Ghost of Tsushima vs Rise of the Ronin - Physics and Details Comparison

[@dobil6815]

No game has yet beaten the Horse detailing and riding experience of RDR2.

[@noobthenoob559]

the horse, can’t forget the horse

[@killrblue]

And they never will, rockstar is on another level

[@dobil6815]

@@hesh9646 naughty ...

[@dobil6815]

@@pavanraj698 I was gonna say the same but this is not their production so it would be irrelevant.

[@sicariodu9546]

@@dobil6815naughty dog horse riding is not better i don’t even know where it come from. We barely be on the horse besides moment that are 5% of the game.

[@nauccx660]

The environment in GOT feels so alive and dynamic, the rustling of fallen leaves, the wind. The sound design and aesthetics are beautifully crafted

[@EliteXtinctGaming]

once you have played red dead redemption 2 every other game feels dead. GOTs environment feels dead compared to red dead 2 where there are hundreds of animals and npcs going to work and getting stuff done.

[@justinnemesis1]

I get that. But got was beautiful in its own way. Nothing like the details and authenticity of RDR2. Thats currently the bar that is set, but there's something that hits different when you do a haiku and ride off in this game

[@nauccx660]

​@@EliteXtinctGaming Yes I have played RDR2 as well, the side events do seem to feel rather natural and dynamic even though ik they're scripted but they're scripted well. However, I feel the sound design, wind physics, the sound of the breeze felt far better in GOT

[@martonsebestyen9515]

@@nauccx660 exactly

[@RD-2709]

​@@EliteXtinctGaming stop comparing everything to rdr2 then, multiple games can be fun at once you know 😂

[@RedX2033]

Ghost of Tsushima sword and bow is by far one of the most smooth and elegant weapons I have ever seen. It felt like the sword and bow were just so smooth and worked so well together. Usually games either have you use one weapon then the others in your arsenal but using the bow on horse back while fighting enemies is so satisfying and to jump off and go straight into sword combat is amazing. The game is really smooth when switching between the two weapons. Ghost of Tsushima is definitely one of the best games I had the privilege of playing.

[@Young_Stocky]

RDR2 has great bow and arrow physics as well

[@sanfrrraa]

​@@Young_Stockyno it doesn't

[@jonathanjoestar9317]

​@@Young_Stocky it doesn't why are you capping the bow in rdr2 sucks and is only there just for the sake of being there the others weapons are better

[@Young_Stocky]

@@jonathanjoestar9317 I didn’t say it was the best weapon. I said that it was pretty good.

[@jonathanjoestar9317]

@@Young_Stocky it wasn't good at all

[@mrnexus3148]

The Ghost of Tsushima game was released on July 17, 2020, and Rise of the Ronin on March 22, 2024. The Ghost of Tsushima was released 4 years earlier and even better in graphics and gameplay than its predecessor.

[@tlb582]

Rise of Ronin looks like it was designed on the same engine as Far Cry 3 or Crysis 3

[@sowpmactavish]

Predecessor means the one that came before. Ghost of Tsushima in this case is the predecessor. It's got the prefix "Pre" in it ffs.

[@TheMaestro116]

@@tlb582 Crysis 3 looks miles better than Ronin though.

[@oxxylix504]

and also Ghost of Tsushima released at the end of the ps4 cycle. Rise of the ronin released in the middle of the ps5 cycle

[@polishpat95]

Predecessor??? Ghost of tsushima doesnt HAVE a predecessor. ???

[@55Kryan]

The badass feeling that Ghost evokes can't be matched. Easily the coolest looking and most satisfying combat system in a game to date, imo.

[@SuperArppis]

I agree!

[@aperson4640]

You can't just throw out a 'Best combat ever' claim without some proof. Pretty sure Sekiro has better combat than Ghost.

[@55Kryan]

@@aperson4640 I said in my opinion, mate...

[@aperson4640]

@@55Kryan I know. I'm just throwing my 2 cents in. I just started Ghost so it's just speculation on my part but upon further consideration, Sifu might be the actual best of all time. Ghost is good so far but I need to finish the game before I can definitively make these claims.

[@xrbitzz]

@@aperson4640I came here to say “bro hasn’t heard of sekiro or sifu yet” 😭

[@SirAlaska]

One thing I love is Jin reaching his hands out to feel the high grass when he walks through it or when you're riding on your horse. And very good graphics with attention to detail, design and aesthetic will beat better graphics everytime. It doesn't apply here necessarily but it definitely shows up in comparisons like Arkham Knight to Gotham Knights

[@marzzattak]

When he pulls out the red Maple leaf to see which way the wind is blowing. Perfection.

