歌唱教學EP65 - 如何改掉唱歌老腔的習慣?唱老歌的人真的唱不了新歌嗎? | Calvin歌唱小教室

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[@berthawsyiu]

1）舊，吻別。2）.新。3）.新 4）.舊，敢愛敢做。 樂器，音源，音感色澤，律韻，域差距，故仔演繹腔感，電子數碼音樂，混音。唔同。時代轉變問題，雖然我係89Y代人，但包括古典，粵曲，金曲，流行歌，Rock , 藍調，黃調，京劇，歌劇。都喜歡各自的特色。所有都有各自的功能和意義，技巧，一般尚算理解各聲部原理。可是two tone 我還沒有摸得透。想學，但香港有無老師教呢種唱發？ 網上KZbin 片段又不多。一向自研的我被它苦困。

[@jon7086]

我動議 Calvin用舊腔唱一人之境

[@saikinlam3506]

附議

[@percychung]

😂👍🏽

[@mifordlau]

隨著所謂由舊至新派唱法，香港流行歌曲市場也由盛至衰。

[@kenji1633]

說出了重點！👍🏻

[@kamanchoi1887]

另一個重點係2000年起，由英枉打頭陣力捧新人做偶像，唱功未夠班唔緊要，最緊要夠青春夠新鮮感都可以捧到上天，結果20年後再唱live如坐時光機，唱功停留係20年前，一樣唱到走曬音又快斷氣，真係滿滿的回憶😅

[@percychung]

而家仲要出咗啲死唔斷氣+‘’𠼱脷‘’唱腔歌手（例如：有個叫留香瓊嘅獨立歌手） 喺903聽完佢嘅派台歌，齋聽唔睇歌詞嘅話，我完全唔X知佢唱乜X嘢（但係可以上到榜😪），唱得粵語歌，佢連最基本嘅發音都唔正確，咬字更不再話下，啲人話佢唱得好特別，我只係覺得佢不知所謂，嘩眾取寵，標奇立異… 😮‍💨

[@Tsj7473]

由盛至衰都係因為樂迷問題姐, 好多好歌手㗎,但係你哋淨係會話樂壇已死然後繼續唔發掘其他好歌手

[@tchan5256]

​@@Tsj7473認真聽過唔少新歌手, 但好多真係唔入流, 包括一線歌手(唔係講Mirror, 唔開名, 廢時引戰)唱live都經常走音但又好受歡迎, 有時真係好難欣賞得落 有d唔係走偶像路線而有扎實創作同歌唱實力嘅就得唔到足夠注視, 呢d就好可惜 eg 吳林峰

[@RB-zk2vo]

張學友嗰代厚重震音已經唔符合現代審美，用呢種震音唱現代流行曲就會被人覺得油膩

[@rocker80721]

解說的很棒😘😘

[@BrockMak]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/bpfPo6GEaaqcapIsi=zMBRBHntGUq76sc3 即使用「新方法」唱《零時十分》，「新辰」的尾音區別依然要明顯區分

[@BrockMak]

8:27 kzbin.info/www/bejne/mXS3oISuns12jZYsi=U97aRkkZ4ZCkdPGp 除了是當時趨勢，也可能是因為很多歌是從日本歌改編，而震音幅度最明顯的更是日本的演歌，加上受歌劇影響，歌手們用震音加大自身音量，而且誇大的嘴型，令現場坐後排的觀眾聽到和看見。

[@matthewchow0218]

4:16 一聽前奏就知道咩歌😅😅

[@ciacescsong5987]

唔系喔，学友腔唱一人之境ok喔😂可唔可以成首嚟一次

[@pmlpml1010]

很欣賞Calvin sir拍的片。最近看了拉闊音樂會，很想Calvin Sir 講解下 Gin Lee唱 Jay Fung 的《給缺席的人唱首歌》，謝謝！ kzbin.info/www/bejne/h3fSp3SJjtl9l5osi=sc4LNHHmSMP8fjqJ

[@james683683]

震音點可以唔講甄妮姐姐🤣

[@user-lo1yo5fr3p]

震音根本係教壞人，想收尾好聽要唱runs，張敬軒歌大把唔識去聽聽

[@AKcheung-q9c]

我認為老歌和最近新歌嘅分別，就是新歌多了很多真假音轉換已矣。唱歌咬字要清晰，不清晰會影響音準問題，別人聽你唱歌，最重要聽到你唱咩，才有共鸣，加上声靚和感情是最好的，什麼新舊唱法，只要唱得好聽就好。

[@mastzerk9115]

