Gama Goat vs. MB Unimog (Offroadpark Langenaltheim | Germany)

[@ulfsucker7019]

I had some 404 Unimog and I had a goat... With good tires the M561 is unbeatable. There is no other wheel based vehicle with such good offroad qualities ;-)

[@flight2k5]

Nope. Unimog is far superior.

[@Dimythios]

I agree with you. You have to have the right tires to make the goat shine.

[@REDBEARDOFFROAD]

Thx a lot for watchin. Regards from Germany.

[@karlk6860]

Pretty neat vid and you guys are correct to a degree the air pressure was way to high on the Goat but he still was using NDCC military tires, for there being usable on many different surfaces, truth is they pretty much STINK equally on ALL surfaces! The Mog had a nice set of skins on it but its only 4 wheel drive compared to 6 wheel drive on the Goat. I have a Unimog 1300L and I absolutely Love the Unimog way of approaching problems, it always works! Between these two rigs the Goad setup with proper tires would outclimb the Mog, Deep water? remember the Goat is amphibious, YES it floats, Mogs dont float well at all. With that saidif you have ever driven a Goat and sat beside that little 3 cylinder SCREAMING Detroit engine I guarantee you would almost choose ANYTHING else to drive! Karl

[@goober239]

I have no idea why the military used those tires. They sucked in every applied vehicle, not just the goat. The deuce, 5 ton, 8 ton, jeep, front loaders, forklifts, and early Humvees. Swap those tires for better tread and the Goat would be neck and neck to the unimog. You probably know better than most the unimog is hard to beat!

[@1966cambo]

I would like to see a Goat with newer tires out climb a Unimog, I doubt it would ever happen. First and only reason.....LOCKERS! the Goat has open diffs so really only 3 wheel drive

[@REDBEARDOFFROAD]

Thx a lot for watchin. Regards from Germany.

[@chrisripplinger]

Should be titled, "Which grips better: Mud terrains or inner tubes?"

[@REDBEARDOFFROAD]

You are right. ;-)

[@lanceroark6386]

Or, which vehicle gets farther up the muddy hill, the one that goes slow, or the one that goes fast?

[@NikolajHansen]

Goat needs better tires

[@elveezultraTECH]

+Nikolaj Hansen less air inside...

[@waynepickhardt4975]

Absolutely, the Goat was at a disadvantage with the BS military baloney skins.

[@REDBEARDOFFROAD]

Yes, maybe...

[@fastst1]

Call it a win for the Gammagoat just based on the audio track alone, go Jimmy go!

[@REDBEARDOFFROAD]

Thx a lot for watchin. Regards from Germany.

[@hankcox2405]

Traction is everything in mud,unimog had decent treads Gama, slicks!

[@REDBEARDOFFROAD]

Absolutely...

[@MrAristes]

Cool video, I enjoyed it! Thank you from the US!

[@REDBEARDOFFROAD]

Thank you so much. Regards from Germany.

[@fatcatt3981]

I would go with the Unimog but the Gammagoat would be great to. Looks like a great place to play.

[@REDBEARDOFFROAD]

the best of Anapolis Yes it is a great Place for legal play with our toys. I also would take the UNIMOG. This BEAST is awesome. Thanks for watching. Regards from Germany.

[@haraldgundersson1456]

Wie wäre es beim Gamma mal mit ordentlicher Bereifung ? Bei den Straßenschlappen hilft auch n 6x6 nichts wie man unschwer erkennt.

[@REDBEARDOFFROAD]

Ja, das wäre eine Option...

[@ericbrammer2245]

O.K,. I'm a Mog fan, ever since the early 80's, when I saw one used at a local VT ski hill as an ad-hoc groomer (their Tucker broke down). But, at 2:49, I see that the Goat's tires are WAY over-inflated for mud crawling! Why? It should have on-board Air; Did you not know how to use that, or were you unwilling to lower the tire pressures? The Goat can climb, and climb well, but it has a lighter footprint IF the tires aren't hard.

[@REDBEARDOFFROAD]

+ERIC BRAMMER Hi Eric, I think the owner/driver did not know that or was too lazy to do that. By the way, it was not a serious competition. :-) Regards from Germany...

[@mohammedmeqdadi6360]

nothing beats a unimog

[@REDBEARDOFFROAD]

I think so too ;-) Regards.

[@njc110381]

That GammaGoat would have done much better if it had decent tyres. The Unimog is great off road but had it been on the same tyres I expect it would have struggled just as much.

[@REDBEARDOFFROAD]

You are right... Ha Ha. He forgott to reduce the air-pressure of the tires. Maybe next time...

[@americanrepair]

Non directional tires= No traction in any direction

[@REDBEARDOFFROAD]

YES. Thx for your comment. Regards from Germany.

[@PREPPERLEPER]

GREAT VIDEO.PLEASE CAN YOU TELL ME WHERE I CAN BUY A 411 UNIMOG? I HAVE BEEN LOOKING for YEARS NOW. THANKS FOR EVERY HELP

[@REDBEARDOFFROAD]

Sorry. No, I have no Idea. I think you can get one in Germany...

