Game Dev vs. DEI: My Experience with DEI in the Gaming Industry

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Sabr Path

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@SabrPath
@SabrPath 3 күн бұрын
I appreciate all the support! The goal of this channel is to grow a community, but the level of exposure this video has received has been overwhelming. I typically try to read and engage with as many comments as possible, but with nearly 2,000 people sharing their thoughts, it’s simply too much to process. To set healthy boundaries, I’ve decided to step back from reading and responding to comments on this video. However, feel free to continue discussing and sharing your thoughts with each other. If you left a positive or neutral comment, thank you and I appreciate you. If you left a negative comment, I hope you find what you're looking for and that you feel better. Thanks again for watching and being part of the conversation!
@JackVogel2024
@JackVogel2024 3 күн бұрын
Support you'll get hehe The gaming industry, every industry, needs more of this, where focus on the profession is the priority. Where the content of the character is more important than any esthetics, in doing the best job possible. People within said industry daring to speak about it openly is the first step. Wishlisted your upcoming game, and will make a purchase on release. Not just as support. I know I'll have a good time with it based on its premise.
@PeterDB90
@PeterDB90 3 күн бұрын
What a positive, nice person. Somehow people will still find this comment to be "hateful" despite him literally wishing you well, but I digress. This was a great video, keep up the good work on your games, Beware looks interesting, I'll check it out.
@whitedragondojo
@whitedragondojo 3 күн бұрын
Non-binary is a social movement like emo, vamp, goth. It is not a gender or a sexuality in practice, Non-binary is not part of LGB.
@hawkshot867
@hawkshot867 3 күн бұрын
If you have need for some amazing developers who want to work in gaming I'd love to chat - I went to college with the Cocomelon artists and they got laid off when their jobs were exported to India.... They literally made Cocomelon the goliath on KZbin it is today.
@CédricAntunes
@CédricAntunes 3 күн бұрын
Keep it up :D
@johnnythedark3090
@johnnythedark3090 6 күн бұрын
1. Let's monetize discrimiation 2. make more discrimination 3. profit.
@SabrPath
@SabrPath 6 күн бұрын
Yeah you get it. I personally think DEI was formed by the elites to distract us, as a counter to 2011's Occupy Wallstreet, but that would make this video an hour long if I go into that.
@BrokensoulRider
@BrokensoulRider 5 күн бұрын
@@SabrPath You'd be correct though. If you look beyond the DEI nonsense and issues with the two on-going wars (both hopefully to peace treaty/end soon), our government's been up to a lot of shenanigans here in the US. I haven't paid much attention to other countries beside Canada since I plan on moving up there with my boyfriend, but if the things I've seen going on in Canadian politics has any indication, I'm pretty sure a lot of other countries are struggling against what our great and powerful Overlords all over 60 are trying to do.
@GamerConnoisseurRei
@GamerConnoisseurRei 5 күн бұрын
Lol they're not even profiting, all the DEI games are flopping left and right
@johnnythedark3090
@johnnythedark3090 5 күн бұрын
@ They do tho. They get payed for making their teams/companies more "diverse", not for making good games or earning money for their employee.
@Natsukashii-Records
@Natsukashii-Records 5 күн бұрын
@@SabrPath Holy crap, you are THE ONLY person I've seen say this aside from myself. The whole democrat party seemed to be taken over post Occupy Wallstreet to become a pro-corporate/establishment party and no one seems to have realized.
@kieragard
@kieragard 6 күн бұрын
gamers are also identifying as non buy nary in equal measure.
@SabrPath
@SabrPath 6 күн бұрын
The most powerful thing anyone can say is "No"
@JasonVu-h7t
@JasonVu-h7t 5 күн бұрын
This BS is ending under Trump. All the lawyers will be suing like crazy now.
@tengoodquestions
@tengoodquestions 5 күн бұрын
Non buy any Flows better
@WokiesareAllHypocrites
@WokiesareAllHypocrites 5 күн бұрын
@@tengoodquestions yep, but it lack the mockery and ironic comedic part
@mogonja420
@mogonja420 5 күн бұрын
I find it ironic that somebody with the knowledge of binary code would than choose to become incapable of interacting with said code through an imaginary contradiction.
@ShaoruneXYZ
@ShaoruneXYZ 6 күн бұрын
I gonna use "vote with my money" card
@Trucking4Jesus
@Trucking4Jesus 5 күн бұрын
And it's working well for us too, game after game after game just completely tanking and some of the studios have not caught on to other studios MASSIVE failures 😂 one day they'll get it and stop.
@jagaboob
@jagaboob 5 күн бұрын
*GASP* THAT CARD DOES 99% attack DAMAGE!!
@ThatKidBobo
@ThatKidBobo 5 күн бұрын
Yes, best is to buy the thing you want to support
@yoshi314
@yoshi314 5 күн бұрын
@@Trucking4Jesus the crazy thing is how slow it is working. what are they thinking?
@Trucking4Jesus
@Trucking4Jesus 5 күн бұрын
@@yoshi314 I don't think these people pay attention to any news at all tbh. A lot of people live under a rock, unlike us, the awoken ones. 🤣🤣
@IndieLuchador
@IndieLuchador 5 күн бұрын
I used to be an interviewer in the games industry. I was quietly blackballed for accidentally calling someone named Dave "sir". I feel the pain. I miss my career. My exact wording was, "Thank you so much for showing me your game. It put tears in my eyes just watching it. I hope you make a killing, sir." 15 minutes later-- cancelled by all publishers for calling Dave "sir." I'd give anything to go back to that day just to not meet him.
@SabrPath
@SabrPath 5 күн бұрын
I'm sorry to hear
@SkelNeldory
@SkelNeldory 5 күн бұрын
We can't change the past, but we can change the future.
@Parasiteve
@Parasiteve 5 күн бұрын
yeah thats not ok to do...to fire someone for calling a MALE a SIR. yeah no, thats BS.
@ejkr2051
@ejkr2051 5 күн бұрын
Those people are crazy ,cowards and must be purged. Unbelievable story,no , totally believable which makes it even more sad. You have my sympathy and I hope you get back doing what you love soon.❤
@laz981
@laz981 5 күн бұрын
Sure hope dave is fired by now good bye DEI.
@sungrandstudios
@sungrandstudios 4 күн бұрын
Thank you for speaking out on this issues. To get the industry back on track, we need more game develoers developers to speak up on this.
@SabrPath
@SabrPath 4 күн бұрын
I hope I encourage others to speak out as well. There are so many other game devs who went through the same experience but are afraid of getting canceled if they speak up. I appreciate all you do, Jerrel!
@JoeOvercoat
@JoeOvercoat 2 күн бұрын
@@SabrPathSpeaking out is a sure fire way to bring shit down on your shoulders, where all of your previous friends and acquaintances will just look on and then look away. The stain of whistleblowing will stay with you forever. Such is life in Western society. Thank you for your post. p.s. The military industrial complex needs people to include developers. The community is largely right wing but I’ve worked in that community for decades and the thing that matters is if you deliver product and/or services. Yes, there is/was DEI, but not so toxic as in the game development community. Please apply: America needs you (yeah, the pay is not great, but the job satisfaction can be fantastic. Frustrating, too. But the fantastic moments make it worth it.
@Lostnoodels
@Lostnoodels 6 күн бұрын
This is one of the reasons why games are flopping left and right, companies stopped hiring people because of their talent and started hiring people if they check the DEI boxes.
@SabrPath
@SabrPath 6 күн бұрын
They love telling on themselves with articles like the one I highlight in this video, but then deny what's going on when they get called out for discriminatory hiring practices.
@tadbitmess
@tadbitmess 5 күн бұрын
also make games for 7%, and less than half is gamer, missed by the rest. simple flop logic.
@bxile730
@bxile730 5 күн бұрын
Im getting attacked under a ass creed shadows video where i simply commented “i wont be buying this one” then the corporate ubisoft bootlickers came out the shadows and started getting mad at me for simply stating that. I refuse to support the forced dei bullshit but also just ubisoft as a whole because they literally have 0 respect towards their gamers
@bxile730
@bxile730 5 күн бұрын
@@SabrPathcant trust literally not even a single traditional gaming journalist outlet. They all gobble eachothers balls while licking the buttholes of AAA companies
@Kingstalk
@Kingstalk 5 күн бұрын
@@bxile730 i feel ye i got shouted at as nazi simple cause i didnt agreed with dei nonsense
@chrisandrew7577
@chrisandrew7577 5 күн бұрын
DEI is inherently toxic to any company
@martinportelance138
@martinportelance138 5 күн бұрын
It is neo sexism/racism. To think we almost got rid of these at the turn of the millenia... We stopped evolving, and started devolving. It's depressing. But the worst part is that this movement is authoritarian in nature - it doesn't want honest, open discussion but rather 'cancelling' opposition. It's downright evil. Speaking of which: check out YT deleting this comment.