2:38 有一刻以爲又要被rickroll了

[@OscarMa-h8w]

Calvin Sir，請問可唔可以講解下《空心》哩首歌。😁

[@nyn7721]

Calvin哥 可唔可以分析吓張國榮同陳奕迅嘅最冷一天？🙏🏻

[@berthawsyiu]

Kevin sir 真的很好人，講出真相。真心說話。不偏不倚。真心想身邊唱開歌嘅朋友仔，多啲上嚟睇Kevin sir 的KZbin 片。老實說，我相信真的比起他們口中的老師好得多。完全級數不同，真的是用心，用聲音去証明所教的。上來睇一條片至少等於佢哋果啲上3堂。

[@fire1500]

Calvin

[@BingDrums]

Hi Calvin, Recently Jay chou sang 枫 original key at his Melbourne concert. Can you review it

[@forgetfulme1719]

singing tells a story--besides tone and pitch, resonances, vocal range, breath control... expressions/feelings are most critical. How many these HK young singers think they can sing like Whitney Houston, Lady Gaga, Elvis, Elton John, Freddy Mercury, Righteous Brothers... Go win some international talent competitions first before comment on new better than old.

[@as112]

You're 100% correct on that one. The songs before the 2010s focuses on story telling and less conjested of works per line. You can clearly understand the story it's being told since it's straightforward, whereas I find songs nowadays feels too complicated and wordy along with some really bad singing. But Calvin has good technique so I give him a pass on his comments. From my perspective is that a lot of the singers now have a very similar range and voice. So there's no diversity among the singers. Even you we talk about MC being the top singer... I think he's pretty average and I wouldn't be able to tell him apart from someone else if you play two songs together.

[@forgetfulme1719]

@@as112 Thx, Calvin understands vocal techniques well but he likes new "crying' voice/head registers better. Watch Tom Jones singing in The Voice UK. But then again, easy for me to criticize than singing myself. Most of the time, it is a born talent. So many singers are labeled as Kings, Queens, God, Goddess in HK, should listen to aria-- 'Mio Babbino Caro', sung by Holland's 12 years old Amira.

[@as112]

@@forgetfulme1719 I don't full agree with you that you're born with it because you can learn the various technique to help sing better but you can't change the voice and nowaways, a lot of the people have a very similar voice and towards the higher pitch. Not many low pitch male vocalist. I've been trying to listen to some of the new singers in HK and majority of them are not good and their songs are weird especially those trying to do R&B.

[@forgetfulme1719]

@@as112 true, many whispering in head voice or falsetto without breath support. Blues and jazz I can try to imitate but sounds so unnatural and horrible. Even George Lam could not sing at same level as Percy Sledge--When A Man Loves A woman, the scary part is the false belief one is great without ever competing outside HK.

[@36interior]

有沒有成人（中年）學唱歌課程？

[@medio9809]

2024嘉年華演唱會雪梨站 最長的電影 降2key 好正

[@kch2.4]

我覺得蕭敬騰出道期同近期嘅唱腔，就係今集講嘅舊派新派分別，最主要聽到早期係較用腹腔發高音，近期係較用喉頭發高音，甚至自廢武功式嘅撕裂音 😸

[@forgetfulme1719]

agree, many 'new' lacks vocal skills, head voice only.

[@davyzhong3422]

我觉得新歌最多就系真假转换，旧歌就好小

[@forgetfulme1719]

Real good singers' songs last after they are gone, 'new' singers u quoted, come and gone, no one remember their songs 5 years from now.

[@Jason88215]

Ok boomer

[@wendywan118]

Agreed....like Beyond, Leslie Cheung & Anita Mui etc

[@forgetfulme1719]

@@wendywan118 Nowadays singers all like singing in high registers, men sound like women, and women sound like whistle

[@j0sephine852]

舊時許多人認字不多 , 難以閱讀歌詞來了解歌曲內容, 所以舊人咬字會較清晰 所以有時長輩還會笑指:"都唔知依家啲人唱咩" 這只是我一點觀察,

[@medio9809]

周杰倫 原K e y 楓都有omg

[@jimu1534]

震音代表我觉得系肥妈，震到真的。。。

[@MAN-qv9bp]

尖沙咀

[@happyloklam]

乜唔係漏口代表咩？

[@kwl4829]

十幾年前臺灣星光比賽，評審小胖叱問參賽者為甚麼這個年代了還抖甚麼音！

[@vincentleefai]

Calvin, 我是聽四大天王嘅歌長大嘅。 現在好多歌手都喜歡加啲falsetto 落首歌度。

[@BrockMak]