[@Zakatak360]

For 4 years old Ghost still looks amazing. Their animation team did a fantastic job. To parry, evade, block, swing and then execute a kill is crazy smooth.

[@Messithegoat146]

Fr, one of the best games of all time

[@mrmunkee]

Four years makes no difference right now in graphics and tech. RDR2 looks way better and it's even older. Visuals are more about the effort the devs are willing to put in now, not what year it is.

[@arthurmorgan7645]

​@@mrmunkeerdr doesn't look feel or do anything better and I used to be the biggest rdr fan just look at my pfp and username rdr is overrated and has dull and boring gameplay

[@interwebs_]

@@mrmunkee RDR2 is up there with some of the most expensive games of all time to produce, published by one of the largest publishers in the world. "Effort" is a terrible word when it generally comes down to the number and quality of devs hired, and how well they are treated (or in the inverse how much crunch they are forced to do). If ghost of tsushima had a budget of $200+ million I'm sure their horses would have been more fleshed out, among a host of other improvements and additions that come with having Rockstar money. But I would hope not having rockstar crunch for their devs

[@kevinh1792]

It will still look amazing after 10 years. It will age like fine wine

[@wiseradical3386]

GoT's ''let's ad just a dash of fantasy'' art direction is simply out of this world.

[@thebinarybiscuit]

And even then, aren't all of the "supernatural" parts attributable to the hallucinogenic tea that the Mongol shamans start dosing people with? That's always how I thought it went. The introspective death trip, or the hellishly intense introspective nightmare,reliving a past event to overcome some personal obstacles. A common trope, but a good one!

[@kingcamelot1395]

​@thebinarybiscuit The joy of it is that both explanations could be true. When something appears supernatural in Ghost of Tsushima, there is usually a logical explanation offered. But not all the time. Sometimes you're ledt wondering if there was something ever so slightly magical happening. The line between supernatural and logical is blurred so thin in Ghost, that both explanations can be right.

[@John-mf6ky]

Definitely! A lot of the mongol armor and weapons do seem pretty fantasy (almost cheesy) tho. I'm also not a mongol history either so idk lol.

[@John-mf6ky]

​@@kingcamelot1395 I really enjoyed that during the heavenly strike quest. The white leaves and thunder were a beautiful touch. hail, thunder, rail, etc are common in spring when cherries blossom (white flowers). I'm also not done with act 1 though either, so I have a ways to go.

[@raydafuq3570]

@@thebinarybiscuit That would only start after you went to Iki Island in Act II. So there are no mongol shamans with hallucionegenic tea in the base game yet you have stuff like the Curse of Uchitsune.

[@bogznachura8622]

As a Ghost of Tsushima Player: 7:40 Gliders? Awesome, a feature I didn't know this game had! *watches Jin plummet to his death*

[@johnsonrob]

I am really hoping that this is an add-on in the paid for update - otherwise, I am disappointed not to have found it, or not interested to have paid even more for it... Either way, GOT is by far the better game...

[@gumbislice1605]

That part had me dying of laughter. I just started playing and thought it was about to spoil a gained mechanic.

[@Kanishk-n2j]

The time when Jin was alive there was no glider

[@Zeemas]

Tsushima was set in 1200s and Ronin was in 1800s. It's crazy how little has changed from between those 600 years. 200 years after 1800 is literally now. It's crazy.

[@aaeve5676]

Meiji Restoration goes hard

[@Faunatic97]

Same in Europe. 500 to 1500 is Middle ages. About 1000 years of next to no technological advancement. Now look at the last 100 years

[@Moonlight77162]

ofc there would be one pink bigot comparing cultures and advancements. japan is much more advanced than total europe combined .

[@platinum10000]

It's not ''literally'' now because we live 224 years later. Literally : In a literal manner; word for word. In a literal or strict sense. You can learn something new everyday pal!

[@biggiecheese655]

@@platinum10000 they faces killing me why nobody gaf

[@szent794]

lmao, the glider got me, ‘’?? There's a glider in Ghost in Tsush--- oh nope there's none, he's dead."

[@bigcrashg]

what Japanese samurai was using gliders bro. lmao be fr.

[@JustJustKen]

@@bigcrashg neither did Ronins.

[@liquid1514]

​@@bigcrashgit's a game bro💀

[@DKSON1337]

Yeah "The pull it outta my ass glider"

[@doughboi2346]

@@liquid1514 yeah but the point of the video is to see which one was more realistic so it just made rise of ronin seem unrealistic

[@shinytv5148]

rise of ronnin looks like its just a remastered game from the 2010

[@Mancombseepgood69]

My thoughts exactly

[@CubamusPrime]

Kei Tecmo uses bargain bin engines.

