Avatar Frontiers of Pandora vs Red Dead Redemption 2 - Physics and Details Comparison

[@EXMachina.]

I think RDR2 is the only game that done horses behavior right, instead of being a Flesh Vehicle they actually react to the surroundings.

[@matheuspimentel5828]

Its not the same level of detail and behavior but I actually like the Breath of the Wild and tears of the kingdom horsers unfortunaly they became useless after 10 minutes of gameplay

[@alexandre.m]

Imo they pushed the horses realistic behaviour too far, it can become annoying at times especially since its the only way to travel the map. Too much realism doesn't necesarily make the gameplay optimal

[@EXMachina.]

@@alexandre.m actually it makes more fun by making moments more chaotic, i remember a shootout that broke in Saint Denis and a horse that was parked with a carriage behind it got spooked by the gunshots and started to ran over every pedestrian on the sidewalk.

[@brendanlove9739]

@@alexandre.m The horses aren’t that realistic. They’re just realistic enough to not feel like, as the original comment said, flesh vehicles. It’s the perfect blend of gameplay with realism, just like the rest of the game

[@alexandre.m]

@@brendanlove9739 the horses slowing down on bridges, running 20 miles away as soon as they see a little flame, and their low stamina is what annoys me the most. Still one of the best horse system out there, but I feel like they could have made a few things more enjoyable

[@raimee81]

When loading into my game at St Denis, Arthur was on the balcony of a fancy saloon at night. I glanced at the string of bulbs hanging on the railing as they were up close to the camera. Thought at first they were jaggy pixels but realized, they actually put the glowing filament in each frigging light bulb. Wth kind of attention to detail is that?!

[@TubeRoach1]

Haha. I saw the same thing. But if you look close you’ll see the are flat images rotating with you when you go around them. Would be very expensive to render these in full 3D. The big lamps are full 3D though!

[@Varelinski]

Other companies make games; whilst Rockstar makes art.

[@BisexualPlagueDoctor]

@@Varelinskibefore making the most obnoxious online mode known to man

[@waffler-yz3gw]

@@BisexualPlagueDoctorrdr2's online mode does have one use though: the reprocussions for mindless violence are much lower so it's easier to play casually

[@I_live_inside_your_walls]

@@waffler-yz3gwit’s also very fun to goof around in with your friends 😂

[@jakegeneral2]

in RDR2, I was glassing with the binoculars when i spotted 2 deer. one was dead with its antlers interlocked with the other one who was fighting to get free. shit was wild

[@cryingwatercolours]

did you free ir

[@aiiiia9971]

Holy shit. Crazy attention to detail in this game

[@kevincoon1809]

😂I saw that too.

[@PelicanPsychanalyste]

De toute façon rdr2 enterre absolument tout les jeux d'ubi et même la plupart d'autres studio, je parle bien d'aujourd'hui alors que le jeu est sorti depuis 6 ans, nous devons faire front ensemble pour lutter conte le w et la dégradation du jeu vidéo, nous devons boycotter ce qui n'est pas au niveau pour les gros studios, c'est comme le dernier star wars j'aurais adoré le faire si il n'y avait cette propagande w si le jeu avait été terminer correctement, encore un chef d'œuvre potentiel gâché pour cette cause qui détruit tout sur son passage. Je suis très sérieux il faut se battre pour défendre nos droits, pour notre liberté, même si c'est du jeu vidéo, sinon il finiront par matrixé la pensée de la planète entière et le retour en arrière sera impossible.

[@christianlucy3053]

I had this encounter as well. it made me go WOW out load. Amazing detail

[@Mrvincenzo2012]

Yesterday i killed a wild boar on rdr2. When i was about to skin it. I got distracted by a random drunk npc who just wanted a friend to talk to. After i was done i went back to skin my boar... 3 coyotes we're munching on it. Ruined the pelt complety, couldn't even skin it anymore. Game is insane lol

[@AYoutubeUser0]

bingo!! you can kill those 3 cyote instead.

[@USCanDoBetter]

I was trying to do one of those GOD DAMN collections where you needed a perfect snake skin. Took out my bow and before I could knock a blunted arrow a hawk grabbed it! Another time I had a Legendary that you could fit whole on a horse (maybe a fish) and I was going to deliver it and a cougar jumped, pulled me off, and killed me! I can never find one when I need it’s pelt but when my back is turned and I’m right in the middle of something one always gets me! Amazing.

[@swoop-in]

thats is one more reason to play rdr2 rather then this game

[@GamerholicRexz]

Bro... This is really a different level of rating a game 😁... We all agree RDR2 is best of all time 👍🏻

[@Flowz2023]

Da fuck? Is Pandora new? Rdr2 so much better

[@ruecumbers]

They put so much love and such an insane amount of work into all the intricate details in RDR2. Its an absolute disgrace that they just left the online version to die.

[@CryptidRenfri]

I still play RDO almost daily, it's one of my favourite games, but yeah, I see how much wasted potential it has and it pains me. I personally enjoy it a lot and think it's great, but it could have been so much better.

[@9965paul]

GTA 6

[@terrancek1998]

Gotta be playing rp​@@CryptidRenfri

[@blakemeteer7039]

@@CryptidRenfri Bro....RDRO. I play religiously, fr I cannot get enough. Updates outlaw passes or not. Wish they would bring them back though.

