Gaijin's Brilliant Idea To Downtier One Of The Most Overpowered Vehicles In The Game - He-100D

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[@HalcyonSkies]

Between this and the Ki-100, I think Gaijin just likes planes with 100 in the name.

[@bornonthebattlefront4883]

And the XP-50, which 100 is divisible by 2 by

[@HalcyonSkies]

@@bornonthebattlefront4883 Aha, we've got them now those devious jerks.

[@reinbeers5322]

Shhhh don't tell anyone about the Ki100, it is japan air's best kept secret

[@Edgazx]

@@reinbeers5322 lmao

[@molstad182]

@@reinbeers5322 the question is what is the better jap plane for br, ki-100, or J2M2

[@XDSane]

When He-100 was introduced, I was playing squadron battles a lot. Jokingly I said to my friend "there is a new plane in the game, I think, it's new meta for 6.7". We started a duel, my friend didn't know anything about He-100, so he chose to fly Spit.Mk24, since I said "new 6.7 meta". He struggled to kill me for 10 minutes in one round. He tried dogfighting, energy trapping, running away. But He-100 kept pace with Spit. He won only when he realized that my guns don't do any damage, so he just started to commit to riskiest manoeuvres and finaly took me down in a head on.

[@SergeyTaboritski]

lmaoo

[@Gl1tchman]

All due respect but i think this one is on your friend 😭

[@thomaskositzki9424]

I can only repeat my theory on BR changes: At Gaijin HQ there is a box with all names of vehicles on small, folded pieces of paper. At the beginning of the month, someone pulls a handfull out and divides them equally. One half gets a 0.3 BR increase, the other a decrease. Then staff unfolds the papers and sees which vehicles are affected. :P :D

[@obsidianjane4413]

That would be about as effective as what they do with reading statistical tea leaves...

[@blacktiger974]

It is unfathomable that there are people who will absolutely defend the He-100's BR placement.

[@kamilszelezin3053]

Those are the ones who are using this plane as a turnfighter.

[@crispy_338]

I’ll defend it’s BR because I can seal club mercilessly 😂

[@K0MMyHuCT]

Yes, I do like comfort sealclubbers I can always come back to, turn my brain off and blow off some steam and yes, I do think it's a shame the Japanese F4U-1A and Bf 109 E-7 went 0.7 up.

[@celica825]

@KOMMyHuCT get the russian P-39N whenever it goes on sale again if you don't already have it, absolutely ridiculous plane at 3.0, my main event grinder.

[@K0MMyHuCT]

@@celica825 Yeah, wanted to get it since DEFYN's video on the Bf 109 F-1 from about a year ago where he went up against one but it didn't go on sale last year for whatever reason.

[@ABalazs074]

I always underestimate D's ability to insult absolutely everybody else in just a couple of sentences. Gg, sir, well played.

[@derkaiser9881]

Morko Morraine is still 2.0 with an MG151 and great flight performance. It's kinda hilarious.

[@moriartyholmes8172]

Good to see Gaijin learned absolutely nothing back when the cw-21 was at this BR

[@masonharkness6437]

I’ve only been playing for a year now but damn that must’ve been just straight murder with that br 😂💀

[@HRCSJSUAMMAS]

@@masonharkness6437 It was really something... Not to mention for the longest time the wings on the CW-21 were unbreakable so you could use them as murder scythes basically. Oh and when they released the cannon Ki-44 it had the same flight performance as the regular Ki-44. That too was really something. Lots of shredding off all four biplane wings at once.

[@funbro99]

Guilty pleasure to fly. Its a porsche strapped with 2 c96 mausers and made me fall in love with the fw190.

[@DeffinitlyNotFBI]

This thing has smootbrain pilots eating machine gun rounds and then not returning to base burning out the engine, it's such a good plane

[@Jaguara333]

"A lot of guys in this community are not as credible as they would like you to think". Very diplomatically put, and very true.

[@kingghidorah8106]

gaijin sucks more at balancing the game than me playing it 💀

[@josippetkovic389]

yes

[@kingghidorah8106]

@@josippetkovic389 hello fluffy 😳🤣

[@perferre346]

Debatable

[@kingghidorah8106]

@@perferre346 yeah no, gaijin balances worse than me playing rb

[@rainsilent]

Gaijin has given balancing to the player base and the player base doesn't give a s%*t about actually balancing the vehicles. Gaijin gave the player base the ability because when Gaijin tried to balance in the past the player base would complain no matter what so Gaijin more or less said, "Fine, you do it."

