GÖBEKLI TEPE - what happened in the 10,000 years before? | Göbekli Tepe to Stonehenge podcast #1

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The Prehistory Guys

The Prehistory Guys

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@elizabethmcglothlin5406
@elizabethmcglothlin5406 10 ай бұрын
I love the 'unromantic' trail of civilizations. People are people, and our ancestors are so much smarter and capable than they are given credit for being.
@2Less0is0More2
@2Less0is0More2 9 ай бұрын
Absolutely!! We live in a generation of plastic and people can't imagine a world without it. Quite sad actually
Ай бұрын
Don't be so hard on yourselves it's never to late to learn. Good luck.
@denisecatlett7203
@denisecatlett7203 Жыл бұрын
On a sleepless night I came across Standing with Stones and it’s still my favorite video/ movie to listen too to calm my sleeplessness. It’s just so calming. I really enjoy listening to both of you talk about our ancient ancestor’s and I enjoy your connection with each other and your banter. Thank you both for what you do.
@braddbradd5671
@braddbradd5671 11 ай бұрын
OMG i do the same thing in fact i cant go to sleep with out playing it on the TV ,,Before that i used to use Time Team to fall asleep to Tony Robinson has a similar voice
@richardfinlayson1524
@richardfinlayson1524 7 ай бұрын
Yeah great vid
@HypaBumfuzzle
@HypaBumfuzzle Жыл бұрын
Tea in hand, ready to gobble up my favorite topic with my favorite sirs.
@barbaraaddleman3334
@barbaraaddleman3334 Жыл бұрын
Michaels & Rupert, congrats lads...you are about to embark on the adventure of a life time!!! All the stars are aligned, figuratively and metaphorically, I can't wait to hear and see about of your adventures! I wish you all the best and safe travels, Barbara xo
@peterpaniscus988
@peterpaniscus988 8 ай бұрын
Love the show. As a parallel to the conjecture about tortoise farming. Down here in Oz, there is much evidence that one group of Aboriginals in the SE managed eels. Channels to increase eel friendly habitat were dug across the landscape, and remnants still exist today. Even if the settlements at the 'eel farms' were not permanent, having a reliable food supply in one part of the landscape, or one period of time in the seasonal round, was a great step forward in food security.
@betsybarnicle8016
@betsybarnicle8016 Ай бұрын
One interpretation of a snake-like relief carving on one T pillar is that it's actually an eel. And the reeds and water symbols by it appear to show the 'farming' of eels.
@lyleneander2100
@lyleneander2100 Жыл бұрын
You pound with a pestle, mix in a mortar. Easy way to remember. Thanks for your KZbin site. Loving it.
@garyrymar3094
@garyrymar3094 Жыл бұрын
Students wear a "mortarboard" hat when they graduate. Turn it upside down and you'll see the shape of a mortar.
Ай бұрын
@@garyrymar3094 No.
@olgak4347
@olgak4347 Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@JonnoPlays
@JonnoPlays 6 ай бұрын
People forget that Gobekli Tepe is actually one of the newer sites among hundreds of Tepe sites nearby. Pretty cool how much more there is left to learn and knowing that it will be older than Gobekli Tepe when it's finally uncovered and studied. We live in an incredible time of discovery.
@ferdi5407
@ferdi5407 Жыл бұрын
Yayyyyy!!!!! Made my day! Thank you Michael and Rupert!
@carolegarland8050
@carolegarland8050 Жыл бұрын
Glad to hear you are on track and I will be with you on the journey, It is wonderful to think of what is BEFORE Gobekli Teppi. I had not got that far. Note on visuals though you may prefer it this way. You are two small heads poking out through sepulchral gloom. Oh! I've got it - two pearls of wisdom.
@medievalladybird394
@medievalladybird394 Жыл бұрын
Once upon a time my favourite Rupert was Rupert Bear. I think I learnt to read with the strips' captions, wanting to be able to read the whole stories in my book. Since I watched Standing With Stones around 2019, I have a new favourite Rupert. Addicted since then. I'm not so much here for the history, but mostly for you two, seemingly good-natured, friendly and always smiling. What's more, you don't make me feel old. 😊 The history part is ofcourse a bonus.