[@78a67h]

Do not forget the lockers on the Unimog, not available to the Goat.

[@JD-zc8pu]

+78a67h Not available

[@kkapalle]

the American is simple cheap technic

[@REDBEARDOFFROAD]

Thx a lot for watchin. Regards from Germany.

[@jmarti1958]

I love the Unimog but more aggressive tires on the goat would make them about even, the goat can float also.

[@REDBEARDOFFROAD]

I think so too...

[@timothyprice9064]

It shows how well the goat was designed if a 60-year-old truck competes with a new one today. Put some better tires on the goat It'll climb the hill with no problem.

[@REDBEARDOFFROAD]

Yeah. For sure. Regards from Germany.

[@timothyprice9064]

@@REDBEARDOFFROAD I was at McNair Kaserne in Frankfurt 85 to 88.

[@lytken]

why is the got driving on tires that are almost no thread on that is so stupid

[@REDBEARDOFFROAD]

+lytken Dude. You are right. Keep calm. It was not a real challenge. I love the GammaGoat as well.

[@lytken]

LOL i am calm :D and i love the Unimog more ;)

[@REDBEARDOFFROAD]

HAHA, ok. Enjoy. Regards from good old Germany.

[@lytken]

;)

[@totalitaer.]

+lytken How could Germans otherwise prove that their stuff iz ze bezt Stuff off ze Worlt?

[@V2FRANK]

I've Seen a 406 Agrar (Forrest) helping a GammaGoat out of the Mud and afterwods Playing around in Even that Mud... Gama Goat can float and take Hills down... (Long) but I Realy thougt it Coup more.

[@REDBEARDOFFROAD]

Thx a lot for watchin. Regards from Germany.

[@oliverraupp6440]

Seems the goat has No lockeres. And Not the best tires and pressure. But an interesting concept, thats no question.

[@REDBEARDOFFROAD]

Yeah. Nice rig.

[@sylvester63000]

one word.....tires

[@REDBEARDOFFROAD]

YES! I agree. And tire pressure...

[@juergen07091973]

Tires. First optimization for offroad is tires. Then comes tires. And then..... Tires. And then comes Diff lockers and so on. But the most important thing are optimal tires. These army profile on the Gama goat, I know them from the deuce, are by far not the best choice for offroad.

[@REDBEARDOFFROAD]

Yes, I agree.

[@erickoch4243]

articulation and tread ... win , but honestly this wasn't a fair match two completely different approaches to different tasks

[@REDBEARDOFFROAD]

Thx a lot for watchin. Regards from Germany.

[@diegoalejandro64]

gammagoat needs better tires

[@REDBEARDOFFROAD]

diegoalejandro64 Yes, you are right or low pressure...

[@diegoalejandro64]

yes I agreed. low pressure would it increased the traction.

[@jackdaniels7913]

Need some real tiers on that goat 😂 🥃cheers🍻

[@jackdaniels7913]

Ps. Let's see the unimog swim 😜

[@REDBEARDOFFROAD]

For sure. HAHA.

[@REDBEARDOFFROAD]

HAHA. Nice idea...

[@Dimythios]

Yea this was a unfair comparison. Wrong tires on the Gamma Goat. The Irony of all of this that the original concept of the Gamma goat was far more lighter, and used a different engine design that successfully done its trials.

[@REDBEARDOFFROAD]

Thx for your comment.

[@davidmoss6791]

The guy does not know how to drive his goat!!! This is too sad to watch.

[@REDBEARDOFFROAD]

He is still learning…

[@toshmiller5571]

Air pressure needs lowered in goat

[@REDBEARDOFFROAD]

Yes.

[@bestamerica]

' how how trailer with 2 wheel drives from the front driver

[@REDBEARDOFFROAD]

Thx a lot for watchin. Regards from Germany.

[@dailyblackbook]

The Goat driver has no idea how to drive a goat.

[@REDBEARDOFFROAD]

Maybe he is not a profession, but an enthusiast...

[@mfree80286]

@@REDBEARDOFFROAD I'm unsure anyone who drove a Goat professionally would touch one recreationally, so... the latter.

[@REDBEARDOFFROAD]

@@mfree80286 Why not?

[@mfree80286]

@@REDBEARDOFFROAD I see your point, some are gluttons for punishment :)

[@REDBEARDOFFROAD]

@@mfree80286 Maybe... ;-)

[@MitzvosGolem1]

Wet slime need chain s

[@REDBEARDOFFROAD]

Yes, absolutely...

[@bigmikeyc83]

This is stupid . Air down the tires or get some with tread then were talking about total different situation

[@REDBEARDOFFROAD]

Thx a lot for watchin. Regards from Germany.

[@Benni81]

GammaGoat= Offroad Titan against a MOG muahahhahahahahahha A mog eat this for breakfast!!!

[@REDBEARDOFFROAD]

Yes. Breakfast...

[@donaldservais5177]

that thing is worthless it is junk.and we paid for it

[@REDBEARDOFFROAD]

HAHA. No, It depends on the tire pressure. Regards from Germany.