 / $89)

[@-INK-]

RuG TheMunchies Ouch. I really wish they would address this.

[@piratejoel123]

Rule #1 of being a pirate: You don't tell anyone!

[@dunhillsupramk3]

Joel Svensgård Rule #2 of being a pirate: You don't tell anyone about the rules!

[@CriticalErrors]

dunhillsupramk3 Rule #3 don't tell the rules or else they will know you are a pirate! fuck

[@dunhillsupramk3]

Classified Rule #4 don't comment about piracy on KZbin...

[@Bozzyman2]

Joel Svensgård but i am a pirate you are a pirate we are a pirate "song plays"

[@SebScrobble]

In Australia They charge a lot more for some things for the sake of being imports. I have to say the price difference is redicilious. I'll use a couple of examples. In Australia the main store that people use to buy DvD's and some times games is a store called JB-Hi-Fi (if not atJB for games then EB games, but the price is roughly the same) I'll use Dragonball Z as an example as Adam mentioned it. www.jbhifi.com.au/movies-tv-shows/movies-tv-shows-on-sale/tv-anime/dragon-ball-z-remastered-uncut-season-1/185124/ The price mentioned here is $56.99 (or $43.68 US) I don't know any other store aside Walmart in America unfortunally but looking on their website, they sell the exact same DVD collection www.walmart.com/ip/Dragon-Ball-Z-Season-1-Vegeta-Saga-Uncut-Widescreen/5544391 Here is $19.96 (or $26.04 AUS) Now I know they need to make some sort of profit but come on that's almost double the price. Games are almost the same instance here. NOW I should also mention it's also a lot harder for Australians to get access to things. That is the reason Australia is the number one pirater in the world

[@mfking360]

Reywith619V2 simple reason, demand for anime is very low in AUS

[@akimboslice4229]

Reywith619V2 Not anymore. Most of our ISPs have blocked The Pirate Bay and Kickass torrents. So we can't anymore.

[@Random534]

Adam Tulk kickass.to/

[@SebScrobble]

Adam Tulk I dunno about you,I was on it this morning and it worked fine

[@Zallectra]

I just looked at EB games website and most of the new release titles are around the $80 to $100 mark here in Australia. Quite a bit of difference between what we are charged and what the UK and the US are.

[@xyttra]

Bruce is so entranced with the game that he didnt speak for half an hour

[@JohnCena-nh5eg]

Watching all the Dude Soup Podcasts from the start to make my car rides to university bearable.

[@Armoured.Goomba]

I pirate games by giving them glasses of rum and asking them to join my crew lol

[@DesignatedMarksmanRonin]

Only pirate games I own are AC: Black Flag and Rogue.

[@Slicerness]

I use pirating to play games that I wouldn't normally buy, or shit I do not under any circumstance want to support, but still need to play for whatever reason. For instance, my friends won't shut the fuck up about Xenoverse, so a generous friend named Nos Team is going to get the game for me. Likewise, I wasn't interested at all in Dead Island: Riptide, but sheer masochistic curiosity had me needing to know just how shit it was in comparison to the first trainwreck. Walking Dead: Survival Instinct was another one. The fact that Riptide was actually fun in it's own way meant I was seriously tempted to buy it, but didn't quite reach that point.

[@MrSticks2190]

Sounds to me like you're trying to justify your piracy. Everyone has their own opinion, and I'm not trying to start anything, but you and I will just have to agree to disagree. My opinion (not that you asked) is that your curiosity of, "How bad is this game?" or ",I guess I should try it because my friends like it," doesn't make it okay to steal it. To make an analogy, if I was curious about a car I couldn't just steal the keys or hotwire it and drive it around to see if it handled well and had good gas mileage and then just keep it. I would have to take a test drive (much like playing a game demo), talk to the dealer and other car owners (like looking at reviews or forums or asking friends) or just purchase the vehicle and live with that decision (whether it turned out to be good or bad). And once you've got the pirated copy, the only time somebody would buy a legit copy after is if they really, REALLY want to support the developer. Most people go, "Yeah, I could do that because they made a good game, but I already have the game since I pirated it, so ehh...fuck it."

