Game 3: Gukesh D vs Ding Liren | World Chess Championship 2024

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@ChessNetwork
@ChessNetwork 3 күн бұрын
World Chess Championship 2024 (Ding Liren vs Gukesh D) kzbin.info/aero/PLQsLDm9Rq9bGj5EHpnnc4yN_dFHJ4Zn5X
@PrasantaIndra
@PrasantaIndra 2 күн бұрын
\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ They DID NOT DO THE BROADCAST DELAY ////// /////////// As a result, if one would just follow closely who and maybe also how often predicts the correct winning continuations or best defensive moves in "CRITICAL" times. I mean if they don't acknowledge this has ALREADY started- prompting telepathically and amplifying this "connection" with large numbers of audiences and broadcasters with attention to real time moves- just note this date and remember this was pointed out and we all knew. Not sure about first few days, as the connection gets weak when you move in to a new venue, etc, and maybe this was not as apparent. But once things have settled, this is back. I really wished I am wrong but I guess everybody knows but look the other way. But as Garry just said this is not even a WC with Magnus not playing, so yeah maybe it does not matter at all. But still, why not just put a 1 hour delay and see the effect???? ???
@DollyKD
@DollyKD 2 күн бұрын
We are peacefully demanding a broadcast delay of 1 hour initially to have a neutral outcome and avoid prejudice to any player for unfair advantage. Man vs Engine and engine wins. We are all aware what is happening by prompting the correct moves in times of need. Telepathically and signal amplification by large numbers of people concentrating real time and prompting the only moves possible to victory as said by the engine. Yet, we do nothing? And on top of that, when someone raises this issue, they block the comments to avoid people knowing this. It will be demonstrated soon that a rookie will beat MC handsdown every match. What is the problem by at least weakening the signal by not having moves relayed and analyzed and prompted back in real time. There will still be signal if the player decides to but should be much weaker...at least a try should be made to avoid this.
@butterw55
@butterw55 2 күн бұрын
Your analysis of alternative paths in the opening is really excellent for a player at my level. Thank you!
@ChessNetwork
@ChessNetwork 2 күн бұрын
Great to hear. That’s the idea. Show a game and maybe you take a thing or two away. 👍
@DollyKD
@DollyKD 2 күн бұрын
We are peacefully demanding a broadcast delay of 1 hour initially to have a neutral outcome and avoid prejudice to any player for unfair advantage. Man vs Engine and engine wins. We are all aware what is happening by prompting the correct moves in times of need. Telepathically and signal amplification by large numbers of people concentrating real time and prompting the only moves possible to victory as said by the engine. Yet, we do nothing? And on top of that, when someone raises this issue, they block the comments to avoid people knowing this. It will be demonstrated soon that a rookie will beat MC handsdown every match. What is the problem by at least weakening the signal by not having moves relayed and analyzed and prompted back in real time. There will still be signal if the player decides to but should be much weaker...at least a try should be made to avoid this.
@rtt1961
@rtt1961 2 күн бұрын
My impression exactly.
@jimbalbier8526
@jimbalbier8526 Күн бұрын
@Dolly There is no such thing as telepathy or sending signals :⁠-⁠\
@mmfijalko
@mmfijalko 2 күн бұрын
Jerry, I can't live without your voice and commentary. Excellent job. Greetings from Poland.
@ChessNetwork
@ChessNetwork 2 күн бұрын
You’ll live! Thanks 😎
@kjhljhlkhjlkjlk
@kjhljhlkhjlkjlk 2 күн бұрын
among agadmator, hikaru and this channel, this is my favorite one. i like them too but this channel provides much better quality. goes for depth and chess instead of memes
@archismanadhikary1548
@archismanadhikary1548 2 күн бұрын
Agad, though quite good, seems to just play out the moves without much analysis. I think he wants to upload ahead of everybody else and capture the audience.
@Gus-r9j
@Gus-r9j 2 күн бұрын
@@archismanadhikary1548 I really like agad's passion for chess, his generosity in sharing his time and the effort he makes in researching its history over a century or so. However he needs to leave analysis to engines and stronger players, cos his own is crap..
@vibovitold
@vibovitold 2 күн бұрын
@@archismanadhikary1548 he's rated around 2000 - very strong for a casual player, but not nearly on the level where one is capable of insightfully analyzing WC games. that's like expecting a bright highschooler to review PhD papers.