[@Demion83]

When online came out, I stopped playing 1 player immediately, because I really feel strongly about creating my own characters and telling my own story, however, online was so shitty and unpleasant I stopped playing pretty quickly, and then never went back to 1 player even though it was amazing. Wish they didn't bother bringing out online.

[@manfredweigele2369]

RDR2 is 5 Years old and can still keep up with current Games.

[@mistermiyagi6073]

it's blowing them out of the water in every department. From graphics to gameplay to physics to story. The only problem with RDR2 is that it's super boring

[@FardeenKhan-we1ku]

it isnt keeping up

[@weerteft14]

​@@mistermiyagi6073its not boring it depends on the person

[@manfredweigele2369]

@@slightly_sloped Danke für den Hinweis Sie Klugscheisser.

[@SirTactic]

@@mistermiyagi6073 how is it boring, have u done anything otherr than main story line?

[@dylanplumley280]

The close ups with the faces made me bust out laughing for some reason. You have the majestic blue alien, then happy old Arthur with a beard.

[@Jaeger48]

Idk about majestic lol

[@izabelawilson]

My Arthur were always shaved ans clean ❤

[@Mathinblog]

​@@Jaeger48 excuse me?

[@GRXKZ]

The blue guy Face is stupid, it looks like the Smurf cat

[@RoachDoggJr26]

4:14 oh yeah…majestic’s the word

[@Danniiboy9119]

Red dead 2 is now almost 6 years old, and it STILL rivals most aaa games with the amount of detail the developers put into the game. Read dead 2 was FAR ahead of its time. It's still one of my favorite games and probably will be for a long time. I started replaying it again just a couple of weeks ago and I'm still finding details I missed, and I'm STILL amazed at the details and graphics the game has. The story is phenomenal, and the voice acting is spot on. Still am amazing game.

[@nachosc6079]

And despite that rdr2 is still better

[@coffee7180]

@@nachosc6079Avatar has better graphics, even crisis 3 has better graphics. Stop being Fan girls for a company that doesn't give a fuck about you.

[@jamiewatson5015]

ik i've replayed it over 10 times, idk what number im on now, and im STILL finding new interactions or things i've missed. best game ever

[@Esquire217]

And yet I prefer rdr2 rather than this avatar game

[@ArthJagtap]

Rdr2 is not a game but a whole life😭

[@subfreakuent]

When you come to realize that RDR2 was a pure passion project way ahead of its time. This has become extremely rare.

[@Cyclopeantreegiant]

Idk if overworking employees is a passion project but ok

[@leopoldbuttersstotch73]

@@CyclopeantreegiantThats the lamest strawman argument ive ever heard.🫵🏻🤡

[@Cyclopeantreegiant]

@@leopoldbuttersstotch73 Can’t undo bad labor practices…

[@grass3523]

​@@leopoldbuttersstotch73Do youre saying you would not lose passion even despite because ng overworked? You dont have meatride rockstar. They have flaws

[@maddiesmith3439]

I actually think it makes sense that the avatar horse drowns. It’s nostrils are on its chest, it literally couldn’t breath

[@richardl1708]

Then it's a design problem, natural selection wouldn't let them evolve like that if they could never swim lol

[@senseiitanaks]

​@@richardl1708bro thinks he's Charles darwin

[@transporter76motovlog28]

@@senseiitanaksnah, its common sense if you know natural selection

[@senseiitanaks]

@@transporter76motovlog28 If an organism was never in an environment where it needed to swim, then why would it die out from not adapting to be able to swim. use ur own common sense buster!

[@abhay86647]

​@@senseiitanaks No he's right

[@mr.normalguy69]

RDR2 = Horse Balls Avatar = No Horse Balls RDR2 WINS!!! 🏆

[@Ahmed3FiFi]

🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣

[@samderanzer8568]

Well, technically those things aren't horses uk?😂

[@MendezCuevas-xe8zy]

it make sense because in the movie their reproductive parts are in the hair lmao

[@MericaAnderson]

At least bill wiliamson will be happy to geld😂

[@brianfogle2743]

Horse balls that shrink in cold weather.

[@whoami9227]

The reason Rockstar games are always the best, even though RDR2 is compared with the newest games this year, still wins because Rockstar always embeds the latest technology in every game it makes.

[@CJ-bp7ec]

Rockstar don't embed the latest technologies in their games they're litterally ahead of their time every new game they make is always a revolution

[@tasteewheat393]

And every other game doesn't embed in the latest technology ?

[@istealpopularnamesforlikes3340]

@@tasteewheat393They don’t. They only ever do Ray Tracing. There are many other technologies that you and the other normie gamers have never heard of.

[@jadenpollen34]

@@tasteewheat393rdr2 that came in 2018 has these insane details. Showing that it was possible then. That means that games now should almost be real life. Games Devs are just lazy and that's why sequels always look like DLCS to the first

[@murazor007]

@@a2raya87 Bullshit. Avatar may have better graphical fidelity, but it looks plain and boring. RDR2 has a proper art style thus it looks more appealing and looks artistic. so, RDR2 wins that too.

[@lamenamethefirst]

Yeah it's not even a contest. The ONLY thing Avatar has over RDR2 is textures, which if it didn't after 5 years it would be embarrassing. Even ray tracing can't compete with Red Dead's lighting system and volumetric fog and clouds, which anyone who's seen how a misty morning looks like in the game can attest to. And this is the difference between technology and attention to detail. Not to mention that every area of the map feels so different and unique, when you go through meadows vs forests and then the towns and cities. This is like comparing LOTR to Rings of Power.