@petermcbride5568
@petermcbride5568 Жыл бұрын
Hi .. you just reminded me that it was Rupert the Bear that started my joy of reading.. The rhymes first and the stories after. I still have the Annuals that my Grandparents bought me each Xmas from the early 1960s on. With the "magic painting" pages that I could never get right, using a spit soaked finger, instead of a brush. Thankyou 😊
@medievalladybird394
@medievalladybird394 Жыл бұрын
@@petermcbride5568 I don't think I had more than one of the books, 'cause we moved to Germany in 1961, but I do remember being proud of my colouring and wondering why I hadn't won anything. I must have been between six and seven years old and I loved Big Ears and Noddy and the Mary Mouse books as well ( all of which my mother hated) But I am glad Rupert Soskin doesn't wear yellow checkered trowsers. : ) Did you read Beano and Dandy as well?
@helenamcginty4920
@helenamcginty4920 Жыл бұрын
seen and heard stuff about the Nautufians from these two and others and read a long Smithsonian article today, but it's like re reading a favourite novel every hearing you learn something different. So looking forward to this. 🎉
@doghouse6413
@doghouse6413 Жыл бұрын
So glad to have discovered this channel. I always took the Netflix shows about this site with a very big grain of salt, and just appreciated the entertainment value and whatnot. But I consider this channel more valuable. Coherent, nuanced, honest, and challenging!
@lochlainnmacneill2870
@lochlainnmacneill2870 Жыл бұрын
Greetings from Lagos, Nigeria.
@chappellroseholt5740
@chappellroseholt5740 Жыл бұрын
Good morning from the glorious SF Bay Area. Got my coffee and ready to go.
@stephenburnage7687
@stephenburnage7687 Жыл бұрын
The key thing to understand about Globeki Tepi is that only a tiny fraction (less than 5%) has been excavated. Consequently, any conclusions on its role or purpose are still very premature.
@MossyMozart
@MossyMozart Жыл бұрын
@stephenburnage7687 - Community storage buildings and homes have been excavated as well as the religious-type building, so conclusions CAN be drawn. Further discoveries may alter those conclusions, which is exciting. That's how science works - new data = new conclusions. This is one of the huge differences between science and pseudo-science.
@stephenburnage7687
@stephenburnage7687 Жыл бұрын
@MossyMozart If you place the name "Globeki Tepi" in any search engine, the top results will assure you that the place was built by pre-pottery hunter gatherers. All based on less than 5% of the place being excavated, let alone any understanding as to what the few excavated carvings actually mean. Also minus any context as to what was happening to the planet in the years prior to that.. I would argue that such assertions are the pseudo science. A more honest approach would be to admit that we simply do not know.
@douginorlando6260
@douginorlando6260 Жыл бұрын
It’s like reading one chapter in a 20 chapter book. Yes, many exciting twists and turns await.
@Djerekare
@Djerekare Жыл бұрын
Its seems bevor we get the answers whit the information we needs from the past there will be an Suneruption,Supervulkan or so.....and reset 😊
@marybeth1078
@marybeth1078 Жыл бұрын
Correct!! We must start with speculation without presumption.
@paradigm5084
@paradigm5084 Жыл бұрын
So happy I stumbled into this channel. Fine gentlemen and solid investigative work.
@atix50
@atix50 Жыл бұрын
I love the nuanced look you guys have of pre history! As a woman, my mind is thinking 🤔 Our human love of bread made is settle, and probably our inability to stop fighting with each other made us settle in large groups to protect our ability to make bread. Keeping animals negated the need for having men to hunt because they were off clobbering each other or we women liked clothes, so we needed lots of sheep/goats to make our ensembles. Lol
@MossyMozart
@MossyMozart Жыл бұрын
@atix50 - So, beer did not create settlements, but the practical, calming effects of women on their societies DID. (Why waste perfectly good bread on making beer? >_
@jamesmichael3609
@jamesmichael3609 Жыл бұрын
Do not assume women were inclined toward pacifism. Their fields needed protection, and they may well have berated their men into providing status enhancing heads on poles outside their huts.
@Thor-Orion
@Thor-Orion Жыл бұрын
Warfare definitely predates agriculture, we have evidence of warfare like activity in these homo antecessor that were found in Spain from like 1,000,000 years ago. But you can’t raise large scale armies until agriculture, because you can’t feed armies without it.
@carolfranklin758
@carolfranklin758 Жыл бұрын
Tt
@lindasue8719
@lindasue8719 Жыл бұрын
I like to think she was just fondly remembered as "that person who likes to collect to shells" ❤️ in the same way that when I kick it, people might put little pig figurines or owl figurines in my burial place ☺️
@julianmetcalfe1070
@julianmetcalfe1070 Жыл бұрын
Really looking forward to this guys
@dalewarke7763
@dalewarke7763 Жыл бұрын
I have watched many videos and read much on Gobekli Tepe. Afterwards I could never wrap my head around the theory that small groups of hunter-gathers built this amazing site, traveling around and meeting there to build such a detailed structure. There had to be a core group leading the construction that was residing in the area. As massive as this site is, it would take quite a while to build. I'm betting you will find in time, that there will be discovered a large number communities and cities in the general area with routes all leading to the site.