@klaykid117
@klaykid117 5 күн бұрын
Specifically because it's a luxury belief that only works when there's a huge amount of free money in a company to support it. But as soon as times get tough (like is happening now) The organization can no longer support it and it has to be cut or it kills the company
@simpson6700
@simpson6700 5 күн бұрын
DEI is inherently racist and sexist
@arcadealchemist
@arcadealchemist 5 күн бұрын
The west seems to be the only places with this issue like we are being used as a dumping ground for unwanted trash behaviour
@CubicIronPyrite
@CubicIronPyrite 5 күн бұрын
Hire one of them, and they'll only hire their own. Pretty soon you're on the outside looking in.
@121deen
@121deen 5 күн бұрын
I'm a Black man that worked in the video games industry for 25 years. I couldn't agree more with this video. Whatever you want in life is a personal commitment that requires you to meet a certain set of conditions to achieve success. I hate it when people are trying to do things for me because of my skin colour and always reject it. Life is so much fun and more fulfilling when you have to figure things out for yourself. Because of this attitude there is nothing I have not been able to achieve for myself.
@falco5148
@falco5148 5 күн бұрын
well done. Game devs should be taught how to get better at their job, none of this DEI crap which wastes people's time
@SvenHeidemann-uo2yl
@SvenHeidemann-uo2yl 5 күн бұрын
The sad thing is that you might be very qualified, but due to DEI, if I'd see your job application, i would assume there's a good chance you might be unqualified and only be there because of affimitive actions :(
@dr_diddy
@dr_diddy 5 күн бұрын
we need less of you people anyway 🙏🏻 dei gone
@brownshoeblues2014
@brownshoeblues2014 5 күн бұрын
Life
@ThatKidBobo
@ThatKidBobo 5 күн бұрын
Giga giga giga chad
@wirlogx
@wirlogx 5 күн бұрын
In one of the places I worked, one day HR came to give us a speech about DEI and the fact that we were all men... and I'm not talking about The IT who is al day on the keyboard... I'm talking about we the guys tho actually disassemble computers, fix heavy issues on individual users and fix the freaking operative system. Back to the topic, they were complaining about us being all men and I did what every person could've done: gave the girl a pack of screwdrivers and told her "This laptop needs a keyboard replacement and one of the hinges is broken, I'm wiling to teach you if you are wiling to learn" The girl refused and I said: "That's why we're all men, no woman wants to do this"
@piscinaiv7937
@piscinaiv7937 4 күн бұрын
It's amazing how so many women in IT support shops end up in the middle manager, project manager, contracts management tracks. hardly ever any core engineers whatsoever.
@TheTrippyCh0ng
@TheTrippyCh0ng 3 күн бұрын
@@piscinaiv7937 shhhh don't tell em XD its fo the feminism cause !
@Lissbirds
@Lissbirds 3 күн бұрын
I'm a woman and I would love to have the opportunity to take computers apart and fix them. Sounds like you just had some lazy, entitled female coworkers.
@kboyd268
@kboyd268 3 күн бұрын
Weird I fix computers and tablets all day and use screw drivers lmao just sounds like a bad worker 🤔
@craigsayshello8239
@craigsayshello8239 2 күн бұрын
@@kboyd268not a lot of pretty girls will get physical with their hands like that, idk any girl from back home in Miami that would want to hold up a screw driver lol
@eddyspeddy
@eddyspeddy 5 күн бұрын
Unconscious bias is literally bullshit. At least in the way DEI teaches it. Bias is built on life experience. So if you grew up in a neighbourhood where black people were more violent, you would likely have some kind of bias against black people. As you grow up, you tend to grow out of those biases because of further life experience. This can go both ways too. I received a lot of hatred from indigenous people in my town simply because I'm white. I also had friends who were indigenous, so I naturally learnt it's not a race thing, it's an individual thing. Some people are racist, but most aren't. However what DEI is doing is creating an army of racist and sexist people. It's been horrifying seeing how quickly this influenced society. People looked at me like I was crazy when I called DEI racist back when it was first introduced. I'm glad to see people finally pushing back.
@cowel8734
@cowel8734 5 күн бұрын
Exactly. I've been robbed at gunpoint, bullied, and other negative things, and my friends and family have had similar experiences from just one group. It doesn't stop me from loving the ones who are loving and decent. Every day, the bad part publicly blames, insults, and claims others owe them as well as wild crime. We can't help them or others unless we can honestly address the issue. Correcting evil is loving ❤️
@zerotodona1495
@zerotodona1495 4 күн бұрын
Stereotypes exist for a reason.
@Terszel
@Terszel 4 күн бұрын
Yes, it was funny to watch these groups of people, who insisted they are welcoming and not bigoted at all, stop 1 foot short of praising 1942 moustache man because of what happened to Palestine lol
@mitchellterry4961
@mitchellterry4961 4 күн бұрын
We can be aware of and learn about other cultures in group preferences by being hired equally amongst each other. Not segregated. Its designed to create more racism and division. ANY system designed to help or hurt someone based on inalienable qualities should be banned during the hiring process. (Obviously not including actual physical limitations (
@FargonNemeloc
@FargonNemeloc 4 күн бұрын
I early said "inclusion is a gimmick for companies to excuse their shitty products, its a meat shield" Then moved to "inclusion is useless without integration, they'll always be seen as the other" Finally moved to "DEI is the greatest marketing scam of this time, no one benefits, the people applying it are burning through the few and hard worked guaranties for real lgbt; and all around giving lgbt a bad rep"
@Tharros95
@Tharros95 5 күн бұрын
I work in the industry too, as an artist. I applaud your courage to talk about this. I believe there is a silent majority in the games industry that recognizes how ludicrous DEI is.
@Yoruel
@Yoruel 5 күн бұрын
Ye the problem here is... majority is silent. But I understand being scared to lose a job. It's a minefield for sure xD
@Cizm-One
@Cizm-One 5 күн бұрын
If people who can oppose the Madness don't, there is nothing to hope.
@Acuas
@Acuas 5 күн бұрын
@@Yoruel Problem is, in most of these companies, if you speak up against it, you will be fired, or bullied into leaving, and you'll be called out publicly for it, which means, other companies will hear of it, and this past years, which company didn't run by the same principles, so if you speaked against it, you literally were burning down your entire carreer, which of course, no one in their right mind would do. When you have both the media and the companies running by the same agenda, you as an individual can't speak against it, because you will loose, sure, you might turn into a martyr, but who wants to be one? At the end of the day, what needs to happen, is people on mass reveling against it, but individuals can't do it, why you think this video is out now? Because of the change that is starting to happen, if it wasn't for Trump winning, this would be kept silent until further change.
@JasonVu-h7t
@JasonVu-h7t 5 күн бұрын
These racist grifters are ending in the next two years. Lawyers will be suing all these cmopanies for racism and the FED policies now under Trump and the chaing of the courts will assure this ends.
@nirorit
@nirorit 5 күн бұрын
@@Cizm-One idk about that, these studios will die off soon enough and we are already watching the rise of amazing new studios outside of the slug
@Odder-Being
@Odder-Being 5 күн бұрын
A senior game developer at Ubisoft stated that the 32% dei activists dev's are DEAD WEIGHT meaning hardly any useable contribution to actually developing the game due to lacking in skill.
@martinportelance138
@martinportelance138 5 күн бұрын
They are activists first and foremost... And that's precisely why they were hired for.
@egilala9847
@egilala9847 5 күн бұрын
They only thing they're good at is being offended and yelling, even then their aim suck
@danielchavez9367
@danielchavez9367 5 күн бұрын
Why hire them? If they don't contribute to the game development process. I don't get it.
@SuperKillJoy15
@SuperKillJoy15 5 күн бұрын
Hence why Ubisoft had to outsource their work to a cult
@Daniel__Nobre
@Daniel__Nobre 4 күн бұрын
@@danielchavez9367 it is due to (made up) investment metrics. Business has shifted in the 90s, specially public companies. Their boards just want to and found the best ways to get rich fast, and as such, business sustainable long term profit via products and services is no longer the most viable way to do so. And so, investors get their money back by creating perception of value, not true market value. This brings more investment, sometimes exponentially so. Rating companies then showed up to help manipulate this perception. This is also the reason why speculation is the baseline of economy today. And why, of course, financial bubbles grow gigantically and then also eventually explode in world wide scale. If you want to understand it further search ESG metrics. Also there is a cool book about it called “The Race to Zero” by Paul Tice, who worked for 40 years in firms like JP Morgan, Lehman Brothers, etc. The info as usual is all mostly out there. People just don’t research it usually.
@garrytalaroc
@garrytalaroc 5 күн бұрын
I feel so sorry for innocent game devs who lost their dream job because of company including DEI in their system.