@WorldOfDeepThought
@WorldOfDeepThought 2 күн бұрын
Not only were 2 out of 3 games decisive. In both decisive games the losers got into bad positions early, before move 40. That's extraordinary.
@chrishauser5505
@chrishauser5505 2 күн бұрын
Perhaps a case of nerves for both players?
@robertomifano4992
@robertomifano4992 2 күн бұрын
@@chrishauser5505 I think so too, look to be the case here for Ding. And I think (everyones talking) that unfortunately you could say that about much of his years since becoming champion (but not about the match that got him the title, he held his nerves there like a champ). Personally cheering for Gukesh (much simpaty for all young indians) but am hoping Ding holds it together for the match (real easy to crumble to the pressure) and we get to see some great chess
@raflalink
@raflalink 3 күн бұрын
I miss your live commentary! Thanks for the recaps!
@alexandershorse9021
@alexandershorse9021 2 күн бұрын
Gukesh cleverly closed it out with quick moves, not allowing Ding to play on his time at the end.
@pmam1968
@pmam1968 2 күн бұрын
Yeah, around move 30 the commentators were saying it wouldn't be easy for Gukesh to convert a complicated position into a win. It was smart tactics on his part to punish Ding's tardiness.
@bosnbruce5837
@bosnbruce5837 3 күн бұрын
holy f you get crushed with 2 inaccuracies and 16 average centipawn loss??
@AG_247
@AG_247 3 күн бұрын
With 93% accuracy, whereas previous WC matches have had about 97%±2. Also: the accuracy wasn't the issue this time ;)
@Cynis001
@Cynis001 3 күн бұрын
Well, if the inaccuracies lead to you losing a piece, then that is still pretty bad. The compensation for the piece was rather minor.
@quintenfranks8024
@quintenfranks8024 3 күн бұрын
Very complicated position to be sure
@Bli-k8m
@Bli-k8m 2 күн бұрын
That's insane. The "0 inaccuracies, 0 mistakes, 0 blunders, 5 centipawn loss" is so beautiful to watch. I only get that if my opponent abandons the game after e4 e5.
@softan
@softan 2 күн бұрын
@@AG_247 We used to have Carlsen, he brought the average up.
@intercalz
@intercalz 3 күн бұрын
As always, one of the best recaps. Thanks
@hitchikerspie
@hitchikerspie 3 күн бұрын
Go Gukesh!
@wzdew
@wzdew 3 күн бұрын
Lots of tricky trap lines in this game. Ding's gotta work on that time management. He had similar issues last year. That aside, I gotta give him props; he played a really tricky game. Gukesh really showing his mettle today.
@marktheexpositor
@marktheexpositor 2 күн бұрын
Thanks Jerry, really enjoy watching these with your commentary, appreciate the effort you put into them to help me glimpse the potential thoughts of these players and what might be with alternative moves. Great job!
@LesChats1991
@LesChats1991 3 күн бұрын
Hello Jerry, it's everyone
@hakim7894
@hakim7894 3 күн бұрын
Boring
@waterman121
@waterman121 3 күн бұрын
Underrated comment 😂
@emmettbalogun5374
@emmettbalogun5374 2 күн бұрын
Jerry, please show more objectivity, enthusiasm, and imagination.
@rayclay2
@rayclay2 2 күн бұрын
big jer.!! happy thanksgiving . thankful for you! i wouldn't listen to any other analysis then yours's!!
@ChessNetwork
@ChessNetwork 2 күн бұрын
Thank RC. How bout’ them Brownies! Great win in the snow ❄️. 😊
@rayclay2
@rayclay2 2 күн бұрын
@@ChessNetwork hey jerry. you would not believe it. i'm watching the game again YT just put the full game on~! yes it was our superbowl~! lol.. we get 2 more shots at them. ravens and steelers~! never give up on the brownies~!! great win indeed~!
@rodelmendoza9392
@rodelmendoza9392 2 күн бұрын
very instructive, thank you Sir Jerry
@jamessilva8331
@jamessilva8331 Күн бұрын
I love the way you stop and explore why a move isn't played. Thanks!
@ChessNetwork
@ChessNetwork Күн бұрын
👍
@fep_ptcp883
@fep_ptcp883 3 күн бұрын
"Gukesh has no inaccuracies!?" (Kramnink enters the room) -Let the procedure begin!
