Game Changers Full review

[@markbeiser]

I looked into going on a vegan diet once. Sadly it turns out that it is actually illegal to eat vegans in most places. 🙄

[@Wilhelmena3]

😂😂😂

[@Munkendrunky]

@30:05 "We have a throwing arm... that's not to throw rocks at fruit." 🤣🤣🤣 Still laughing!! 😂😂😂 Solid review! I would also add that this smear campaign would have been better aimed at the processed foods industry. That rhino poaching has practically nothing to do with meat; it's all about their horns, which is why the entire carcass is often discarded. And that overall farming practices (for all food sources) are between poor and horrible, but blaming that on anything but human greed, apathy, and overpopulation is comparing apples to orangutans.

[@betsysmucker3708]

Thank you so much for doing these videos! I’ve done the Adkins diet for 20 years and have watched his research be demonized for that whole time. I knew how great I felt and didn’t give up on the diet. Today I’m far better off than my peers. Now you are giving me new science behind it. God Bless You! It makes me sad Dr Adkins didn’t live long enough to watch his message spread to all of the rest of us, thanks to Doctors like you!

[@simonsmedley5434]

Betsy Smucker It’s Atkins not Adkins asshole!

[@stacyrowe2883]

It's not a documentary, it's an ad for vegan goop patties.

[@andrewmccool5923]

Yum

[@shannonkringen]

i agree the movie is an ad for pea protein and processed carb "plant based" foods

[@doubleketo2170]

exactly. 1/2 way through I stopped watching it and realized this is really just an ad for vegan bs

[@bluesdog88]

goop patties fkn LOL

[@robinlillian9471]

Stacy Rowe: Eww. I have seen that stuff in a health food store. They don't even bother to refrigerate it. The version I saw was soy beans. They chemically process it, add food coloring, and mold it to look like hamburger. Gross.

[@shannonkringen]

ive been eating low carb, healthy fat, keto carnivore style and fasting 16:8 for over a year and burned off 40 pounds of fat and feel great and will keep doing this as long as i keep feeling good

[@easimsutube]

Had to pause this video and go buy steaks 🥩🥩🥩🥩

[@TheActiveLifeLived]

I had to pause to cook my Wagyu!!!! Tasted like butter!

[@andrewmccool5923]

*cows

[@usaisbeastly]

Amen to that

[@BudgetGainsByJJ]

I'm the 100th like 👍

[@TheActiveLifeLived]

@@avasdv because they it doesn't even compare...rendered fat from animals to milk butter, nah, not even close to that goodness...I do like my butter though man...

[@BeHealing]

I'm an athlete & I've always been a human being (omnivore), but my performance was declining & I had to eat more meat to feel better. Way back in the 80's I tried to be vegetarian & felt terrible.

[@LOVEchristHEwasVEGAN]

ur not an omnivore youre a frugivore.

[@LOVEchristHEwasVEGAN]

also you didnt do it properly and vegetarian still has animal products so not healthy or natural

[@LOVEchristHEwasVEGAN]

@@MM-ox2ex nope. Its also not easy to think about it because our heads have been filled by shills and miseducation. Your anatomy has not evolved to deal with animal products, hence animal products being the number one cause of death and disease. Thankfully the truth is out now and the sham of the food pyramid has been exposed and countries like begium, canada, denmark and australia have turned it on its head

[@LOVEchristHEwasVEGAN]

@@MM-ox2ex there are 80,000 plants and vegetables and fruits to eat why be cruel when you can just NOT?

[@clarenceboddiker9559]

@@LOVEchristHEwasVEGAN Lolol... Of which @95% are inedible to humans you stupid nut job

[@piffpete420]

Veganism is a cult, it’s not even a discussion anymore. To them it’s life and death defending the diet as they’re health decays in the process. My Sister has been vegan for over a year, and when my Mom informed me she had I went into a little about lack of bioavailability of nutrients when your vegan, and sure enough just a few weeks ago my Mom told me how she went to the Doctor and he told her she’s anemic due to iron deficiency. Instead of it being a reality check, she literally blamed the doctor for not telling her she needs to take iron pills. All they do even as there health is worsening is blame the world. It’s really sad

[@marcelklein3879]

I want to see a documentary from the keto and/or carnivore perspective.

[@DreamsOfLegend]

Go watch The Magic Pill.. there you go 😊👍

[@DreamsOfLegend]

@Burner Fire which guy?

[@fleckx]

There's "FAT: A Documentary". It's pretty good.

[@Itsleakim]

”Cereal Killers” and ”Run on fat” are both great films 👍

[@karmashleef8462]

There is one being made called Food Lies. I think I should be out sometime in 2020

[@bryanlagalo]

Forget the basic Paleo argument that we've been surviving on meat our entire human history. If athletes generally thrived on non-meat diets, you'd think this would be a widespread practice.

[@fitnesswithsaswatsahoo2116]

And India and Ethiopia would be the most athletic countries in earth in everything.

[@norseman-ns5tq]

Shawn should have been the one to debate the game changers on Joe Rogan's podcast...

[@Absolomthecarnivore]

The problem with plants based foods that few are talking these days is: 1. GMO. 2. Full of pesticides in order to resist. 3. Deprived of vitamins and minerals compared to the seeds who grew up 100+ years ago. All of these, create the autoimmune problems or other diseases.

[@IntellectualEmbargo]

Imagine looking at a study that says vegans have higher test and thinking "Yeah, that totally fits with my life experience. I bet there's nothing funny going on with this study."

[@whiteheadapexfishing4954]

I used to believe this sadly.

[@andrewmccool5923]

Despite your comment and name, your comment is full of grammatical errors. You’re not doing yourself a favor there - maybe cutting back on the dead animals would help.

[@resmarted]

@@andrewmccool5923 lol @ your desperation

[@sniffableandirresistble]

After years of raw plants nuts and fruits I now can only digest meat eggs fish and dairy.

[@veeinh]

After years of meat eggs fish and dairy I now can only digest raw plants nuts and fruits.

