Mega Man Legends 2 Retrospective

[@fuzzyslippersyt]

Thanks for a year on KZbin guys! Hope you'll continue to support me as I work on more videos!

[@davemarx7856]

Lol. Oops. I just commented on the other video about the "cell-shading". I'm guessing you must have gotten that alot. It really was just genius use of textures and lighting.

[@manuelmonarrez359]

Now hear me out here, these games are magical. Now imagine these games remade in a style, similar to that of breath of the wild or tears of the kingdom.

[@jinada27]

I miss the Megaman Legends Series. There a lot of story plots and lore still untouched... Its sad...

[@andrewleyton6689]

A lot of the Games feel like that if you see their last games

[@jayemerengueli]

I'm just sad that humanity died.

[@vivid8979]

Alot of gamers have their first taste of gamer rage from the souls game.. Sera and her 2nd form gave me that, since it can be frustratingly hard but that makes clearin the game more satisfying.. God I wish this series can get a comeback....

[@alexanderdegtyarev1675]

Thanks for the nostalgia trip. 22 years and counting!

[@NeoakiraIV]

No that’s not true that’s impossible it’s been 12 😢😢

[@GenMars]

53:53 that right there is a good representation of capcom trying to figure out how to continue the story

[@Amuro1X]

22:07 "Little leech things." They're tadpoles! You're fighting a frog, lol

[@chewbacachunks8644]

MegaMan's armor and his normal looking human body, are both his actual body. He can easily swap out his human body for a robotic one. They appear human, but can easily fuse themselves with robotic parts. They can even completely replace their whole bodies if they want. It is stated by an npc in the 1st game that fusing with robotics is so normal that getting surgery or going to the mechanic is basically considered the same thing. Carbons are the realised dream of Thomas from ZX Advent, as it was his dream to create a being that was a fusion of human and reploid.

[@glenngriffon8032]

I don't remember an NPC saying that. Who was it? Where? At what point in the game do they say that?

[@chewbacachunks8644]

@@glenngriffon8032 I don't remember exactly right now. But I believe it is the mechanic lady in the shopping center area. Also there is a MegaMan lore expert on KZbin that goes over everything in the series, he is quite thorough and I learned that from him. I think his channel is called reploidrevo or something. Ok damn. I got curious and I looked up that reploidrevo channel to see his uploads, and all I got in the search bar was reploidrevo controversy. Turns out I guess he got outed for a bunch of stuff a few months ago. Bunch of allegations from grooming, cheating, sexual assault, and some other stuff too. Wild, I had no idea. That and his channel is terminated now. Damn, why can't KZbinrs just be normal.

[@supersalad9801]

Man, I loved this game. 1) I completed the 100 question quiz. Wrote down every question as they came and all the answers in the notebook. Noted all the correct and wrong answers as I figured them out. Took a long time for me complete that. 2) Both in this game and the first, those sniper-joe reverbots can have their shields knocked out of their hands. The drill is one of the weapons that can do this. 3) The "leech-like things" at the bottom of the frog boss were tadpoles! The theming! 4) With those low, crawly reaverbots that need to be flipped to take damage, you can just pick them up with the lifter and throw them at each other. This usually kills the one thrown in one hit. 5) I think I remember with the reaverbots hiding in the ground that grab you, in the short window before they attack, you can roll out of the suction if you dodge left or right fast enough.

[@LordMetalSonic1987]

Aberrant Units were called "Irregulars" (the same term used for Mavericks in the X series and beyond) in the Japanese version of the Legends games. Purifier Units, I believe, were called "Irregular Hunters".

[@santibelmondo5480]

15 years of experience let you do extremely well against Sera. Know every counterplay there is, and still, I understand how easy it can be for others.

[@calebgrant2652]

The "GEE, I hope he's okay!" after dropping Bon in the lava gets me every frigging time.