@pratulanand4476
@pratulanand4476 3 күн бұрын
not quite rare to see high 90 accuracies in classical games for these 2750 players, even kramnik knows better than to accuse someone of cheating otb
@GrubyGrzyb
@GrubyGrzyb 3 күн бұрын
Kramnik is one of the rare people who have the courage to speak their mind. Did you even watch his videos? He is right about many things. In particular about Danya.
@psycholars1
@psycholars1 2 күн бұрын
​@@GrubyGrzyb Kramnik is full of crap 99% of the time
@GrubyGrzyb
@GrubyGrzyb 2 күн бұрын
​@@psycholars1 No. But I don't blame you for being wrong. It's hard not to believe mass propaganda. I used to believe it too.
@critical_analysis
@critical_analysis 2 күн бұрын
​@@GrubyGrzybkramnik is a gone case
@ghost79ish
@ghost79ish 3 күн бұрын
All three games have been really interesting so far. This one has been my favorite, I'm not rooting for anyone in particular... Well maybe gukesh, but I just love these really complicated non-castling games. Wildly dynamic.
@TuguldurBatsaikhan-p8y
@TuguldurBatsaikhan-p8y 3 күн бұрын
We love you jerrryyy
@HSA-
@HSA- 2 күн бұрын
Loved the analysis❤
@Gus-r9j
@Gus-r9j 2 күн бұрын
Came for your clear post mortem, Jerry, and (as expected) found it. I was hoping you'd point out the source of black's ensuing positional and clock challenges: the *anti*-positional bishop move to c2 in the early middlegame … kinda half-heartedly chasing the weak (psychological gambit?) pawn on b3 but well behind enemy lines, unsupported, and incidentally retarding a healthy development for black - which never happened. And you did! @ 17:00 Anyhoo, three games in and I'm really enjoying this match, which is a pleasant surprise. A few more wins and losses, punctuated by the occasional 'hard-fought draw' will suit me fine, even though the lack of eye contact seems a bit childish. At my age I always try to make excuses for kids. :)
@gbu32
@gbu32 2 күн бұрын
Your the best! Well covered!
@critical_analysis
@critical_analysis 2 күн бұрын
Thanks Jerry for the excelllent video. Gukesh played very well in the end.
@YesPlease1
@YesPlease1 3 күн бұрын
Reeeally poor time management from Ding this game. And unwise to abandon standard development in favor of that bishop going on such an unsupported solo adventure
@superneenjaa718
@superneenjaa718 2 күн бұрын
Bc2 was the top engine move. It gives black the most fighting chance and provokes potential weaknesses in the white structure. Ding didn't want to get too passive because of which he lost too many games this year. At the top level passive play gets punished especially for black.
@vibovitold
@vibovitold 2 күн бұрын
@@superneenjaa718 he just miscalculated how long he can keep the Bishop there. one slip-up is enough when you're playing sharp. it brings to mind Fischer's famous loss against Spassky in game 2 - also miscalculating and losing a trapped Bishop.
@nikospitr
@nikospitr 2 күн бұрын
Good prep by Gukesh, bravo.
@mailvishooj
@mailvishooj 3 күн бұрын
Wish you were covering it live!
@KF1
@KF1 2 күн бұрын
Thanks for the recap, Jerry
@Ebobster
@Ebobster 2 күн бұрын
Match is evened up. Obviously, Ding played into prep, as Gukesh basically blitz out his moves. That’s part of what a WC match is about. Agree, Ding needs to manage his time better. Ding will bounce back, he did so 6! times vs Nepo in the prior WC match. Thanks for the good explanations Jerry!
@Bli-k8m
@Bli-k8m 2 күн бұрын
Never underestimate Ding. He's a beast. He's capable of giving Magnus a fight.
@ChessNetwork
@ChessNetwork 2 күн бұрын
Will be an interesting watch for sure. 3 games in and 2 decisive results is rare nowadays in the WCC.
@johannescuellar9021
@johannescuellar9021 3 күн бұрын
Much love for these recaps❤
@BharatXtreme
@BharatXtreme 2 күн бұрын
GUkesh is back with a bang
@JarrettKirk
@JarrettKirk 3 күн бұрын
Would you be able to add their current time again?
@ChessNetwork
@ChessNetwork 3 күн бұрын
See the message on the right 10 seconds in.