@arnman2093
@arnman2093 Жыл бұрын
Thrilled to see the podcast! Downloading it now. Thank you!
@petermcbride5568
@petermcbride5568 Жыл бұрын
Yes... mankind became more sedentary when they discovered how to make ale from these humungous amounts of cereals they had structures specialised for storage.. barbequed tortoise, which were as ubiquitous as ants, flutes made from wing bones, multiple uses of grasses, beliefs in higher powers, cups made from tree barks, mass production of beaded necklaces to trade.. that all reminds me of how we lived in the fields of late 1970s early 80s Glastonbury festival (before it became the Babylon it is today).... Great show, chaps. I hope the coming trip to Gobekli Tepe is a success, we look forward to the continuing pod casts that you have planned. The Pre History Guys is one of the most engaging "things" on archaeology available on the net along with Crow County Archaeological Centre, your presentations are so uniquely English and all the more enjoyable for it. Peter in North Wales.
@Mrcool12684
@Mrcool12684 Жыл бұрын
Dudes I literally laughed out loud when Rupert said “not so fast” about turtles hahaha love you 2
@Lerie2010able
@Lerie2010able 11 ай бұрын
Hahah love it when you forget the name of stuff - we all do - remember the moratorium the bowl used by the Romans for grinding. What an enjoyable podcast - so much to look forward to.
@andrewlamb8055
@andrewlamb8055 11 ай бұрын
Thank you guys, my first visit to your site … you guys go for it! ⚔️⭐️🌍👏💫
@GingerCnut
@GingerCnut Жыл бұрын
I have been looking forward too this thank you, you kind young gentlemen.
@_MikeJon_
@_MikeJon_ Жыл бұрын
I've been looking forward to this! Funny thing, I was just debating my brother on this sort of subject. I sent him the world of antiquity video and now this one lol.
@MossyMozart
@MossyMozart Жыл бұрын
@_MikeJon_ - Then you might enjoy an episode on 'The Tel' channel that mentions Göbekli Tepe, not in terms of archeology, but in terms of the origins of religion. (There is also a very good debunking episode there on the Younger Dryas - concise, well-cited, interesting.)
@Asif.........
@Asif......... Жыл бұрын
What a pleasant surprise!
@QuaaludeCharlie
@QuaaludeCharlie Жыл бұрын
Thank you Michael and Rupert for what you do favorite topic .
@nigelrogers9519
@nigelrogers9519 3 ай бұрын
I like your description of the settling down process, but I have a question. If this spot was so idyllic, surely other nomadic peoples would also visit on a seasonal basis and would deplete 'your' resources. So I imagine the settled people would have become territorial and defend these resources. Is there anything in the archaeological record to show this?
@stephenburnage7687
@stephenburnage7687 Жыл бұрын
Surely the most relevant 'context' for Globeki Tepi is that it is dated as immediately following the Younger Dryas (12,900 to 11,700 BP) events (which transitioned earth from the Pleistocein to the present Halocene epoch)? This series of events saw the earth experience a gradual warming, followed by a sudden rapid (unexplained) cooling, followed by a gradual warming, all as established in both Greenland and Antarctic ice core records (ie were global). In other words, whatever civilization built and/or occupied Globeki Tepi had just survived some of the most catastrophic, potentially extinction level (for some species) events experienced by our plannet for at least hundreds of thousands of years.
@MossyMozart
@MossyMozart Жыл бұрын
@stephenburnage7687 - Just like with many other pre-historic events, there are explanations, some of which are valid, some of which are wacky.
@stephenburnage7687
@stephenburnage7687 Жыл бұрын
@MossyMozart Yes, agreed, there are no shortage of whacky theories out there. Nonetheless, there is now a solid, indisputable body of, ice core, sedimentary and tree ring evidence that planet earth experiences major, periodic, extinction level events (at least three in our probable million year history) and yet historians still cling to a misplaced belief that life on earth developed uniformly, unpunctuated by such events.
@TheDogPa
@TheDogPa Жыл бұрын
@@MossyMozart All of which are mostly theory and imagination.