[@punker4Real]

you don't have a 4 chamber stomach

[@Cloppa2000]

The film is just an advert for James Camerons recent $140million Pea protein company investment! Any bias / conflict of interest u think?????????? Edit... I wrote too soon! This is one of the first things Shawn says!!!

[@drudub99]

You think james cameron is worried about that? His net worth is around 700 million. He invested in something he is passionate. You are a complete dumbfuck for listening to anything this idiot says

[@drudub99]

​@@MM-ox2ex you can be vegan and eat oreos all day but theres lots of science showing a well balanced plant based diet is optimal, not only for health but is the most ethical and sustainable. I have been vegan for 3 years and am by far the healthiest I have ever been, I get annual blood work and it keeps getting better and better. It is also the only diet that reversed coronary heart disease and diabetes.

[@drudub99]

@@MM-ox2ex your body makes its own cholesterol, there is no reason to consume it. Of course there are youtubers blaming a poorly plannned vegan diet for everything. Imagine if every person in the world with nutrition deficiencies, vegan or not, made a video about it. Dark green veggies and a few others have k2 and iron. Omega can be found in algae, flax seed, chia seed or all of these can be supplemented. American Dietetic Association clearly states a well planned vegan diet is suitable of all stages of life including athletic performance. www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19562864

[@drudub99]

@@MM-ox2ex duno the science but know I have zero issues ✌ challenge22.com

[@Cloppa2000]

@@drudub99 Wanker!

[@morgsam900]

Thank you for this Dr Baker. Have dived into tons of your content over the last week+, have heard about carnivore via a number of sources, personally have been more paleo/keto and moving towards a carnivore. So appreciate your depth of knowledge and research you bring to the table along with your upfront noting that you do not know what is THE diet for anyone person, yet the data and experience points towards more carnivore. Either way, appreciate what you and many are doing in the health and fitness space for people to be guided towards a greater understanding, which will lead to increased overall health of the individual, rippling out to the more.

[@traceygratch5425]

It was clear in The Game Changers that James Wilks was retrospectively illustrating and explaining his evolution and rationale for the adoption of a whole food plant based diet. He was not pretending that he was not vegan at the beginning.

[@buddyp3]

Tracey Gratch right he actually mentions in the film how he’s been vegan for many years. Wilkes doesn’t at all give the impression that he just switched to veganism.

[@MrDanielWP]

No one actually believes that or cares.

[@shannonkringen]

i cannot bear to watch "game changers" the trailer alone pissed me off. it's a "salespitch" for the vegan processed food industry i believe and all about fear mongering. the healthiest diet is real whole foods whether plant or animal- i am mostly animal based in my eating with a few plants here and there and feel great.

[@LOVEchristHEwasVEGAN]

its called denial and cognitive dissonance. im sorry youre so weak but im even more sorry for your victims

[@LOVEchristHEwasVEGAN]

youve been PITCHED at since birth. this is the opposite, its lifting the veil

[@darcyauguste281]

@@LOVEchristHEwasVEGAN nah the original comment was right.

[@clarenceboddiker9559]

@@LOVEchristHEwasVEGAN Cuckoo cuckoo

[@alphacause]

Thank you Dr. Baker for going through this point by point refutation of this latest piece of vegan propaganda. Your efforts are appreciated. Your critique of the movie Game Changers proves that when you remove cherry picking, poorly conducted epidemiological studies, cofounding variables such as healthy user bias, and anecdotes where a vegan falsely ascribes their athletic prowess to veganism when most of their athletic prowess was amassed while eating meat, the vegans really have nothing. Their arguments are as bankrupt as their diet is of bioavailable nutrition.

[@RabbitholeIsrael]

what about the bodybuilder who never ate meat his whole life?

[@johannakunze3300]

Nice word play!

[@alphacause]

@@RabbitholeIsrael How does a singular anecdote, or even a handful of anecdotes in this movie disprove thousands upon thousands of meat eating bodybuilders as well as meat eating strength athletes who do BETTER than this one bodybuilder and the handful of vegan athletes in this documentary?

[@mindfulnessmeditations4962]

Whatever helps you sleep at night (without a strong boner) buddy 😂

[@mindfulnessmeditations4962]

Drake Santiago someone building muscle on a vegan diet doesn’t disprove that someone can build muscle on a meat diet, it just shows that it can be done. I don’t know if you’ve noticed, but body builders are not healthy, they are just lean. Maybe vegan body builders maintain better hormone and cardiac health? I’m sure we’ll find out as more people are being exposed to proper dietary research and reducing meat consumption.

[@IvorCumminsScience]

HERE IS THE VEGAN MOVIE YOU MUST SEE! kzbin.info/www/bejne/q2aWmIiFq8aIldE

[@TheBirdyyeses]

I’m vegan, but the Game Changers does have quite a bit of BS in it. I don’t doubt that better blood flow contributes to better athletic performance, and I do think vegan diets provide that. However, where the documentary fell short is it didn’t address the MANY compounds in animal products that reliably boost athletic performance. Creatine, carnosine, carnitine just to name a small handful.

[@ZekeMan62]

Wow, a reasonable vegan who gives credit where credit is due. Most just come here and inform us slack jawed, mouth breathing, knuckle dragging serial cattle killers that we'll all be dead in 5 years.

[@deslawson2662]

Stop being vegan right away.... You are harming yourself

[@MrDavidknigge]

@@deslawson2662 maybe he's an outlier or maybe it'll kill them all at once with a brick wall

[@nicpic1985]

Thanks for being reasonable. I obviously do not know how long you have been vegan but I think you should read the book by Natasha Campbell McBride, "Vegetarianism Explained". I am not carnivore.

[@christophernylander6728]

Also b12 cant be replace with plants and must be supplemented, zinc, magnesium, iron can also be a problem. And i see alot of fat vegans from all the factory food made from salt, soy and plant fat.

[@clinclin1240]

This video needs to have 5 mil views.