[@celica825]

Sometimes when I play with friends I'll take this out into higher tier battles. Little thing can hold its own even at 4.0, other than the guns of course

[@loljk_vid]

This youtube channel has finally come full circle, no longer is it about playing an aeriel combat video game, it is about revisiting uncle induced PTSD. Thanks guys!

[@vermillion4971]

a little tip how to cool your engine - just turn it off for a few seconds and start again, temps will drop dramatically and the heat capacity of system will reset so it will again become longer to heat the entire cooling system of an engine, long time no playing so i hope this hint still works

[@hunormagyar1843]

That sounds ridiculous and hilarious, because in WT it might just work.

[@smigoltime]

I wouldn't say overpowered, especially now that the 7.92s aren't insane. But, still it's an amazing aircraft and one of my all time favourites, wish we got the 20mm version some day :D

[@iank6897]

What belts for the 7.92s sensei?

[@kingghidorah8106]

@@iank6897 None, straight up ramming people

[@smigoltime]

@@iank6897 stealth or uni for me

[@kingghidorah8106]

@@smigoltime stealth ammo, the "hacker" trick!

[@HRCSJSUAMMAS]

@@iank6897 tracers

[@Oookkaa]

No this plane is quite balanced at this BR because I've been killed many times by bi-planes and lvl 6 players in the He-100. They used tactics this plane cannot counter -- they were on my team and teamkilled me during takeoff at the airfield.

[@HRCSJSUAMMAS]

Airspawning teamkilling P38s and A6M2-Ns are my favorite. OOOO and the same thing but with bomber's rear gunners. And the rocket guys, don't forget the rocket guys.

[@TeenWithACarrotIDK]

Lol

[@danielmostert993]

Nostalgia hits like a freight train with this one. One of the first props that I truly enjoyed playing. This and the 109b were my favourites for quite some time. I do not play anything below rank 6 anymore. Partly because Rank 5 is where my skills are weakest and partly because rank 4 and below usually is not as challenging anymore. I spent several years grinding different tech trees to the first jets. So I started focusing on jets exclusively. And I got addicted to the speed of jets.

[@dragoontype00alphaz19]

I have that trouble im to use to speed of F104J and F4ej and mig 21MF Mig23 so on going back to bf109 or Zeros feels like im standing still plus being able engage enemy from miles out got me in bit of a pickle and forgetting have to actually watch my speed

[@eklhaft4531]

109 F please and stuka D5

[@ilondon5638]

1.7 is crazy for this. Im playing it rn.... it goes 500+ in a straight line LMFAO

[@okmeneer9583]

The plane was designed for speed

[@idrag7]

Congratulations on 70k dude! Keep up the great work!

[@John.McMillan]

I saw this the other day, decided to play a few games in it. Thing is practically a god level plane when it's at its BR and a downtier. It is even competative at 4.0. Personally I think 2.7 or 3.0 would be a good BR for this. At a max uptier of 3.7-4.0 it would be pretty mid, but at a downtier to 1.7-2.0 it would be very good. Seems like the best balancing that can be done for it with the bad BR compression.

[@rainsilent]

BR compression isn't bad at all in props. The He-100 would be fine at 3.3-3.7. What is bad in props is aircraft at BRs that they shouldn't be at. The 109F-1 is the exact same as the F-2 yet sits at a lower BR despite having the better cannon for air combat. The F-1 needs to go to the same BR that the F-2 is at. The P-39N is a darn near spitting image performance wise relative to the Yak-3 with significantly better dive characteristics but worse guns yet the two aircraft can't actually see each other in game because they are so far apart in BR. I could easily go on.

[@furretthefuzzynoodle3896]

The issue is that it’s guns SUCK

[@HRCSJSUAMMAS]

@@rainsilent There's no way the P-39N is on the same level as the Yak3, although I'm certain it dives better.

[@twddersharkmarine7774]

@@HRCSJSUAMMAS one thing for certain, P-39N's are bloody terrifying to fight, absolute cancer to fight when you already trying to deal with something else, i must say it would rank 2nd to the A6M's (all variants) if i have to rate which is most cancerous

[@rainsilent]

@@HRCSJSUAMMAS It is. Similar climb, turn and level flight speed.