[@hanitessieh7449]

My thoughts exactly

[@chilly6470]

Yet, it's gameplay is much better. GoT looked great but was an absolute borefest for me.

[@nivea4x252]

Is that like an backhanded complainant

[@pensura8107]

i was bored being a pc gamer and all i do is play competitive games because i cant find AAA game that i think worth the time to play. and then i just played GOT on pc and it awakened my inner gamer for a long time. i get excited before going to bed thinking to play it again the next day.

[@andyuchiha7958]

me too bro, down to play sometime? i’ve been so deep into japanese lore lately because of this game. i need more ghosts to run legends with too

[@Votruh]

Ооооо, я завидую тебе, что ты еще не игал в Witcher 3 😂😂😂 она еще интересней

[@capucin1987]

Go to buy ps5

[@trevorpeck1877]

I never owned a gaming PC but I'd much rather own a gaming PC with a VR headset than a console. I get really tired of not being able to buy certain games because they aren't for my Xbox one. If you have the money for a gaming PC why buy a console? It seems pointless.

[@ArabianFreedom]

AAA single player games are on PC, too. Read Dead 2 The Witcher 3 Cyberpunk 2077 Skiro Elden Ring Resident Evil games

[@vaibhavnirbadh3280]

That "No Glider" really got me 😂😂, I really was just thinking how the hell could I miss a glider in game🤣

[@fade2black001]

When your horse dies in GoT it felt like the horse dying in Never Ending Story

[@whatyousee-f7j]

Real. Also a very good movie. You seem like someone who has also watched the Dark Crystal and Labrinth with David Bowie and Jennifer Connelly, would I be correct?

[@jaydee8469]

@@whatyousee-f7j 2 Classics 😎👌🏼

[@whitezombie10]

Honestly it reminded me of rdr2 because it’s the only other important horse death that I had to experience, and they both hit so hard because the player knows how much the horse has been through and that it is just an innocent creature forced into serving a human and dying because of the person’s actions

[@fade2black001]

@@whatyousee-f7j yes I have Fun fact - Did you know That The Never Ending Story is German?

[@fade2black001]

@@whitezombie10 You should watch The Never Ending Story

[@hare75]

Ronin combat was depth and responsive but ghost is better overall

[@borislavahristova6288]

Yes

[@MakimaShihaiNoAkuma]

You mean, the repetitive combat of Ghost is better overall? LOL. At least I felt there was a challenge in Ronin.

[@gaudiestivy4297]

@@MakimaShihaiNoAkuma Two words for ya; lethal difficulty. Also why the heck is it repetitive? Some of the best combat mechanics I've seen in a long time Edit: thanks for the likes!

[@nooooooooooooooooooooooooo2266]

@@MakimaShihaiNoAkuma u played the game wrong if u think it was repetitive

[@MakimaShihaiNoAkuma]

@@nooooooooooooooooooooooooo2266 Nah, I played the right game and it's repetitive. Same animations, same flow, utterly monotonous. Game has great visuals and a somewhat accurate story, but that's it. I would rather have less over saturated graphics and some decent combat. If you call Ghost of Tsushima's combat varied, then RotR will pretty much show you there's more to that.

[@guenthergraukorn]

I’ve finished both and I liked both a lot. I feel like Ronin puts its focus more on gameplay and story (bc that is really good) while Ghost of Tsushima has got the overall package: breathing graphics, amazing gameplay and a great story! I finished Ghost of Tsushima twice or 3 times (on PS4 and on PS5) and I’ll get it on PC as well when it’s on sale. The variety (gameplay-wise) you can get out of both games is insane. In both games you’ve got different stances/fighting styles which is really cool. I don’t know if there are videos on KZbin which compare the styles in the Rise of the Ronin to actual ones, but I’m really interested. I know there are some for Ghost of Tsushima and they are accurate.