[@kaszilla]

Mr. Sticks see where you come from, but comparing a car with a game ? pirating is not really stealing, its sharing a game with a million others, for free, if i give a game to somebody for free does that mean they stole it ? i mean its not that the big companies, will eat less for it.... if its a tiny developer i say support him, and i know alot of pirateers donate to the little guy to make sure they keep making games, but for the big guys? those money wolves who charges 70 bucks for a game just for you to pay another 20 bucks every other month so you can actually complete the story ? oh and dont forget about those microtransactions... naah pirate them, make sure they feel it in their pockets, so that they know that that is not the way forward... because if we wont draw a line, where will it end ?

[@MrSticks2190]

I was just using the car thing as an analogy, I know a car is a much more expensive item than a video game, but it was the first thing that came to mind. And I can understand protesting against money-hungry practices like day one DLC and micro-transactions and such by denying a developer profit on their game, but not everybody who pirates has this Robin Hood mentality of steal from the rich, give to the poor (And even if they all did, does that make it okay? That is where a lot of people are divided). Most just pirate because they are on a platform where they can do so fairly easily and save money by doing it. Finally, does pirating the game actually send the message of, "I'm not paying for this because your practices are shitty?" I feel like with some developers it might, but with others they may think, "Oh, well they must like the game because they went to the effort of downloading a pirated copy." I guess it all depends on perspective.

[@RingoFreakingStarr]

Playing games is a privilege, not a right so to pirate games without the intent to buy them in my book makes you a piece of shit. You know those devs that slaved many man hours to finish that game? Well since you went ahead and enjoyed their game for free, the higher ups are going to have to cut costs because even though they didn't have anything "stolen", they lost a potential sale. So someone is going to get cut or worse there will be wide salary cuts. I just cannot fathom how people justify pirating games. It is so fucking wrong morally and thanks to copyright laws also heavily illegal. I hope one day you make something you are really proud of and gets taken from you right under your nose.

[@KingNefiiria]

I don't have that same "need" to play a game. When a game comes out that interests me, if I can afford it, and if I think the price matches what the publisher has promised, I'll buy it. Otherwise I'll put it on my wishlist and wait for a sale, or occasionally check back with the site during major holidays to see the sale. I don't pirate games, and I don't feel the need to if a game comes out that I like, even if the publishers are scum. My decision to not purchase a game published under them will not even register on their "we-lost-a-sale-o-meter." So with that in mind, if a game comes out that I like, regardless of who it's published under, I'll buy it if the price matches what I've seen. If not, I'll wait for a sale. Simple as that.

[@kylemiller208]

Do what you do funhaus, I love when you branch out and try new things. It might not all work but that's how you grow your channel. I love you guys keep it up. Question, can you guys try to do fan art of each other. Like maybe you all draw spoole

[@Bannon04]

haha omg when bruce kept falling in the water, those reactions...so good.

[@rangel5897]

Adam looks like Obi Wan Kenobi!!!!!!

[@TheCreed97]

Do I pirate games? Hell yes, as a uni student I don't have the funds to buy ever game I want, sure you could argue that that's just life and you'd be right. But I also buy a lot of games, I pirated mainly to try games I'm not sure if I will enjoy or they are on the shorter side. If I like a game ill buy it, COD:AW I bought, Bf4 i bought it, all the AC's I bought them, telltale games I bought, the list goes on. I understand that pirating is a dick move and it is really bad for indie games but I'd much rather be a dick and try a game than spend $100 every year on indie games that I don't enjoy because the subject matter isn't my thing. In terms of prices in Australia they are quite expensive but we do earn more so its not too bad but to play 50% of AAA games of the year its near impossible. I do have to say if I've ever pirated a game and not bought it and it comes up on a steam sale ill get it, if I hadn't pirated it, i wouldn't have bought it. TL;DR I pirate games Im unsure about and buy games I know Ill like or have tried. Steam sales=easy sales.

[@sandromnator]

It's alright to pirate game just to try it out, like a long demo....but the people who just pirate the games, enjoy it, complete the games and never buy it....Those are the dick heads.

[@mk46HD2]

I am in the exact same boat as you mate

[@KorupTxxx]

sandromnator Thats a stupid as shit reason. If you are unsure either watch a streamer play it, play it at a friends house or wait til its cheaper.