[@cgRui34]

I wasn't able to finish the first game as a kid, but I was able to finish this one. All I can say is, that this was one of the most influential video games that I grew up with. The question of whether to revive a perfect, utopian world such as Elysium or preserve the imperfect, but adequate living conditions on Terra has always stuck with me since then. This game ingrained in me at such a young age that experiencing pain, hunger, suffering also meant that you will be able appreciate the feeling of comfort, happiness, and contentment in life. Feelings that The Master had became desensitized to until he went down to Terra with Trigger and observed how the Carbons were able to live their lives there. Pretty underrated game for its time. I really hope Capcom revives this franchise, I need my closure :(

[@silentecho92able]

Same considering Capcom has been making remakes these last few years with the success of the RE franchise an the recent release of RE4 remake. They should at least give the Legends series another go with updated graphic, gameplay, and add stuff into the game. Call it "Mega man Legends Reborn" a remake too the original. Essentially remake the first 2 games, and expand on the lore a bit more, before they give us the promised legends 3.

[@espelhodasconstelacoes]

Wonderful analysis friend, God bless :)

[@nestormeza4895]

"The bullshit laser attack" 🤣🤣🤣 I feel you on this tho

[@Thor-Orion]

Tron is right on that tsundere line, where she COULD definitely be a tsundere, but she might not be…

[@MikeyBro5728]

Still waiting in 2023... Thanks for the retrospective it was awesome 😎

[@zeableunam]

8:30 You know I never even noticed till now that; he was out of his Armor in this game, & yeah i always thought it was part of his body😅..!😳 Makes sense though: ever since ZX i believe it's about humans turning into robots, which is the series before Legends/Dash.😮

[@matthewhealy4752]

Megaman Legends was one of the best undiscovered secrets I never expected in games I found this game and was immediately in love with it!

[@taecampus]

Great review! Such an underrated gem of a series imo. Maybe if Capcom ever decided to do a Megaman Legends Legacy collection or even a remake collection similar to the Crash and Spyro remakes, we make get a conclusion to this series. Who knows?

[@lightbearingpharoah]

So funny how the bonnes tried to be good but went back to being pirates such a charming game

[@FamousWolfe]

For clarification, the Parabola Gun that they use to fend off Glyde's flagship attack was actually purposefully sabotaged by an inside agent as part of Glyde's attack strategy. I forget who exactly but one of the miners drops hints about the sabotage however unless you're closely paying attention it's easy to miss that detail. Excellent video mate, I played countless hours of both Mega Man Legends 1 & 2 so this was a very nice trip down memory lane!

[@GlerpidyGlarson]

They need to make the third game. It's been 87 years Carl we need this. We love this. DAMN IT CAPCOM MAKE THE THIRD GAME

[@bolttracks]

I love how the story ended up very similar to Horizon Zero Dawn. This game is still my absolute favorite because the plot, despite of how much further it could've gone, had me absolutely flabbergasted as a kid. Still replaying both games every couple of years for nostalgia.

[@samfivedot]

I always had this crackpot theory as a kid that The Master was actually Zero. Unfortunately the Zero series deconfirmed that pretty hard

[@fuzzyslippersyt]

I feel like you weren't the only one as ZX fueled it with Girouette looking like the master too.

[@cgRui34]

I think in one of the endings of Megaman X5 or X6 (it's been very long since I've played the games) there was one ending where X was dreaming/talking to someone wanting to build "Elysium". This might confirm that the Legends series happens in the distant future of the X timeline.

[@versebuchanan512]

@@cgRui34 That is canon, yes. MM, MMX, Z, and ZX are all in the distant past of the Legends timeline.

[@JEL625]

Joe going away was a retcon. Joe was supposed to succumb to his wounds but they changed it to him going to warmer climate to help his wounds heal.

[@myanimeroom9350]

"Monkeys are incapable of using ovens." That really slayed me hard, ya know? Thanks for sharing your review. I never owned MML2 and I plan on buying it, together with TMAOTB some time this year on PSN when I save up enough moolah.