[@xrawszn349]

its now on sale, i just started

[@Ron-u5k]

Yeah I agree ghost has really good in all and robin was focused on a few mainly

[@Aansh_cube100]

got's story is like rdr 1's story

[@Teegste]

I think the sound design in Ghost of Tsushima is flawless as well. Everything about the game is amazing

[@jiovannyhernandez4035]

You can pet foxes, deers, and cats in Ghost of Tsushima and the foxes are so fucking cute. I believe you can pet the Mongolian dogs too with the special charm

[@sammorossi]

Gotta sneak up on them

[@fuxxupz1505]

god damn

[@nameen._.gzilla8871]

Deer deer

[@Reggie5088]

and monkeys of island of tiki

[@Apocryptoz]

Yeah, you can buy a charm for it at baku the voiceless for ghost flowers, however it’s only available in New Game+

[@molviscutting4387]

Actually at 0:30 i can get the background vision diff between these two games, it's not just texture diff, Tsushima has strong optimization capabilities, and the developers know how to express dynamic shaking when riding a horse without really causing visual distress to the player. You know, motion blur. I hate motion blur.

[@NOTTIBOPPINtwitch]

U need to install a driver to play Got without it looking like ass. Red dead 2 didn’t. Red dead 2 still looks better while GOT needs a driver to look ass

[@molviscutting4387]

@@NOTTIBOPPINtwitch well that's another situation, but you're right.

[@yopuhcakthegreat]

Can't wait on the comparison of GoT and Ghost of Yotei

[@zerocseven]

納刀時の血糊の処理とか（払ったくらいじゃ、血糊は綺麗に落ちません） 木に矢が刺さる瞬間の処理（木の破片が飛ぶ）、火矢が当たった後の草むらの処理など よりリアルさを追求しているGhost of Tsushimaが2020年に完成していたことを考えると Sucker Punch Productionsの技術力や企画力の高さに、改めて称賛を贈りたいです。

[@BirgittFischer]

sony did a great job

[@たしぎ-b4r]

ゴーストオブツシマも血を払って飛ばすモーションあるよ。ゴーストオブツシマやった事ある？

[@takeocello]

飽くまでも時代劇ファンタジーだからね

[@bababa488]

火矢が当たった後の草むらの処理は全然リアルじゃありません 青々とした生の草が燃えるわけないでしょう 燃えた矢じりが地面に刺さった時点で火は消えます あと泳いでる時の水の波紋とか、リアルなのはローニンの方です まぁ ゲームでリアルさを追求しすぎると逆に迫力がなくなったりするから 嘘表現もアリですがね

[@お茶a]

@@たしぎ-b4r確かにゴーストオブツシマにも血を払って飛ばすモーションはあるけど刀に血は残ってるんよね

[@papa_rambo]

it's like comparing cooked rice with raw rice

[@KimJongUn_DPRK]

rice

[@max-jm7hy]

So which one should I buy ghost or ronin?

[@jungler06]

@@max-jm7hy ghost of tsushima

[@thabangsibanda3282]

​@@max-jm7hydefinitely ghost

[@GlocKCord]

@@max-jm7hy I havent tried the ronin but I can recommend GoT. One of the best games in the market rn imo.

[@MrNeobuxer]

The only thing I dislike about Ghost of Tsushima is how high it set my standards for graphics... FOUR YEARS AGO

[@kin_lost]

I think they're both good at what they do. Obviously Rise of The Ronin seems a little bit "dry" and I'd recognise it as a game from 2017 ~ 2020, but I think each game fulfils its purpose somehow. Ronin seems more like a kind of game to mess around with like I did with ShinobiDo back in the Ps2 and Ghost of Tsushima for a cinematic, narrative and more immersive experience. I can't say about the mechanics because I haven't played Ronin yet though.

[@NoMoreLies365]

Ahh man I had so much fun with shinobido. I go back to it from time to time for the nostalgia.

[@Joyapp]

Rise has some impressive combat. The amount of stances and clothing options are insane. Both great games. Tsushima def takes the prize though, just because of quality and story imo.

[@tyb781]

Rise of Ronin is a great game bogged down by two fairly critical flaws. One, the graphics clearly. Two, an over reliance on boss fights that afterward everyone is just cool with each other again. It has great combat depth, several different maps to explore, and a cool way to sort of “new game plus” previous chapters within a playthrough. The affinity system with nearly every story character gives it a lot of depth as well. If it weren’t for the graphics I think this game would’ve been huge.

[@timstevens1985]

I dont get all the hate for rise of the ronin. They're both very similar but also different. The graphics in ghost of tsushima is obvious better but I love the fact there character customization in rise of the ronin. So in my opinion they're both good it just depends what your in the mood for

[@Aristarchus696]

From my Japanese point of view, "Ronin" is an action fantasy manga for young men with ninjas and samurai. On the other hand, "Tsushima" looks like a high-quality period drama film. Both are well accepted in the Japanese community, with "Ronin" being enjoyed as a manga game and "Tsushima" as a period movie game. There is not much conflict in the fan communities. (Deepl translation used).