@setuberyacht3923
@setuberyacht3923 Жыл бұрын
'cept the rapid cooling wasn't global, Northern, mostly USA/Canada or UK/EU (Atlantic in common?) - this looks like a MOC event, aka the high salinity of the northward-flowing upper waters of the North Atlantic ocean is an essential condition for the formation of deep, cold, dense waters at high latitudes, as part of the meridional overturning circulation (MOC) and if it stops there is a "relatively rapid" cooling (over decades). Turkey/Levant/the Crescent evolving throughout minus at least? 22,000 to 11,700 BP!
@stephenburnage7687
@stephenburnage7687 Жыл бұрын
@setuberyacht3923 It shows up on both the Greenland and Antarctic ice core records, which is why it is considered global.
@Jhossack
@Jhossack 8 ай бұрын
First time in with you guys. This is my time period place to think about
@nancythomas-wardm.b.a2993
@nancythomas-wardm.b.a2993 Жыл бұрын
I,M GETTING SO EXCITED... HURrY UP AS I AM BURSTING.... the weather has cooled down here so i,m waiting...lol XXX n
@carolwunsch4546
@carolwunsch4546 Жыл бұрын
I’ve been a ‘lurker’ on your channel for quite a while, but so happy about your trip that I must comment. Have just watched your initial updates on the trip, and returned to this video for more information. Great trip so far - so happy for you both!
@biodome2807
@biodome2807 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for starting this awesome series. Love the information and ideas
@janetmackinnon3411
@janetmackinnon3411 Жыл бұрын
So intersting---just like having erudite friends.None of the horrible condescension of other history videos. I do hjope your great adventure brings you joy.
@AmyBee4
@AmyBee4 Жыл бұрын
Great episode. I really enjoyed it and learned a lot! Thanks! Looking forward to your dispatches from afar!
@merryndineley2629
@merryndineley2629 Жыл бұрын
What a great adventure! From the Natufian to the Neolithic. You discuss Braidwood's "bread or beer" debate (from the 1950s) but not malt, the crucial ingredient for ale and beer. Hans Helbaek, as part of that debate, considered malting to be an important aspect of grain processing in the world of the early farmers. When you interviewed us four years ago about Neolithic Beer we talked a lot about malt. It's a significant aspect of the story. Sorry if I'm repeating myself but I made a similar comment about this here yesterday and can't find it now. 🙂
@elizabethhubble5296
@elizabethhubble5296 Жыл бұрын
Love you two since Standing with Stones. Became a patron today.
@Benjamin-mh8ei
@Benjamin-mh8ei Жыл бұрын
These guys are adorable, and calming to listen to. I also learn a lot!
@jukeseyable
@jukeseyable Жыл бұрын
So glad Prof Watkin got a mention, I spent many a happy hour on the flotation at Pinabasi despite having to break the ice first thing later in the dig season, an absolute privilage to pick his brains when he had no option of escape
@1clinkerman
@1clinkerman Жыл бұрын
Very good!
@Hiltok
@Hiltok 7 ай бұрын
I love that your discussion touches on the problem in our thinking about hunter gatherers necessarily being nomadic. Of course hunter gatherers living in particularly rich environments would remain in place, because there was every incentive to stay and no incentive to move. At the same time, equally intelligent, knowledgeable and skillful people living in more difficult environments necessarily moved about so as not to overtax the resources in any particular location. There were no doubt locations that were good enough for people to stay for extended periods but not so rich that they could remain permanently. Thus, the line between hunter gatherers and early farmers is necessarily rather fuzzy.
@carriekelly4186
@carriekelly4186 Жыл бұрын
To me,the art work is the coolest part😊I see the same fox,snakes,boars and jaguars that i swear this guy from the smaller semi permanent site had to have been the same artist that did many of the carvings at Gobekli Tepe. God i would love to have a few beers with that chap. Incredible expressive depictions of local species...wow.
@carriekelly4186
@carriekelly4186 Жыл бұрын
Yes indeed the many Tes Tepler archeological sites being researched for many years and show chronologically all the stages and skills that were taking place culminating in a grand meeting place for hunter gatherers of the region to share knowledge,break bread and feast before deciding to go into agricultural and more permanent settlements. You can see there are t pillars,similar artwork and many other clues and tools all over Tes Tepeler region leading up to the last hurrah of hunter gatherers in Gobekli tepe.
@erpthompsonqueen9130
@erpthompsonqueen9130 Жыл бұрын
Thank you. Watching from Alaska. I have missed you.
@MrFrozenoak
@MrFrozenoak Жыл бұрын
I am very excited to observe and learn from this series. I’m a new subscriber with high hopes. Good luck.