[@fuzzyslippersyt]

Glad you liked the review! Definetly get them! Absolutely amazing games!

[@chrisj320ac3]

Hol' up, legends is on psn?

[@paulman34340]

I'm going to assume Yuna was unaware of many things! Such as I think "Banner's" amnesia was caused by Yuna to avoid having to "Get rid of him" since she's using Matilda's body! But Yuna's unaware they are a couple or they have a daughter! Barrell is likely not saying anything till he's sure or well. It feels like the Banner and Matilda Plotline was dropped for the sake of resolving it in MML3 which as we know "got canceled and may never see the light of day!" (Damn you Capcom!) Honestly I do hate when plot threads like that are "saved for a sequel that may never come" put that one right up with Trigger/Volnett indefinite stay on the moon! But yet nice "teasing something that may never get resolved" (and sadly NEVER WILL BE sans fanfic writers LOL)

[@joeyvillaceran6204]

I remember memorizing the mayor's quiz as a kid. The secret I did was the quiz has a set of questions that will be on the same order. You just need to remember 1-5 questions to know the order. And try to use that format till you memorize it one by one. Since internet were not available on that time. I tried memorizing it till I got it till 100th.

[@kaleknelson8429]

The actual art style used is shadeless which isn't as sophistocated as cell shading, but is much easier to render deos mean you have to manually ad shadows The style is actually much easier on the hardwear.

[@LivingGuy484]

Megaman Legends 2 was a part of my childhood. I really wish they gave us the sequel

[@kdawg2869]

I don't normally comment on KZbin, but you really deserve more credit than you're getting. 402 subscribers is absurd for how clean and informative your content is. I think it's great that you're still making videos despite not getting a ton of views, it shows you really love what you do. Keep doing what you're doing and trying to improve. I hope your channel explodes soon and you get the recognition you deserve.

[@fuzzyslippersyt]

Thank you! I really appreciate it! I haven't quite found my KZbin "voice" if you get what I mean, but a comment like this makes me feel that I'm coming off as genuine and people are enjoying my videos.

[@siralexander3359]

One year later he has 13K :)

[@Omniterra88]

Yeah, I also do not normally comment, but I am happy to see how much this channel has grown. If anyone deserves it, you do, Fuzzyslippers.

[@toresso819]

I feel like playing this Megaman Series all over again!! Thank you for this vid, man! Keep doing what you do!

[@BossJ03L]

I just found your channel and really enjoying your Mega man Legends videos! Keep doing what you love my friend!

[@orangesoda4535]

1:17 Me when I realize that the pirate alliance is Bonne and Glyde.

[@TheCrawl]

I haven't finished the full video yet, but I can't help it, I'm commenting early to say I'm super impressed by your content. I discovered your channel a couple days after seeing your MML review, now I'm making my way through the rest of your videos. Subbed and excited to see more!

[@fuzzyslippersyt]

Thank you so much! That means alot!!

[@Barkerbg001]

Great video I really hope we get a legends legacy collection

[@fuzzyslippersyt]

Fingers crossed, I'll take a digital only port even.

[@Leon-wf3xf]

@@fuzzyslippersyt Agreed! Man a physical copy tho! Wouldn’t that be awesome! Nice channel btw! Misadventures of Tron Bonne I’m hoping will be coming at some point!?

[@jonahsimon1253]

PSA: The reaverbots in Saul Kada ruins can be avoided, and do have a tell. There are lines that appear on the ground on either side of megaman before it clamps you, giving you just enough time to either jump out of the way (note that jumping straight up and landing in the same spot will still get you caught) or preferably preforming a roll to get out of the way.

[@benjamindeh873]

53:57 OMFG you made me spit out my tea! Best laugh I've had the last couple days X) Thanks. I also loved the video overall. It really made me want to play both legends games again. The trons were so funny and cool semi-villains.

