G0602 CNC Conversion pt11 Spindle Encoder

[@TMCmakes]

found your content while researching a CNC g0704 conversion, now i have a pretty strong desire to CNC my 0602 when i'm done! awesome content as always, Rus. thanks for posting it!

[@ElementalMaker]

Awesome work Rus! Should have my cnc g0704 up and running this weekend. Took it apart again to do some modifications that I think you'll really like, I'll get a video of those modifications up asap.

[@RoboCNCnl]

Nice work Rus... ! Always a lot of work goes into parts like this...

[@russtuff]

+RoboCNC Frees- & Graveerwerk Thanks!

[@FuturefabOrgUk]

What a project! Fantastic work Russ. I'll be a regular watcher from here on in!

[@russtuff]

Hey thanks!

[@CNC4XR7]

Great job on the Bracket and Disc, Rus Looks like it does a really good job cutting the threads. Be Safe, Sam

[@russtuff]

+CNC4XR7 Thanks Sam! I'm glad I can finally move on with this machine.

[@CNC4XR7]

+russtuff I know exactly how you feel. Lol.

[@bluehandsvideo]

Very cool! Loved seeing the indexing wheel being cut. :)

[@russtuff]

+bluehandsvideo Thanks!

[@DCT_Aaron_Engineering]

Great work as per usual Rus. Love ya work mate. Aaron

[@russtuff]

+DCTTeacher1 Thanks!

[@noscufftiretool]

I followed your link for the pulse cards and what they are selling now do NOT have a socketed IC on them but it's obvious from you video the ones you purchased a few years back do have a socketed IC. I'm assuming the IC is for de-bouncing the waveform.

[@b3nsb3nz]

no wonder it took you a while to get it setup, you spent some time on that bracket and it is sweet!

[@b3nsb3nz]

+TacticalKeychains maybe I have faster internet...? haha

[@russtuff]

+bensbenz Thanks! I think it turned out pretty nice. This is the third bracket I've made for various sensors/setups.

[@b3nsb3nz]

+TacticalKeychains wow that totally sucks. no cable providers in your area? I pay for business cable so I have no filters or caps, 100 down 50 up for like $130 a month.

[@b3nsb3nz]

+TacticalKeychains haha my main business is IT, I host virtual servers for a few people, I actually make money on internet :).

[@daviddenning4002]

Great info here. I have copied your design and have it close to working. For routing the wires, I removed the upper pulley that is not being used anymore and there is a nice slot in the back plate to run the wires through.

[@russtuff]

Great idea! I hope the plans work for you.

[@jaimevillada9150]

Best regard. Looking at your excellent video, is it not possible to implement both sensors with mach3 or the wheel with multiple slots? Thanks for your attention and reasoned response. Blessings in these difficult times.

[@airgunningyup]

im wondering what the advantages are with optical sensor over hall effect .

[@russtuff]

I might be wrong, but I would expect optical sensors give a shaper edge when changing voltages (more squarer square wave). The best option would be a quadrature encoder, which is what I would use if I ever change my setup (it isn't a big priority right now).

[@airgunningyup]

@@russtuff i believe youre right.. im struggling with getting mach to read my hall signal now so messing with different resistors.might switch to optical in the end

[@Roadstercycle]

Hi Russ, I wonder if you could do a video on how the 2 boards where hooked up so they both work in unison. I'm confused as how this is done. I would like to do this to my mill running mach3. Thank you

[@russtuff]

Hi! It's my understanding that Mach can only handle a single pulse per revolution, and not multiple pulses or sensors. Correct me if I'm wrong. Yes I can do a quick video about it, and I'll put it at the top of my list.

[@robertkutz]

russtuff nice work.

[@russtuff]

+Robert Kutz Thank you :)

[@simonescheggi]

Hi, in Mach3 you can use multipulse,using pulley setup with correct ratio ex. 16 pulse 16:1 mach3 read 16 per revolution

[@russtuff]

Thanks! I did not know Mach supported multi-pulse.

[@tat2joeelliott]

What breakout board are you using?

[@russtuff]

At the time of this video it was a C11 from CNC4PC.

[@GraphicManInnovations]

Good job Rus 1. are you using an lpt port bob on your lathe? 2. what is the max pulse rate an lpt port can take? thanks

[@russtuff]

Thanks! I'm running a C11 from CNC4PC. I'm not familiar with Ipt.

[@vladdaniel864]

hi. nice work on the cnc lathe.btw do you an ideea where to look for feed gear box.thanks

[@russtuff]

Thanks! As for where to get a gear box, maybe from Grizzly directly?

[@vladdaniel864]

Ok. Thanks

[@christophervargasschebesta3752]

Could you please to do a video explain especific how to connect the C3 Pulse Index Card to the breakboard and setting in Mach3. i will help alot of people trying to use a servo like spindle and control it by mach3.

[@russtuff]

I don't use Mach but I might have video about the C3. I'm not using it anymore but I'll see what I can do.

[@christophervargasschebesta3752]

@@russtuff Hello Man, see this video kzbin.info/www/bejne/gXWlfmmEiKpqY5I you know how is he doing?