@JarrettKirk
@JarrettKirk 3 күн бұрын
@@ChessNetwork Thank you. How on earth did I miss that 😅
@BongelaMnguni
@BongelaMnguni 3 күн бұрын
​​@@ChessNetworkMay I ask why is it no longer feasible, is it because of the regulations or it requires too much effort or something else
@AKuTepion
@AKuTepion 3 күн бұрын
@@BongelaMnguni I'm also curious to know and I comment here just so that I get a notification if Jerry replies... :D
@moesheri9385
@moesheri9385 3 күн бұрын
Thx Jerry 😊
@kirkmason7079
@kirkmason7079 2 күн бұрын
As always with your I gained a little insight to poison pawns
@noahmiller91
@noahmiller91 2 күн бұрын
@8:53, why can white not play bishop G5? Keeps the pawn on G4 blocking blacks bishop retreat, and blocks the pawn from advancing forward. He could then hunt the bishop (rook C1) in peace? I'm obviously missing something... Thank you in advance!
@Silvergrooves42
@Silvergrooves42 2 күн бұрын
After Bishop G5 you get Knight H7, attacking the bishop. If you decide to go for Rc1, it's a simple bishop exchange, and if the white bishop retreats again, you can play the g5 move without any tactics to worry about this time. If white decides to stick to the blockade with f4? instead then black can move the bishop back to e4 (and maybe even throw in f5) because the threat of f3 is gone. Hope that helps! Thought it was good question so I spent some time looking at it.
@chrishauser5505
@chrishauser5505 2 күн бұрын
Would it be fair to say that Ding took himself into a deep, dark forest here? Thank you again, Jerry. Your analyses are always enlightening.
@davesmith5656
@davesmith5656 2 күн бұрын
Tactical games somehow lack beauty. Not that I am anywhere near good enough to pull of either, but I can appreciate the build-up of positional advantage that eventually leads to tactics magically appearing one after another.
@irfanyamashita7184
@irfanyamashita7184 2 күн бұрын
Couldnt agree more
@vibovitold
@vibovitold 2 күн бұрын
there are various kinds of beauty, but tactics usually require positional advantage to materialize, they don't appear out of thin air. Tal's combinations wouldn't be possible if he didn't have a profound sense for positional play.
@davesmith5656
@davesmith5656 2 күн бұрын
@@vibovitold --- Thanks for supporting what I said.
@chuckh553
@chuckh553 3 күн бұрын
Was the Rh5 move not as critical in your opinion? Commentators live put more emphasis on that move than any other.
@nyern
@nyern 3 күн бұрын
Because engine shows it is the losing move but if Ding did not know the position it was maybe losing anyway
@glenm99
@glenm99 2 күн бұрын
It is wild that Ding's bishop could just sit on c2 for that long, unable to make a significant attack, unable to escape, and not directly attacked itself. I can't recall any game quite like that.
@jonathanwarkentien
@jonathanwarkentien 2 күн бұрын
Free engagement comment. Happy Thanksgiving, Jerry!
@MoonBurn13
@MoonBurn13 3 күн бұрын
From what I’ve seen, Ding seems to be weak in time management. Gukesh seems to have taken advantage of this with a prepared opening. Thanks Jerry.
@Metagross31
@Metagross31 2 күн бұрын
Out of curiosity: When was the last time a WCC game was lost on time, if it even ever happened?
@irfanyamashita7184
@irfanyamashita7184 2 күн бұрын
Kramnik vs Topalov 2006
@Metagross31
@Metagross31 2 күн бұрын
@@irfanyamashita7184 Thanks for the info!
@TheAtheist22
@TheAtheist22 3 күн бұрын
Ding was Clearly Unprepared for the Bishop C2 move. Sealed his fate.
@achillesyoutube8773
@achillesyoutube8773 3 күн бұрын
The Google themed 'Game x' text in the thumbnail is a nice addition along with the photo of the players. Thanks Jerry.
@chesstime_0720
@chesstime_0720 3 күн бұрын
True
@madanmohankashyap6931
@madanmohankashyap6931 3 күн бұрын
Congratulations to gukesh
@p.jhodeflea789
@p.jhodeflea789 2 күн бұрын
????????????
@einstu
@einstu 3 күн бұрын
Would have loved to see the end of this from your perspective Jerry, played out.
@ChessNetwork
@ChessNetwork 2 күн бұрын
One move. Bxf5 😎
@davvves7977
@davvves7977 2 күн бұрын
Thanks Jerry!