[@D_U_N_E]

I heard people talk about this saying about how full uptiers make it useless, and I always thought that was a bit cap. I like planes that keep a speed advantage for most, if not a full BR - mainly since I am bad and speed is the easiest advantage to work around if you are bad. This felt like the best low tier plane, and when it went lower - like what the fuck?

[@Lorbera]

I remember when this plane was added. It’s insane.

[@namelamus8476]

please play f8f-1, recently moved to 5.0 i would love to see how it performs in good hands

[@maximilianmustermann1278]

Its cooling system is very fragile. Its was made to have as little of air resistance as possible, and the designers chose a vapor cooling system. The water vaporized, the steam got sent through the wings and condensated. Due to the low air resistance it could fly extremely fast, but its cooling system couldnt handle more powerful engines (it wouldve been unable to cool them, it was basically working at its limit with the db601 already) and even a single hit couldve meant death to it. Thats provably why it wasnt accepted by the rlm. It was basically only made to be fast, any hit was lethal and it wasnt upgradable without serious desing changes. Interesting and good plane, but not meant to fight

[@rainsilent]

Problem is that the He-100D in game isn't the actual He-100D. The actual He-100D had a standard cooling system like the BF-109 did. It also had either a 15mm MG151 or 20mm MG/FF motor cannon.

[@torlekjpec5708]

Normally watch your instruction videos. Glad I watched this you made me laugh a bunch.

[@tungsten6474]

Hey DEFYN, could you try out the MiG-17AS? I bought it a while ago and never played it, but I’ve been having a ton of fun dogfighting with it.

[@dennisv3435]

Honestly one of the best premiums you can get for the experience and value imho

[@jacobdonnely2608]

Classic video, love the He-100D. Only thing I would love more would be some yak-9P gameplay.

[@gitgood8509]

Another Yak-9P enjoyer i see. Well, Defyn refused to do it before, cuz 9U exist, so we gonna sit here for a while.

[@jacobdonnely2608]

@@gitgood8509 As a fellow yak-9P enjoyer i'm sure you understand what inane heresy this is. Join me in my righteous cause and petition Defyn on all his new prop plane videos for yak-9P gameplay.

[@gitgood8509]

@@jacobdonnely2608 Insane heresy is keeping heavier plane with slightly less engine power and arguably similar armament not only at higher BR, but also at the cursed 5.0 mark.

[@kingghidorah8106]

@@gitgood8509 9p is funnier because it can one shot snipe people from 1km away, it also can boom and zoom properly up to 720 IAS, its just ugh it doesn't perform as good as the 9u. Yak 9UT is horsedung.

[@gitgood8509]

@@kingghidorah8106 Biggest downside of 9P is its BR, poor thing constantly gets full uptier into F2G, LF Mk9 and so on

[@nikimeena8960]

Yo was wondering how do you make you're cursor go to the place you are looking while using free look? Mine goes back to the place It was at prior to using free look (sorry kinda new to the game so it's a noob question)

[@Betto_333]

SPEEEEEEEEEEED

[@torindechoza7266]

11:50 The guy has "the old guard", sweatballs

[@garl2000]

Finally a review about my favourite plane :DDD

[@Richwiking318]

Thanks for reminding me to exploit this masterclass move from Gaijin

[@BushWookie43]

i recomend using the stealth belts if u can, makes it function better for setting fires and damaging engine and oil

[@kimjanek646]

Don’t think 2/5 AI is better than 1/2 API+AI 🤔

[@TheFirstOfMany219]

you should do a video on the i-185(m71) absolute blast of a plane

[@Mysteres78979]

Can you possibly try a video on the Sa'ar or other super mystères and see if it still holds up at the new BR changes? Same for Mystères IVA

[@irithylloldman6526]

Your description at 10 minutes sounds like this is the Milan of 2.0

[@ollyclass]

Bruh this plane would be fine at 2.7 I fly this when I'm annoyed at 8.0 when my vampire flies over 200kmph slower than everyone else so I fly the plane that's 200kmph faster than everyone else.