[@Letuin]

Avatar is miles above red dead depression 2 lol

[@SlapOwPotato]

@@Letuinnah

[@gonkdroid6301]

@@SirVonLuinetwynnah argument literally invalid lol

[@TheFikfreak]

​@@LetuinThat cheap crap looking like from 2015 lol? Sure buddy

[@Letuin]

@@SlapOwPotato yes

[@Janahin]

If the same company of RDR made a completely new game about middle ages, like 14th - 15th century, I'm pretty sure it would be over for bannerlord, because that company is just a next level with their games.

[@aliyouthr3338]

bro the company of rdr is rockstar they made gta 1 2 sa vc 4 and 5 and they’re making 6 im definitely sure they would kill it.

[@Quillo4387]

For the archery section at 6:10 if you level up your skill points in afop you are able to collect your arrows again :)

[@LuckiestDanPer]

Why tf would you need to level up skills to make physics work?

[@SonnyEnderby]

@@LuckiestDanPer in all fairness, the Na'vi are alot stronger than your average joe, I love red dead but seeing the arrows break didnt surprise me. The skill is probably learning how to build arrows to withstand your strength or how to control yourself more to allow an arrow to be reused.

[@LuckiestDanPer]

@@SonnyEnderby That's literally so stupid.

[@hornet0317]

@@LuckiestDanPeralso those are pandora trees. They are most likely almost 5x thicker and stronger than the trees on earth.

[@JoyceKD]

pandora is not earth. it’s obvious which game you prefer. both are good games. Arthur, although loved, couldn’t keep up with a Navi on his best day

[@InkGraffiti]

to be fair, the avatar horse would almost certainly not be able to swim, with the breathing mechanism so low on the body the second its shoulder deep in water it has to hold its breath, unless it had evolved a semi-aquatic ability to hold its breath for an extremely long time ( unlikely considering where we see them at ) it would suffocate very fast!

[@Mathinblog]

They updated it with the dlc now they don't drown

[@im_misfar940]

I can hear all the lore reasons to ever exist but the game will still suck byddy

[@itskitt3237]

I think there’s a pretty big gap between realism and gameplay with that one. While it makes sense that they’d drown really quickly and be unable to swim, it doesn’t exactly lend anything but annoyance to player experience. If it was a show or a movie, it makes sense. But since it’s a game, the balance between realism and player experience needs to be prioritized and that’s one of those details where experience needs to be the focus.

[@richardl1708]

The problem is that natural selection wouldn't let them evolve like that if they couldn't swim lol

[@hellgatto]

@@im_misfar940 imagine saying a game sucks only by the value of comparing it to another game.

[@otakunankeng9698]

RDR2 isn't a game, we are just reviving Arthur's true life like with Animus, why don't people understand 😩 Edit: I mean Rdr2 is what Animus would be in the real life :))

[@SleepyjoeOG]

Wrong franchise dawg

[@lucian1144]

Not even a comparison

[@SirDankleberry]

Lol what? No.

[@xelrohtuL0]

Would've been a better game if they would've done it like AC. I ain't paying for this if it has red dead mechanics

[@taurusshaman4881]

We are doing it in the real....there is no spoon! You are already living an ancestors life!

[@salahtbessi9971]

1:24 Can't believe this is a 2023 horse jump animation...

[@Gunky-Bins]

Looked like Eldens Rings horse jump 🤣

[@crazyhairsinger]

Yeah fr like, with all the information, studies, and things like that people still struggle to animate a horse properly. Only time it was done right was in RDR2.

[@boglurker2043]

Ubisoft animations have always been janky shit. AC unity is the exception because they actually bothered to use mocap in that one.

[@TommyPrime4]

Please keep in mind that this game is not set on earth. It is set in another planet called Pandora or something, so physics may vary. Now yall don't dare to call me a ubisoft fanboy, because I am a rockstar fanboy.

[@nsen93]

its ubisoft... they copy paste assets from one game to another... the avatar game is like a mod of far cry... wont be shocked if they just took a bike and replaced it with a horse

[@himbaek8533]

The arrows in Frontiers of Pandora are disappearing because they literally are breaking apart on impact. You have to upgrade your crafting skills to use better materials for arrows that don't break and can be picked up after

[@dankayn]

still doesn't make sense

[@regulardudeguy]

​@@dankaynidk the properties of Pandora's wood that the arrows are made of, but Na'Vi are twice as tall as humans, their strength is higher than ours, and the bows they use are larger too. The force of such bow could as well cause an arrow to break upon impact.

[@CrissKarma23]

Omg thank you for explaining this. Avatar’s looting and crafting system is so thought out. This video doesnt acknowledge that.

[@captainflowers748]

@@CrissKarma23it does disregard context, setting and it’s more of a far cry game. I find it odd to compare it to RD2

[@hornet0317]

Well a lot of it isn’t gonna be the same, especially with horse taming. In avatar, the Na’vi are special natives that bond with life so taming a dire horse can be easier and they don’t see Na’vi as a threat(they’re also not actual horses- rather a whole different breed that resembles horses). While humans don’t do that and are naturally seen as danger to wild horses

[@boardasf699]

Rdr2 is almost 6 years old and is more beautiful and more realistic than every modern game

[@HarleyQuinn-ef4lk]

​@@SirVonLuinewynexample?