[@clinclin1240]

@Pushups are great big budget long form commercial for vegan slop patties.

[@sue233]

Do you ever worry that you’re completely wrong and are encouraging a large group of people to follow a diet that will cause them serious harm in the longer term? Do you ever question whether going against what the science has found and telling others to do the same is wise or even ethical?

[@SubhajitM]

Lol woot? What were the majority cancer, diabetes, CVD patients eating for the long term? Plants? 🤣

[@voluntaryismistheanswer]

Do you ever eat a big fat grass fed ribeye and feel healthy and sane?

[@beardedwolf628]

The best thing that ever happened to me was Shawn Baker telling me to eat meat.

[@Merc306.]

Here here!

[@LegalAlienCrypto]

denis donbas Wow! You learned how to copy and paste the same generic comment. Care to post an actual source? Also where the fuck did you get 50% from LMAOOO

[@LegalAlienCrypto]

denis donbas 3.5 ounces of beef liver contains 3,460% of the RDI in B12.

[@nejcermenc670]

@denis donbas should change ur name to denis dumbass lol. No one here even supports factory farming. And how does b12 come into the soil? Dead animals, bugs etc.

[@StillTrustNo1]

@@nejcermenc670 If you're gonna call others stupid and then directly advertise your own ignorance telling us you don't understand how Bacteria and Archaea lives in the earths soil. Shouldn't you just have kept quiet instead?

[@jamesshaw3622]

A lot of "Game Changer" fans are hating this video

[@TrustNJesusChrist]

You mean ALL vegans watching this are hating and down voting this video?

[@LOVEchristHEwasVEGAN]

rightly so

[@TheBlueCollarConservative]

@@LOVEchristHEwasVEGAN only because it explains and exposes the lies of veganism.

[@LOVEchristHEwasVEGAN]

@@TheBlueCollarConservative youtube really needs a laugh react. its sad tho because your ignorance and evil involves VICTIMS. sticking your head in the sand and dying of heart disease, diabetes, stroke, cancer etc will help the world and ive no problem with that but it breaks my heart that to undergo natural selection you want to torture and kill sentient babies who want to live and do it with a smile on your face. you put others through something youd NEVER want to go through or wish upon your family. i just hope natural selection happens sooner rather than later and statistically it WILL happen

[@LOVEchristHEwasVEGAN]

@@TheBlueCollarConservative like it or not we are still FRUGIVORES like apes. our anatomy hasnt changed and thats why animal products are the number one cause of death and disease and people are dropping like flies. you see what you want to see to the detriment of your own health, the pain your family will suffer when u are unhealthy and dead and most of all, the thousands of victims whos hearts you break per year

[@CarnivoreDMD]

AND WE are not trying to take away Vegans’ food sources...but they try to limit ours! Fascism is their commonality.

[@zenmodernist1]

A bit of a clarification: Whereas dietary carbohydrates and proteins reach the bloodstream via the portal system/liver, dietary fats reach the bloodstream via lymphatics.

[@monroemusicnz]

Scott Lee not all of them. The longer chain FAs and cholesterol, yes, in chylomicrons. Short and med chain, bypass lymph and go directly to liver via portal vein. I suspect Shawn was using an oversimplification for brevity’s sake.

[@freespeechisneverwrong9351]

This is actually as I thought. Thanks for the thorough review.

[@danielp28]

Down 55lbs since going carnivore, game changer indeed!

[@MiggsMultiple]

Because you cut out all but one food...amazing

[@gmnotyet]

I've lost over 70 pounds by fixing my low test problem, eating NO FUCKING SUGAR, and limiting carbs.

[@lutherlessor4029]

I watched The Game Changers tonight (while eating a 1.5 lb ribeye). Then I watched pro-wrestling and pretended it was competitive... much more believable.

[@upup209]

Luther Lessor lol

[@SLWRX617]

I’ve never seen a lion eat a vegetable, but I have seen a goat eat a chicken.

[@thekingslady1]

Interesting thing to note🤔

[@TheRealRealOK]

Sean Tomas I’ve seen deer and horses eat birds and other small animals.

[@lmartinmiami82]

The exception doesn't make the rule... Let's be serious...

[@thekingslady1]

@@lmartinmiami82 goats eating other animals are not exceptions.

[@gatesofhades534]

@@lmartinmiami82 Meat is free nutrients compared to fucking grass, so if herbivores have a chance to get some they will.

[@elizabethross8082]

I am at 7:47 in this video and I know I won't make it to 51+ minutes. What is his point? Is there a point?

[@shaunr5450]

Debunking the propaganda

[@rawbacon]

I almost pirated a version but didn't feel like wasting my time watching it even for free. Instead I made a hunting knife out of a nice quality kitchen knife I picked up at the thrift store for a buck while I listened to your review.

[@Fwibos]

Not all heroes wear capes. Some review movies so we don't have to.

[@whiteprivilegeisawesome7358]

If you paid a dollar for a kitchen knife then you bought trash.

[@rawbacon]

@@whiteprivilegeisawesome7358 It was from a thrift store, it's about a $50 knife. I wouldn't have bought trash to rework into a hunting knife. Sometimes they sell stuff there at insanely low prices. I bought a $60 Yankee Screwdriver there a few weeks ago for 49 cents.

[@suprememasteroftheuniverse]

I made one out of bone.

[@Re3iRtH]

@@suprememasteroftheuniverse I made one from a human bone.

[@juripopov6747]

I used to eat a bowl of rice before boxing. Energy levels were okay/good. Now I eat two eggs, 100 grams of bacon and a bowl of rice before boxing...and my energy levels went through the roof! #stopveganismnow

[@ΘάνατοςΧορτοφάγος]

So you eat more calories and have more energy, go figure.

[@juripopov6747]

You are so smart. Omg I didn't figure that out myself. Maybe I forgot to mention that I'm eating the same amount of calories. Using a kitchen scale, ya know. Anyway, if it's just about calories, why make a film about how advantageous veganism is for sports performance?

