Design Cinema Podcast EP 4 - Money

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[@JerryNK]

I've literally been waiting 4 years for you to talk about this. Thank you sir

[@staerink6901]

When I started to think Feng Zhu couldn't get any cooler, he put some Pink Floyd in the intro, what a legend, love you man

[@EnzoDraws]

*Mentions Frozen *Starts talking about how once it's over, they let you go Ha.

[@christopherkeim112]

I was thinking that too 😀

[@TheSickrosSIM]

+Enzo he almost start singing i think

[@saeidehrad5070]

I literally worked as a slave freelancer with a rate lower than a waitress because I thought this is the rate that any newbie junior artist will get such eye opening facts you shared it's a relief to see the hope thanks

[@jeradbeauregard4393]

@@grimujoooo to be fair I expect to make less in my first concept job than I do serving in a large city. (it can be very lucrative to serve)

[@Yugimation]

After listening to this whole three part series I can definitively say I am grateful to have instructors and professors that have experience in the animation and gaming industry. Not only do i live in Los Angeles but my professors have some of the biggest connections to directors and other professionals. I will try and take all of this helpful advice and apply it to my own work. I have even completely revamped my portfolio because of this podcast. Thank you for all your insightful knowledge Feng!

[@_lex_ndre]

What happens to EP 3? This regularity is being great! Thanks a lot for your time providing these podcasts.

[@AbaddonDrums]

+Alexandre Ferreira Numbers are little confusing, check the website in description. First is Career in concept art, Second is Online portfolio tips and the third one is Landing that job which is numbered here on YT as the second one. Anyway, on the website there are all four of them. :)

[@_lex_ndre]

+Abaddon Drums ohh, got it! Thank you. :)

[@Thepixelbuster]

Great to see regular content again-- especially these longer podcasts! Thank you!

[@ltramaral]

Hey, Feng! There's still one thing that I would like to hear you talking about. I hope you can answer on a Q&A episode. When freelancing, what's the standard on the industry for paying time? Do you get paid before the job or after it? Or do you get half the money at the start, and the other half later? Thanks a lot for this podcast, man! So much helpful!

[@MelbourneArchviz]

@ 38:40 for sake of accuracy the month has 20-22 working days not 30. The more senior you get the more you're able to not have to work on weekends and you also are at that age where you have a family to be with.

[@jacobduncan958]

So helpful, thank you Feng. These podcasts are a real gift.

[@Cearts]

Feng sounded real smooth and soulful in that intro. Again, you time and information is deeply appreciated

[@oOOo-mf3oe]

These podcasts are working great! I hope that design cinema will run as usual since you gave yourselves additional work :)

[@novusvoss]

This is invaluable information and from a source that we can trust in 100%. And all for free!! Thank you so much Feng!!

[@jaymontgomery3062]

These podcast are great! Thank you Feng and the people who put these together.

[@salasart]

I hear this while I work. Thanks Feng! this is great! keep 'em coming!

[@stijngrooten1784]

Hi, I've been following fzd ever since I started my studies 5 years ago. I've now finally entered the industry about 4 months ago but something amazing has happened to me, after roughly 2 months I got the opportunity to become art supervisor. The art director is in Poland, they needed someone here to understand his vision better and help person to person with the people here and I seemed to be at the right place at the right time. I'm just not sure where to go from here, I feel I'm missing 5 - 10 years of experience and knowledge, but I do have that in people skills, working with a team etc... My question would be:" how do I now profile myself? What do I do with the money I ask (I got a 30% raise with the new position)?" Anyway, I'll find my way around and I'll keep listening. Thank you for all the help during these years! :)

[@AjiMaho91]

GREAT! So difficult to get this kind of information!

[@AIRpursuit]

these 4 part videos are really helpful getting to know how the industry operates. Some of the life experience tips are very humble and I appreciate you sharing them! The only regret I have is that I never step foot into this field when I was much younger like you did....Now that I'm an old man....trying to do what young bloods are doing, I always feel bad about it!