@sharonhoerr6523
@sharonhoerr6523 Жыл бұрын
It is fascinating that some of the oldest settlements are now (still?) in turmoil, despite the lack of water.
@radekm9922
@radekm9922 Жыл бұрын
Fascinating topic however delivery is very very haotic you guys seem like having a great time but it is difficult to follow when you jump from one topic to another and there is not that much of structure.
@stevorobo8411
@stevorobo8411 Жыл бұрын
Hey lads, I'm watching this podcast on here as my Patreon isn't playing videos very well at all since it's 'new look' launch.... I have a point to raise.... I don't know if you have control over how many adverts KZbin plays during your videos, but there's been a hell of a lot for this one... Like absolutely over kill, to the point I'm 22min in and can't take anymore. It's not something I've ever noticed on your channel before, maybe the odd advert here and there.... Which is totally acceptable on a Freeview platform imo... But every 2 minutes.... Will put a Hella lot of people off viewing the full hour.
@ThePrehistoryGuys
@ThePrehistoryGuys Жыл бұрын
Take your point. I'll have a look at that - I suspect that because there aren't any natural breaks (KZbin usually does a reasonable job of placing ads in breaks) it may have saturated the timeline. Thanks Stevo. M.
@ThePrehistoryGuys
@ThePrehistoryGuys Жыл бұрын
UPDATE: You're right. I've just cut out well over half of them. Hopefully that'll keep people watching longer. Thanks for the heads up.
@MossyMozart
@MossyMozart Жыл бұрын
@stevorobo8411 - Try a different ad-blocker?
@mariansmith7694
@mariansmith7694 Жыл бұрын
The more we learn, the more we see that human history just keeps going back farther and farther. We must keep digging deeper...
@lindasue8719
@lindasue8719 3 ай бұрын
40:27 "... And the chalice from the palace has the brew that is true..." 😄 I love this mind shift to they stayed put because storage became an issue - they could collect enough for their needs so why drag it around if they have a nice spot? I can remember being 10 years old in school and learning about how civilization started 5000 BC and that agriculture started when they stopped moving around.
@dianespears6057
@dianespears6057 Жыл бұрын
Good job, Guys.
@Watcher1852
@Watcher1852 Жыл бұрын
LOVE YOUR VIDEOS THANK U BOTH. SHARE, SHARE
@suzylogan3524
@suzylogan3524 Жыл бұрын
Thanks guys ‘‘twas fantastic.
@francisfischer7620
@francisfischer7620 Жыл бұрын
So nice to meet you fellows!
@francisfischer7620
@francisfischer7620 Жыл бұрын
In a KZbin culture of 20 year olds, it's nice to find intelligent people of a credible age who can talk!
@greendragonreprised6885
@greendragonreprised6885 Жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure beer's contribution to the development of civilisation is underrated. After all most of the time water was unfit to drink because of (then) unknown bacteria whereas the first step in brewing is boiling the water and killing the bacteria in the process.
@dadsonworldwide3238
@dadsonworldwide3238 Жыл бұрын
Rotting fruit wouldve been so easy to identify once a hungry person gorged themselves with it lol I find it to be more wild how little people today think of ancient minds. Most of what I encounter is a poor modern disconnect with natural human abilities and or labor oriented qualities
@marybeth1078
@marybeth1078 Жыл бұрын
What luck, to find you guys at your first episode🎉😂❤😊
@eyesofisabelofficial
@eyesofisabelofficial Жыл бұрын
I like the "Desert Kite" over hunting/ Cult of the Gazelle hypothesis.
@suussss71
@suussss71 Жыл бұрын
You cannot find another site, that is so spectacular as Göbekli tepe. İt is just so breath taking to sea those huge "pilars"..
@Gallaphant
@Gallaphant Жыл бұрын
I think the most interesting thing here is the existence of an intermediate stage between nomadic hunter gatherers and farming communities. The sedentary hunter gatherers that persisted for thousands and thousands of years. It really alters how we see prehistory.
@evanhadkins5532
@evanhadkins5532 Жыл бұрын
Another one is nomadism within fixed boundaries (Australian First Nations).
@JonnoPlays
@JonnoPlays 6 ай бұрын
PBS says that humans domesticated marijuana plants before any other plants. Can you do an episode about this? Seems like people needed pottery to store their dank nugz before they were storing their food.