[@juripopov6747]

Your mama is a delusional idiot. What the fuck do you even want I'm talking about my personal experience and not saying everyone should do the same. Not every diet works for everyone you sorry religious sod!

[@juripopov6747]

@Meager Vegan wait and see, you will, sooner or later, be consuming animal products. Fucking hell, a guy can't even tell his personal experience without being attacked by hangry vegans. Go eat your trees, I'm gonna eat my bacon, end of story

[@andrewmarshall582]

Let’s use Shawn baker and carnivore logic here 1. Baker mayfield heisman trophy winner and runner up for rookie of the year in 2018, this year he has a QBR of 39.4 - decline is due to his diet 2. Manny pacquiao undefeated for 7 years, lost two fights in a row due to his diet 3. Mike Tyson youngest heavyweight champion loses to buster Douglas by knockout because of his diet 4. Ben Simmons hadn’t hit a 3 point shot since college because of his diet We can go on for days, any time a vegan athlete’s performance declines or gets injured its due to the diet but there’s no need for explanation when any other athlete’s performance declines or gets injured LOL

[@AxelPRC]

I mean the movie used the same argument to associate their success directly to a vegan diet so....

[@andrewmarshall582]

Axel Dickinson every other world class athlete must be successful because they ate bacon and eggs and if they lose to elite competition then it’s because they ate bacon and eggs. That’s the logic we are using here

[@andrewmarshall582]

Axel Dickinson other factors like training, mental game, or facing elite competition doesn’t matter. I guess the new saying for football should be “diet wins championships “ LOL

[@AxelPRC]

@@andrewmarshall582 so both perspectives are utter nonsense? I made it to the elite level of rowing fuelled largely on McDonalds and Steak and Cheese Pies

[@andrewmarshall582]

Axel Dickinson diet does play a role in athletic performance but unless an athletes diet is complete shit, it’s not going to be the number one reason why they win or lose. In my opinion, the point of the movie was to show that you can perform at a high level on a vegan diet despite the absolute nonsense that has been spewed out for years by idiots like Shawn baker and frank tufano saying you can’t

[@lorenablanca5813]

Excelente video, few months ago I found your channel, thanks for all you are doing. God bless you!

[@Subeffulgent]

Excellent commentary most people just watch a movie and think that it's the truth cuz there was a doctor in it. Keep up the good work. And one more thing have you ever considered that maybe we're not monkeys by design.

[@moatzmoatz8412]

Double ditto!

[@americanmambi]

Ask any MD how many hours they spent in med school learning about nutrition.....

[@arkcon714]

@@SaucySophieXXX run back to your safe space sophie before I smite you again with facts and logic

[@Ron_the_Skeptic]

Chimps eat meat too, it's not just us eating meat.

[@dragondynastywarrior506]

The World's Strongest men are not vegans.....or carnivores. Let that sink in

[@andrewmccool5923]

Because it’s a new trend - wait 30 years (if we’re still around)

[@dragondynastywarrior506]

@@andrewmccool5923 or because it's a shit diet. A fad. None of the greatest strongmen are carnivores, because it is completely dumb as fuck.

[@nathandix4892]

Thanks for your review. Every diet is hard and takes preparation, determination and research. Most diets that work for some people, can’t or won’t work for others. I’ve tried a number of diets always finding them hard and time consuming. The best one I found (for myself) is a macros diet. Where I weigh myself, check my body fat ratio with the help from a qualified dietitian. Then my dietitian gave me information where he stated; I needed this much grams of fat, carb and protein. He went on to advise me where best to find these marcos in food I liked to eat. But he specified that “it was all down to me.” All I am trying to say is, eating healthy is good and I recommend everyone to try it. I’m not forcing or trying to force anything on you. The decision is completely yours. I recommend that you shouldn’t change your opinion, on how you live your life. By the opinion from one movie or person. Make your own judgements and conclusions. Don’t take what anyone says as facts and as something that will greatly benefit you. As my farther and a lot of people in my life have told me “If it sounds to good to be true, it probably is.” If you read this far thanks for your patience. I can only hope you make the right/informed choice, which greatly improves your life.

[@StillTrustNo1]

The Mcgregor reference makes perfect sense - its an argument of endurance. The man has runs out of energy in all of his major fights. He wins optimally when he knocks out opponents very fast. But the second the match draws out then he runs out of energy, something that you exactly see the opposite of, in the plant based(not meat based) Diaz brothers. If you've seen this movie twice and haven't been able to reach that conclusion then obviously you're way to stupid or biased to watch it objectively and your whole "review" is worth nothing. Be honest or stay silent - there is enough ignorance on the internet.

[@StillTrustNo1]

@Zack Ramey If you read what I wrote - clearly only addressed one very specific point.

[@StillTrustNo1]

@Zack Ramey the only thing that's clear here is that you're to biased to look at this video objectively. If you can't find flaws here then you're either blind or stupid.

[@StillTrustNo1]

@Zack Ramey Okey, tell me then why he got the point I'm highlighting wrong then? Tell me how my argument is wrong. Try to put something real on the table instead of just your ego.

[@StillTrustNo1]

@Zack Ramey If you can check your ego for a second, then this post that you chose to respond to adresses a specific example. Do you actually have an argument against the fact that this post adresses or are you trying to tell me that you're intellectually stimulated with us just throwing mud back and forth all day. I would argue that someone with a functioning brain would be ready to move on by now, so do you have an argument?

[@StillTrustNo1]

@Zack Ramey Still not done with the mud huh. Okay I'll repost since you must have missed my original post: "The Mcgregor reference makes perfect sense - its an argument of endurance. The man has runs out of energy in all of his major fights. He wins optimally when he knocks out opponents very fast. But the second the match draws out then he runs out of energy, something that you exactly see the opposite of, in the plant based(not meat based) Diaz brothers."