[@craigwilson9946]

I l9ve he fact that there are some planes at a low br where I can just shut down and enjoy getting a high score every match. But then again I do find myself chosing more meme vehicles like the po2m or cannon stuka just so I don't feel quite as bad playing against people with either none or minimal experience

[@HRCSJSUAMMAS]

Should do the 40mm hurricane ^-^

[@craigwilson9946]

@@HRCSJSUAMMAS that's a really fun one, just starting to get the hang of the ki 109 with a 75mm main gun 😁

[@zawadlttv]

and now the delay before the tickets bleed because of inactivity is 40 seconds, which means that with a stock crew your repair time is not enough to be able to win a match when you are the last person left

[@jaredflynn3750]

I'm a pretty casual player of warthunder and I only play in vr so this is hands down my favorite plane to fly boom and zoom feels like the best way to play in vr.

[@julzgettinstronger9669]

I like how you said "still" labotomized. 😅

[@sakwa2944]

When I saw this I was like… bruh the most OP vehicle just got even more OP

[@Misha_The_Tovarish]

Defyn if it werent for your content i would still be getting 2 kills per game max through head ons only. Thank you so much man

[@harithmuller1024]

I've been watching your vids for a while and noticed that you sometimes loiter around your side of the map and wait for enemies that were above you to dive down and shed their altitude like you mentioned near the end of this vid. My question is this. Say you're flying a slow plane that doesn't like getting BnZ'ed, like an A6M2. You're climbing in at the start. But then you spot like a two man squad of 109s with altitude on you. Would you turn around and wait for them to dive away, or still try to move in with your team and try win the team fight instead of trying to carry? I struggle a lot with this because I never seem to secure a position as the highest plane, and am not confident at dogfighting 1 on 1. Sorry for the long question

[@ncsteampunk]

basically the he162 of 1.7

[@chamusa4458]

But the he162 is garbage

[@chamusa4458]

The he 100 is most definitely not garbage

[@kingghidorah8106]

he162' main strength is tanking ammo and outrunning spitfires.

[@blacktiger974]

@@kingghidorah8106 also being an annoying, tiny target

[@ncsteampunk]

@@chamusa4458 for someone who doesnt know its best use...yes

[@vassowned7768]

Sounds like i gotta get this plane

[@gearz2570]

i know im late, but gunners have a weird bug recently they can shoot through the plane, my ki67 20mm does that

[@Juanroahanda]

I love going back to biplanes. It feels bad, it probably is bad, but the chaos is too much fun.

[@diverr69]

I’m stupid, can someone explain to me what “vertical targeting” is? I’ve played for a year and have no idea.

[@arilagi]

Thank you finaly you play it, i dream of it to this day, and finally, u make it into reality

[@duncanmcgee13]

Its OP AF.....until your wings get scratched

[@jercki72]

ah yes, the flying heat exchanger

[@jackmiller8851]

just played 3 games with it, got 8 kills one death. planes like this are why i love props - i'm not good enough to avoid missiles in tier 6-7+, but i'm very good with guns and slow plane positioning. i agree though, this is absolutely broken as all hell. even more broken than my beloved I-153P with which i can pretty much guarantee 3 kills every single game if i position right. new favourite !!!

[@callemtheone7925]

So this is why I see so many of these with my 1.7 Catalina

[@GeReapeters]

The best plane of all the German first tier planes. It is unique and I simply love it

[@BambooPill]

the He-100 is very easy access + it's not too noob friendly(when everyone is in a biplane) I guess that's why it's going down in br

[@HRCSJSUAMMAS]

Easy to turn and die vs just about anything. Of course then raising the BR would buff it even for the noobs because it would actually outturn some things...

[@mirikoi]

what are the best low tier planes ?(some overpowered planes)

[@notsoracistraspberry4168]

You really nailed it when you said that some people might as well go play Cookie clicker.

[@GraemeDJ]

I came here for the Uncle jokes but surprise- I was in the 2nd match =bonus

[@shiviree]

Yo defyn can u bring the duels back maybe p51h vs mk24

[@jeffraider]

What decal is this red one? It looks awesome especially with the underside red

[@frostedbutts4340]

It's a combo of 2? decals from 'Axis Aircraft'

[@jeffraider]

@@frostedbutts4340 Thanks!!

[@rmlittorio8662]

it has drag-free vapour cooling under its skin, unlike radiators that stick out. unfortunately the whole plane is a radiator hit box

[@pedromedeiros4955]

So this thing is kinda like the wyvern of the Br, faster than planes that are 2 battle rattings above, with the difference that unlike the wyvern, this thing doesn't lose ALL its speed when turns. Also, can you make a video on the Sea Fury FB11? im quite enjoying that thing and its another plane good for learning energy fighting because It doesn't turn but It has decent top speed.