[@christophervargasschebesta3752]

Hello with a only one sensor not works for treading? I will use mach3

[@chadgdry3938]

nice project, seemed a bit chunky.. but I certainly don't have any of that equipment to make something like this! What is the music you were playing there, not listed in the comments?

[@russtuff]

+Paul Gdry Agreed, chunky is my style. The music is called "Far Away" and is part of the free youtube audio library.

[@chadgdry3938]

free music library you say. how can I find it?

[@aserta]

Not a critique, just an observation. You don't need to jaw hold it. Just get two of those wrenches (or make them, i made two for the reason you'll read) put them opposing to each other on the two nuts and giv'em a squeeze. The nut will loosen up just dandy. I made my own. One is a half moon that goes around the inner nut, the other is a full one that slides over. YMMW since my nuts are bigger (pun not intended) so i can really grip them, the keys being 2cm on the inner one and 1.8 on the outer one, no idea why the difference. Other way i've seen this done, if you don't have two keys is with a dog in the jaws, it's an axial load so no problem there either. The reason i shy away from gripping the jaws is because i keep my lathe clean. That way, if i mess up, i'll see the marks and know to never do that mistake again.

[@russtuff]

+aserta All good methods, thanks for sharing!

[@deimosjuf]

Best regards: Can you tell how you configurate mach 3 for threading?

[@russtuff]

+deimosjuf Nope, sorry. I've never used Mach. I'm LinuxCNC all the way.

[@kermitfrog1897]

The Linuxcnc documentation says that it expects 100 pulses per revolution for spindle speed. How did you get it to work with only 60? Did I miss something?

[@russtuff]

+Kermit Frog you get to choose your pulses per revolution when you are setting it up in LinuxCNC . It's in one of the HAL files I believe. If you go to my vfd video you can find a link to my Dropbox and download my linuxcnc lathe files for comparison.

[@Marvin.Runyon]

PC screws are #6-32. Do you even lift?

[@russtuff]

+MarvinRunyon Yup, and M3 and 4-40.

[@Marvin.Runyon]

4-40 is only for the classic dsub connector screws.

[@russtuff]

Yes yes and DVI connectors, I'm not sure why we're both arguing the same point. I stated they are common in computers, and we've both proven it. Shall we move along?

[@Marvin.Runyon]

No, no, I'm saying it is a stretch to call it a PC screw. At the bar, you would definitely be buying the next round, and wearing the participation ribbon.

[@russtuff]

+MarvinRunyon 👍

[@skorkmaz]

I like your bracket and wheel. Are you using LinuxCNC? Because indexing doesn't work in Mach3 so you must be using LinuxCNC.

[@russtuff]

suat korkmaz Thanks! Yup, LinuxCNC.

[@skorkmaz]

Great. I'm now converting a Sieg C6 lathe to CNC and I have the same c3 board. I think the G0602 and C6's are the same so the shaft of the spindle should the same as well. So I can use your cad models. Thanks.

[@russtuff]

suat korkmaz Sweet! I'd be curious to know if it works.

[@skorkmaz]

Too bad that I can not open the .step file in SolidWorks 2016. Would you mind converting it to .dxf please?

[@russtuff]

I tried, but Fusion doesn't give me an option to export to .dxf :(

[@AnwarAlfaqeehAlhusseini]

hi where do wiring the encoder ?

[@russtuff]

+Anwar Alfaqeeh Alhusseini Are you using the C3 pulse index cards? If it you'll need to check the spec sheet for your sensors. Are you wiring straight to your breakout board?

[@AnwarAlfaqeehAlhusseini]

no am not using any thing yet >>>i want to understand this conversion before start >>thats why i am asking >. thanks

[@russtuff]

+Anwar Alfaqeeh Alhusseini OK. There will likely be 3 or 4 pins on whatever sensor you choose and you'll just hook it up per the data sheet. One or two pins get voltage, one gets ground, and one is the signal you send to your board. I can do a video for you when I get my cabinet wired back up but I don't know when that will be.

[@AnwarAlfaqeehAlhusseini]

my board you ....mean my mach3 bord or C3 pulse index cards

[@russtuff]

+Anwar Alfaqeeh Alhusseini If you use the C3 then the sensor comes with it, plus instructions. Then you just need one wire from the C3 to your Breakout Board.

[@SOCOLVN]

Great project !!!!!! Was that designed on Fusion ?

[@russtuff]

+SOCOLVN Thanks! Yes it was.

[@russtuff]

+SOCOLVN I saw that, he's awesome at gear making.

[@grupinfractionalorganizatp5003]

you made a complicate lathe . for me -the manual command remaining more easy . something to do with electronics sensors -safety stop in approach area -something to stop the machine if you try to touch accidental the rotate piece.

[@EmperorDevilhunter]

With another sensor you could have added rigid tapping

[@russtuff]

+EmperorDevilhunter Agreed. If I had more available inputs on the breakout board I would have gone that way.

[@danielkitson6878]

hi russ, nice video, please can you start the linuxcnc guild as i am sure we are all waiting for it, thanks daniel

[@russtuff]

+Daniel Kitson Hey! I know, I'm just not happy with them and keep debating redoing them. I need to get after it.

[@بحرالهادئ-ذ2ب]

جميل