[@FrozenBox]

Thank you for this video! Makes me want to go back to Megaman Legends. Plus you helped me discovered Duckstation! That looks better than what I used.

[@adtsiriusstarr112]

doomsday story in a cheerful presentation. rockman dash series my fave game!

[@williambenitez344]

Glad you continued with the channel always enjoy watching your content

[@davidwintterle1331]

You make great videos! I know you put a lot of hard work in them. Really appreciate it.

[@sasha1mama]

Actually, no. If you look at how the joints of Rock's combat suit operate, along with their dimensions, they don't support the notion that it's just a suit. That's a whole other body. The humanlike one he has in the opening cutscene would therefore have to be a secondary Reploid body which I assume his head and neck detach from and socket into. This is kind of supported by the lore surrounding Carbons being not merely human, but a sort of human-Reploid hybrid whose cybernetic physiology allows them to modularize themselves using mechanical attachments they can swap on and off. It's why you see Tiesel looking very obviously cybernetic in one scene and totally human in another. Because I'm a NERD! XP 14:47 No points for guessing where the idea for Grineer Thumpers came from.

[@kingmasterlord]

8:13 the Motherload was in the Main Gate, the Bonnes took it.

[@ice00monster]

This was my favorite game though I don't really have time to play it again. Thanks for running it again for me

[@LEXICON-DEVIL]

21:55 Interesting. Seems like they also designed the boss and environment in a way to compensate for not having a better targeting system.

[@kenneth9343]

I love this game it was the very first game that I played way back.

[@PiLipOppa]

38:46 WOW a 2nd one fell and blew up before the hole covered up I guess to reset it! That's new to me

[@TagartTalking]

This is my 4th time watching these videos. You deserve more subs. Keep at it, for our sakes!

[@JamaalBreezy]

Yeah im a fool too hopefully we'll get some type of legends 3

[@derekhibbard9018]

Wow just stumbled across this channel holy shit can’t wait to see it blow up

[@StrawHalo44]

If KZbin let's it

[@RedMageGaming]

The quiz is obnoxious too because along with the seemingly random crap you’re not likely to know, some of the answers the game needs to pass the quiz are factually incorrect.

[@bolttracks]

One thing I always wondered was wether Glide's base was built around a crash landed EDEN unit as the texture and shape are almost identical to the one seen at the end of Legends 1

[@Mateoski97]

Also, Metroid Dread was brought back from the dead, Legends 3 could as well.

[@CyanDumBell_MC]

I do hope we get a some sort of remake/reboot of this game just to polish up the story

[@franklinventura8810]

Tuned in to the premiere at "once our megaboy has become a megaman" and lost it

[@advmx3]

Ironically the second major ruin, the underwater one, should NOT have that much slow down, it seems that's a bug on the PS1 version and it was fixed on the PSP version of the game (which is only in Japanese). But just watching people playing it without the slow down makes you feel jealous af.

[@keyblader1985]

How did a bug like that even make it to the final product??

[@cgRui34]

I hated the Nino Island ruins, but at the same time the sheer difficulty of it because of the movement speed is what made it unique and frustratingly memorable in my opinion. It was deep, dreadful, and dangerous which I imagined what a Ruin in that universe should have felt like for the people there.

[@hypin]

theres a patch that fixes it now alongside the roll shop prices from the port!

[@RuriSkyPrince]

I wish Capcom would bring this game back :(

[@mercuryjk7000]

Unpopular opinion but I liked the first one more, couldn't even finish 2

[@fuzzyslippersyt]

I still prefer the first over the second too, don’t hate the sequel, but the first my childhood game

[@lukasrobynson4971]

thanks for sharing your process with us - keep making videos!

[@markula_4040]

I feel the only shot of a 3rd game is if they bother to re-release the 1st 2 in a collection with quality of life changes and it sells well. Of course I would welcome it because I find PS1 era 3D games impossible to go back to as the control style is just too outdated (for me). Even modifying controls in an emulator, I just can't get it to control in a way I can tolerate.