[@redtro8678]

@@HarleyQuinn-ef4lk watch a max settings video of avatar (or play it yourself on a decent system) and youll see lmao

[@tullo5564]

​@@redtro8678 Lmao , try the same for rdr2 . I guess your momma doesn't let you play rdr2 so that's why you act like that

[@redtro8678]

@@tullo5564 good one, nah i act like that because i like good graphics, and avatars graphics are simply more impressive

[@xanderlaskey2753]

@@redtro8678The coping is beyond crazy you are just one of those guys that waste 60$ on a game and instead of just accepting it was a waste you have to try and justify it

[@cjgsfhomie]

Bro at 3:00 you can saw that snake swim in the water like this tiny detail already make the game feel alive!!

[@atharvaarmy9921]

Fr

[@USCanDoBetter]

It is cool. Except when you’re me. Need a perfect pelt from one. And before you can get your bow a hawk grabs it!

[@posidon123]

yessss

[@kittysennpaii97]

2:58

[@white_vargr1999]

There are water snakes in the game and most animals (if not all) can flee by swimming. Its one of the most realistic games nature wise its super dope

[@cliffbell3155]

This is why I think rdr2 is the best free roam game in THE history of gaming. I have spent HOURS just walking and slow trotting on horseback ,hunting all sorts of animals while listening to awsome soothing country music on Spotify while playing the game. There was a great moment when on horse back ,just slowly walking up a hill with a nice chilled cinematic orchestra playing on my music list ,when I reached the top, the scenery opened out to the most amazing sunset and view. Just as the music burst into an epic ending. That bought a lump to my throat and if a game can have that effect on someone then they're definitely doing something right!. And I'm 50yrs old. Come on rockstar. Do a 3rd one. That'll be the biggest selling game of all time. Its just makes sense.

[@xelrohtuL0]

You're joking right??? Assassins creed is far superior to whatever this is. The new AC is probably the worst thing ever but the few before are untouchable.

[@parkchaeyoung634]

​@@xelrohtuL0Prince of Persia>>>>>>>>>>AC. Anyday

[@ValidT]

@@xelrohtuL0 “whatever this is”? Is that a joke?

[@Esquire217]

@@xelrohtuL0ayy, AC games has always been a part of me, but rdr is just something else man

[@issnake1109]

@@xelrohtuL0 as is rdr2. Pretty untouchable. Just because everyone loves Assassins Creed, does not mean that there aren’t games better than it. You’re not a very open-minded person, are you?

[@e4804]

The dire horse drowned because the holes in its chest lead straight to its lungs its how they breathe and there aint much of a way to keep that above water

[@TheAntiDisneyGod]

Geez evolution really screwed them over

[@transporter76motovlog28]

@@TheAntiDisneyGodits like the pug lmao

[@Silenus-ed3pr]

2:55 the reason it drowned was because where they breath is from their neck so the water got in there nose

[@AgentN-s5u]

I was playing ac origins a year after rdr2 and it felt so weird cause your mount would just spawn in ac origins, while in rdr2, you would actually worry about where it is. That’s what makes rdr2 special.

[@Telpiun]

Yeah ngl comparing Avatar to RDR2 is a bit like comparing a Martin Scorsese movie to a Tommy Wiseau movie lmao

[@jackdaniels8938]

Comparing Ubisoft to RockStar is just insanity..

[@ElViccoYT]

Also 2023 vs 2018

[@redeyejedi17]

Yeah. Judging from this video, rdr2 wins by a big margin.

[@RedDeadRevenge-c8h]

​@@ElViccoYTbut not in the case of RDR, they will compare with RDR for a long time...but not in the case of RDR, they will compare with RDR for a long time...

[@samuelr.6046]

I did not hit her I did not 😂

[@RickLag8514]

Ubisoft really downgraded their fire physics, they had some of the best fire phyiscs in game from Far cry 2 through far cry primal and including AC games they made during that time span.

[@jackthelad6386]

and i could have sworn their water physics and graphics used to be on point. when black flag came out that water was beautifull

[@RickLag8514]

@@jackthelad6386 The water in black flag still holds up well, anything after AC Odyssey started being slowly downgraded

[@coffee7180]

@@RickLag8514 Far cry 6, ACV, and the crew 2 have great looking water effects.

[@RickLag8514]

@@coffee7180 All of them still have downgraded affects compared to previous games, they do have decent graphics which is why the water may look good but it has less detailed interactions with the player

[@coffee7180]

@@RickLag8514 far cry 6 less Details you are caping.

[@seidi5084]

Though I agree that taming horses in RDR2 is more realistic and the behaviour and movement is also more realistic, you've got to realise that avatar is a different world. The na'vi are much more intune with the wildlife, making it easier to tame and bond with the animals. So I don't think you can compare them in that way. Another thing to add is about the arrows breaking and disappearing. In avatar there are skill sets that you can acquire throughout the game. One is that when arrows are shot they do not break and you can collect them again by going up to them. So that comparison in the vid isn't actually true

[@AlphaBravoCheeseCake]

Super gay

[@zanderdev57]

An arrow is an arrow. Having to unlock a skill to get basic functionality is not realistic and if it is, then naavi arrows are just inherently dogshit. And thus worse. As for the taming, i get that the naavi are in tune but this is a budget decision by the creators, because they want to market the game with taming mechanics to sell more but dont want to add expensive code

[@blankbr6193]

​@@AlphaBravoCheeseCakeYeah, you are.