[@SRT_Ashamane]

Thank you, this was very good information! A few things you mentioned probably WOULD have hung me up if I was unaware. Now if I break in, I'll be far more comfortable taking the hit from my cozy salary for that first design job. If I hadn't heard this, I'd have been skeptical of my life choice for a career change. Also very good cautionary information; I'll be sure to speed up my process before I even attempt that break in. It seems the industry is too reliant on first impressions to make it worth just taking a shot in the dark. I will be ready first. Truly, excellent information. Thank you.

[@ryanh3484]

Great talk Feng, one of my favourites so far.

[@serenabeatrice2782]

Thank you so much for these amazing infos!!! Finally someone who talks about such an important supject!!

[@HensenFM]

Feng Zhu always make me open mind ... what really happen in reality creative industry so many competition in full time job.... what freelancer really do... and the rates... and many others things that really usefull to know .... thanks Feng ...sharing ur experience

[@edysetiawanwijaya1412]

Happy Chinese new year, Feng Zhu!! thank you so much for all of your videos.. been watching all of them and really grateful. :)

[@xxDarkaNNgelTarjaxx]

loving this so much! so valuable and inspiring! thankyou for taking the time to do these things for us!

[@DagobertX2]

This was again a great episode with tons of good information. Thank you.

[@ElodiaGred]

Thank you so much. I listen to you while I draw something, it's so useful. Looking forward the next episode. P.S. Nice to hear the Pink Floyd here ))

[@fratut]

Thank you for taking the time and effort for gathering all this information and telling us about the industry :D

[@Irryu90]

Awyeaah, thanks for the podcast feng!

[@petersomogyi8168]

Thank you so mutch! I want to have my own company, not even in cocept art, but this was so so helpful on all areas in making a functioning work ethic for yourself.

[@TheSolidmoose]

Amazing episode! I love this format and consistency

[@honeyoink]

i'm just starting as a freelance illustrator and the tips are so useful

[@PhantomDrawing]

Great great podcast! Really good information!

[@javisartdesign]

Interesting Podcast Feng!

[@cyrilfrnt]

Great podcast once again. Love the format, i'm listening to it while cooking :-) Hey you mentioned investing in the best config possible. I am buying a new screen (Asus PA279Q), do you guys have any recommandation on the kind of components i should choose to run it correctly ? Thanks in advance !

[@AnarionOlorin]

Hi Feng, can you show some of your work from the beginning of your career, I'm very curious about it because you are so good in what you are doing, I'd like to see your progress over the years. Thanks in advance.

[@wearenotthesame4689]

Mr. Feng Zhu, please upload more we miss your advices!

[@TTT-bd8ku]

You are a great teacher .

[@vloopyart]

Great podcast Feng, could you go more in depth about how to do invoicing, to those who don't know what that is?

[@Eagerrr08]

Hi. Thank you for your work and things you do for people. In this podcast were named some designers as example of amazing work. But I didn't understand how spell their names. Is it possible in such cases to provide names in description of video or podcast. Thank you.

[@sunilkainth2971]

Thanks Feng for another great podcast!:-)

[@OHNOcomments]

thank you for the podcast! :)

[@MelbourneArchviz]

55K 20 years ago was worth much more than today and had higher purchasing power. it is equal to 40K today which means that Juniors are making 15 to 20% less than they used to even if the number stays the same.

[@bpdd85]

finally the taboo topic!!!! thank you!!!!

[@abhinavramesh4682]

Loved the intro :D Money!!! :)

[@benjaminfranz156]

I have a question about one thing. How do I make my paints more High definition in photoshop. And if theres a video can you link it to me witht the time he starts talking about it? Much love

[@slathas]

+GuardianO Face What exactly do you mean by more High definition? You could increase the resolution? Everything else would depend on your painting skills. Details avoiding the use of muddy colors and so on.