[@amazingmrpig6369]

@@Aristarchus696wow, I don’t know what deepl translate is but it’s pretty good :D

[@turtsmin5835]

But there’s also character customization in Tsushima

[@timstevens1985]

@turtsmin5835 I meant you can create your own character and customize him or her where in ghost your character is locked in as Jin

[@turtsmin5835]

@@timstevens1985 ohhhhhhh I see

[@mckay7965]

While it looks like RotR look better on a fidelity level, I think Tsushima has a much better visual design. The bright, saturated colors, the shininess of the grass, the way sun spills through the trees, it all just feels so magical. Another thing worth noting is that arrows are very limited in GoT, and there's a time limit on how long you can hold the bow with it being drawn, after which your aim gets shaky and you are eventually forced to let go. It adds a little touch of realism that I really appreciate

[@mhdirham2276]

Got better definitely but hate on ronin is unfair

[@Ma.d.havan007]

True 👍🏻

[@mhdirham2276]

Naruto goat🙌

[@haleender955]

The comparison was always going to be a suicide attempt for ROTR

[@abhishekprajapat415]

@mhdirham2276 Allow me to disagree. FYI, I have played both games. RoTR i have completed till half and in GoT I have platinum. For additional background I have Plat in Sekiro and have completed Elden Ring, Lies of P. 1. RoTR has shit lighting. Textures are not that bad but the lighting sucks at almost all places. 2. RoTR the combat is just not exactly satisfying. Yes, it looks all good and glittery while looking at it but when it really comes to the implementation of it then its more or less the same (I have tried almost all weapon types). Enemies have crazy high forward momentum which pretty much kills the aspect of KEEPING YOUR DISTANCE. Yeah, there are some good things here and there but bad is bad enough to dull their shine. 3. RoTR has shit performance. IF I AM GETTING BELOW 60 FPS EVEN IN PERFORMANCE THEN YES U DESERVE HATE. I will however agree to following as well: 1. RoTR has well crafted world where different things, building and their placements makes sense and looks immersive if not for those shit graphics. 2. RoTR has implemented bonds and missions which allow bonds quite neetely. 3. RoTR has good storyline. (At least till the point I have played)

[@SavingPrivateBob]

Come on, bro. At least say GoT, some us our asses are dylexic

[@diomed96]

when you emote to bow in front of a dead animal, Jin says something like "thank you for your sacrifice" or "I'm sorry". Actually same goes for dead villagers

[@amazingmrpig6369]

Me hitting the most devious dance on the loser I just stabbed 14 times just for Jin to say “I’m sorry”: 😡😡😡😡😡

[@_SoCalDude_]

Ghosts of Tsushima is so damn good for a 4 year old game. Such a massive, vibrant and detailed open world to explore as well.

[@eredin105]

"vibrant and detailed open world to explore as well."? Unfortunately, it feels empty and dead after RDR2.

[@Ai-Spectre0]

​@@eredin105 Why do RDR2 players feel the need to mention the game 24/7?

[@eredin105]

@@Ai-Spectre0 Because he's the best. Once you experience the best, others just seem boring.

[@_SoCalDude_]

@@eredin105 Damn, I feel sorry for you then.

[@juleswinnfield1246]

that doesn’t matter if the game is boring

[@Αστερίων13]

1:48 WAIT you can really take your arrows backs like that? I platinumed the game and didn’t know this!

[@KyoushaPumpItUp]

Depends on what charms you use in the game

[@Αστερίων13]

@@KyoushaPumpItUp Now it makes sense, thanks

[@thatboyhan3872]

​@@Αστερίων132 charms of swift returns and 2 charms of fortune give u a hundred percent chance to recover arrows

[@antoshy]

ghost of tsushima is like a bright and luminant game and ronin is more like a dark environment game

[@MrPanGonzo]

ronin is dark, ugly, low effort trash game

[@PeterSkaOi]

​@@MrPanGonzostill better than GOT lol

[@MrPanGonzo]

@@PeterSkaOi if you have no taste then yeah

[@PeterSkaOi]

@@MrPanGonzo says the one with an Anime Profile pic lol

[@MrPanGonzo]

@@PeterSkaOi at least i made that pic myself xd but if you put all anime industry in one bag named "bad" then i don't really have anything else to tell you...