[@yonakakurai1737]

@@blankbr6193 Don't count me out!

[@idkmyname-w8w]

What the hell is in tune with the wildlife supposed to mean.

[@imhomephobicdontshowmehous2478]

1:23 That Avatar horse jump looks like a jump that'd be used in Star Stable Online 😂😂😂

[@Rdr2isfun]

Lmao played that once with my ex half of the map was locked lol

[@10yearslater_]

Another fun detail with the arrows in RDR2. They don't pierce stones so they bounce off it.

[@emeret2049]

I been waiting so long for this video. Thanks for making one!

[@locomojoboy2]

Looks weird as hell that the Navi is riding the horse with his arms out at his side like that

[@anklescooter]

Cuz it ain’t a horse

[@white_vargr1999]

Thats how the warriors rode them in the first movie and how archers on horseback do it irl, you don’t really need your hands on the mount for balance ^^

[@bran_rx]

Just makes it more goofy. lmao.

[@michaelrebro9687]

Have you not seen the movies

[@fiestofelix4455]

I'm torn to say if this comparison is fair or not... For one side: RDR2 had an estimated $370 million to $540 million dollars to an estimated $120 to $200 million for Avatar: Frontiers of Pandora. However RDR2 was launched in 2018 while Avatar launched in 2023 Also RDR2 was developed by Rockstar while the "Live service era" Ubisoft developed Avatar... I think if we got Ubisoft from AC4/Origins era, maybe the game could have a much better quality (water effects in Origins are just a piece of art)

[@takashishirogane890]

Horses in RDR2 have balls. RDR2 have the winning point.

[@64dolph72]

Dutch : we need more unobtanium!

[@izabelawilson]

Have a goddamn faith and a goddamn plan

[@aiiiia9971]

TJIS SEMT ME😂

[@dummekommentarefullhdvonka2359]

0:20 Wow that's sad. Even in FarCry 3 the fire physics were better.

[@wildrouseacer]

Note that you re in 2020s where the gaming is shiet and the details are missing and everything is crap..plus games wre blurry crap other than good quality games the evolution ended in 2020...after that everything went shiet😢

[@mikehawk1441]

Far Cry 2 had better fire than FC3. And it's not really physics. It's actually a really simple implementation. No game uses actual advanced fire simulation. The reason why they cut it down in FC3 was because of performance and the fact that when fire got out of hand it would burn half the map in FC2, which was fun at first but didn't make for good gameplay.

[@abhirupkundu2778]

​@@wildrouseacerNot gonna lie, but you're just spitting fax. The last good games were the last of us part I and II, and god of war ragnarok. after that games just stopped being entertaining.

[@sussyrat420]

Santa: What do you want for Christmas? Me: you Santa: 4:10

[@bananbernt6079]

6:27 there is an ancestor skill allowing you to pick up arrows you didn’t hit targets, it’s just not in the base kit

[@MichaelJohnson-fu2ji]

I just wanna say the part where the Avatar arrows explode and disappear, there's actually a perk you unlock later that makes them stay and be reclaimable

[@hjvdd]

Yea i wanted to say the same 😅

[@Ned-nw6ge]

For a game that takes place in three different wilderness types, I was hoping that the looting and hunting/ skinning animations would be more realistic, or animated at all.

[@chickencombo7563]

I remember I was trying to collect herbs in Avatar and this alien horse approached me so I tamed it and rode it (I named it friend). Then when I needed to go somewhere far, I had to switch to my flying mount and tried to go to the next quest point. I looked back and see the horse still running after me. I felt sad so I went back down and tried looking for a way to bring it to the quest point with me by going around the mountains. As I was riding, I saw two herbivores getting attacked by a few of those alien leopards so I tried helping them. When the leopards scattered, they turned their attention towards me and attacked me and my horse. They tried attacking again but I rolled away. When the herbivores decided to leave us alone, I went to look for my horse but the next thing I saw when I looked to my right was it's corpse lying next to some flowers. So I got mad and looked for those two herbivores and hunted them down with my shotgun. When I found them, I emptied my mags on them out of anger. I went back to my friend horse's corpse and stayed there for a good 20 minutes saying my goodbyes. I made a custom mark on the map to know where my friend horse died so I can always come back to it.

[@xombi213]

The thing that stands out on avatar is the ability to seamlessly scale cliffs in first person without having a locked in animation. First game to ever do this.

[@SirToaster9330]

To be fair with some of these comparisons, the setting is important, RDR2 is set in real life and is meant to feel like a grand American Novel with visuals taking inspiration from various popular artists meanwhile Frontiers of Pandora takes place in... Pandora which is an Alien planet populated by beings different from ours with an environment completely different from the real world

[@GreckoGeko]

6:20 small correction the arrows do disappear at first but you can unlock a skill that allows them to remain and be recollected. Still annoying but yk

[@RathOfRey]

The horses are easy to tame in Avatar due to the bond? that was deadass explained that they were the easiest animals to create a bond with, and that’s why multiple different Na’vi can ride them

[@winxwest2964]

And? All the video said was that it is super easy to tame a horse. And that is objectively true. Why rush to its defense unless you internally think it needs defending.