@Ari_Reijo_Kalevi_Piispanen
@Ari_Reijo_Kalevi_Piispanen Жыл бұрын
♪♫♥Very Interesting - Thank you for sharing guys 🤪
@nukhetyavuz
@nukhetyavuz Жыл бұрын
doing your podcasts i hope sth culturally combining the world comes up...the world is one,hope objective research will enlighten us all🌏
@EdwardPike
@EdwardPike Жыл бұрын
The hunter gatherers we found in the last 400 years were the last ones living on the most marginal land, so they had to be nomadic. Farmers, mostly agriculturalist, had already taken all the quality land that would let you be sedentary and still be hunters, gatherers, and horticulturalist.
@lynnehrhart5789
@lynnehrhart5789 Жыл бұрын
“I think it is utterly shameful you said ‘not so fast’.” They laughed, I laughed.
@Thor-Orion
@Thor-Orion Жыл бұрын
19:53 my impression was that scientists weren’t dismissing the possibility of cultivation of “wild grains” but rather that what they had recovered simply couldn’t be considered domestic grain.
@stephaniegrable2612
@stephaniegrable2612 Жыл бұрын
I find it absurd to think this was ground zero fir anything considering the skill utilized
@dadsonworldwide3238
@dadsonworldwide3238 Жыл бұрын
This is exactly how oral traditions remembered it. Even in the later days of ottoman empire when western soldiers encountered oral traditions and of its geologically on a map where the mouths of the euphratis & tiaras rivers which has such a written record of importance
@KK-lg8uz
@KK-lg8uz Жыл бұрын
sorry, can you please expand and explain what you're saying here?@@dadsonworldwide3238
@KK-lg8uz
@KK-lg8uz Жыл бұрын
and any source data references would be great@@dadsonworldwide3238
@ΑΝΑΣΤΑΣΊΑΜΟΙΡΑ
@ΑΝΑΣΤΑΣΊΑΜΟΙΡΑ Ай бұрын
Hi prehistory guys I am Greek and I know about obsidian in Milos since highschool!In Crete we have The university that are specialized in paleolithic and neolithic in the island of Lesbos that they excavate Mesolithic tools axes !Maybe you should look it up Thank you it's very nice to hear your voices !!!
@gladysseaman4346
@gladysseaman4346 Жыл бұрын
As a child who had tortoises as pets, I agree they can be prolific egg layers. Getting the newly hatched, soft-shelled babies to survive is another thing altogether. Adult tortoises love eating the babies.
@WeAreHereWithYou
@WeAreHereWithYou Жыл бұрын
😳
@jukeseyable
@jukeseyable Жыл бұрын
when you are at chatal, if you have the oppertunity to swing by Pinabasi, its a fabulious little site, spent 3 great seasons digging there 2003 through 5. Karaman is a nice enough place, Konya not so much. enjoy turkey folks, the Konya plain is full of delicious archaeology
@fredscott1002
@fredscott1002 Жыл бұрын
With The last ice age, with it's lower sea levels, there were probably many civilizations that are now under water.
@fransinhooo
@fransinhooo Жыл бұрын
Salute from Brazil.i have just subscribed..
@ThePrehistoryGuys
@ThePrehistoryGuys Жыл бұрын
Welcome, and thank you:)
@aBRUSHforCONFUCIUS
@aBRUSHforCONFUCIUS Жыл бұрын
If you guys are covering Gobekli Tepe, you must cover one of its sister sites called, "Kerehan Tepe." It is far more exciting. It is only a few dozen kilometers away.
@hachwarwickshire292
@hachwarwickshire292 Жыл бұрын
So ? What you're saying is :- "Early settled humans spent their time making and drinking beer whilst tortoise farming." ! Now that really does sound like a 'Garden of Eden' life style. 😊
@StargazerFS128
@StargazerFS128 7 ай бұрын
After listening to this great show I sort of get the impression that Gobleki Tepe is not necessarily the earliest evidence of sedimentary lifestyle as I was led to believe by the media. If this is the case then what exactly makes it a unique site? is it the scale of its construction? are the monuments at GT on a scale never seen before? thank.
@carriekelly4186
@carriekelly4186 Жыл бұрын
I'd like to add that of course this transition was gradual as folks chose places theyd like to settle maybe more briefly at first,then as time went on they saw that conducting daily affairs from a home base settlement had so many benefits instead of dragging their belongings and families around all the time they were able to accumulate enough food and goods to start trading and then just keeps developing 😅
@amyk6403
@amyk6403 10 ай бұрын
Re: the gazelle I wonder if they increased gazelle hunting because there were more gazelle to hunt. (Initially) I imagine that after the Younger Dryas, many herds began to change their migration patterns in response to climate change. Maybe GT was serendipitously located in the "sweet spot."