@bruce4947
@bruce4947 2 күн бұрын
Gukesh didn't do anything to win. Ding lost the plot and handed him the game with some ridiculous time management when he should have at least got a draw.
@jatinladda186
@jatinladda186 2 күн бұрын
Lol ..ding was already loosing..
@haidermohsin
@haidermohsin 3 күн бұрын
Ding was in time trouble even before the start of the game. A super GM in hyper bullet spent 2 hours in the opening phase which he already had home preparations since his match against Ian Nepominiatchti
@RoyGazoff
@RoyGazoff 3 күн бұрын
A good fight going on
@clydefernandes9598
@clydefernandes9598 2 күн бұрын
When white played Bh2 on move 16 or F3 on move 17 , didn't Black still have the option of timely retreat of bishop to f5. How bad is that move ? I mean its showing that it takes some advantage away from black but the eval bar is almost even or maybe just slightly better for white. But atleast the bishop could be saved, Right ? Also worth it rather than spending all time on the clock finding other moves to rescue the bishop on c2 eventually losing the game on time.
@melk100
@melk100 3 күн бұрын
Is it three games between rest days?
@pallhouvum4443
@pallhouvum4443 3 күн бұрын
I didn't get your question, can you please simplify it, so that i could give you a correct answer. Btw, tomorrow is a rest day, Game 4 on 29th November.
@melk100
@melk100 3 күн бұрын
@@pallhouvum4443 I meant what you answerd :) So it is three games and then a rest day going forward too?
@pallhouvum4443
@pallhouvum4443 3 күн бұрын
@@melk100 yes, that's correct. 1 rest day after every 3 games.
@melk100
@melk100 2 күн бұрын
@@pallhouvum4443 OK, Thanx
@AG_247
@AG_247 Күн бұрын
This rule applies to the first 12 games (1 game/day for 3 days followed by one day off). Then it's game 13, next day game 14, and the entire tie break - if needed - takes place the final day (Dec 13th)
@tylerbeckwith522
@tylerbeckwith522 2 күн бұрын
Thanks, Jerry! Let's go, Ding! Watch that clock, brother!
@charlesfn49
@charlesfn49 2 күн бұрын
Thanks!
@ChessNetwork
@ChessNetwork 2 күн бұрын
I appreciate the $10.00 Charles. Super Thanks! ❤️
@teddymagcawas1332
@teddymagcawas1332 2 күн бұрын
Ding has getting a problem playing Bishop to c2.. consuming 29 minutes 😢.
@NJ-uh6hz
@NJ-uh6hz 2 күн бұрын
Me: thinking about rook c1. Jerry: Here's a 5 min analysis of what happens after rook c1. Me: wow, read my mind, thanks!
@fezza090
@fezza090 2 күн бұрын
Fireworks 🎆
@tolkienfan1972
@tolkienfan1972 2 күн бұрын
Why is Gukesh looking at the back of his eyelids? He must have an engine there!
@jmgod72
@jmgod72 3 күн бұрын
Why not 31 ... Ng4?
@TheTroy8
@TheTroy8 Күн бұрын
We are for choice with Jerry
@ramazanhoxha4265
@ramazanhoxha4265 2 күн бұрын
bishop to c2 for ding, was a big risk, and liability.
@zombehmonkey
@zombehmonkey 2 күн бұрын
Hi Jerry, it’s dad.
@DollyKD
@DollyKD 2 күн бұрын
We are peacefully demanding a broadcast delay of 1 hour initially to have a neutral outcome and avoid prejudice to any player for unfair advantage. Man vs Engine and engine wins. We are all aware what is happening by prompting the correct moves in times of need. Telepathically and signal amplification by large numbers of people concentrating real time and prompting the only moves possible to victory as said by the engine. Yet, we do nothing? And on top of that, when someone raises this issue, they block the comments to avoid people knowing this. It will be demonstrated soon that a rookie will beat MC handsdown every match. What is the problem by at least weakening the signal by not having moves relayed and analyzed and prompted back in real time. There will still be signal if the player decides to but should be much weaker...at least a try should be made to avoid this.
@vibovitold
@vibovitold 2 күн бұрын
one hour delay solves the problem of telepathy, but not the problem of time travel.
@loplop7029
@loplop7029 2 күн бұрын
Hi Jerry.
@Sebbelification
@Sebbelification 2 күн бұрын
Hey this isn‘t Jerry but this is Twitch chat missing Jerry
@anonymouspunk9968
@anonymouspunk9968 3 күн бұрын
I paused the video but did not find the winning move. It looked like an easy move to spot too.