[@katdodd6211]

To be fair...my performance & health suffered even when I was lacto ovo vegetarian

[@andrewmccool5923]

Kat Dodd Probably because of the chicken periods and processed cow’s milk products

[@katdodd6211]

@@andrewmccool5923 bahaha I tried Veganism too

[@AliceRoche-ii2ke]

@@andrewmccool5923 get a grip.

[@notafuckinpplperson8233]

da fuck is "lacto ovo vegetarian" is that long for "crazy"?

[@resmarted]

@@notafuckinpplperson8233 Sounds like a vegetarian that drinks milk and eats eggs

[@andrei8077]

Thank you Shawn, finally a comprehensive critique of the NWO DIEt.

[@rhondagodwin1265]

And I believe his huge pea plant is in Canada.

[@JoseMaloof]

Info from both sides is interesting to process, and more if you consider yourself open to any new idea. What is interesting to me, from this video, is the examples shown about the athletes that go vegan, after being omnivorous all their life. My reasoning on this is that as an athlete, one wants always to see improvement, even if you are at the top of your discipline. You will try anything, even if it looks like a cheap gimmick to add an edge. In this case, they try to change their eating regimen. Based on this examples, it is suggested that going full vegan, on the long run you do get performance deterioration, but a slight improvement at the start. There is a world of "Junk" food in the vegan world, but when you start out I imagine people try to eat mostly whole food, almost none processed. The interesting part is that, this short boost in performance before going into the performance deterioration could be because of eating little to no process foods. Puts in to perspective how bad process food is, regardless of the type of diet.

[@JoseMaloof]

@Reece Like I said, if this is suggested like in the video (and many other with examples), I never stated as it to be truth.

[@lisarakic9285]

Thank you. A friend of mine posted the trailer for The Game Changers on his Facebook page, recommending everyone who thinks they eat healthy, to watch it. I responded that I did not recommend it, briefly explained why, and instead suggested, "Fat: A Documentary". He has not responded.

[@MarkVA71]

@denis donbas Too bad most of his [and other low carb/carnivores] followers, eat grass fed meat. The grain fed meat we do eat are usually on site that are fed low-toxin grains. Crowd Cow.. you should check it out!

[@ppn7432]

@denis donbas Nonsense! "Contrary to popular belief, food for 70-80% of the people of the world comes from small family farms. With a little real assistance, the world’s small family farmers would be quite capable of not only feeding themselves but also “feeding the world." About 50% of world’s meat is reared on pasture. A lot of our world’s landscape simply can’t grow crops and vegetables so it’s the only reliable food source for a lot of the developing world." www.fao.org/publications/sofa/2014/en/

[@jasonvorhees4906]

Lisa - He didn’t respond to you because you’re an idiot LOL

[@bradysmith7427]

I'll respond to you, Lisa Rakic, you idiot. Shawn Baker still won’t acknowledge how much of a dumbass he has been every single day he has promoted the eating of meat. He spits in the face of such mammoths in The Game Changers as Arnold Schwarzenegger and countless others whose business it is to know what the best diet is… Yeah, Shawn Baker must be smarter than everyone in this movie, What the Health, Forks Over Knives, Earthlings, or PlantPure Nation… sure. Folks, wake up. Shawn Baker is a shill for the meat industry and all the poor, weak-willed addicts who want justification to keep eating unhealthy. Here are just a few of countless debunks to this idiocy, mainly targeting the other popular meat shill, Joe Rogan: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gXzEaJd6ib1jjdk kzbin.info/www/bejne/g6HSkHaoqNJsjqs kzbin.info/www/bejne/i4mTpKaZoKqVrKc kzbin.info/www/bejne/Zqmup6GQnZKFqdE kzbin.info/www/bejne/iZCYpX59e5egmac kzbin.info/www/bejne/gJi0mZaBiJh4iZo kzbin.info/www/bejne/m3m2hZ9mqNKVeZY kzbin.info/www/bejne/jaTOqWOrqrZ0b6M kzbin.info/www/bejne/oIKTfJeqdsSsoKs

[@brettschmittling6575]

Hey Brady Smith I agree with you on most of this but Rogan has John Joseph of the cro-mags on his show and it was a great convo, I recommend you check it out

[@milabulic]

As always, excellent video. Thanks. I love how you bring up evolution and adaptation as it really is important to understand when we are trying, as individuals, to get a fix on what is appropriate for each of us. Protein based, not plant based, is likely the way we need to go. At least for me that is the case. Anyone who has done a clean carnivore cleanse (@6 weeks of beef, ghee, salt) will quickly find out what their bodies can tolerate. Many of the vegetables that I used to eat, when added back into my diet (one at a time) caused serious problems and have been eliminated for good. It is a time consuming process, but worth it. I do firmly believe that genetics plays a huge role in what each individual can eat. My ancestry traces back to cold climates, so 98% carnivore works best for me.

[@ResponseDigitalMedia]

Thanks for bringing the facts to light Doc! So when did Arnold have his heart attack was it before or after he went vegan?

[@bh5817]

I’d guess it has more to do with his past steroid use

[@ciaran6171]

Go with your gut. Mine says rib eye with garlic mushrooms.

[@Jordan-th3pr]

@@xtdude he promotes a meat based diet. Not necessarily carnivore for everyone else.

[@Letthembelightpeaceonelove]

Then you’ve been killing your gut for years, literally

[@AliceRoche-ii2ke]

@@Letthembelightpeaceonelove hi again, sugar destroys your gut. Meat maintains it.

[@joebuchanan2892]

Thank you Doc for taking the time to research and discuss this topic. A lot of people will be persuaded by this movie. I research doctors, plumbers, mechanics, etc. I have a rolodex of truthful and competent guys. It has taken time. Thank you.

[@JonathanJK]

I would love some sources against what you're saying please.

[@robinlillian9471]

Diet alone can't make you a world class athlete. Training won't do it, either, unless you have the innate capacity. Obviously, it takes a lot of work to be world class, BUT you have to be at the top of the Bell curve of athletic potential first. It doesn't necessarily mean that you will live longer, either. Injuries could keep you from physical activity later in life.