[@awesometoyreviews13]

So i currently use traditional media and a digital display tablet to make my art, but my tablet stopped working! I only have enough money to afford an intous pro medium, is it hard to switch from traditional to an intous? or is it just adapting to form better hand-eye coordination?

[@awesometoyreviews13]

also, great advice with the podcast! really enjoyed it and learned a lot.

[@ink_tea]

Hi Feng, What do you do in terms of copyright when freelancing, in terms of who owns the copyright for unused designs? Does this vary between projects? Thank you :)

[@riteasrain]

I'm 64. So much for my rich past going down the gurgler ;-) I've got the tiny Wacom - 4x5. Cute!

[@kdshay22]

Could you please talk about the appropriate way to apply to companies as a freelancer? For example, if I look at the job openings for 3D artists at Ubisoft, I can see that there is an opening in Singapore and I can select to apply for that particular position, but what if I just want to apply for that position as a freelancer? What is the correct way of going about it? Thank you for your time.

[@Darkmagician84]

Great info, thank you!!

[@veerendradeshpande]

Hi Feng, Thanks for a great Design Cinema!!! I have a question. I am Senior 3D Environment Artist working in Games Industry for ~8 yrs. I am thinking of switching my career path to becoming a concept artist. Eventually I want to start my own small studio. Design new worlds and characters and tell great stories. I am trapped into being a 3D artist. How can I switch my career? Build my concept art portfolio and apply as a intern concept artist? How can I make that transition? I need your guidance.

[@travis777goldenwing]

Question for another time: I am in Emily carr university learning animation / 3D modelling but my first love is concept art. (which the school has no classes in whatsoever) Will animation skills transfer over into the concept art world? I know Ben Lo originated within animation.

[@Evan1527]

Hey Feng if i become a "mercenary" artist, going from company to company is it "ethical" or professional to share company secrets? like pipeline stuff or techniques and well things like that, with the purpose of course being to "help" the people or pipeline in the new company...?

[@chrisalejado1396]

episode 2 and 3 combined? cannot find 3.

[@joshhefetz6977]

I have a question, I am hoping to join FZD in a few years as i need to save up but i'm worried that i may not get a place when i am done saving, is it possible to apply and then defer the entry for a couple of years?

[@Tonilly]

Thank Feng!

[@cymaratechoverdragon]

6 figures a year, 100k, i'd be absolutely buzzing with that kind of salary.

[@MelbourneArchviz]

+cymaratechoverdragon most of it goes to taxes. I know couples earning 180K+ and are in debt barely making it. the more money you make the more inclined you are to spending.

[@prinzsalamander]

@Keep Rocking! hahah nice one :D

[@q12x]

Very good !

[@DanielThiele]

I send this to lalmost all my potential clients who ask for fixed prices for concept artwork.

[@novabeen4524]

can any kind soul explain what is the acronym for IP?

[@novabeen4524]

@Maxaye thank you!!

[@EricWuDesign]

Feng this is Eric, I was in FZD(2013 Summer) for 2 terms, I left because I wasn't good enough to survive the training... now my problem is I have an in-house game artist(both 2d/3d) job in Taiwan for a year now, I'm happy about the environment here, also I learned (still learning) a ton here... but... the salary here is pathetic (around 1000 USD per month) and there's no future if I need to live a good life... Can you give me advices should I aim for western game companies? But the culture and art style are so different, English isn't my problem, just I'm not sure if western game companies would accept foreigners...what would you do if you are me? Thanks... I really need some help because I have a family to feed... :( They would go anywhere I go though.

[@miguelmitchelldasilva]

+Eric Wu I feel you man. I'm working for a board game company and I'm just bringing in as much as I was as a Barista. Depressing but don't give up!