[@rrrrroope]

GOT had some shader geniuses at work, the wind sway of vegetation for instance was done in shaders somehow, so it runs well even on ps4 and looks absolutely gorgeous everywhere

[@rui8688]

Rise of ronin is more anime while Ghost of tsushima is more realistic

[@jamesemmons4672]

It's funny, because when they made Ghost, they were trying to capture the feel of being in an old Kurosawa film. That's why there are so many showdowns and standoffs. I still play it to this day.

[@420highboi4]

​@@jamesemmons4672 I got it maybe two week ago and I'm already done the first part of the island

[@トーキ-g8v]

This is funny because Rise of the Ronin looks more like the actual Japanese countryside

[@cerdic6305]

Not really, Ghost of Tsushima is incredibly unrealistic in nearly every detail. Still a great game though.

[@juleswinnfield1246]

nonsense

[@Mythical.History]

Soon we gon see AC Shadows vs Ghost of Tsushima comparison video on this channel 🔥

[@souleater0815]

True!

[@whatyousee-f7j]

the graphics might be the only redeeming quality of the new AC game tbh

[@itsFETO]

I don't have GoT, but I can already tell AC is going to be a very mediocre hack and slack game with some gimmicks as abilities, it's not even going to compare

[@Mythical.History]

@@itsFETO I too haven't played GOT but I've played all the AC games and considering the latest rpg AC games, you're right. But there's no doubt the exploration would be great in AC Shadows. AC never misses exploration and environment

[@whitezombie10]

Knowing how recent Ubisoft games and especially ACs turned out to be, I don’t think there will be any competition at all

[@renamoda5450]

7:45 😄You died just to show us the comparison. That is dedication!!

[@ezcarti]

both games look great. has their own unique touch to it but i'm more of a cinematic guy, so i'm more lean towards tsushima. ronin looks a bit more towards souls-like in terms of movement and combat, not to mention how it has its similarities with sekiro. i've also seen its combat gameplay where it is very dynamic and lots of movement and probably unrealistic which isn't a bad thing, the game definitely nails the atmosphere for that type of gameplay. the same can be said for tsushima

[@MrPanGonzo]

if you really think that garbage rise of ronin looks great then you have some serious issues with your eyes...

[@dontbothertoreply9755]

@@MrPanGonzo touch grass girl.

[@dontbothertoreply9755]

it is not like games made by from software, it is fast, you have tons of movements and styles, you are fast etc, it looks like a Team Ninja game, fast gameplay, reaction based, overlapping mechanics kinda etc, From Software is a standard for bad design in combat please do not use it as a compliment.

[@MrPanGonzo]

@@dontbothertoreply9755 someone is but hurt bias

[@chocolateman2554]

@@dontbothertoreply9755it really does look like shit lol gameplay is good but the visuals is just ass

[@hirssi2321]

Glad to have both games existing, since both have strengths in what the other doesn't. Because we are not forced to choose only one, then there really is no reason to. If you can enjoy both, it has been a good few years with great Samurai games released.

[@GloriousGrunt]

What is the strength of Ronin? To me they look like the same game

[@Heirizons]

​@@GloriousGrunt Ronin has a wildly more complex and thorough combat system than GOT

[@UnrealAxel27]

@@GloriousGrunt almost completely different games

[@melodiasrojas8428]

@@GloriousGrunt if they look the same to you then you need some help lol

[@Aristarchus696]

From my Japanese point of view, "Ronin" is an action fantasy manga for young men with ninjas and samurai. On the other hand, "Tsushima" looks like a high-quality period drama film. Both are well accepted in the Japanese community, with "Ronin" being enjoyed as a manga game and "Tsushima" as a period movie game. There is not much conflict in the fan communities. (Deepl translation used).

[@BaffledAlways]

I had no idea you could take the arrows back in Ghost of Tsushima, tried a few times but nut never got the option. Maybe it only works on trees? Will have to try

[@W9illa]

There are certain charms in ghost of tsushima which allow you to have a higher chance in redeeming your arrow back.

[@fghjxcvb]

I had no idea you could swim in Ghost of Tsushima. It was never necessary to go take a swim so it never crossed my mind.

[@adeelmangoman]

There was one mission in which Jin was on a ship and Mangols blow that ship, so Jin had to swim across to the shore.

[@Faceplay2]

@@adeelmangomanyeah but that’s a cute scene you never do it in the mission

[@fghjxcvb]

@@adeelmangoman Oh yeah, that's right. I wonder if I just forgot since I didn't need to swim to get any collectible.