[@Jean-yn6ef]

Thanks for taking one for the team 😍 I like how systematically you went through everything.

[@xEyesRedx]

Jean Martin I like it as well don’t totally agree, because of my personal experience eating as vegetarian then vegan it does do a difference for me

[@wevans91]

You fail to identify why the gladiator bone structure was phenomenal on their “slave diet” . They were definitely not out of shape like you mention. Quite the opposite

[@nickd9642]

wevans91 At the end of the day, they were athletes/slaves. They moved around, worked, trained. This will build bone density and demand more nutrients for the skeletal structure.

[@wevans91]

Nick D exactly, and a plant based diet provided them with the nutrients to build the bone density they needed

[@stephan5673]

They were slaves and feed As slaves. Enough said.

[@nickd9642]

wevans91 yes a plant based diet sufficed. It was their only option. The body will take in nutrients when provided. The argument they are making with this comparison is basically “these were some of the only athletes in this day in age and they were forced to eat a plant based diet and it work for them”

[@wevans91]

Nick D it didn’t “just work” for them. You are diminishing how they had PERFECT bone structure by eating plants, beans and whole grains.... this was not a subpar diet by any means

[@ThePoluka2000]

you are smart dude, you can talk through all that stuff with no editing?

[@bobadger4771]

#askgojiman can vegans do the same?

[@susannahwesley5938]

That's cuz he eats lots o' meat.

[@Grumpyfrump]

Good notes and a high IQ.

[@ZekeMan62]

@@bobadger4771 A crackhead with ADD has a better attention span than Gojiboy.

[@Letthembelightpeaceonelove]

He’s looking down at a piece of paper 🤣

[@jbacich1952]

And of course you wouldn’t be promoting your own “propaganda.” Right?

[@vitaliyjuterbog8912]

biological imperative is not propaganda

[@jasonvorhees4906]

Vitaliy Juterbog - propaganda is propaganda and this video is full of it.

[@jbacich1952]

Vitaliy Juterbog What?🤷🏼‍♀️biological imperative is unique to each individual.

[@ewanrollo5527]

Thanks for that video. It was really usefull and thanks for the research and work that went into it. It really helped.

[@jamisondorsett5268]

I personally vote we start a gofundme or other donation basis to reimburse the good doctor for taking the sacrifice to watch that utmost crap of a film

[@Jeremybearmy]

Jamison Dorsett If you’ve not seen it, how do you know it’s a crap film?

[@jenniferflower9265]

I'll tell you what, every morning I have heavy cream in my coffee then I'll have eggs. Both times after consuming this my sex drive shoots way up. Within 5-10 minutes. This does not happen if I skip a day and have something more carb. They know...😳

[@jp05598]

Where you at girl, got plenty of eggs 😂

[@seilahqlq1]

Kudos to you for watching this crap mockumentary; I couldn't get past the first 10 minutes. And the format was just sad to say the least. With money coming in from millionaires like Jack Chan the "lonesome investigative journalist on a personal journey of knowledge" was as fake as pornstar moaning for the camera.

[@andrewmccool5923]

seilahqlq1 Maybe you’d have learned something if you watched the rest - or are you too scared to question your dietary habits?

[@jasimcg.6527]

Thank you so much for taking the time to infom us all .

[@rollthedice54]

Is the chainsaw in the background cutting up your meat! Great work here thank you!

[@shawndarling5855]

Keep debunking these videos from the vegan industry doctor.

[@davidpassuello1714]

Hi Dr Shawn, i watched Dr David Sinclair regarding aging, one of the things he mentioned was when eating meat your activating the mTor pathway which can have a negative effect, what is your opinion on this. please note i am a meat and veg eater.

[@IvanSam1]

Novak Djokovic is not vegan anymore.

[@MrOstojo]

He doesn't like the label of "vegan". He might wear leather, etc. But he does claim to completely eat plant based. Your comment is misleading.

[@IvanSam1]

@@MrOstojo Novak is in veganism promoting movie, he opened vegan restaurants and he started eating meat after bed sport results , than he started winning again..

[@Muskar2]

I don't particularly care for this fact, but I recall reading Novak was never vegan - he is just "plant-based" - that is, eating mainly plants. He still eats a little fish and chicken - at least according to the preview I found of his cooking book (and it looked like he was missing omega-3, which vegans mostly get from certain seeds, nuts and brussels sprouts. Something you have to know, just like you'll likely be deficient as a meat-eater if you don't eat fish). But I don't see how his diet matters in any way - you can't really suggest anything scientific from one person's eating style. I think the point of the movie was to disprove the cultural claim that it's impossible to be a vegan athlete - and that doesn't require all examples to be right.

[@jerome1913]

He’s never been vegan, but he eats plant-based...

[@robinlillian9471]

Richard Wrangham NEVER said humans are herbivores. In fact, he has said over and over that raw veganism can not be maintained long-term, and is only a temporary weight loss diet. His thesis is that humans evolved to eat COOKED food as part of our diets. He lists meat, starch, honey, fruits & veg as human foods. People can't always get meat. Humans are OMNIVORES, and opportunistic meat eaters. Western people don't like insects, but they are the main source of animal food in many places. Even chimps eat insects and hunt. They don't eat cooked food in the wild unless there was a wildfire, because they obviously can't cook. However, a couple in captivity have been taught to start a fire and cook simple things like roasted marshmallows by humans, so the wild ones are on the cusp. www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=112334465

[@tonytriip2]

I was waiting for a deep review like this. Thank you

[@mysterydude2020]

I think I remember that old 1973 documentary about these peoples beliefs, Soylent Green I thin was the name.

[@adriangonzalez4449]

Soylent green is people

[@Diseaseisreversible]

Adrian Gonzalez that’s the joke

[@Diseaseisreversible]

Adrian Gonzalez whoosh

[@parkinplay5931]

I'm happier, stronger faster and leaner since going carnivore; I never need medications because I rarely get sick, I eat less because I eat nutrient dense food that I enjoy. Let the celebrities say what they want, they only care how this is going to boost their careers. Thank you for subjecting yourself to this nonsense!