[@NoxMoony]

+Eric Wu This is a tough phase, especially when you have a family to feed. But from what I've seen around the internet so far, if you're skilled companies won't mind hiring if you're a foreigner. A lot of artists from China and Korea (not American people of Asian descent) work at places like Blizzard or Riot. There's also many Indie studios that might match the kind of art style you specialise in. My two cents would be to try making a following online and get your art seen, it'll be easier to find opportunities that way. I wish ya all the best!!

[@EricWuDesign]

Thank you guys! I won't give up! :)

[@NoxMoony]

Eric Wu Yay! FIGHT!

[@icytears91]

Hi Eric, I know this post is from a year ago, but I'm from Taiwan as well and I'd like to ask you about your experience at FZD if you don't mind. Any way we can get in touch?

[@terorvlad]

I never watch podcasts over 10 minutes, but exceptions have to be made sometimes. Great video overall

[@terorvlad]

fourstarbrazil I don't normally have a hour or two to dedicate towards watching a entire podcast. Only watch 4-5 movies every semester because of the time I have to commit to them. Watching podcasts while working sometimes is fine, but I don't retain as much information as I would normally, so I tend not to like multitasking this way. During vacations I am away from technology.

[@Alumx]

+terorvlad listen to them while drawing ;D (or any other task you like doing besides music making)

[@riteasrain]

Podcasts are for listening, videos are for watching. There is a difference. I just browse, do other stuff while listening. Heck I could even cook dinner, go for a walk :D

[@issammarja345]

hey feng zhu thank you for all what are you doing sharing your knowledge with us . however can you help us with some homework like subjects and make us work under pressure so we can work good with out cheating because we are pretty lazy to make our self to work for 6 hhours or 8 on one painting that will be soo helpfull and thank you!!

[@namds3373]

After searching for weeks, i finally find it, the song intro: kzbin.info/www/bejne/maHFk6iXfqZmetU

[@GoBIGclan]

haha great intro!

[@AbaddonDrums]

I'm wondering, is it possible that You could share Your knowledge about being an Illustrator more in depth? If it is, I'd very much appreciate that because I want to be one myself. Even one episode. :)

[@victornoagbodji]

+Abaddon Drums that's what design cinema (which has 80-odd episodes) is all about. my only regret and i have the feeling that Feng and co. are on that page is what DrawCrowd is turning into. when Feng announced DrawCrowd, it was supposed to be a social network of illustrators and concept artists. a place where you can learn and share. and then, it has become a place where people compete about the sexiest anime girl. i hope this podcast will reset the record about what it means to be a concept artist. i am enjoying it so far.

[@AbaddonDrums]

victor noagbodji I didn't know about that site, I briefly checked what it is about and... I like it haha, I like anime style so, thanks. :) And about my first comment, I feel so stupid now. I totally forgot about the earlier episodes. I've started to watch them some time ago, got to about 14 episode and stopped. Thanks for reminding me.

[@victornoagbodji]

***** alright

[@bartsimpson6129]

want more to listen to :)

[@improvementTime10.3.17]

30:28 design paid for idea not piece by piece like illustration Some designs can take 5 min others can take YEARS

[@improvementTime10.3.17]

34:50 as a studio vs under your own name can get more money

[@lancedayneburgos8529]

How much salary for freelancers that doesn't have much experience in the field/industry got?...

[@micahlopez4025]

Did i miss something or did he forget Ep.3?

[@Ken5Masters]

+Micah Lopez you missed something :D i don't know why there is not 3rd episode on youtube, but go to the fzdpodcast.com. :)

[@everydaybodybuilding2282]

Came to re listen to this because apparently kirill has a day job as an IT guy lmao wtf

[@Voxavs]

Frozen and Disney letting people go... I gotta ask, was that intentional?

[@vch17ify]

29:16

[@2013danrazor2015danrazor]

im poor asf XD

[@GwenVIBANCOS]

Don't like podcasts...Just like paintings...

[@bartsimpson6129]

want more to listen to :)