@benjohnston1676
@benjohnston1676 Жыл бұрын
So are we all agreed that gobekli tepe helps us move beyond the timeline already understood to be the start of everything ?
@TreeLuvBurdpu
@TreeLuvBurdpu Жыл бұрын
My theory is that dogs invented beer. If you feed ANY dog beer it will drink it faster than water. Dogs found the drainage from old grain storage and drank it all. People noticed the dog's always drinking it and named it "beer". Beer started in dog-owning cultures.
@Al-AI
@Al-AI Жыл бұрын
Will this be available 'wherever you get your podcasts"?
@ThePrehistoryGuys
@ThePrehistoryGuys Жыл бұрын
Yes. The audio podcast has only just gone live and has been submitted to all the major services, Including Apple and Spotify. I would expect it to take a little while for it to show up in all of them. In the meantime, try the hosting site here: gobekli-tepe-stonehenge.captivate.fm/ Michael.
@Al-AI
@Al-AI Жыл бұрын
@@ThePrehistoryGuys great, thank you. I'm off out and can't wait. And I can't wait for the prequel... " [insert place name] to Göbekli Tepe" 😉
@stephennicolay1940
@stephennicolay1940 8 ай бұрын
Archaeology. and Archaeoastronomy are the precursors of all historical information associated with all ancient projects.
@paulwilson6511
@paulwilson6511 Жыл бұрын
If you can get your hands on the highest resolution CO2 numbers you can get (not the smoothed faked out ones), you will see that wheat and barley only grows well enough when CO2 is higher than 250 ppm. Agriculture (and just wild harvesting of the same) only worked when CO2 went above 250 ppm. Younger Dryas was a period when it went back below and hence gathering and planting of wild wheat and barley just quit working. This is also why civilization started and why it worked. In the 100K years of CO2 below 250 ppm, humans had to rely on hunting only because most plants just did not grow well enough. What grew well was C4 grasses and hence we lived off the herbivores that could eat C4 grasses.
@TheDanEdwards
@TheDanEdwards Жыл бұрын
"(not the smoothed faked out ones)... because most plants just did not grow well enough"
@paulwilson6511
@paulwilson6511 Жыл бұрын
At one time, I had the biggest database of CO2 estimates anybody had from ice cores, paleosols, boron, foraminifera, strontium isotope, carbon isotope ... basically every estimate published or available anywhere. You don't want the smoothed versions if you are comparing to when agriculture started etc. @@TheDanEdwards
@stephenburnage7687
@stephenburnage7687 Жыл бұрын
​​@TheOriginalDanEdwards AGW is yesterday's theory. Science has learned so much since the 1980's. Firstly, ice core records now establish that the planet had far higher temperatures, going back hundreds of thousands of years; Secondly, NASA has now accurately measured the distance between earth and the sun and confirmed it is not fixed (we both rotate around the COG of the entire solar system, which is not the same as the COG of the sun); ; Thirdly, NASA has also accurately measured the suns magnetic field strength (a more accurate methodology than counting sun spots) and the correlation between the suns plasma activity and our historically recorded climate is close to 100%. AGW is a thesis that has now passed it's 'sell by' date.
@carly4610
@carly4610 Жыл бұрын
I can't wait for this journey to begin! I know you will be travelling north west through the mists of time, following the footsteps of people who decided to explore and settle in the landscapes which were gradually emerging from beneath the retreating glaciers. But will you also consider those who were travelling south east at the same time, esp. from what is now the British Isles, and what might have happened when the two parties met? Is it possible that cultures / practices / materials from prehistoric Britain influenced those in the fertile crescent area (there's a myth about a Mesolithic terrestrial zodiac created in the English Midlands area having found its way to Mesopotamia, and being the basis for the Epic of Gilgamesh). I can imagine such a meeting happening at Stonehenge, actually. Maybe the two groups got on so well, they decided to make it a permanent site. I can imagine people who had come from the Preseli Hills being quite impressed by the what the other group had brought with them, and saying, "Let's go back and get our stuff - the blue stones and things - we'll come back here to live". Weren't there very tall timber posts in the early days? Those could have been for sighting over long distances?
@aranciataesagerata2506
@aranciataesagerata2506 Жыл бұрын
Congrats, Guys, from Spain. If once you need any help with the rich Spanish megalithism (is this the right way to write it?), just tell me and I may read articles for you or give you recommendations to look at.
@philbarker7477
@philbarker7477 Жыл бұрын
Mmmm I think you should check out a rather famous KZbin history professor who has just released a very concise version of this topic.Would be far easier to point your viewers to that release allowing you to get on with the post Gobekli era which I look forward to.