@TheKalimanMX
@TheKalimanMX 5 күн бұрын
if someone´s dream job was working at EA/blizzard/activision they must of been asleep for the last 15 years.
@simplygreen5832
@simplygreen5832 5 күн бұрын
@@TheKalimanMX Keyword 'WAS', 'course they'd just put out Warcraft 2 at time time, not even Beyond the Dark Portal.
@SB-zm4fq
@SB-zm4fq 4 күн бұрын
I am a DEV and lucky because I work in a indie studio we don't have this DEI programs, BUT, we have something when making female characters to make them less attractive or less feminine. And I actually try to push it back. I am female myself and I tell them I like to play with appealing females. I have the freedom to say so and to be heard without criticism.
@povang
@povang 5 күн бұрын
DEI ruined my life and a 10-year career. I was the only Asian person in a 110-person company. I was promoted rapidly, ostensibly due to DEI, ahead of my majority-white peers/coworkers. This led to a massive rift between me and my coworkers. When I reached a leadership position, my coworkers made my life incredibly difficult and created a toxic environment, believing I had not earned the position through merit. It became so toxic and stressful that I had to quit.
@SabrPath
@SabrPath 5 күн бұрын
I'm sorry to hear about your experience
@HorseshoeSW
@HorseshoeSW 5 күн бұрын
Not sorry, you could have rejected these falsely earned promotions , but instead you rode the DEI train as far as you could and earned your rewards. I hope that the others benefitting from DEI have similar experiences.
@FF-tp7qs
@FF-tp7qs 5 күн бұрын
​@@HorseshoeSWhow do you know this guy didn't deserve his promotions? That's the problem with DEI, you can't actually tell if a given person was promoted because of merit
@HorseshoeSW
@HorseshoeSW 5 күн бұрын
⁠@@FF-tp7qs”I was promoted rapidly, ostensibly due to DEI”. He said it.
@HorseshoeSW
@HorseshoeSW 5 күн бұрын
@@FF-tp7qsHe states it himself: “I was promoted rapidly, ostensibly due to DEI”
@DoublePlus-Ungood
@DoublePlus-Ungood 6 күн бұрын
DEI is illegal. It was illegal when we called it "affirmitive action" it's same now. It goes directly against civil liberties laws. This is why your job application doesn't include the question of sex pref or race and it never will (hopefully). The ONLY thing about it that blows me away, still, is nobody it seems has faced prosecution even after broadcasting said policies as being in full effect right on the internet.
@Man_Emperor_of_Mankind
@Man_Emperor_of_Mankind 5 күн бұрын
Affirmative action started out (at least in theory) as being pretty fair in my opinion. It was supposed to boil down to between two equally qualified candidates, a candidate from the local community group should be picked. Of course it took about two seconds for the identity politics fanatics to twist it into a new form of racism
@Lefiath
@Lefiath 5 күн бұрын
​@@Man_Emperor_of_MankindI think it's a pretty terrible idea to take a vague concept and turn it into a policy that's easy to abuse and anybody can do it.
@RiskOfBaer
@RiskOfBaer 5 күн бұрын
​@@Man_Emperor_of_Mankind you don't need affirmative action to pick a local candidate. Any sane business when choosing between two equally worthy candidates would pick a local one, it's a no brainier. It's a clear benefit for the employee.
@GrimR
@GrimR 5 күн бұрын
I 100% agree! How is it with millions of cases of discrimination against straight males and against whites (as well as some others) that there is no justice done? None! Everyone just tip toes around it when there are MANY that need to be penalized for it! Absolutely ridiculous!
@scalez9
@scalez9 5 күн бұрын
you mean you are suprised that people are not prosecuting themselves?
@peter486
@peter486 5 күн бұрын
I’m an environment artist. Here is my experience: they hired people who can’t code, or are at a level that is questionable. Designers are on an unhireable level. They hired a bunch of people with no clear role, and a bunch of people who shouldn't even be working gl making a game those useless idiots. they are abuch of emposters
@Musashiden
@Musashiden 5 күн бұрын
Im all for a diverse working environment but it mus be merit based otherwise we get the tourist you've spoken off. Bet they make the working environment hell.
@HacknShred
@HacknShred 5 күн бұрын
Not saying you're wrong, but does the role of environment artist involve coding? You state that people who cannot code or design we're hired, but does your role give you the insight to be able to rate whether someone is good at coding or design? It's certainly possible that you heard this from other people who are coders or designers, and it may be that your role does give insight to these skillsets, but if neither is the case how do you know that people that lack these skillsets are hired exactly?
@zemeekon
@zemeekon 5 күн бұрын
@@HacknShred Because you work as a team and rely on these departments to get anything done. Working as environment artist you can have your work doubled/tripled etc by people lacking the skill sets for these positions. This also applies to the art department or any other cog in development.
@solarydays
@solarydays 5 күн бұрын
@@Musashiden 80% of people in any white collar profession are tourists. nobody ever hired based on merit
@solarydays
@solarydays 5 күн бұрын
@@HacknShred I'm a software engineer by degree so I do have insight on it but also you don't need much insight to see that someone can't make basic functions work, project is not progressing and not meeting deadline, bugs that were not a problem before keep popping up, game engine that was running fine suddenly started crashing every week... these are the type of things that indicate for anyone in the office that your coders don't qualify for the job. do you need to know how to code to notice that something as simple as petting a dog in Assasin's Creed Shadows is not ready for release even tho this is a feature in all their other games? do they need to spend another 10million dollar on " fixes " ?
@TonyMontanaDS
@TonyMontanaDS 6 күн бұрын
My sister is a teacher. Before covid no one in her classes identified as LGBT. The topic would never even come up. Now half her classes claim to be LGBT. How is that even possible? Propaganda!
@wombatillo
@wombatillo 5 күн бұрын
Social contagion, anxiety, aimlessness, etc. It's basically a fad at this point as kids are trying to make sense of this mad world.
@ChaldeaWarmaster
@ChaldeaWarmaster 5 күн бұрын
They all want to be special snowflakes. That is all there is to it.
@BrokensoulRider
@BrokensoulRider 5 күн бұрын
As they get to adulthood trust me when I say they're going to flop right back to things normally.
@wombatillo
@wombatillo 5 күн бұрын
@ They will but there should be push-back so we don't have to wait 5 years. Some of them will also grow up to be badly screwed up. Not all of them will be ok if we just let these social contagions fester and in fact enable them.
@BrokensoulRider
@BrokensoulRider 5 күн бұрын
@@wombatillo We're already seeing the beginning of this now, actually. Remember, this all came to light massively around 2015/2016. Since then, push, push push. Now we're seeing the results of all this push, push, push of this propaganda. If you dig around online especially, you'll find articles of people, for example, regretting transitioning.
@Pyovali
@Pyovali 5 күн бұрын
DEI makes whole teams reduce to lowest common demoninator. In my case, we got a diversity hire who didn't speak the teams language and we all had to start speaking English. One of our senior devs left, that had a huge impact on the teams performance
@alloounou6900
@alloounou6900 5 күн бұрын
As an English speaker, my condolences.
@MilLFeuilles
@MilLFeuilles 5 күн бұрын
Sounds like Montréal...
@hoi-polloi1863
@hoi-polloi1863 5 күн бұрын
@@alloounou6900 As an English *speller* ... my heartfelt sympathies all 'round.
@genrabbit9995
@genrabbit9995 5 күн бұрын
lowest common demoninator was the target way before DEI
@snipermagoo
@snipermagoo 4 күн бұрын
>DEI makes whole teams reduce to lowest common demoninator That's the 'equity' part in the middle. By design.
@510DeshawnPlays
@510DeshawnPlays 6 күн бұрын
I’m so glad someone from Treyarch that worked on my favorite black ops is talking about this, subscribed!
@SabrPath
@SabrPath 6 күн бұрын
Thanks for the support! But just to be transparent, I worked admiration. My name is in the credits, and I did learn to use Radiant to try to get hired as a level designer, but I didn't actually work on the game.
@mattmartin6493
@mattmartin6493 6 күн бұрын
This has infected every industry unfortunately far more than most people realize. Ive seen it in the chemical industry for over 15 years.
@SLRModShop
@SLRModShop 5 күн бұрын
Dude, in web dev, and even console modding we're being flooded with impostors Apparently even Twitch, a streaming platform for games was flooded... But OnlyFans fixed that so that's one less thing to worry about
@egilala9847
@egilala9847 5 күн бұрын
Worse part is the influence of woke in school Kids barely learning human anatomy there and yet they call themselves everything under the sun
@ejkr2051
@ejkr2051 5 күн бұрын
And then wondering why Asia is overtaking the west left and right.😊
@mattmartin6493
@mattmartin6493 5 күн бұрын
@@ejkr2051 feminism in general has destroyed the west all of this nonsense stems from it.