[@SubhajitM]

See you in 10 years?

[@parkinplay5931]

@@SubhajitM yes, yes you will.

[@Muskar2]

@@SubhajitM Most people in my family died at age 40-70 while on pretty unhealthy diets. One of them is in her late 80's, even though she's been decreasingly worse off in the last several decades. So if you're healthy on other health factors than diet (i.e. exercise, smoking, alcohol, drugs, sleep, stress and personal relations) it'll probably take longer than a decade for the propensity to be a serious lifestyle disease and eventually dying from it - remember there's also genetic expressions at play.

[@kevinheise7]

Nate Diaz, eats eggs and fish. McGregor won the second fight - underestimated Diaz's chin in the first bout and blew his wad trying to knock him out in the first round.

[@kevinheise7]

@My BJJ Journey Yeah, I'd be pretty sluggish too👍

[@davidklotz11]

Hey Shawn do you have any sources for the information you are sharing? For example, I looked up Murray Rose and according to his Wikipedia page he was vegetarian during his competition days but later in life was not. If this is the case it seems misleading the way you framed this, in particular mentioning that he died of cancer.

[@DaKeezl]

Wikipedia

[@HEALTHREVIVEUK]

Does the carnivore diet reverse heart disease?

[@ianmitchell2957]

No and never will .. let meat eaters eat meat .. I have no interest in talking to them in my 70,80,90, or 100..🤣

[@jameshoffman917]

You don't get heart disease from eating just meat. High carb high fat diets will kill ya AKA veganism.

[@HEALTHREVIVEUK]

Ok so Dr Ornish lued in the Lancett. You say plant based diet causes inflamtion...!I was a canivore. I collased at Gym with suspected Heart attack. Angina and blocked atries. Two weeks developed pain in both hands....diagnosed with Rheumatiod Arthritis. CRP was 44....twevle months on plant based diet CRP 0 off 7 of the 9 drugs I am on. Back in gym and pool and killing it. YOU TELLING ME THAT ESSYLTON AND ORNISH ARE LIARS?

[@Daniel145D]

Ian Mitchell you look super unhealthy ian. highly doubt you’ll make it to 60.

[@TomashDXB]

Also, Novak Djokovic only started getting serious results after he has reintroduced fish into his vegan diet. Boom. Also got his original couch back - Marian Vajda from Slovakia.

[@gunwoodhealthwellness557]

A comfy couch is vital for optimal athletic performance!

[@user-nl4cn1ew4w]

You would've destroyed James, Chris couldn't defend himself

[@jassielzaragoza9256]

I feel Chris could of made more points against James but he was obviously intimidated and wouldn't speak up enough , when Chris did speak up he did prove that James was mistaken or misleading

[@jchil5087]

Chris seems like an inherently shy character. Not even meek, just straight up shy. It was actually horrifying to watch that 60 IQ bafoon character attack the living shit out of chris for over 3 hours straight.

[@Yolo_Swagins]

Great video Mr. Shawn, thanks for sharing.

[@adriandanekennym.d.1185]

carbohydrate : 1 sugar 2. starch 3. fibers . Fibers are all of the fibers of the universe. muscle fibers. fat fibers. neuron fibers. plant fibers. etcetera etcetera.

[@susannahwesley5938]

The Game Changer title should have been "Fueled by the Ruse" (trick or subtrefuge).

[@dustinwhitaker9377]

Really appreciate this breakdown!

[@arturas3631]

Hey Shawn, watch documentary "Earthlings" or "Dominion" tell us what you think about it?

[@Adnancorner]

arnolds movie from 1970's he was smoking and eating chicken.. i remember that shot.. where he is smoking and laughing.

[@MikeHunt-xj5xf]

I saw it, it's pretty frustrating, they say plant based a lot very few vegans in it. Hell, meat and three vegetables is "plant based"

[@MrDavidknigge]

Standard American diet is plant-based.

[@Muskar2]

Plant-based means having plants as your primary food source. Having a steak with sauce and a small side salad is not plant-based. Especially not stuff like lettuce and cucumber which is not much else than water. Neither is having fries with your BigMac. But having meals where varied unprocessed plants is the main part of your nutrition, and then having a bit of meat on the side occasionally, that's plant-based. Plant-based is what's claimed healthy, but veganism isn't the same thing (i.e. fries, biscuits, soft drinks etc.), even though it can be.

[@MrDavidknigge]

@@Muskar2 Wow! An effing epiphany!

[@EdArmGuitar]

Watching this while cooking my ribeye 🥩🥩

[@TomRauhe]

Using something as extreme as the trail was a bad idea to begin with : Other endurance athletes follow a similar pattern: Appalachian Trail record holders like Karl Meltzer and Karel Sabbe completed that 2,190-mile course in record time on diets of beer, pizza, potato chips, and candy. But quick-acting characteristics of these foods that make them ideal race-day snacks are also the reason why they're bad for us when consumed on a regular basis. A wealth of scientific evidence has shown that relying on processed foods leads to weight gain over time, and that people who eat more of these foods tend to get more cancer and die quicker than people who rely on fresh vegetables, whole grains, and healthy fats like olive oil.

[@livingron9983]

That took a lot of work to put together. Thank you. Now I don't have to watch to film to answer questions - I will just point people to this video.

[@wevans91]

The reason people in the comments are having a hard time listening to this man speak and asking you to “use visuals” is because this is a man speaking out of his ass!! Sure Makes it harder to understand

[@spaceghost8995]

Tell me specifically what did Shawn say that was untrue? Do not cite weak garbage studies funded by vegans plz.

[@percy888ferry]

So a better subtitle for Game Changers - Outliers and Outright Liars!

[@jnanashakti6036]

Oh shut the fuck up.

[@shelbyalbrecht9800]

Why do vegans get so agitated when someone questions their way of eating? Are they that insecure about their decision?