[@reinbeers5322]

Unlike the He100 the Wyvern has extremely goo guns lol

[@pedromedeiros4955]

@@reinbeers5322 forgot that as well.

[@Oliepolie]

What goes on at Gaijan headquarters where some more required updates only come along with ridiculous br and balance changes is a complete mystery

[@karimsonsafehold9233]

This is that plane camping the spawn and boom zooming in god mod 5 kills usually

[@pastek6598]

First type of player enchanted me

[@AirsoftFaction]

This plane is here to strike Fear in the Timmy slayers that play 4k games in the i15 exclusively.

[@bpmgaming3351]

If you're a new player, please try to stick out the pain. It can be absolute torture, especially if you go from arcade to realistic battles. The pain is worth it tho when you actually do well in a match, or notice that you're starting to play your strengths better. I currently fly the F-5C, which is a BR 10.3 in realistic air battles, or 10.0 in arcade. I wouldn't recommend going straight into that, as it will be overwhelming. I didn't buy it until well after 400 hours in game, and I was still thrown for a loop with how much of a learning curve it is from rank 5 jets around 7.7-8.0 BR. Anyway, have fun with it and be patient!

[@MZIH]

The he 100 has guns I can work with even at 2.0-3.0 matches. It shouldnt be moved down

[@HRCSJSUAMMAS]

2.0 is a good minimum, I think it'd be fine at 2.3.

[@bencebarta6918]

I am guilty of using this to feel better sometimes. My main is the MIG-15bis which I love, but when my crew is unavailable after a bad game I jump in the 100D and absolutely dump my bowel contents on poor 1.0 newbies. Yes I cause PTSD. Yes I also received the same PTSD when I was a 1.0 newbie.

[@bezimienny_andzej6425]

Ki-44-II Otsu with 2x12,7mm which are actually 20mm cannons (seriously, they are insanely good) and 2 40mm potato launchers (those are useless) sits at what, 3.0 while outclimbing, outrunning, outturning and outdiving basically anything it can meet.

[@bulbusarues]

Meanwhile the Ki-44-I with a slightly lower top speed, an arguably better armament, a 16 second turn time, and nearly 22m/s of climb at 2.7

[@bezimienny_andzej6425]

@@bulbusarues Well, the top speed of Ki-44-II is actually way higher than 605km/h in the statcard. At 5000m it can go 618km/h and since optimal alt is probably indeed 5200, 620km/h is possible. Ki-44-I probably won't go faster than 576km/h. At sea level difference is huge - 503 vs 546km/h. And engine power difference is quite big also Ki-44-II has 2 supercharger gears so it has has more stable power output on top of having noticeably more horsepower - which is the main cause of the speed difference at 0-1500m range (which is a very important range for this game). What's interesting is, at 3000m they are equally fast, because that's the "bad spot" for Ki-44-II supercharger (basically that's the gear switch alt) while it's almost best alt for Ki-44-I supercharger. Does that make Ki-44-I bad? Not at all. But Ki-44-II Otsu is a performance monster and the 0.3 BR difference does not really reflect the performance gap, which is way bigger than between f.e. Bf 109 F4 vs Bf 109 G10. :)

[@rainsilent]

@@bulbusarues Don't use the stat cards. The turn time and climb rate is wrong on every aircraft. The speed is wrong on around half of them too.

[@martijn9568]

@Richard Armour It's usually not wrong, but only correct for a specific weight and temperature. Statcards could be useful, if you know how to read them.

[@rainsilent]

@@martijn9568 There are a number of props where, no matter the fuel load, the turn time nor climb rate do not match. The stats presented are completely useless as a result. Yes, I am aware that someone in the forums has found that, for the most part, they are within an error of about 5% of the aircraft with full fuel in regards to climb rate but that still presents a sizable error and, as I said above, there are still a number of aircraft where it is still not close. So again, they are useless.