@derek96720
@derek96720 3 күн бұрын
The worst is how this garbage infected academia, which in turn lead to it infecting institutions like that AMA and APA.
@Einygmar
@Einygmar 6 күн бұрын
Great video, very informative. That platinum rule doesn't sound like mutual respect, but something that would only indulge the other person's narcissistic behavior. I think it may be at least partially responsible for the culture of toxic positivity that exists in some big studios today.
@SabrPath
@SabrPath 6 күн бұрын
Absolutely! No rational person would say "Hi, my name is X. This is how I prefer to be treated."
@Mortal_Indeed
@Mortal_Indeed 5 күн бұрын
I genuienly feel bad for that tiny amount of real capable female developer that work their ass off to match their male counter part. Their effort got omitted by the article and went straight to a percentage in the "incapable mental illness" bin.
@ottodeluxe
@ottodeluxe 2 күн бұрын
I started my career in software in 2018. Over two years, I met a bunch of colleagues - male and female - and they all were very well educated, and very competent. When we got two new team members, both female, I was tasked with their onboarding. Both initially lacked confidence, but in a matter of roughly 2 months they were as productive as everyone else, and it was their first job. I was genuinely impressed at how quickly they picked up everything and how motivated and capable they were. They were also cool people to just hang out with and have a chat during lunch break. Everyone got along and worked towards a common goal. These days, I hear tons of stories of men outright refusing to talk to women at their jobs, because some women "me too" a bit too close to the sun when they do not get what they want, and no one believes a guy who gets accused. And you hear about questionable hiring practises everywhere. If women ever had a real chance in predominantly "male jobs", tech, IT, etc. then DEI and (toxic) feminism ruined it. I miss the 2018 days, where a coworker was a coworker, most people were not confused about their gender, and your bedroom life was not discussed in the office, but rather left at home. Disclaimer: I never worked in the games industry, I worked (and still do) in general/business software. Might make a world of a difference as well regarding that experience.
@aguywithlaptopand3dprinter
@aguywithlaptopand3dprinter 5 күн бұрын
Here before asmon make this video into 10 hour content
@macibax
@macibax 5 күн бұрын
that would be great actually, it would get this video the attention it deserves
@GreatRaijin
@GreatRaijin 4 күн бұрын
Hopefully he reacts to this, this video should be spread more
@MaximumPayine
@MaximumPayine 4 күн бұрын
Only complete fools think Asmongold has anything valuable to say
@Fleroshi
@Fleroshi 21 сағат бұрын
@@MaximumPayine not like MaximumPayine! that guy definitely has some value!
@akuskus
@akuskus 5 күн бұрын
I work at a megacorporation and the percentage of people who seemingly have been hired straight from the street is baffling. Like complete baffoons, can't even write or understand simple texts. Everything they create is full of defects and solution design is like a random pile of garbage. Usability is zero, support is unresponsive. Getting their crap to barely work takes ages.
@TheTrippyCh0ng
@TheTrippyCh0ng 3 күн бұрын
basically any corpo these days... this is what happens when you push proefficient independant people out of the system to breed robots and inject them in the world of industry and corpos, people can't be real robots they just pretend... as long as the companies find people to burnout they're fine, it's always been like this in society, out of 10 there's 9 dudes doing the work for 1 and 1 last doing the work for 10, count is 10 dudes do the work of 11 so it seems like groupwork is 10% more effective but in fact there's only 1 dudes working his ass off like a deamon !
@JustSudo
@JustSudo 5 күн бұрын
Good thing this is coming to an end. Even if I'm from Russia, DEI got me, too, because I've been working remotely on a Californian company. With a time, my team's potential started to be undermined with "diversity hires" approved by a special "diversity manager". It's just ludicrous.
@LordLOC
@LordLOC 5 күн бұрын
Not for nothing, but coming from a country that is literally making it illegal to talk about being gay/trans isn't some incredible thing to be proud of. I wouldn't be surprised if Putin literally tries to make actually being gay or trans illegal.
@JustSudo
@JustSudo 5 күн бұрын
​@@LordLOC I also think, there's nothing to be proud of in discrimination (even if "talk about being gay" is not illegal in Russia and never was). That's exactly, why I hate DEI programs. Not only American, of course. Since I live in a "leftist" (in Western sense) country ruled by a person, who's motto's "diversity is our strength", I hate local DEI programs even more. And I hope, American struggle will be a great example for Russians, too.
@kiamehrgh3081
@kiamehrgh3081 5 күн бұрын
​@LordLOC that's a braindead take, I don't have any problems with gay/trans people and iam from Iran, a country in which...you know, so you just sound racist by commenting this
@LordLOC
@LordLOC 5 күн бұрын
@ Uh, what? I wasn't responding to you, I was responding to the OP who mentioned Russia, not Iran. And explain how exactly it's a "brain dead take" when I'm literally bringing up facts about what is going on in Russia? They've literally passed laws to make "LGBTQ propaganda" illegal, and speaking up about it isn't the best idea in Putin's Russia to begin with. How in any way do I sound racist (lol) against Russians?
@LordLOC
@LordLOC 5 күн бұрын
@@kiamehrgh3081 Well, every comment I type out is getting removed. So all I'll say is how am I racist for talking about what's going on in Russia? That's all factual stuff, happening right now.
@ricozkirihara2798
@ricozkirihara2798 5 күн бұрын
It used to be colleagues compete with each other who is more capable. Now its to compete who is more victimised.
@Jaylen510
@Jaylen510 7 сағат бұрын
Glad you made this video! Everything said was extremely sensible and common sense. Sad to see that we are becoming a more divisive society.
@Foreriverricky
@Foreriverricky 5 күн бұрын
I feel like this is relevant to the entire software engineering industry. I used to work at a digital marketing agency as a software developer and they always had those webinars that you speak of in this video. Funny how the more weirdos they hired the more money they lost until eventually they had to sell the agency
@griffonclaw
@griffonclaw 5 күн бұрын
Thanks! Hypnotic brought a lot of positive attention to you and your channel. Excited about your game. God bless.
@SabrPath
@SabrPath 4 күн бұрын
Thanks for the super! I really appreciate it! Did Hypnotic mention me on his live stream?
@griffonclaw
@griffonclaw 4 күн бұрын
@ Yes in glowing terms.
@jokered1133
@jokered1133 6 күн бұрын
Great insight, you hit the nail on it’s head when you said that people who had struggles should be look up to rather then being given benefits, it’s kind of insulting for you to expect less out of someone who has struggled more, you should almost be jealous they had learned and experienced struggles that made them who they are now, stronger and better. It’s very backhanded to cover advantages you give people who have been historically oppressed and call that ‘Empowering’, of course there should be a balance, and what I’m rooting for is having a balanced approach to this compared to what it is now, it’s just benefits that are based on race and are unfair to everyone. Great stuff and I am excited to see you talk and try out your games. Good luck brother!
@SabrPath
@SabrPath 6 күн бұрын
Thanks for the support! I really hate the victim mindset. At one point I thought I was going to be "handicap" for the rest of my life due to my spinal injury. I eventually dropped the victim mindset and changed my life.
@GFXCXZ
@GFXCXZ 5 күн бұрын
Struggles are something everyone faces and no one is owed anything due to historical oppression, especially after they try to pragmatically and cynically use it for profit and political /social power. This idea that a group struggles are uniquely more potent than others, especially when some of those choices are self imposed - not all of them, obviously - demeans the struggles of everyone else nad it's one of the reasons things are the way they are. Each person is a character with their own struggles. Depending on their circumstance and personality some people thrive in conditions that others would consider to be a horrible place to be in, and sometimes vice versa. Each person story and circumstance has to be told by them. Not insinuated and primed beforehand as being uniquely bad. Especially since it's an obvious political and social tool to utilize, and will be utilized, if done so. The simple reality is that a million "non-oppressed" people in a different group probably face harsher, more unqiue and grueling circumstance than all of the "oppressed" combined and are told by such people, many times when they have these special leverages and power given "shut up. The rest of the world is for you. Suffer in silence, in fact only focus on mine"
@jokered1133
@jokered1133 5 күн бұрын
@@SabrPath I am very happy for you, a friend of mine has the same issues, and his mentality is to always be happy, and work with what he can do.