[@TheCreed97]

I agree with you but watching people in my opinion doesn't give you a fool proof answer. Perfect example, I watched a lot of cod:aw before I bought it, it looked like a tonne of fun but when I bought it I hated it, it was complete bollocks. Same with ghosts, battle block, magika, Gta iv(more of a port problem). I do agree though if I pirate a game it doesn't mean I'm going to buy if I enjoy it but it gives me a far better idea of the game. I wouldn't pirate if demos were still a thing.

[@RingoFreakingStarr]

Playing games is a privilege, not a right. Please do not even attempt to justify pirating games due to your lack of funds. I like how you do end up buying some of the games you pirate but in my book you should financially compensate devs from all the games you pirate.

[@BargMonster]

I'm 18 and I have never pirated any type of media, I find that I put myself in the shoes of the developer or publisher who I'm 'taking' money from if I were to pirate. Buying everything legally also makes me feel morally good and also gives me a feeling of 'ownership' of said product.

[@thebarrelmaster12]

Thanks guys! Im really Sick and your videos always makes me cheer up, when im im pain and cant sleep i always listen to your podcasts. Love you guys

[@Glxdiatorr]

I'm loving the corrupted rom vid's!!! I love them!

[@BlueBetaPro]

I pirated games when I was under 15 and didn't have any money of my own.

[@arcadius2569]

Well neither did the starving man who stole bread, or the poor man who mugs others.

[@SuperMewio]

I own 178 games on steam.

[@SuperMewio]

***** Dem sales man. Last winter I go Super Meat Boy for pocket change.

[@tommoffitt7970]

Lucky, I only have 16 games and most of them being free to play. I hate being poor.

[@SuperMewio]

Tom Moffitt I got a lot of my games from kind friends, selling cards, giveaways, and sales. Mostly sales.

[@KrayzieLuck]

TailsTheGamer And I bet you only played a dozen of those? Like me... Orz

[@gavrilapolovinkin3682]

Tom Moffitt humble bundle ;) It's partly why I have 230 games

[@PaladinNull]

does dude soup have an audio only version off of youtube? I would love to listen on my phone but the youtube app cuts out audio when I lock my phone.

[@vivpunk1258]

just set display settings to never sleep

[@PaladinNull]

Barrel Humper42 I have tried that and while it kinda works, youtube uses much more data and much more battery life than a simple audio podcast. I was specifically looking for a non video version of the podcast.

[@vivpunk1258]

Paladin Null i think they have.not sure thou

[@maximetaylor4004]

You can subscribe to 'Dude Soup' in the podcasts app for apple devices, or download episodes one at a time, all for free. Podcasts are usually up on the app a couple of days after they're uploaded to KZbin.

[@zachharrelson9971]

Paladin Null i think you can download it off of that youtube mp3 website. try that if it works

[@gregbrent2357]

I have endless appreciation for your production of actual original content. Keep testing things on your audience. Without your creativity youtube would truly be hell.

[@geraldw449]

56:49 Adam: " its so tiny, can't make it" that is the funniest voice ive heard adam has made

[@thepeps101]

No i don't. I can wait for reviews and steam sales. I'm not 12.

[@vivpunk1258]

most of the pirates are 12

[@lotohooman8512]

you´re not 12?

[@lotohooman8512]

go back to school kid !

[@shadowro7]

most 12 year olds dont know anything about pirating, game cracks or anything like that...

[@thepeps101]

hooman arabzadeh I'm 19.

[@Turboslang]

Get this.. GTA IV is 50 euros and my mountley earning is 150. I live in Serbia.. and there is shitload of countries where this is the situation and most pirates are from countries like this.. I bought only 3 games ever.. SpaceEngineers, C&C Generals Tiberium Wars and Cossacks. I have I5 2500k and gtx760.. i have that thanks to my aunts from other countries that give me around 100 euros a year so i menaged to save for pc, all my friends including my mom thinks i am crazy for paying ~12 euros for Space Engineers..

[@PENGUlN124]

not liking the price of a game doesnt justify stealing it.

[@ElvenMans]

+PENGUlN124 nobody stole anything, there are a lot of places where the salary is very low compared to the prices of these things.

[@PENGUlN124]

ElvenMr yes... they did steal it. and i dont care how low your salary is. that does not justify theft.

[@supercholo64]

Probably not a power thing. It's just a matter of why pay when you can get it for free? Money is hard to come by, save it way possible.

[@dedbit6723]

The balloon art is just amazing!