[@DaisiesTC]

They really should just give the He-100 the 20mm it was supposed to have and then put it at 4.0 (or even higher, the thing is a beast with really the only downside being it can't take a hit). The D variant never reached the point that they got to put its proper armament on it, but early test variants did have cannons mounted on them (I think V5 or something) and they planned for the D to have cannons before German Air Command lost interest and focus shifted to just propaganda/breaking speed records with it instead. It's not like Gaijin is opposed to adding paper vehicles (some of which weren't even /conceptually/ a thing lmao).

[@moldypotato4656]

The flight performance for the BR is insane but I really can't get behind the shitty 7.92mm mgs. Its a BnZer but the guns are so anemic that you need multiple passes or you need to spend a few seconds dumping 300 rounds into the enemy to kill them.

[@iansysoev9462]

Defyn, can you if possible do BF-109Z?

[@Nnexxxx]

@DEFYN - Then there's the fifth group of players, level 100's who go in here and there and absolutely curb stomp beginners to make content or have an easy game

[@jeova0sanctus0unus]

ok, but at this point, they are clearly just fucking with us

[@lexmen1089]

Trust me, learning to use planes in War Thunder is the best way to do it, since you pass that down to any game you play. The same with playing in FPS; that translates very well in many games, which is funny cuz i learned how to paly FPSs in a roblox game lol.

[@CptPandy-tj9ty]

Wasn't it at 2.0? And I'd like to see them add the he100 with a 20mm and maybe make that 2.7

[@frostedbutts4340]

I don't think that version was ever built.

[@CptPandy-tj9ty]

@@frostedbutts4340 I think it was the D-0 that had the 20mm and we have the D-1 in game. There's a lot of different prototypes for the He-100 honestly

[@randomuser5443]

It was at 1.7 years ago and it was super unfair

[@stiliangeorgiev8771]

I got 4 kills with it yesterday against 4-5 rated planes lol.

[@dwd2204]

0:43 look at the chat 💀💀💀💀

[@DerangedResponse]

First the XP-50. Now this.

[@stalker5299]

man i remember even at 2.0 i was winning against mig-15s and sabres when i uptiered it with my friends, it's such a good plane when you know it

[@anigamh102]

you can up tier with prop plane to jet How ?

[@anhex.5747]

@@anigamh102ground rb

[@stalker5299]

@@anigamh102 had a friend play with a mig so it'd go up to that br in air rb

[@anigamh102]

@@stalker5299 only in ground rb

[@stalker5299]

@@anigamh102 no, in planes it takes the br of the highest plane in the squad, otherwise you'd see mig-23s against ww2 props lol

[@rasec017g2]

How about a vídeo about the Ki 87? The guns on that thing are scare af

[@DEFYN]

I have and won't again

[@rasec017g2]

@@DEFYN HAHAHHAHA alright, will take a look at it. Thanks

[@Dinoclj]

I love playing this plane it's my favorite in the game, but 1.7 is abhorred 2.0 at least, maybe even 2.3 it can still dominate at those battle ratings, at least in arcade.

[@christof1192]

The 7.7 mm guns are absolute pain if you want to destroy the engines of an other plane

[@Philliben1991]

This goes up against reserves bi-planes and is about 200mph faster.

[@albertogiavani75]

Mig3 15 was the worst offender imho I have some footage of when it was 1.7 IT WAS FUCKINNG AMAZING AND LOVELY, always being above people and chasing behind bombers in cockpit view destroying bomber engines

[@Radju22]

Hey Defyn, I wonder, how still you dont have mig17as on your channel?

[@SkinkUA]

This is so good

[@kev_floridaman]

This plane is so OP I had a 10kills game in it

[@FullSweatTryhard]

*_@ _**_1:14_**_ I resemble that remark_* 😡

[@Flayrr872]

"The Nightmare Plane For Beginners"

[@sparkling925]

this along side the japanese 109 and the corsair is just a bully weapon for sweatty lvl 100s

[@notfunny3397]

Defyn abusing me brings back the best memories in my life

[@alexisleskinen9870]

Imagine this with three 15mms with its hvap rounds. Mmmmmm.

[@_GODSFIGHTER]

It's basically the german cw21. Not saying performance wise mostly but because they both are at such low brs where they shouldn't be

[@sam8742]

So you're responsible for me killing teams worth of them with my hurricane!

[@ActuallyNotIlmatar]

So have we just found out how you maintain your 2.0 K/D Defyn? ;)

[@DEFYN]

Too high for me

[@ninjalanternshark1508]

The Lobotomizer