@jokered1133
@jokered1133 5 күн бұрын
@GFXCXZ exactly, there’s always someone more oppressed or more privileged than you are (applies 99% of the population), and that makes being humble just underrated these days. I see them as a cult, a baby-religion if you will, and they are crazed zealots who just go around and indoctrinate. Point is maybe they should learn a thing or two from actual religions, I am Muslim, I am tasked with spreading the word of islam, but that comes second to respecting others and their beliefs no matter how much I disagree, but these people remove logic from the equation so it makes it hard to deal with them, Sabr actually says something amazing in the video, the DEI cult wants you to treat people how they want to be treated and not how you want to be treated, which is a teaching in Islamic texts, these people are trying to innovate so hard, that they are bending core principles that humans abide by and it’s just insanity and I am happy that they’ve delegitimized by the US Government, since now for their points to make sense they need to use common sense and logic instead of being upheld by a government that has no interest in their wellbeing and is just funneling them whatever they wanna hear instead of challenging it. Which is something I often try to do with my religion, is to challenge it and try to debunk it as best as I can which is a big reason I am still a believer honestly, maybe if everyone looked inwards and played devils advocate a bit, they would be able to solve more of their own issues and moral discussions would be easier.
@TheTrippyCh0ng
@TheTrippyCh0ng 3 күн бұрын
I see 2 problems; one is there's always one group of people endind in the low end of the list whatever the criteria, the second and most important is that some people seem to believe and defend ideas that we shouldnt base our hierarchies/privileges in society from individual merit but from abritrary statements that are correlated to a common aknowledged narrative (wich btw isnt historically factual at all) that specifically intend, not to equality but to bring some communities under the level of privileges of others, they're not getting better privileges they just tear other people down to negociate poorly, resulting in harming everyone's privileges and rights for historical vendettas pursued and commited by malicious people for the financial benefits of a few detractors intsrumentalizing their actions. Most of our societal disfunctions are money based, evrytime the bs goes on is because some punk decided to rob people ! When in a group of people, everybody runs for its own self and start abusing trust and common sense to maintain their positions in a statu quo because evrybody knows that everybody is lying at some degree because nobody has no point in achieving anything else than staying in place, yes you might call it politics cuz its the same scheme of bs, but today we can call it modern corporate model i think, and this is why we always find the same kind of people on key positions, because behind them are people who uses ideology to legitimate their authority, this is similar to what cults and sects are doing, and we all know what they're chasing for =>>> money and power to get more money and so on....
@DraekosTV
@DraekosTV 4 күн бұрын
The first time I experienced DEI in a work environment, my very first observation was what an obscure and racist POV it promotes. I honestly couldn't believe the prejudiced filth they were spewing and found it deeply offensive.
@Golemofstone
@Golemofstone 5 күн бұрын
What a refreshing change, for a dev to be totally open and honest about this topic, you and Sungrand Studios are doing fantastic work. Subbed and wishlisted your game, all the best
@SabrPath
@SabrPath 5 күн бұрын
I like Sungrand. He seems cool.
@Golemofstone
@Golemofstone 5 күн бұрын
@@SabrPath Like you, he isn't scared to speak his mind with conviction, honesty and passion for gaming.
@arkgaharandan5881
@arkgaharandan5881 5 күн бұрын
dei hr types and dei consultants are the biggest grifters and yet they call everyone else a grifter.
@dr_diddy
@dr_diddy 5 күн бұрын
Because majority of anti-woke news have no verified source there is no investigative journalist that gets statements from devs or studios to make a story giving them merit. it's all just highly opionated content with baseless claims because they "feel it" Tell me how gina having short hair makes the new indiana jones game woke/dei? How does having an asian space marine makes space marines 2 woke? Sometimes it would be awesome if you'd stfu and just play things you enjoy, be less negative. There's an abundance of games but people are triggered by a select few.
@JacobPaul-ix7oc
@JacobPaul-ix7oc 5 күн бұрын
DEI is part of the Demoralization and Destabilization process of Communist ideological subversion as outlined by Yuri Bezmenov in the mid 1980s. Whether you want to call it woke or Social Justice Activism, these people are only put in place to help destabilize society and then be disposed of once they have fulfilled that purpose. Do you know what reverse psychology is? How about Hegelian dialectic? Controlled opposition? These things work together to achieve a desired result. In the US/West, "progressive Liberals" (called "Useful idiots" by Bezmenov) are used to assert atheistic Marxist ideologies and policies not with the goal of getting people to accept Marxism, but to reject it in favor of the Conservative Fascism as the solution to a growing Marxist/Socialist/Communist problem. The leaders of the corporations are themselves "controlled opposition" doing what the government tells them to do, the useful idiots are the scapegoats who are to be blamed for the destabilization and moral degradation of society. I highly suggest you look up US Public Law One Zero Two dash One Four containing the Jewish Talmud "Seven Laws of Noah". (BTW: I am a German-Swiss-Jew, so please don't go thinking I am being antisemitic or some nonsense for calling this out. As a Christian, I must expose this in order for people to see the truth and not be deceived.) What is the “7 Mountains Mandate” (Dominionism/Dominion Theology)? Supposedly there are 7 “mountains” of global society-Arts and Entertainment, Education, Economy, Family, Government and Military, Media and Religion. (Note: The US voting machines are called “Dominion”.) According to this false teaching, by conquering these 7 “mountains”, the Kingdom of God will be established. So the pendulum swings, now violently, now slowly; and every institution not only carries within it the seeds of its own dissolution, but prepares the way for its most hated rival. William Ralph Inge "Democracy and the Future" The Atlantic Monthly (March 1922) --The atheistic, Liberal Marxist institution in the seven "mountains" has prepared the way for their most hated rivals, Ultra-orthodox Religious Conservative Fascists, to come to power. The following is a partial listing of the Noa(hide) Laws as derived from the Babylonian Talmud. Three of these Laws require the d3ath penalty by (head removal) when broken: Blasphemy, Idolatry and Sexual Immorality. (Note: Unlike in the Old and New Testament teaching “By the mouth of two or more witnesses..”, these Laws only require one accuser for the accused to be brought to the courts and condemned. Perhaps now you may understand why "Cancel Culture" exists. Go down to "Justice Laws" below if you don't want to read all of this, though you really should.) Idolatry: Must worship God alone. Must not worship any man (ie: Jesus) as God. (This is warned about in John 16:1-3, 2 Peter 2:1-3) No idols or statues. Do not bow to idols or statues. Do not offer sacrifices to idols or statues. Blasphemy: Do not curse God. Do not use God's name in vain. Worship the true God alone, do not worship false gods. (Worshiping Jesus is also seen as blasphemy.) Murder: Against murdering anyone, self defense is permitted. Mass murderers will be given the death penalty. (Abortion is classified as mass murder.) Theft--Do not: Steal. Rob. Overcharge -Have you noticed how many of today’s large corporations seem to be pushing the “progressive” message about “fairness, PRIDE, tolerance, inclusion, diversity, equity” while also overcharging for their products? And how many of these corporations are known to overwork and underpay their workers, reaping huge profits for themselves as they commit wage theft? Kidnap. Move a landmark. (Probably not good for BLM/Antifa activists who tear down historical landmarks.) Do not use false weights and measurements Do Not Covet Sexual Immorality-No: Bestiality Incest Homosexuality Justice Laws-Against: *Bribery* *Favoritism* --Hiring or promoting a person based off of intersectionality checklists rather than skill and merit is not "equality", it's favoritism. Condemning the Innocent Must- Administer the death penalty Treat people equally before the law
@HardyLeBel-c9r
@HardyLeBel-c9r 6 күн бұрын
Love your channel, and your unvarnished commentary. Keep it up, brother! 🙏
@SabrPath
@SabrPath 6 күн бұрын
Thanks for the support! I'm glad you enjoy the content.
@PEEERRRR
@PEEERRRR 5 күн бұрын
"won't be lectured to pull a barv" you just earned a sub lmao.
@SabrPath
@SabrPath 5 күн бұрын
I'm glad you appreciate my humor 😂
@Cie_Kite
@Cie_Kite 5 күн бұрын
While the original and theoretical purpose of DEI is honorable (essentially, "leave nobody behind"), it has quickly morphed into an abominable, toxic, and vengeful ideology. Instead of striving to "be better" and working toward a healthier and more balanced industry, DEI has sunk even lower than what it claims to fight against. Hatred is what fuels DEI now, and nothing good can come out of it. Being a good and decent human being already achieve way more things than DEI.
@Tunneltoo
@Tunneltoo 2 күн бұрын
Well said! I wish everyone could know this...
@Thial92
@Thial92 5 күн бұрын
KZbin won't let me talk about this. One wrong word and the comment gets deleted.
@guilherme5094
@guilherme5094 5 күн бұрын
Same.
@The8bitbeard
@The8bitbeard 5 күн бұрын
I've been slowly learning what's allowed and what's not. It's complex and hard to get around sometimes.
@themonsterunderyourbed9408
@themonsterunderyourbed9408 5 күн бұрын
​@@The8bitbeardit also changes constantly.
@haurg7418
@haurg7418 5 күн бұрын
Yep, Google svck.
@MaximumPayine
@MaximumPayine 4 күн бұрын
U especially can't taak about the Jen 0 side al dem0nz in the midal east
@miiiiikeee
@miiiiikeee 4 күн бұрын
asmon brought me here! just earned a subscriber! keep up the good work!