[@averycheesypotato]

“They are easy to bond with” is an excuse once you actually bond with them. Walking up to a wild animal when the wildlife does in fact still exist in a predator/prey relationship, should not be easy. Bonding with the wild animal and then being able to just walk it into water where it immediately dies, without any resistance, suggests the Na’avi are in fact parasitic in nature. The “bonding” must surely amount to dominion over the animal’s will & survival instinct. Thus a horse should be instinctively compelled to stomp out any Na’avi that it sees coming, as a matter of self-preservation

[@RathOfRey]

@@averycheesypotato did you not watch the movie? because they literally explain why they are easy to tame. The Na’vi connect their brain stems to them so their minds end up being one and the same so you learn to give them mental commands. Yes they shouldn’t die when they go into water I agree with that but in a game where your horse absolutely can die, and with a map that massive your horse shouldn’t have stamina that just takes the piss. And having to spam X constantly is so annoying

[@averycheesypotato]

@@RathOfRey The connection has to be physically made. They link ponytails. Before that they’re just two different species, one being a hunter and the other a prey animal. You’d think the Na’avi would at least have to catch or lure the horse so they could get close enough to make that connection, but instead the player just holds their hands up and walks straight towards the horse. What is the explanation behind this? Why does this approach not work with other species on Pandora, if it is so effective?

[@RathOfRey]

@@averycheesypotato it only works on the dire horses because they’re non-hostile creatures. The banshees are very hostile naturally so therefore will put up a fight when you try to tame them

[@ForestFolf]

There is a skill in FoP where you can make it so your arrows don't break and can be retrieved from whatever it hit. It's pretty high up in the skill tree so it takes a while to get though.

[@redtro8678]

yeah, but lets not try to make these comparisons actually nuanced, then it becomes harder to milk them for clicks :)

[@OrbObserver]

​@@redtro8678If a skill that basic and underwhelming is deep into the game it's still bad, nuanced or not.

[@waffler-yz3gw]

@@redtro8678lol are you mad that modern games still get effectively trampled by rdr2

[@organmann4821]

@@redtro8678”bow is a starter weapon so arrows are easy enough to obtain as well as easy enough to maintain since you can collect them if you miss your shot!” Vs “must grind a skill tree to have the skill of not breaking every arrow you shoot” = clear winner

[@redtro8678]

@@OrbObserver it wasn’t really deep into the skill tree, but that‘s besides the point anyway, the video is supposed to be a „physics and details“ comparison, not a „progression and gameplay“ comparison

[@nhRenukunta]

Rockstar should also make a game for Pandora.

[@wingedhussar1453]

Suprised James Cameroon went with ubisoft instead of Rockstar. But Rockstar doesn't really make ip anymore that are not theires

[@nhRenukunta]

@@wingedhussar1453 what is ip

[@ogAlacath]

​@@nhRenukuntait stands for "Intellectual Property" but when people say that It means games/titles the company has belonging to them.

[@nhRenukunta]

@@ogAlacath thanks.

[@ogAlacath]

@@nhRenukunta yeah np ik you weren't talking to me at first but glad I could help. :)

[@coolguy9616]

Have to admit the leaves breaking from arrow shots in Avatar is really impressive

[@linadsenoj]

When RDR2 first came out, I remember the complaints were how overworked the developers were and how long the wait was....It has clearly paid off especially after years of other newer games coming out. Hats off to Rockstar!

[@dedstring]

Havent played frontiers yet but that trot animation for the "horse" is 10x better than the janky and warped animation for the horses in assassins creed. So im glad to see it look more natural here

[@roseaceae]

It’s a direhorse in English, Pa‘li in Na‘vi

[@dedstring]

@@roseaceae Ahh nice to know, thankyou

[@Jonh548]

Excellent! I was already waiting for this comparison 🤙🏻

[@turzyn40]

I don't know what stones you were looking at. But that's definitely not how it looks in RDR2. I'm playing and looking at them right now. Maybe change your settings.

[@SirKolass]

He looked at some tiny stones on the floor that can't be seen from upclose, nonsense comparison.

[@papasquats6673]

At 6:10 you show the arrows breaking in Avatar. It's a bit misleading because you unlock a perk later where your arrows stick in terrain and can be collected

[@peppybreyer88]

I think this video points out some interesting things. It brings to light what Ubisoft could have done differently with frontiers. I definitely think environmental factors like grass catching on fire and burning, and water having a more realistic effect to explosives would have been great improvements. A lot of the other things, though, I think it’s important to note that a game about the wild West made by rockstar and a game about another world of fantasy made by Ubisoft are definitely not going to line up when compared. One is referenced off of real life and historical events, the other only referencing movies and imagination. I think things like the horse versus a dire horse could be better represented with a horse versus an Ikran. In red dead, and in real life, your horse is not only your companion, but your mount for every day travel. The horses come in different breeds and colors, can be decorated and customized, and can be named and carry great importance to the rider. Though the dire horse is asimple mount, the Ikran is a mount with connection and companionship that would equate to the red dead horse. In contrast to the dire horse, the Ikran comes in multiple colors, can have various decorations and saddles, has a name and much more detailed, animations and idle animations. I think another point to note is you can’t make arrows in red dead 2 (at least not to my knowledge) you must buy them, and they will break overtime. I believe that this is why the pick up arrows feature exists. On the contrary in frontiers, you make arrows from sticks found around your environment. You do not have to buy them, you simply have to gather, and the plant to get them is common almost everywhere. In your scale tree, you can also unlock a feature to pick up your arrows from hunting. Neither is good or bad, just different depending on what game you’re playing. I also know for the hunting and gathering of animals, red dead is much more of a realistic depiction, but frontiers centers around Navi culture. This just being an appreciation for the creature and taking only what you need to let them return to Mother Nature. Red dead follows a much different mentality of “make use of everything” which is why there are more options for using a dead animal. Just my thoughts. I think both games are great in their respective categories. I would love to see rockstar make a fantasy game but who knows.