[@seanblvt]

That pixelated gif of Bruce is very reminiscent of the Kinda Funny intro art style of not virtually identical. Which I'm not complaining about since you guys and the group at Kinda Funny are my favorite channels

[@Ricky-me6pp]

I pirate EA games only

[@xlonewolfx999]

I'm a student, I don't have the money and I pirate stuff. Alot. When I get a job, I'll still pirate but will pay if I like that stuff... And if we pirates don't exist, then the fame of all those games won't exist. Want to completely eradicate piracy? Go Ahead! Fine we won't play games anymore! Guess what? I could never ever recommend a game to capable friend who would've bought the game. It is estimated that 40-80%(depending upon the countries) PC gamers are pirates and most of them are students. Hmm..... Losing 40-80% of audience... Bad for indirect marketing.

[@PENGUlN124]

thats complete and utter bullshit...

[@xlonewolfx999]

PENGUlN124 Bullshits, fucks and shits. Anything more reasonable to reply?

[@TheChernarusDiaries]

you think they'll be upset that you're not playing their games because they figured out a way to prevent piracy even though you were never buying the games in the first place? Your logic is rock solid.

[@Omgimsocool413]

So if you and your friends don't like a game, no one will know about it? What?

[@xlonewolfx999]

TheChernarusDiaries Brian Bonn I'm talking about exposure a game gets coz of players. For instance if I play a game and I like it then I recommend it to others. And suppose if there is "ban" on piracy then, I could never play the game neither I'd be in a position to recommend it to someone. And that someone would've actually bought the game... TheChernarusDiaries Yes, my logic is rock solid. It just takes a rockless brains to understand them :)

[@louis922]

well, i'm 13 years old, and its either i pirate the game, or im never going to play it.

[@banundrum2213]

same.exact.story.

[@porcupinebutter]

+Learn Quick with that logic, you should also go to a car dealership and steal the most expensive car XD Go get a job and give the game developers your well earned money for the product they've lost a plethora of nights sleep over.

[@banundrum2213]

Ryan Enzler you just do not understand man

[@porcupinebutter]

+Pixel Knife Oh no I do understand. When I was 13 I worked my ass off mowing lawns, running a paper rout, and doing chores for neighbors to buy an N64. I get it that this world is much different now and you can steal anything off the internet, but it's up to you to make moral decisions.

[@banundrum2213]

Ryan Enzler I have No way of making any money until summer

[@ErikZer0FX]

I don't think I've ever seen the group so enthralled with the gameplay before them. Like mouth open type staring. I need to get that game.

[@AdnanAhmed]

This is the longest video I've ever watched on KZbin - was worth it.

[@snowdjagha]

I pirate pc games, whenever I can. Because I'm fucking broke! I have a shitty ass pc that can only run certain titles, so I won't buy a game for 20€ (on Steam, for example) that I can't play.

[@SupremeMoose]

So you'll download the game illegally and not play it?

[@snowdjagha]

SupremeMoose What?

[@Hallelujahmkay]

Then you shouldn't be playing the games. You won't steal a jacket just because you can't afford it, same thing.

[@welp3768]

PIRATING IS NOT STEALING !! :D

[@lukeperryglover]

Ricardo Revilloud yes it is.

[@0xscoopta]

I am unbelievably excited for your guys' heists videos

[@CityBreakdancerMan]

I really love the IT Crowd/ UK you wouldn't steal bit in the description. and the podcast, that was cool too.

[@hardcorepants]

I absolutely love Funhaus. These guys are so hilarious. I never really knew about them when they were IG. So I went back to look at their IG channel and they produce really funny content and they are consistent with this Funhaus channel. Keep doing what you're doing because it's working.

[@dewlover4sure]

this is the only podcast I ever watch and I love it!

[@spydth]

In regards to the N 64 videos I thought they were awesome because it was something different from what you usually play. I love broken games but the main reason I watch your videos is because of the material you guys add in. I've watched your videos for the last couple of years and one of the best parts of my day is coming home and watching your daily video. Thanks for all the awesome videos!

[@CJDAM]

you guys are the best "Adam has James' eyelids so James can never blink and Adam is always blinking"

[@SarahWeisters]

Adam: You have to get a BenQ monitor .... I was thinking that sounded familiar when my eyes drifted down and settled on the "BenQ" written on my monitor XD

[@afreshpepper4266]

I don't really care what you guys do. It's your channel so do what you need to do. You know what you're doing, and I enjoy watching you guys.