@stekarknugen9258
@stekarknugen9258 5 күн бұрын
I'd argue merit isn't simply technical skill. Merit is overall actual ability to make a good product.
@HorseshoeSW
@HorseshoeSW 5 күн бұрын
Yeah, you defined skill.
@mitchellterry4961
@mitchellterry4961 4 күн бұрын
Merit also includes being a decent human
@Gameprojordan
@Gameprojordan 4 күн бұрын
Technical skill + being able to work with your team
@TheTrippyCh0ng
@TheTrippyCh0ng 3 күн бұрын
The question is what do you value as merit ? How do you grade different sources/arguments of merit based on what scale ? This is a real question, would you credit the same value to someone who performs greatly with a non destructive but ethically reprehensible strategy than you would to someone who performs poorly with an ethical strategy ? What do you value the most between efficiency and morality ? Funny thing is people behind validation of DEI in corpos are supposed to give more value to efficiency to please investors and such, and i think that the immoral way they messed with DEI to just make money on LGBTQ will be taken as an argument in favor of the efficiency even though its factually the opposite, meaning its gonna get worse for people working in these companies for years until the high councils take accountability for what really happened.
@LegendaryErebus
@LegendaryErebus 5 күн бұрын
I graduated college for game art/development 3 years ago. Still have yet to get into the industry...
@SabrPath
@SabrPath 5 күн бұрын
It's rough. My first position was in Administration, and it was supposed to be a temporary position to get my foot in the door. I was there for 3 years and they never hired me as a level designer. There are too many applicants and not enough job openings. This is one of the many reasons why I started Sabr Path so I can continue to make games on my own rather than try to do the near impossible task to landing a job.
@jextra1313
@jextra1313 5 күн бұрын
Same, I was one of the best in the class, granted I don't think anyone in my class except for one girl works in the industry now.
@LegendaryErebus
@LegendaryErebus 5 күн бұрын
@@jextra1313 A girl and I was talking she graduated the same time as me. within one month she was hired on to a company. I graduated with a 3.9 gpa. now 3 years later I do many Udemy classes and have added numerous certificates to my resume from animation, unreal engine, modular asset making etc. I still cant' get in the industry. I also talked to many senior lead artist and asked to review my portfolio to see where I could improve or what I needed to focus on to improve my odds. Each one I talked to gave me different responses. Which each feedback i went back and I added to my portfolio etc. and still nothing.
@cliftongardner4367
@cliftongardner4367 4 күн бұрын
One of the best and most succinct discussions on the topic that I have seen, thank you for speaking up. I agree wholeheartedly with all your points, and as a gamer, I can say that I don’t care if the entire team making a game is white, black, male, female, able-bodied, disabled, young, old, whatever. I care that a game is *fun* and prioritizes the player’s experience over ideological sermonizing. Unfortunately, hiring people based on how much of a narcissist they are about their identity is a great way to ensure that, no matter the skill level of the developer, nothing will ever be done with a shred of care for what the player experiences.
@zachb8012
@zachb8012 5 күн бұрын
If the majority of engineers are straight men it is mathematically impossible to compose 60% of your industry as women or LGBT2SBIPOCQ+ without lowering the standards of acceptance. Checking these boxes has become a career incentive. It's wild... because... you think there weren't gay dudes building games for the last 25 years? There's been a lot of them, but all this stuff is new, it's something else.
@InciniumVGC
@InciniumVGC 5 күн бұрын
Exactly, this was never needed because teams were diverse before.
@nirorit
@nirorit 5 күн бұрын
@@InciniumVGCbecause the world is naturally diverse (bonus points if you recognize who said that)
@N4chtigall
@N4chtigall 5 күн бұрын
@@nirorit Not really. World is naturally diverse if you live in blue states in USA or in multi-culti cities like London or Berlin. In most places in the world population is very homogenous. And there is nothing wrong with that. Also in reality percentage of people who are part of LGBT is much smaller than studies say.
@mitchellterry4961
@mitchellterry4961 4 күн бұрын
Specifically designed to rot companies from the inside out.
@pogue6327
@pogue6327 5 күн бұрын
Hypnotic just streamed your video...here to give a Thumbs up Great job speaking out
@kukukachu
@kukukachu 5 күн бұрын
What's most important is hiring the right person for the job.
@jty9631
@jty9631 5 күн бұрын
Good that you mentioned rapport. Especially in an environment where teamwork is so important. When I'm building a team in competitive games -- which I've done in the past, I don't always just pick the most skilled player. I pick players who I can come to an understanding with, and who will be willing to spend time for everyone to be on the same page. Because you can grow together, and learn how to get better together. But in a sense, this could be called "merit" as well.
@patrickhouchins9074
@patrickhouchins9074 5 күн бұрын
Someone send this video to Asmon
@patrickhouchins9074
@patrickhouchins9074 4 күн бұрын
lol asmon actually reacted
@kcidermanstuff3385
@kcidermanstuff3385 3 күн бұрын
I tweeted it to him 2 days ago! Looks like others did to ; )
@bearimprint5214
@bearimprint5214 5 күн бұрын
My wife works in a company equivalent to a major games studio, such as Ubisoft or Bethesda. For the past 4 or 5 years, the best people have been leaving one after the other because of the increasingly unbearable atmosphere within the company. At the time, there were barely 40% women and 20% juniors (new recruits who had never really worked, but knew the job and were learning from the seniors). In short, today there are 80% women and over 60% juniors in the company, and it's getting worse by the day as the few very good ones who are left wait for the first opportunity to leave, as they have to do ALL the work, since most of the new recruits have no idea what the job is. It's not even that they don't know the company itself, no, they do NOT know the job they've supposedly been hired to do. Things are so bad that the company has stopped paying for team meetings once every 4 months (to keep the staff together) in restaurants. Now it's the employees who have to pay for their own restaurant/company meeting. A disaster.
@leandroatreides
@leandroatreides 5 күн бұрын
Due to the influence of DEI policies in the game industry, it seems to be a case of ideology clashing with profit. Ubisoft, for example, is reportedly facing financial struggles-it had to close all its studios-and Bioware (EA) is heading in the same direction. Broadly speaking, there are different types of companies. Some will hire individuals with only the basic skills required for the job, allowing them to gain experience and eventually move on to larger companies that require more expertise. That’s how the system generally works. Hiring people without ensuring they meet at least the foundational requirements for a role does neither the company nor the individuals any favors. While meritocracy does play a role at every level, factors like social skills, the ability to work in teams, and leadership potential are also important-and that’s where the interview process comes into play.
@IVANGUARDI
@IVANGUARDI 5 күн бұрын
This video should be viewed by anyone with an interest in the gaming industry. Thank you for all the clear information. Please share more of your insights on this topic.
@thedapperfoxtrot
@thedapperfoxtrot 4 күн бұрын
Really rational opinions here. Especially when you touched on team chemistry and rapport as considerations beyond merit. Giving me hope 🙏
@sevnsinnz6468
@sevnsinnz6468 12 сағат бұрын
5:15. Exactly why these programs were created. This guy will hire his buddy with BASIC skills over a more qualified applicant because he's "comfortable" with him. Thanks for highlighting this. People like this don't want the best, they want individuals that look like them that they are comfortable being around. Period.
@laxelford3533
@laxelford3533 5 күн бұрын
The best diversity in cultures and storytelling in games comes from the love of said cultures from the devlopers, not forcing it. They have gaslit themselves into thinking gamers hate seeing other cultures in games, and in my 20 years of playing video games this seems like the polar opposite of the truth
@lonewiso
@lonewiso 5 күн бұрын
coming from the Atari 2600 generation and seeing what video games have become today it breaks my heart. Us gamers play video games to escape reality not to be lecture or told what to think or say. The gaming community is fighting back with our wallets by not buying any of this crap and Video game companies are feeling the pain now. I hope one day we can go back to the Battlefield 3 days, to the Halo 3 , God of War 3, MAG, Metal Gear days... but somehow i know we will never go back to those awesome years. I remember not too long ago, gamers were labeled as "losers" that lived in our mom's basements and we were all super fat. Now compaines realized how smart the gaming community is and how much we love it so they have decided to monitized every single minute we play any video game but i am getting off topic. Anyways, thank you for this video sir and hope all this poison in the gaming industry finally goes away. The gaming community has always been so accepting of everyone around the world. Let me ask you all a question, When was the last time you asked someone their race or gender before you added them to your friends list?? Let me help you out... NEVER! Here is the Truth of what happens before we add someone to our friends....We take out an impossible boss together or win a ranked match so we add each other so we can continue playing together. Along the way we find more and more players like us so we all become good friends. I bet you money that if you start to think of all your friends that you play with, you will realized that every single one of them comes from either another country or from another part of the country you in and NEVER ONCE thought about if you should or should not be friends with them if they were a certain race or gender. DEI only creates hate between the gaming community and this POISON needs to go away forever.