@outcastoffoolgara
@outcastoffoolgara Жыл бұрын
I recall that the Russian team was well settled and well traveled long before they got to Gobekli Tepe and brought their ways and means with them. But do indulge us with your interesting exclusive focus on west eurasia.
@sallyreno6296
@sallyreno6296 Жыл бұрын
Y'all are the cat's meow!
@VaxtorT
@VaxtorT 3 ай бұрын
Lacking a Biblical Worldview, these two gentlemen are destined to be "Ever Learning; But Never Arriving at the Full Knowledge of the Truth".
@bonnieskilton3247
@bonnieskilton3247 2 ай бұрын
WAKE UP… you religious zealot and get a real life.
@iboughtthishouse
@iboughtthishouse Жыл бұрын
Curious to hear if anyone else has spotted the resemblance in shape and style of some of the megalithic monuments in Malta to Goebekli tepe?
@BaltimoresBerzerker
@BaltimoresBerzerker Жыл бұрын
Between genetics and cultural similarities, I'm pretty convinced that at least part of the ancestry of the early Anatolian farmers that entered Mediterranean Europe was from the builders of GT.
@northerncaptain855
@northerncaptain855 10 ай бұрын
Pre European Contact, Native Americans in New England and Eastern Canada used birth bark containers, as well as building remarkable birth bark canoes in a great variety of sizes. They also used hollowed out logs as cooking vessels by dropping heated stones into the hollowed cavities to heat cooking water.
@donfronterhouse4759
@donfronterhouse4759 9 ай бұрын
Do you mean "Birch" bark rather than "birth" bark?
@northerncaptain855
@northerncaptain855 9 ай бұрын
Yes-typo
@arkaig1
@arkaig1 Жыл бұрын
I'm reminded there was an Australian band called Hunters & Collectors. Numismatists afield, behind duck-blinds perhaps? So perhaps Gathering & Hunting is the transitional stage from Hunting & Gathering? I picture the Far Side panel of "Tell your father, I was raised an H-G, but now I am a G-H!", or something like that. It worked on my father-in-law! ;)
@LenkaThybo
@LenkaThybo Жыл бұрын
I really hope that you will show the world the Neolithic Dwellings Museum in Stars Zagora in Bulgaria. It's a very well kept secret but absolutely amazing.
@1v1thousand
@1v1thousand 29 күн бұрын
Tortoise and turtles were the stone age TV dinners. You find them take them back to your camp and flip them over eat them when ready. They were probably more forage than anything. I wonder how that relationship, evident all over the prehistoric world, had on the human psyche.
@michaelfulford6330
@michaelfulford6330 9 ай бұрын
How do you spell the last site you mentioned, the earlier, wooden version of Gobekli Tepe?
@kariannecrysler640
@kariannecrysler640 Жыл бұрын
22:36 Were all the mega animals gone from the region at the time of occupation? The flints seem to be too small for mega game. Just curious ✌️💕🤘🎃
@gregorybiestek3431
@gregorybiestek3431 Жыл бұрын
No - other sources show Mega Fauna still around. However, even during the 18th century which would you rather hunt - a moose 6ft tall & 1400 pounds that can hurt you or a white tail deer -2.8ft tall & 150 pounds? A dozen rabbits or decent size fish in a stew with vegies can easily feed 25 people. Makes sense to go for the easy prey every day & leave the big stuff for once in a great while.
@kariannecrysler640
@kariannecrysler640 Жыл бұрын
@@gregorybiestek3431 I wasn’t specifically sure for that region especially hearing about the larger population. Thank you.
@caroletomlinson5480
@caroletomlinson5480 Жыл бұрын
Rupert, please don’t back off from your practical instincts 💙
@batcollins3714
@batcollins3714 Жыл бұрын
Compared to the 4000 year old tomb at Newgrange outside Dublin in the Irsh Republic, Stonehenge looks like a heap of rubble.
@davidwhite6479
@davidwhite6479 Жыл бұрын
Newgrange was rebuilt quite recently and its current look is basically imagination.
@smillstill
@smillstill 10 ай бұрын
10-15 years ago, with Gobekli Tepe, scholars thought they were no anthropomorphic gods or vague beginnings of it and almost only animals. However, the numerous detailed sculptures of anthropomorphic figures at sites contemporary with Gobekli Tepe open the possibility animal and human-type gods (or ancestor worship) had a transitional period were both existed together around 8500-9000 BCE. It's interesting how human and animal figures are in the same sculptures such as animals on the humans' backs or chests.
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