[@Apoch86]

Funhaus Seriously.. Your corrupted series has made me laugh VERY heartily, for an extended period of time. I absolutely LOVED Corrupted, and I would like to see some more of it. It doesn't have to be a full on series every week, but a special side serving of it would be wonderful.

[@MrtheInfection]

Please don't stop the glitches game gameplays. I'm my opinion, those videos are some of the funniest content you guys have produced in a while and I think most of your content is A grade hilarious.

[@tonton9598]

I used to pirate games alot, but now, the latest one i pirated was probably borderlands the presequel. I stopped pirating games because i wanted to play multiplayer and have a not buggy game, and most of all. It's really satisfying to be seeing your games in your steam account which keeps track of how long you played, achievements, cloud saves, etc.

[@FilleIsDaMan]

Can't wait for some heist vids from these lads.

[@graysonfaircloth6471]

Watching lonk teleporting across the screen in a DBZ fashion was the hardest ive laughed in weeks; i would completely support more corrupted videos if you are willing to capture the footage. If nothing else, simply make the videos you want to make and the true fans will flock

[@TrafficMan7]

There aren't much demos around today so pirating isn't so bad when the game eventually goes on sale.

[@JamBear]

I have never laughed so hard on a consistent basis. Thanks guys :D

[@SCFick318]

Coming back to this and realizing that my fav channel played my fav game of 2015 on my birthday. How tf did I miss this.

[@charlieharper5959]

I dont actually own gta 5, but even just watching the first heist on youtube was totally exciting, it's like being given a rough outline of the plot of a movie, but then you get to experience the movie in your own way.

[@JoelGreene]

I'm a true long lasting fan Funhaus. I watch all their videos till the ends and own the Funhaus shirt......also the intro, outro for the Podcast is awesome.

[@MrAlix666]

I used to pirate games because I had no income, but now that I get a paycheck I actually bought just about all the games I pirated even though I rarely play them... I had a good experience so I wanted to support the ones that gave me the experience.

[@JD941018]

On the subject of liking/disliking Funhaus videos: I have loved these guys since their previous endeavour, and I have liked 98% of their videos. Since Funhaus started I have watched every video, and of all of them so far, I haven't enjoyed the GTA gameplays, that is nothing against the content because I have laughed at some stuff, but it's because of my distaste towards the game. I keep up to date with all of the videos and when I see a GTA video, I will immediately look forward to the next video because I'm not getting my Funhaus fix. I literally live for each video. So to everyone hating on certain videos or anything, just watch and get excited about everything else.

[@jmac4200]

Pretty new to the Funhaus/other channel that never existed, but one of the main reason these guys are so awesome is how much they keep the fans/community informed. Good job guys, I look forward to killing at least 10 minuets at work everyday thanks to you guys. ......Shapoopie!!

[@BelimaiSykes]

As a person who pirates I can say for AAA games the answer to pirating is simple. Have either really good online content and or mod support. Those are two things you can't do with a pirated game. I buy a lot of games because I'm a competitive gamer. In the case of games like skyrim I buy because of mod support, in my particular case mod support to make the game harder. Games that make me want to pirate them are titles that gate off a lot of content with DLC or pre-order exclusives. Especially pre order content exclusive to different retailers. A pirated version includes all DLC and pre-order content. It's simply less hassle to not pay for those games.

[@benkirkwood43]

Been a fan for many years and I don't know how anyone could hate a video that includes these guys?!! They are so entertaining and funny. Haven't seen a bad/unfunny video of them yet...GO FUNHAUS!! :D

[@jordonpabingwit]

I actually love the corrupted series. I laughed so hard with the corrupted Zelda my coworker had to ask if I was ok. I would love to see you guys make more.

[@forteetugames]

100% agree that piracy is a substantial issue of access ... the easier content is to access and the more reasonably priced something is, the less it will be pirated

[@blackybear2946]

I love the demo series please never stop until you run out of demos!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! EVERYONE LIKE

[@Ipnk176]

The pricing concept that is mention is called at 9.50 is referred to at skim pricing, if anyone was interested

[@motoxmetal]

yep, broken n64 hacks vids are awesome, love em' and we need more... maybe conkers, banjo & DK. gr8 work guys.