[@pppen]

Not disagreeing with your video, but I love the Megaman/Rockman lore (lol) and wanted to throw in my 2 cents. My understanding, from both Legends 1 and 2, is that the original humans all left Earth sometime in the future (after some worldwide cataclysm - I'm guessing the same event that caused all/most of the Earth to be flooded). I also believe the original humans are now referred to as enlightened (perfected???) humans. I believe Megaman Juno (in Legends 1) tells Megaman Trigger that all humans went to live in Elysium (the spaceship we visit in Legends 2) and the Carbons (fake/manufactured humans on Earth) are basically on Earth to "keep the Earth warm" until the original humans are ready to return. Megaman Juno was the bureaucracy unit while Megaman Trigger was the... trigger unit to start an event to kill all Carbons to make room for the original humans. It seems like the Carbons are - for all intents and purposes - human in a sense that they need to reproduce, get injured, eat, etc - except they can also remove body parts and replace them with robot parts and kinda be all robotic (lol). Maybe they were reploids that evolved (again, lol)? Evolved reploids kinda matches the overall Megaman/Rockman theme. Finally, I also remember in an interview that Legends IS indeed canon to the original Megaman timeline in addition to Classic era - taking place in 20XX - and the X series - taking place in 21XX. Legends (or DASH) takes place in XXXX - so far into the future it isn't even worth mentioning the year. For all we know, it could be the year 9999. Also, Megaman being named Megaman is a localization issue. He was still referred to as Rock and Rockman in the originals. Roll's journal is different in the Japanese version (localization is fun stuff, IIRC all purifier units are referred to as Megaman's... Megamen?... e.g.: Megaman Juno, Megaman Trigger, etc). This was a great video and I really enjoyed it! Keep up the good work!

[@maccamachine]

This video is great man I love any mega man videos like this one of my favorite series

[@Ventus_S]

Lmao , so Megaman stuck on that planet for 21 years (23 yrs now)

[@Dreadnought358]

After our mega boy becomes mega man. ROFL!

[@thebatman9628]

I thought he had a robot body, how do he do his special weapons? Why do he need data to heard his memories if he a real boy?

[@streetcurb2451]

This is a nice video

[@JustRichGatesTv]

🔥🔥🔥

[@amstacy09]

Geetz and Gatz Reverbot form always reminded me of Lugia

[@Boo-eo2fz]

I just didn't want any suffering so I just max the laser and killed the final boss without thinking.

[@StrawHalo44]

One of my favorite games ever

[@aster3881]

I've beaten this game mutiple times back then......and it only is NOW occurring to me that somehow data made it back to earth after being with megaman in the final area xD. Welp. Guess he backed himself somewhere on earth is gonna be my assumption.

[@DankDoozlton]

I would love a third and some strong remasters

[@Gomezli16]

Looks like cel shading. Btw, I get major Hunter x Hunter/Grandia vibes from Legends.

[@cgRui34]

Hayao Miyazaki's movie Castle In The Sky also has the same theme of airships, pirates, a floating ancient castle surrounded by an impenetrable storm, and ancient technology that can potentially destroy the world.

[@LEXICON-DEVIL]

8:31 Is that really his body tho? Cus Grampa got a cyborg eye and the bad guy of the first game has red eyes. I thought so much time has passed since the x series that the line between human and reploid was so blurred that they were some type of hybrids. If that really is his body then Dumb and Dumber comes to mind. “What if they shot him in the face?”

[@solblackguy]

I'm torn between which game I like more. Legends had such a great charm to it and contrast between colorful and anime-like overworld and creepy terrifying atmospheric dungeons. Legends 2 made massive improvements to gameplay mechanics and controls, had a more open world but it didn't have that same theming Legends had. Not bad in any way, just different by comparison.