[@decd]

there is an island near azamo bay which you have to swim to actually, it's a shrine? or something , you get a katana skin there ​@@fghjxcvb

[@lagsucks9255]

There's also the quest for Uchitsune's longbow which you have to swim over I'm pretty sure

[@andey1685]

rise of ronin looks like a ps3 game

[@Dts-r6y]

That's why I like it

[@Mike-xo8on]

It does look ps3

[@SweetZombiJesus]

Either you forgot what PS3 graphics like, or there's a weird issue with your monitor. I haven't played ROR, but ay least its assets look highly detailed.

[@gyanaranjankhatua1389]

You probably bought the game hahahahaja​@@SweetZombiJesus

[@2genders-tk2ue]

You guys apparently weren't born during the ps3 era....or you parrot what you hear like a good little sheep.

[@DreamerFromTheDepths]

Yesterday I decided to get GoT, especially since it had released on PC, to me this game blew away expectations, the story is simple but sweet, the gameplay is very satisfying, it may be a bit simple and easy but it's honestly refreshing to play a game that isn't busting my balls in every fight. The textures are somewhat low quality but it doesn't bother me, this is one of the best performing games out there, it's very well optimised, I play the game at 2k resolution and I can't tell if it's ever dropped below 144 fps. You also stop taking notice of the low texture quality because the game's lighting is incredible, it feels like I'm watching a video rather than playing a game, it looks surprisingly close to real life.

[@saurabhpathakYT]

I like both games. They're pure fun and made with love ❤

[@UnrealAxel27]

Right. This is literally the case of comparing bad bitches for no reason

[@MrPanGonzo]

rise of ronin made with love? this low budget offensively bad trash? XD do you hear yourself?

[@dragonfire8690]

​@@MrPanGonzo Y honestly nioh 2 was peak but i'm scared for nioh 3 if this is what they're going to deliver

[@MrPanGonzo]

@@GriffinX81 the difference is... other Team Ninja games were good

[@steppenwolf543]

animations of horse in rise of the ronin looks like in a game from ps2

[@BryceCzirr-jz7ju]

The whole game does.

[@Cansislol]

@@BryceCzirr-jz7ju bullshit

[@HiyaCoffee]

Very true. Rise of The Ronin looks and moves like some low budget garbage, but gets hyped like some "AAA quality". So many zombie fans like you have a very low bar in quality games these days. Ghosts of Tsushima is a very rare example of a masterpiece. Stay angry that your game is lazy garbage. ❤

[@Cansislol]

@@HiyaCoffee Are you stupid or something?

[@metalhead522]

@@HiyaCoffeewho the fuck are you crying to? No one outright even defended the game here

[@konokrisda]

4:28 that glider out of nowhere jumpscared me emoji?

[@madraccoon5934]

I think a lot of people forget the feeling Ghost of Tsushima opens up when you play it. Sure, the graphics are still great and it's crispy. But, man the game has the tightest controls and it's fun element is 11/10. It takes up back to a time when games where we played games for fun. Next time you play it, run into a camp, slice up the enemies, and tell me it's not about the most fun action adventure you've had in a while.

[@juleswinnfield1246]

the game isn’t fun at all

[@Aansh_cube100]

@@juleswinnfield1246 cap

[@allendean9807]

Having only played GoT on PS5, I’m amazed that it was a PS4 port. That’s incredible. Reminds me of the first time i saw the Pillar Of Autumn coming from PS1 to Xbox…. Night and day

[@Ciffer-1998]

what? i dont get it what did you try to say here Pillar Of Autumn is Halo right then what does ps1 has to do with it?

[@therealneji]

@@Ciffer-1998that’s what i’m saying like i’m confused Halo is strictly an Xbox exclusive

[@brookspn]

I've just been playing GoT for the first time. Great game. I'm really blown away by the water, in particular. No other game I've played has such good looking water!

[@anton7709]

Ghost of tsushima better

[@darty8272]

Much better.

[@BryceCzirr-jz7ju]

Especially on PC

[@Siranoxz]

Rise of the Ronin has insane gameplay and a combat as the comment above me mentioned. Ghost of Tsushima has better visuals in some aspects. It seems that The Rise Of Ronin doesn´t look too shabby either, and i´m sure a PC version will do the game more justice.

[@nadarajanpettai9634]

@x_xvihtahousux_x1969 ghost of tsushima just realeased on pc lol

[@eyvin_helvetia]

@@nadarajanpettai9634he talk about Rise of the Ronin, not Ghost of Tsuchima you dumdumb

[@Strangerer69]

If you didn’t know any better, you’d think GOT was made 4 years After ROR.

[@mertcancaglyan7100]

which katana skin is this Jin is carrying on 2:08 ?