4:19 kzbin.info/www/bejne/b6SWcmmAaZJgr9ksi=7mqInxQ07vL2hCOp 《霧之戀》

[@馬小姐-p2n]

柳應廷現在香港歌手中 真假音我聽最舒服一個 但不是最叻

[@tuenmunki]

2:31 有冇人覺得頭個四粒音寫住「零時十分⋯⋯」

[@lcy5545]

覺！

[@i_am_a_little_gorilla]

Calvin sir，可唔可以講下林宥嘉嘅唱功🙏

[@KT-sf1df]

Hello Calvin 老師，不如講下黃洛妍Janees 「溝渠」❤

[@hksuperman]

唔知點解唱羅文首《家變》嗰陣唔用佢個腔口硬係好似爭少少咁😂🤭

[@hcouthcout4979]

calvin sir係咪整過D牙黎？齊左咁多既

[@graciepeapea]

張學友同李克勤啲震音真係好恐怖，完全震到離行離迾變咗第二個音（我直頭會用走音去形容），超唔順耳，震到你心都慌，難聽死 。 我嗰陣時就已經覺得好難頂 。 都唔明點解嗰種唱法會被追捧咗咁耐。

[@louiswolfx]

我估因為係嗰時唔係人人做到掛。 有人見到呢個歌手震到咁又出名 就會有差不多唱法嘅歌手產生黎迎合市場。一齊都係睇大市場風向。

[@红袖刀]

本身震音就係會比原音低半個音，呢個係常識啦，當時因為係好多日本歌改編，旋律優美但節奏稍稍偏慢，歌詞字數比較少，如果唔做震音，就會好齋。你再聽翻而家d新歌，會發覺歌詞偏多，旋律節奏快左，同埋冇咁多時間做其他野，所以就係咁咯

[@graciepeapea]

@@红袖刀佢地唔止震上下半音 。 聽落好唔自然 。 唱歌劇嗰啲人夠震得勁啦，都唔會俾人呢一種感覺。

[@AbcAbc-o7u]

​@@红袖刀你說出重點，羅文出個一只轉唱腔的專輯。但唔賣得，因聽者覺得怪怪腔。等叫mc唱小李飛刀。

[@ericlau1524]

@@红袖刀是的,認同

[@chengden8695]

震音本身就不是正宗技巧，但现在大部份歌手咬字有懶音唔正、氣息不好和不懂發聲、不可當是現代唱法、根本是唱歌不好的籍口，外國歌手一般不會说現代和舊式

[@angeloyu4106]

周深 人是。什么时候有？😢😢

[@Syman0324]

震到音唔代表唱歌有感情，老派歌手王傑都無震音，一樣感情滿滿

[@forgetfulme1719]

sometimes they think vibrato means more vocal power.

[@MAN-qv9bp]

黎明震到走晒音添

[@forgetfulme1719]

he wants to show his power and sex appeal, good singer can control on and off, according to song;s needed expressions. it is harder to sing straight tone than having his earthquake fluctuations on all pitches.@@MAN-qv9bp

[@TheChinaj555]

郭富城唱腔都似現代

[@yinyeunng8057]

周杰倫原key楓🥹🥰

[@hei9246]

係咪編曲

[@freedomcat1987]

neumann kms104

[@KT-nk8lp]

未睇先留言 其實有好多老一輩歌手 都唔關唱腔事 佢地本身把聲係老派 把聲係天生 冇得變

[@forgetfulme1719]

true, each one unique but the 4 kings very similar, now new singers just mumble, without lyrics shown, do not know what are the words. Listen to Whitney Houston, u can hear every word.

[@jessefung3187]

人老咗把聲會變，而家堆新歌手老咗咪一樣會變老牛聲

[@KT-nk8lp]

@@jessefung3187 年代不同 肥媽25歲同呢個年代既25歲 把聲都好大分別 天生把聲係咁老成 就連個樣都係 以前年代既人老成好多

[@jessefung3187]

@@KT-nk8lp 肥媽係類似黑人大媽嗰種聲，喺華人入面好罕有，你唔應該攞佢做例子。甄妮先係一個好例子，佢後生嘅時候都係少女聲，係老咗先至覺得係老牛聲

[@KT-nk8lp]

@@jessefung3187 肥媽vs欣宜 大家都係鬼婆唱腔 甄妮肥媽杜麗莎佢地果輩 後生果時把聲 同今代都好大分別 只能說佢地有佢地既特色

[@cedricwong1118]

封面放咪嘴歌神？😂

[@andychan9389]

咪嘴？你冇嘢啊

[@Hei_JctL]

又老作