@RobT192
@RobT192 4 күн бұрын
Came here from Asmongold's video on this, wanted to subscribe and show some love. Awesome video and you bring up great points
@greggcellente
@greggcellente 5 күн бұрын
Glad this video is blowing up. I’ve gone through your backlog and you put out great content.
@SabrPath
@SabrPath 5 күн бұрын
I appreciate the support! Glad you enjoy the content.
@SleepyPupper
@SleepyPupper 4 күн бұрын
Asmon and chat loved the video, thank you! This need to be seen more, leaving a comment and liking. Subbed.
@frankmg4250
@frankmg4250 5 күн бұрын
Primo video che vedo di questo canale, sono pienamente daccordo con quello che dici, non sono solito a commentare, ma per gli dei di KZbin sacrifico un commento e un like per boostare il canale, continua con il bel lavoro
@williambrulip512
@williambrulip512 5 күн бұрын
Your video deserve so many more views than it has. Hopefully, the algorithm will help boost it up at some point. Glad it popped up in my recommended list. Leaving this comment to help contribute boosting this video into the algorithm.
@Muizemullard414
@Muizemullard414 5 күн бұрын
Commenting for the algorithm. More people need to see this and see whats its really like and the harmful effects it has.
@Lefiath
@Lefiath 5 күн бұрын
You make a very good point about people being hired based off being a good fit to a team, rather than individual abilities. As a freelancer, I see a lot of companies, and some that I work with for a long time can show issues, eroding from inside, because the employees just aren't working together well enough. The best candidate should be the best candidate for the company, and that might be a less expended person with better personality. I have however never heard of a DIY hire to make things better.
@spitbleach
@spitbleach 5 күн бұрын
I'm a woman dev. I one had an HR director (woman) gather all the women to watch Hilary Clinton be chosen as the Dem nominee in her office. I'm pretty sure there were a few conservative women in the bunch. It was probably one of the most awkward things I've ever had to sit through lol. She was very into DEI initiatives. I was in the office next to her and could overhear EVERYTHING that went on in that office through the wall, and I'm pretty sure she is the most evil person I've known (loved by everyone of course). Most HR/DEI managers in the game industry are actively evil.
@rphntw1n
@rphntw1n 3 күн бұрын
Got any video? Recordings?
@spitbleach
@spitbleach 3 күн бұрын
@@rphntw1n No, and to be honest, even if I did I would not speak out about this particular company because I had a feeling they were connected to the mob?? Which sounds strange to say about a freaking game company, but it's what the company's rumor mill said. There were internal rumors of money laundering and higher-ups being gifted live-in escorts. Business decisions were made during multi-day cocaine binges. So there was this DEI veneer for the underlings, but everything the Director level was absolutely wild. Weirdest company.
@imran8880
@imran8880 19 сағат бұрын
@@spitbleach That's the real corporate America business. Mafia mobsters never left America
@CandyChan2103
@CandyChan2103 Күн бұрын
Indie Horror without DEI, nice! i pre-order it, hope your game is fun and not have bugs when it came out ok! Love the video!
@Christian-pw5ws
@Christian-pw5ws 4 күн бұрын
Thanks for taking the time to produce this video. Pretty informative. As someone in a position to hire new employees, I can better understand the biases that are happening in the hiring process. Thanks again.
@thisguy4505
@thisguy4505 4 күн бұрын
I work for a company which is involved with some of the biggest gaming brands out there. When I (white/straight/male) was hired, the CEO made a point to mention how they were working to improve their "diversity" because they didn't have enough black folx, despite us living in a Whitey McWhiterstan section of the country. A few months later, there were 3 new hires on the team: one 🏳️‍🌈 white guy, one black guy, and one black female immigrant. The black female immigrant could barely string two sentences together during meetings and was let go after some months. The 🏳️‍🌈 guy has clear-as-day autism and is.. interesting, let's say.. to work with. The black guy is pretty cool; he does good work. It was clear that there was a heavy thumb on the scale during the hiring process.. maybe I'm overqualified for the role 🤷🏻 I have nothing against black people, women, or immigrants (a short description of my wife). I just wish we were hiring based on merit, and nothing else.
@TheFurnace69
@TheFurnace69 4 күн бұрын
You got the Asmon bump.
@AP90x
@AP90x 5 күн бұрын
What was in place at around 2000-2012? Because that is a time frame where I feel like we got the best games and I don’t remember people not being able to get jobs due to race or gender but im absolutely sure that women, g’y people and other ethnicities where still making those games.
@Man_Emperor_of_Mankind
@Man_Emperor_of_Mankind 5 күн бұрын
DEI practices were just starting to pick up towards the end of that time frame.
@upsidedownmachiatto2670
@upsidedownmachiatto2670 5 күн бұрын
Just like that meme about Disney being great at diversity when it wasn't their focus and now that it is, it's turned to crap. Shows like Brother Bear, Lilo & Stitch etc. were all "diverse," but they were good.
@UniqueBreakfastTaco
@UniqueBreakfastTaco 5 күн бұрын
Meritocracy. Then Obama wrecked everything
@Arcademan09
@Arcademan09 5 күн бұрын
Nerds hiring/recommending other nerds for the best job and we had nerds who actually cared about their game. Now we have a bunch on terminally online losers who can't handle pressure, can't handle criticism, have zero work ethic, can't work hard, can't be a team player, overly sensitive HR departments, investors who have zero ideas how games work, veteran workers getting replaced by clowns who have no idea what they're doing... I could keep going on
@RaidenRkD
@RaidenRkD 5 күн бұрын
I'd say the mid 2000's is when Western AAA games started taking off, and in the early 2010's, in the circles I was in, many believed that games needed to become "interactive stories" at the expense of gameplay.
@Reverendpickle
@Reverendpickle 3 күн бұрын
im so glad someone in the industry is talking about this with honesty. its almost like you need a consultant or a webinar for everything now, even though KZbin is FREE
@andymender7190
@andymender7190 5 күн бұрын
I like how reasoned and down to earth your take on DEI is. I wish more people would speak out about this silliness.
@thedayofquicksilver6930
@thedayofquicksilver6930 4 күн бұрын
Yikes, dude! Sorry you had to go through that. It sounds dystopian.
@theatfshotmydog8224
@theatfshotmydog8224 5 күн бұрын
Funny thing to me is, they say DEI isn’t a bad thing yet get mad when you call someone a DEI hire 😂
@JoeOvercoat
@JoeOvercoat 2 күн бұрын
4:06 “DON’T BELIEVE YOUR LYING EYES!”
@bengalbrown2834
@bengalbrown2834 5 күн бұрын
“Forced behavioral change” -Larry Fink Blackrock
@evilhobocheeky1280
@evilhobocheeky1280 3 күн бұрын
He clearly never studied history, Lol
@digitaldevil7522
@digitaldevil7522 5 күн бұрын
Your insights are fascinating. Thank you for taking the time to share your experience. Subscribed. 👍
@4newestaccoun
@4newestaccoun 3 күн бұрын
Salam, thanks for speaking on this topic. Never seen your videos but will definitely stick around to watch more God willing
@tactless413
@tactless413 4 күн бұрын
Who else is here from the baldys Roach Community? Great video and thanks for the insight.
@terrnoisrp8894
@terrnoisrp8894 4 күн бұрын
Miss the stream hut watch the video. Here for the support
@stevestrangelove4970
@stevestrangelove4970 5 күн бұрын
5:50 something people forget is that good chemistry with coworkers is incredible important. We arent robots and good socialization can improve our workflow way more than having a Davinci at our side. Also having a terrible coworker is the worst experiense.
@MrTrueCaller619
@MrTrueCaller619 Күн бұрын
Facts
@The_Damoiselle
@The_Damoiselle 5 күн бұрын
Oh yeah... I actually had to go through this just two months ago. I also work in the game industry, and the training was mandatory. And when I was going through it, I was insulted. It was trying to tell me to acknowledge my privilege and that I am biased. I was so frustrated, and this was a 'test' that a child could pass, they handheld you through the entire process. It was horrible and I was like 'why are you so focused on saying this guy is Nigerian... and BLACK' you don't need to say that. You can just say the person is Nigerian. I feel like DEI is doing more harm than good. And there was a study at the University of Toronto, done by a woman, who says that it reinforces the stereotypes and if someone wasn't biased def ends up being it. It's pretty maddening, would love to hear your experience. I've had several talks that turned out to be pretty productive.
@kloikbrand1475
@kloikbrand1475 4 күн бұрын
Love to see more stories from the inside. It's very important that we get rid of this and not to be quiet about it. Very constructive critique! Let's continue bringing scrutiny to this, cause it's ruining the industry we love.