[@adrianalbacete11]

9:05 Are you seriously telling me that you are making a hunting video for RED DEAD REDEMPTION 2 and you haven't made the animals suffer when they are shot and have to be sacrificed?

[@Toothless_Edits777]

in my opinion, red read redemption 2 is the most realistic game i have ever played in my life. They got the horses right and they have animations for almost EVERYTHING

[@dutchthenightmonkey3457]

I’m glad even though this clearly favors rdr2 it still shows what the other does better, it feels obvious and I wouldn’t comment if I didn’t see others not show both sides in a fair light

[@Silenus-ed3pr]

6:20 there’s a skill in the game that allows you to pick up an arrow when you shoot it and then you will see the arrow in the tree

[@epicgems9567]

The fire in RDR2 actually reacts to wind direction to, I've burned down a godamn O'Driscolls camp and it was burning from one end to the other and it shifted direction when the wind changed, its ridiculous.

[@Trunkerunk]

The whole "Thank you for these gifts" thing at 8:00 is supposed to be a respect for nature thing but that sort of thing always comes across as dickish to me. Like if somebody shanked me in an alleyway and stole my wallet, then bent down and went "Thank you for the gift of your money" that'd make me want to haunt his ass even harder.

[@rdr2.jockeyy]

real

[@apoorvmishra4922]

Rockstar is soo thorough with their stuff. No wonder their older games still give newer AAA games a run for their money.

[@dedek249]

Rdr2 still the best 🎉🎉🎉

[@xflasz]

6:50 fun fact about rdr2 arrows, If you use the improved arrows they will actually get deeper into whatever youre shooting then normal arrows

[@Fenixus10]

Excellent! I was already waiting for this comparison SUBIK

[@Kee_74]

Bro trained with Wonder Woman with that lasso 😂

[@michalsavatar7]

Frontiers of Pandora is like RDR2......only on steroids. Frontiers is easily one of, if not the most amazing and immersive open worlds in a game to date. I'd only put Cyberpunk 2077 ahead of it. They are equally amazing considering open world city vs open world. These are my two favourites that stand out the most. Digital Foundary put these two.......along with Alan Wake 2 as the best 3 games for graphics of that year.

[@michalsavatar7]

@Mr-Zeilokix I really can't take you seriously if you think RDR2 is "way ahead of" Cyberpunk 2077. That's just ridiculous in my opinion. And talking about Frontiers, I hope you hold yourself to such ridiculously high standards.

[@wortwischer7945]

Most Games are ...yeah, games. And they can be aweseome. RDR2 is a simulation which happens to be an awesome game.

[@SHAFKAT_KHAN]

The living environment and side events, and other thing's in RDR2 makes it a Masterpiece

[@Nikki-is-cool]

3:00 now here for the avatar it is realistic Beacuse the horse, (if you look at its chest) has holes what lead to the insides of the horse, and water coming it just makes it die

[@V_i_g_n_e_s_h__S]

Rdr2 isn't a game it's a real life simulation which is made to stored into 120 gb pack is just insane🤯

[@Ekimara]

from 0:10 i knew it is not better then rdr2 already lmao

[@henryF6]

Let us never stop comparing new titles to RDR2. That way developers will know what the standard is.

[@abdolpix4581]

Now before watching this video you should realize that the atmosphere and gravity of Pandora is different. So it shouldn't surprise you if effects in Avatar looks a bit "unnatural".

[@Dibbles115]

Was surprised you didn't showcase the horse balls shrinking

[@JH_123_]

0:55 🤓 It’s ok I won’t hurt you💀

[@MoofUrtos]

Lmfaoo

[@LucasDorado19]

1:05 Look at that animation to get on the horse lol

[@crispycream6385]

For avatar you need the skill for arrows to stick so you can pick them back up

[@averycheesypotato]

Losing or damaging arrows is fair. Disappearing arrows is illogical.

[@redtro8678]

@@averycheesypotato Except they dont: If you actually go into photo mode you can literally see the arrow break apart when it hits something and you dont have the skill unlocked. It's just that these videos are only to milk clicks out of the fact that its a common notion that rdr is a detailed game, so you have to spent no time to treat the other game fairly, because the point is to shit on other game lmao

[@averycheesypotato]

@@redtro8678 How would a skill prevent arrows from breaking? Shoot more softly?

[@caniwasteallyourtimeherein9728]

​@@averycheesypotatonow you're nitpicking mate, it's there for balancing and gameplay purposes. Other games also have this for example Days Gone. I do agree tho it should be broken or snap in half like the last of us not disappearin'.