[@YankeeinSC1]

Too many co-mingle their motivation beyond health, to include politics, animal activism, a touch of religion, & a desire to prove their egotistical intellectual or moral superiority. As soon as the discussion talks about saving the planet, being kind to animals, or touching nirvana, vegans loose all health based credibility. It's almost worse than the meat or dairy industry claiming "the other white meat" or "...does a body good."

[@MissNoragnn]

Because it’s not just their choice, it’s their identity. So I’m guessing they feel personally attacked.

[@MiggsMultiple]

I'm not a Vegan though Carnivores are just as loony and agitated when questioned...

[@JoseMaloof]

@@MiggsMultiple Na, our generally "documented and scientifically" based answer is "Cause it's Delicious". No need for complicated violence, story telling, PhD studies mentioned... plain old simple "Cause it's Delicious".

[@tabsblack]

I don't get agitated. I just routinely am disgusted and disappointed by people. Most are selfish turds that could give a crap about the incredible suffering they cause. Most say they have watched films of the horrors going on in the slaughter houses and they just don't care. Everything is about them. Speciesism...look it up.

[@devilfacedjedi]

Have seen an hour of this doc so far as it’s now on Netflix. To say I was disappointed was an understatement. I genuinely wanted this film to convince me to go plant based. But it’s the same old shite they spouted 4 years ago in what the health.

[@MrGriffo666]

@Michael Stock probably needs a valid reason to go vegan. unfortunately, except in rare cases, there is no valid reason to do so.

[@andrewmccool5923]

devilfacedjedi It’s the same shit because it was true a year ago, and still is???

[@rootfit]

I actually saw this before I saw Game Changers: kzbin.info/www/bejne/oHfOXn9tjMiaZsk Arnold's first line is, "Are you here to bust me for not being TOTALLY vegan?" As you see from the Arnold video and Dr. Baker's review, the real problem with the vegan argument is that of so many other segments of society. There is one word to describe it: NUANCE (or lack of it). Vegans are, common in my experience, one of the groups of people that feel that they are the 'anointed'. Somehow, how they eat will change the world and there will be a perfect utopia. No one cares that a person is vegan. It is only when a person tries to push their morals onto others and disguise it as nutritional science that it becomes a problem. Maybe it is just cognitive bias that is to blame. But, it is the distortion and lack of information consolidated from all points of view that creates the health dilemmas. Vegetables are extremely important in the diet. But, so are animal sources. This attitude that creates so much confusion can be described in Thomas Sowell's book "The Vision of the Anointed".

[@canicarnivore]

Great work dr. Baker, thanks for exposing all the lies.

[@SubhajitM]

Lol 😜 He's no doc ffs. His license was taken away. Are you guys such noobs for your biases?

[@canicarnivore]

@@SubhajitM eat steak

[@terraflow__bryanburdo4547]

@@SubhajitM And given back. He fought the system and won. 1000x more of a doctor than emaciated quacks like Greger and MacDougall.

[@prismak7607]

Giraffes have extended their neck to reach higher plants, we have developed a throwing arm to reach higher fruits. Or not? 🤣

[@helenguilford3136]

Good review. I knew a lot of this from your HPO podcasts. Love them. You have so much information from all different experts.

[@marcpoirier7385]

Shawn, thanks for watching it twice!!!

[@TheJeffatan]

Thanks for Taking it twice for the team..

[@CompletePivot0302]

Conor got gassed out that fights because he gained too much weight too quickly. He was scheduled to fight at 155, but his opponent got pulled out on like 2 week notice and Nate stepped in as a replacement, but for 170 lbs. Conor then stuffed his face trying to make up for the weight difference, and paid the price for it. They should have showed the rematch where Conor put the weight on properly and literally turned nate into a walking punching bag.

[@kbkesq]

Connor macgregor clearly blamed his loss to Diaz on eating too much steak!

[@JoseMaloof]

you do realize Diaz just goes "vegan" a week or two before a fight? Also, eating too much steak is also not very well seen in the "carnivore"/athlete performance community. He had to eat like that to gain weight for the fight which was programmed in less than 20 days. Don't care what kind of eating regimen you are on, gaining 20lbs en that amount of time will hinder your performance.

[@Dougie1664]

3 weight classes 😂 and have you heard Nate speak, probably nothing to do with diet though🤔

[@jessicawise8643]

Awesome review. Thank you so much for laying this out there

[@beths9564]

So has anyone been "carnivore" since birth? Can't you use the same argument - that Mr Baker developed most of his physique eating a diet which still included plants? People talk about how all these vegan athletes end up retiring - like no omnivore athletes ever retire or get injured? Where are the keto or carnivore top athletes? There may be a few but certainly not very well known or any more well known that those in the film. While Mr Baker talks about how these studies are wrong or cherry picked etc, he has not provided any studies or references supporting the carnivore diet. While he agrees with Arnold about who the F*ck are you to tell me what to eat - well you spend a lot of time trying to discredit anyone who says there is anything good about a vegan diet....

[@nicpic1985]

Beth S he and other carnivores repeatedly acknowledge there are no studies and urge that over time there will need to be. They acknowledge that the current diet recommendations from food plate and pyramids are poor. As you must acknowledge far too many carbs, grains and plant leaning and that is not working well is it given the explosion of health problems? However what is also very clear is that saying no animal products is extremely damaging as ex- vegans attest. I am not a scientist but from my primary school basic learning I do think I was carnivore from conception. Sperm, egg, blood lining increased from mom, placenta, came out drank her colostrum and then breast milk.

[@the_dudeabides9718]

Thanks for taking one for the team! I don't think I would have been able to make it through that train wreck and definitely not twice.

[@mikelaudi3639]

Those meat pies are full of sauces and the outside bread , Shaun is the proof in the meat pudding looks good and strong

[@MrOstojo]

You don't point out that Scott Jurek tore his hamstring and STILL beat the record

[@ElinWinblad]

MrOstojo didn’t a runner usain pull a muscle in his last race a few days ago I think he went vegan 2-3 years ago