[@j.m.3600]

Looks like an awesome game! *gets on eBay to find it to play for my newly acquired PS2* sees $240 piece tag. Yikes what a shame. Pc here we come

[@plumbthumbicus]

$10 on ps3 store.

[@rocketpunchgo1]

Excellent video about an excellent videogame, bro

[@nikopiko9683]

Amazing job man

[@BrickMuffin]

Well done!

[@Thor-Orion]

This series was too good to only get 2 entries when there are 8 X games and 11 Rockman games.

[@mmsthfanatic6296]

pretty great, came from your reddit post.

[@videogamesare1]

Your content is relaxing. Sub'd

[@bmitchell6]

Just found your channel love the vids fam.

[@bayumahendra1797]

Funfact The MML2 actually the 2nd part of final product The 1st part is exclusive as japan bonus cd demo

[@nubocida]

Ñau, gracias uwu realmente amo estos juegos

[@davemarx7856]

#GetMegaOffTheMoon

[@dudenamedzelda3179]

The whole Roll naming Rockman "MegaMan" thing isn't really canon in the Japanese version of Rockman DASH 2 Professor Barrel named Rockman Rock as a pun on Rock and Roll Capcom's translation team changed it to MegaMan because they thought Rock was short for Rockman and Rockman means MegaMan so it was changed to MegaMan Volnutt and the whole MegaMan being Rock and Roll's favorite video game series was promotion done mostly on Capcom USA's part

[@SunbearSmoke]

I know this is two years late, but I need to point out MEGAMAN LEGENDS is the ONLY game where Rockman is wearing armor, in every other rendition only the helmet is removable.

[@Someguyonline7732]

Every single boss that you complained about circle strafe not working was purely because you don’t know how to jump while you do it. Bola. Klaymoor. Tron in Pokte Village.

[@Robert_D_Mercer]

... I didn't even realize I've been watching so many videos from the same channel; KZbin is REALLY messing up not promoting channels like this that posts quality instead of quantity. Edit: My brother's channel has 700 subs and all he posted was a street fighter combo video...

[@fuzzyslippersyt]

Thanks I appreciate the support! The alogorithm is a harsh mistress when you're first starting out, as if you're not covering something big and mainstream, with people also searching for it at the same time, it can take a while to really grow. But that's why I keep going, promoting my videos and refining how I do things. So hopefully one day it get's the attention I hope it deserves

[@Robert_D_Mercer]

@@fuzzyslippersyt haha I still watch ur videos, love your retrospectives and it's so good for 2nd monitor content when I'm grinding in a rpg or something :P

[@BustershotTV]

Btw i find bola very cool

[@espelhodasconstelacoes]

This video is so awesome bro! God bless you and Jesus loves you :D we'll never see volnutt again will we? :')

[@chronossage]

Actually giving the lonely girl the piggy and getting/giving the school items to the twins does give you something. It give Mega Man good karma so you can become holy Mega Man in normal mode and get the shop discount. You see to get holy Mega Man you need 16384 Good karma. You can get 3000 from the A test, 8000 from the S test, 5000 from rebuilding Potke village after Tron destroys it, 5000 from giving the school items, and 1500 from giving the piggy. So you can get it without donating to the church but it's only possible in normal mode.

[@randyboyton4352]

23 years

[@jasonstuddy2840]

your awesome bro

[@Nesenda]

if you knock king miroc down, then pick it up and throw it, ittl die with 1 more shot. also you can kill klaymoor in 2 seconds flat with the drill. best way to fight geetz is with z-sabre

[@cyshadowx]

so legends is a sequel 1000s of years after megaman x and z zx wow what lore lol it's crazy like the star wars timeline

[@Mateoski97]

I feel like this game should've had 6 or 8 keys instead of just 4.

[@bobbyhumphrey199]

The final scene in x command mission...is it just me or does the island the camera is fixed on look like kattelox

[@jasonmiller2359]

Did that sound attack cause Glyde and the birdbots to malfunction or something; what happened there I've always wondered about that lol