@Bli-k8m
@Bli-k8m 2 күн бұрын
I was able to spot it by elimination. All "obvious" moves ended up being bad in one way or another. This was the only one that worked. Don't think I could have spotted it in game without Jerry being there to tell me "There's only one winning move"
@thguzzo17
@thguzzo17 2 күн бұрын
YEEESS!!!!
@irfanyamashita7184
@irfanyamashita7184 2 күн бұрын
I still wondering why ding spend too much time for 1 move
@mothowee675
@mothowee675 2 күн бұрын
Nope, that Bishop is mine.
@superfisto
@superfisto 2 күн бұрын
wow
@jozefserf2024
@jozefserf2024 3 күн бұрын
As usual, preparation was the difference.
@winfredj9820
@winfredj9820 2 күн бұрын
no. it can give only time advantage. the reason ding lost is because ding played bad moves. simple.
@silverpassion3588
@silverpassion3588 2 күн бұрын
Ding don't deserve to be world champion. How can he managed his time so badly. he shld know he can't possibly make his last 3 moves with 1 sec left. I think he overthink some of the moves too much and didn't see the obvious e4. That is not worthy of a world champion. School boy error !!
@ramazanhoxha4265
@ramazanhoxha4265 3 күн бұрын
gukesh 95% accuracy, wow... ❤
@steelyspielbergo
@steelyspielbergo 3 күн бұрын
d4, best by test. -me
@b.j.a.m.peters
@b.j.a.m.peters 2 күн бұрын
This Gooflefication of your presentation is disgusting. Pretty characterless to let your amazingly beautiful content be hijacked by an evil company as Google.
@ateistaeletszemlelet3492
@ateistaeletszemlelet3492 2 күн бұрын
In the photo the queens are off zhe table, so it clearly, by far not at that moment, DIng Liren is not ready to go, GUkesh not meditating. Anyway, why are you copying stupid things from other youtubers?! Your analysis is good enough to watch your channel, you do not need those stupid things.
@ChessNetwork
@ChessNetwork 2 күн бұрын
That’s an extra set of queens for promotion. Playful ready to go and meditation man. I wouldn’t know what’s being copied. I’m not viewing any else’s coverage. Thanks for the compliment. Happy Thanksgiving
@ilyrm89
@ilyrm89 3 күн бұрын
Loss on time, I don't want to complain but this is not something that would have happened to Carlsen..
@looinrims
@looinrims 3 күн бұрын
Can we go five seconds without you fanboys whining?
@royprovins7037
@royprovins7037 3 күн бұрын
who?
@nyern
@nyern 3 күн бұрын
He resign with like 5 seconds left
@adiands850
@adiands850 3 күн бұрын
Well, it did happen to Carlsen this year. He lost on time in an over the board match against Nakamura at the Norway Chess tournament.
@looinrims
@looinrims 3 күн бұрын
@ SHHHHHH you can’t say that to the fanboys, they’ll scream about anal beads or something
@p.jhodeflea789
@p.jhodeflea789 2 күн бұрын
I think Ding will resign the match. It is not possible to play so badly . The worst world chess championship of all times.
@bprLogos
@bprLogos 2 күн бұрын
Come on it just started.
@vincentedelmond5404
@vincentedelmond5404 3 күн бұрын
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz good night
@Elo-hv3fw
@Elo-hv3fw 2 күн бұрын
It's a mess !!!
@vincentedelmond5404
@vincentedelmond5404 2 күн бұрын
@Elo-hv3fw you are confused if it's the game or commentary
@Elo-hv3fw
@Elo-hv3fw 2 күн бұрын
@@vincentedelmond5404 the game is a mess !
@KirubanithiKiruba-vo6ih
@KirubanithiKiruba-vo6ih 3 күн бұрын
Don't compare with Bobby Fisher and Boris Spasky because Bobby Fisher was shouting of lights but he was annoying of Boris Spasky winning first game but no other way to surrendered to a child like Bobby Fisher so Boris Spasky lost himself but if Fisher is capabilities why Bobby Fisher afraid of facing Anotoly Karpov same like that Ding Liren won world championship because of Nepo don't want crush Ding Liren because world will curse him without Carlson he won Chinese immatured people
@Johnnywhatagentleman
@Johnnywhatagentleman 3 күн бұрын
Misinformation stop
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