[@TheManTheMythD]

I think the corrupted rom series should continue. I would like to see them keep doing it.

[@loneriderxv]

Funhaus I really enjoy your co-op videos! please do more. I hope people watch them a lot because they are awesome!

[@MrThePixeler]

I have a self rule on pirating games: as long as the game is around 20 years old I'll pirate it. I know that nintendo has virtual console but the games are ridiculously over-priced. I never pirate games that are really cheap on steam, this is only because I like the achievements. Anyway, great podcast, love the content of the new channel.

[@Noxyba]

I pay for about 95% of what I actually play. If I pirate anything at all, it's usually because I have no practical legitimate avenue through which to purchase it (or the game is so old that original developers completely disbanded and the money is just going to someone squatting on the property). If it's worth your time, it's almost definitely worth your money as well. I know I've seen too many good people go under because an otherwise great product flopped financially, so I've done my best to vote with my wallet whenever I can. Piracy as a form of consumer protest is an interesting concept but rarely pans out, I think. There are so many different reasons to pirate--lack of options, lack of money, straight-up greed--and publishers tend to label all pirates with the same brush anyway: content thieves who want something but don't want to pay money for it. If you really want to send a message about a business practice you don't like, or a franchise you don't like, or a publisher you don't like, you send a much stronger and less ambiguous message by not playing the game or that publisher's catalog at all. If you knew about a game and didn't play it, it says pretty unequivocally that you just didn't care enough. You couldn't even be assed. And publishers tend to take that feedback much more seriously than anything pirates say just because they tend to view pirates as distrustworthy to begin with.

[@jordanmarcella6432]

I'm a big fan of all of the videos you guys make! Can't wait for the drunk borne videos!

[@MiriQLMovies]

Instruction manuals are still being requested. This applies to mobile phones too. We have instruction manuals online, a troubleshooter online and the manual is INSIDE the phone as an app, and people still want the hard copy.

[@jurmeeuwsfilm]

Eh, I don't particularly like the corrupted games, but then again, I find it hilarious when Bruce freaks out and destroys the demo discs.

[@nckinder7]

I think the corrupted series is great because it gives all of them a lot of "material" to make jokes with

[@ElliotPuddle]

What Laurence is talking about at 10:00 is exactly the way I think and my approach to buying games on steam.

[@RadialNULLXIII]

Man, I'm sorry to hear that people didn't like the Corrupted series of videos. Personally, I found them hilarious but I understand why people might not enjoy them or find them funny. With that, I don't know if you should stop doing this series just because a few people speak out loudly amidst the people that enjoyed and don't speak out at all. As someone that has seen and loved every single one of your videos (here and at IG), I love seeing you guys branch out. Even if I look at the title and thumbnail and am immediately confused, I'm still excited! I feel like you guys have said this before but it's your work, your art and if a few people don't appreciate it that shouldn't stop you from making something you enjoy making. And if they don't like a series, they don't have to watch it. That aside, love you guys. Keep up the good work!

[@Eivs75bkvh6]

Just to note on the corrupted game series. I consider myself a Funhaus fan, a huge fan tbh, I watch EVERY video and sometimes I watch them multiple times when there is nothing new to watch. This included the corrupted game series which I watched as well. However, it was not my favorite, I don't care much for old corrupted games but don't get me wrong. I will watch just about ANY video uploaded because I care much more about the Funhaus crew than the content. Yes, the content is important and I like to watch content I like as well as new content but as long as the Funhaus crew is in the video I WILL WATCH IT... and there is nothing the government or "lovely" people on KZbin can do to stop me.

[@DragosReloaded7]

best discussion on the gaming industry in the media industry

[@dca42895]

I read the title too quickly and having watched you guys for some time i actually thought this would be about pirate themed games

[@TheColossus101]

I did not realize that prior to Funhaus you guy were on Inside Gaming I enjoy your videos. I was crying when I watched the Sniper Elite Ball Shots vids. Thank you for the content.

[@MrZeroKage]

I've been watch you guys back from the old days of dead pixel and halo stuff and I can say there is stuff I've liked and stuff I didn't but I've never stopped watch you guys. Not every video can be a winner keep doing what your doing you guys are great and the reson I started streaming and doing lets plays myself. also I loved the N64 rom videos.

[@YThates]

That description brings back haunting memories. xD