@robertkolb2288
@robertkolb2288 5 күн бұрын
I'm gonna watch for your games on Steam, you got my support.
@HutchinsonJC
@HutchinsonJC 4 күн бұрын
I watched your video on Asmongold, so even though I'll only watch the 12secs here before I hit pause, I just wanted to pop over and say that the video was great, that it was appreciated, and that you've got a good head on your shoulders. Hope my comment & like gives traction.
@The_Greedy_Orphan
@The_Greedy_Orphan Күн бұрын
I did it the other way round, I saw this video on amisgold, and then immediately searched this up after 10 seconds because I wanted to watch it without the constant interruption and commentary.
@SabrPath
@SabrPath 6 күн бұрын
What’s your opinion on DEI in the gaming industry? Have you experienced any initiatives firsthand? Share your thoughts below!
@andyandrew2453
@andyandrew2453 5 күн бұрын
Honestly ? Not a very good one... When you combine something like DEI with video games it turn out in s**t. I wish there will be a rule that force studios not to promote those kind of things or mark all the DEI games with a tag for players to know not to bother with it.
@lostvayne9146
@lostvayne9146 5 күн бұрын
DEI is for the mentally ill. That simple.
@Tharros95
@Tharros95 5 күн бұрын
I've only heard of one DEI policy that I agree with - removing names and photos on resumes to remove race and gender biases. I think this does ensure a more merit based evaluation. Everything else about DEI is incredibly repulsive.
@STOTTINMAD
@STOTTINMAD 5 күн бұрын
Not in gaming but my company have some training related to this stuff and it's hilarious
@hasseo195
@hasseo195 5 күн бұрын
Its useless. No one needs it. It makes all thing much worse.
@martinportelance138
@martinportelance138 5 күн бұрын
As a part-time RPG designer, I too make some differences between male (more strength and size) and female (more agility and grace) characters, to add more diversity, paradoxically. That being said some women are still stronger than some men etc etc etc.
@The8bitbeard
@The8bitbeard 5 күн бұрын
I would love to see an RPG that takes the differences between men and women seriously. Like the world record deadlift for men is twice that of women, so stats in an RPG would reflect double the potential maximum strength in men vs. women. I also think the challenges women could face in a more male-oriented society, like in a medieval European style RPG, make for more interesting storytelling. Like, the real life story of Joan of Arc is interesting BECAUSE she's a woman in a very male dominated society. Forcing her to be on equal footing with men would take away everything interesting about that tale.
@plain_simple_garak
@plain_simple_garak 5 күн бұрын
The USMC did a study regarding physical fitness and combat readiness standards, which can be found online. The results were that the bottom quintile of male marines overlapped with the top quintile of female marines. So the very best of the women were roughly equivalent to the lowest performing men
@haurg7418
@haurg7418 5 күн бұрын
Well agility would still be a man thing
@martinportelance138
@martinportelance138 5 күн бұрын
@@haurg7418 Raw speed, maybe. Think of gymnastics or figure skating at the Olympics, for exemple, where women performence are more popular than the guys'.
@haurg7418
@haurg7418 5 күн бұрын
@@martinportelance138 idk, agility: "ability to move quickly and easily. "though he was without formal training as dancer or athlete, his physical agility was inexhaustible" ability to think and understand quickly. "games teach hand-eye coordination, mental agility, and alertness" men can do anything honestly...
@mthulisindzombane5623
@mthulisindzombane5623 5 күн бұрын
Cheers to you brudda. Hopefully more people speak out about this going forward
@leonkenedy4616
@leonkenedy4616 4 күн бұрын
All the best for your studio and future projects.
@RenCode
@RenCode 4 күн бұрын
Asmon was here
@waldrichlee305
@waldrichlee305 5 күн бұрын
Mabuhay from the Philippines, thanks for a great video
@RealDevastatia
@RealDevastatia 5 күн бұрын
Hypnotic reacted to this video on stream tonight.
@mysteryneophyte
@mysteryneophyte 4 күн бұрын
I really appreciate that you made this video I think you are a brave person. I think that because many people would likely fear doing this could possibly hurt their present employment or any potential employment they may try to get working in the video games industry. Your video was very well made and you did a good job.
@MrSilver222
@MrSilver222 4 күн бұрын
Thank you for your insight into this issue, not everyone is brave enough to speak out against this crap in fear of being canceled
@billkozac7974
@billkozac7974 4 күн бұрын
The problem is if people had came out about these things 10 + years ago the problem would never have gotten this far. Everyone is coming out now because it's allowed now..
@korigun
@korigun 4 күн бұрын
Asmongold Editors said that we subscribe here or Asmon gets fired
@n3bulav876
@n3bulav876 4 күн бұрын
One thing I loved is when Thegamer reported on how the lords of the fallen devs said they weren’t going to integrate any DEI elements into their games and thegamer spinned it in a way to try to say how DEI wasn’t bad and tried to bring in other examples of why games that included it failed. No integrity as always and they won’t call it out cause they don’t want to lose brownie points with the developers or lose their standing with them, disgraceful
@phynx-victumterra652
@phynx-victumterra652 4 күн бұрын
Stealth games are right up my alley so I am glad youtube recommended me your channel
@vorpine
@vorpine 5 күн бұрын
+1 for my wish list. Looking forward to see how your upcoming title does on release.
@Cleric-Heretic
@Cleric-Heretic 4 күн бұрын
Based! Thank you for revealing the truth! 👍
@jcasetnl
@jcasetnl Күн бұрын
I'm a half-brown guy. It wasn't until around 2012 that anyone ever said anything like, "As a person of color yourself, surely you agree that...." And if I didn't nod my head in agreement and play the role of victim, the responses ranged from confusion to anger. How dare I not be their proverbial little Tortilla Boy riding my donkey to the town square to humbly sell my hand-made tortillas to support my obviously poor and hard-working family! That's when I started to realize the left and democrats were losing the plot (and I still consider myself mainly a centrist democrat). These identities strip people of their INDIVIDUALITY with the promise "you're joining the righteous or winning team, but you'll have to shut up and go along". It's just candy-coated racism that allows certain people to look down on others "because it's for the right reasons." It's dopamine hits for sheep (but how could I be a sheep when I have a PhD?). In just about every respect we were more evolved past this trash back in the '90s and early '00s. Social media has breathed new life into moral tribalism, which is nearly identical in most features to religion and cults, but which its adherents think is "different this time" because there's no magic man in the sky. The last 15 years of this nonsense are a frightening insight into a not insignificant population that lacks the desire to engage in critical thought, even when the ability and education for critical thought are present. I will even go so far to say they make the case for the existence of religion as a way to corral and direct people whose motivations and survival strategies revolve around being on "Team Morality Police". Some really smart person a long time ago saw this and realized they had to direct that energy toward pro-social causes, and an organized religion was an efficient way to do it. After all, you see what happens when they're left to their own devices and their 'churches' are twitter and bluesky.
@JessicaMcCarney-n3h
@JessicaMcCarney-n3h Күн бұрын
The left exploit minorities in order to present themselves as something really great, they basically don't care about you, they're only interested in elevating themselves morally and acting as a mouthpiece for everyone. In return, you have to give them your voice and confirm what great people they are.
@SabrPath
@SabrPath Күн бұрын
In 2011, Occupy Wallstreet was a protest that everyone agreed on. In 2012, propaganda was legalized. The big wigs at the top want us to fight each other and not them.
@WozLee
@WozLee 3 күн бұрын
My experiences were mostly based in freelance, but I've had friends who often gripe about how women are promoted with break neck speed through the industry. They get hired on as a runner, 2 weeks later they're a junior something rotoscoping basic shapes or laying out UVs. A month later they're in the production pipeline despite barely having any ability to manage their own work load, 6 months later they're a senior something and think they actually deserve it because at this point their rotoscoping and UV layouts are actually okay. Then like 18 months to 2 years in they're a producer, and growing jaded because they believe nobody is listening to their ideas or taking them seriously because they're a woman. When in reality the reason people are being dimissive is because they know she would still be texture painting hubcaps. or worse (assuming she had even been hired at all), if she didn't have a vagina.
@sneakyrune
@sneakyrune 5 күн бұрын
Dude thank you for speaking out about this!! We need to share this out so other developers feel they can speak out against the DEI agenda.
@ElfireII
@ElfireII 5 күн бұрын
Im glad you also included "belonging" in your description. The people pushing dei have started changing around the words.
@dimos6347
@dimos6347 5 күн бұрын
My opinion... Well, lets just say that i am anti-woke/DEI to a high degree. As for whether it should be merit-based i will just point to Valve making 19 mil in profits per employee. But at the same time one shouldnt be prioritized due to past merits but judged by his new merits at new work. Sure, past merits are important but people change.