[@redtro8678]

@@caniwasteallyourtimeherein9728 yeah and as i said it doesnt disappear, you can see it break, the effect just happens pretty quickly. edit: Actually it turns out even the nitpick is incorrect: The skill upgrade is called "sturdy arrows" and its not about how you shoot, its about you making stronger arrows that dont break.

[@NastiaSaurio]

In avatar you can pick arrows later in game with an hability

[@MattAttack11]

Another great thing about RDR2 is that its also made correctly. Meaning that you can have the settings pretty much on ultra and your computer won't explode. Unlike most games nowadays that look far worse but are coded so poorly that it takes every bit of GPU, CPU, RAM and whatever else you have, just to run it on medium settings. And you still only get 50fps if you're lucky lol.

[@sicc2977]

Pretty odd that the na'avi doesn't grab the "reigns" of the direhorse at all lolll

[@crispycream6385]

The what💀

[@sicc2977]

@@crispycream6385 I misspelled it but the "Na'vi" are the native people of Pandora in the Avatar universe

[@AmHasnainO]

Best scene Starts from 2:18

[@ajbrazov]

Nothing is even far comparable to RDR2

[@m00rtin4]

AC Odessey is very good.

[@USCanDoBetter]

@@m00rtin4Not touching RDR2. And I doubt it beats Black Flag, or Origins. Glad you enjoy it but I bought it for $5 and it was too similar to get excited about. I even enjoyed AC3 more but I’m biased and realize it’s not nearly as loved.

[@m00rtin4]

@@USCanDoBetter it is like origins but much lighter in tone to the storytelling. It's not as simple as other ac games in those aspects. The gameplay is like a Allstar ac deluxe game. U want stealth? Yes they have it. U want a GOOD rpg? Yes they def have it. You want naval battles on the level of black flag? Yes they have it! Under the surface lies a beautiful game that is so underrated.

[@USCanDoBetter]

@@m00rtin4 Ok. Maybe I’ll give it some more attention. Gonna be awhile since I’m splitting my time between Nier Automata, and Total Warhammer 2. Older yes but who needs new?

[@motakuevooy9042]

​@@m00rtin4not good enough

[@duewhat9815]

RDR2's biggest achievement was immersion, truly feeling like an outlaw in the late 1800s America. I'm not saying that Avatar doesn't achieve it but physics and details although were incredible in RDR2 it wasn't what made it special.

[@SilverBlast15]

Rdr 2 most underrated game of the century, this game is definitely the best game rockstar has brought out and no gta v is not even close in detail to what this game is offering. Its just mind blowing you can spend 300 hours and still find new things.

[@Senior192]

RDR 2 KİNG ❤

[@FardeenKhan-we1ku]

nope

[@zuher3180]

Rdr2 is always the best game weather you like it or not🥶

[@Letuin]

No it isn't

[@Dylanfrias24]

​@@Letuinit objectively s tier in every department except gameplay.

[@zuher3180]

@@Dylanfrias24 sounds like skill issue.

[@zuher3180]

@@Letuin ☝️🤓

[@Dylanfrias24]

@@zuher3180 combats mid , you have to agree

[@jeansilva8429]

RDR2 é uma obra prima, pelo visto dificilmente vai ser superado

[@chirikumodor9096]

even tho RDR2 is a better game you can't really compare the 2 horse tame methodes because, as we see in the film you just have to connect your hair with the horse and you dont have to really "tame" it

[@idkbro1206]

The dedication is on another level and it only makes me sad that there are still a lot of things that went unnoticed 😢

[@滝沢孝宣]

レッドデッドリデンプション2大好き

[@Draughammer]

RDR2 takes the win easy in every aspect and its like 5 years old or something...

[@chokoon21]

Rockstar 2018 vs Ubisoft 2023

[@etchiejoel5885]

💀

[@straightjacket308]

The fact that RDR2 isn't Avatar is already a win.

[@Marky1740]

You forgot to mention the detail of the horses in RDR2 with their muscles flexing and shifting under the skin.

[@Dindlock]

Plsss Starfield vs No Man's Sky

[@dobil6815]

When we see the textures from close-up we notice that the game is getting old. But still my favourite.

[@isaiahtowers1865]

Not even really, this guys playing his rdr2 at low settings or just doesn’t have an up to date system because when you play rdr2 and use the in game camera to view your characters face you can see wrinkles, stubble, pores, blemishes, your characters iris is even highly detailed as well as the pupils dilating when the light changes. When you got a good system red dead still looks all around better than these new games.

[@vhureyeweqw8808]

@@isaiahtowers1865 true, i play rdr2 in 6k also modded with better textures and it's not even close to how Avatar looks

[@FardeenKhan-we1ku]

@@isaiahtowers1865 better shut up. He is making a video he knows how to compare

[@isaiahtowers1865]

@@FardeenKhan-we1ku relax dude he’s not gonna see you d riding and then give you a prize, the video was good he’s just probably playing on PC which is why it looks weird

[@waffler-yz3gw]

⁠@@FardeenKhan-we1kulmao what are you yapping about "better shut up 😼" lunch money stealing mf

[@pnshankar5292]

Bro please make video foods in different open world games

[@tb9360]

Nice job! Now have them both shout "Leeeennnyyyy!" to compare

[@gutar5675]

Rockstar makes one game a console generation now. There was never a chance that a Ubisoft title could compete