[@Only1omer]

Hero of Tsushima

[@Purekindness4]

Yellow one, the hero of Tsushima, who have sworn to protect Tsushima

[@vikingkombat9389]

GOT got wrong with the fire when it came to live grass, especially considering it rains so much.

[@Allanrpsx]

its pretty reasonable, lots of smoke, little spread, then goes out. sure maybe its a humid environment with loamy soil, so probably wouldn't catch fire, but considering different types of green grass will burn whole hillsides this doesnt take much suspension of disbelief

[@dontbothertoreply9755]

the rain aspect depends on your gameplay if you play like a shinobi it rains more if you play as a samurai is sunny, now the grass is green on that one so it has a point.

[@tek87]

Japan is not California. A little flame is not going to grow into an inferno. It's too humid here. The flame will smother when the tip hits the dirt.

[@diegosolis9681]

That is to be expected. The studio behind RotR has a very different kind of focus than Sucker Punch. Graphics and level design have never been their forte, they are better at enemy design and combat design. When RotR was announced I immediately expected these comparisons because PS fans tend to be very, VERY, superficial with games. Graphics are 70% of a game for PS fans, the other 30% is it being an open world.

[@kingplunger1]

Which is funny, because games look best on pc

[@MGnKntkY]

How did you come up with that assumption? Is this another PC gamers are the real gamers take?

[@phillyfanatic11]

I'm glad you're omniscient

[@sirninjaraiden]

@@MGnKntkY I can attest to this. All the PS fans in my frnd group seem to care alot about graphics, fidelity, ect. Things of that nature. It's the same with RoTR. No one seems to be mentioning how much deeper the combat is over tsushima, just that Tsushima "looks better". I mean it does but cmon there's more to a game than graphics

[@MGnKntkY]

@@sirninjaraiden So you're doubling down on PC gamers being better gamers? 😂 How pretentious of you. Thanks for the anecdote on how PS gamers only care about graphics, while you are so much more interested in the things the "really matter in a game." Goofball.

[@CityOfVlone]

I truly feel like if GOT and RoTR came together. We could of had a ground breaking samurai game of the century.

[@stein2484]

На само деле ронин не так уже и плох, просто а Цусиме очень хорошо освещение сделано, благодаря чему картинка более глубокой кажется, а в Ронине как будто яркости перекрутили, может это можно исправить через панель фильтров Nvidia?

[@mirvozy6530]

Солидарен моментами ронин даже лучше, и в тоже время хуже

[@almedinaganovic4359]

Everyone who has eyes will see that GOT is a better looking game and more detailed Rise of Ronin doesn't look bad but it has those washed out graphics from which you can never have that wow moment when you look at it. I remember having those wow monents the entire time playing Ghost of Tsushima.

[@conordarcy9565]

Rise of the ronin looks like someone tried to make ghost of Tsushima as a mobile game

[@StrikerEureka85]

i had never even heard of rise of the ronin but it looks decent enough. i feel like the big difference is that the colors are much more vibrant in GoT.

[@dluffy121]

Ronin seems to have gone for more darker dimmer color shading, while GoT has gone for more poppy colors

[@chocolateman2554]

More like looks like ass

[@marydot768]

Le fait qu'il y ait la magnifique musique de Ghost of Tsushima dès le début et tout le long de la vidéo montre clairement de quel côté penche la balance ;)

[@henkistone2936]

Is this the pc Version? Have you low Settings on? My ghost of Tsushima Looks better.

[@rianadhy92]

🤫 this for fair fights

[@Salty.Peasants]

Rise of the Ronin = GTA Feudal Japan

[@thronosstudios]

The difference between American/Western made games and Japanese is that Western game devs strive for detail and realism. Japan isn't so concerned with realism, so oftentimes the games feel more arcady, snappy and linear in comparison. It's interesting that a lot of Japanese people say "I wish Ghost of Tsuchima was made in Japan” but given the different approaches to game-making between the two cultures, it wouldn't be possible for Japan to make something like GoT... as we can see above. Although, to be fair, Koei and Team Ninja are more used to making series like Dynasty Warriors where small detail takes a backseat to frantic, arcade-like, high speed gameplay.

[@ghostwiter8273]

ghost of tsushima wins 10-0

[@NAGA_93]

근접전투로만 보자면 고오쓰는 무게감이 느껴지는 현실적인 전투를 지향하고 로닌은 가볍지만 빠르고 화려한 전투를 지향하는것 같습니다

[@7dayspking]

Ghosts of Tsushima doesn't manage realistic combat. It's very stylized, similar to western films.

[@TheOGBaldski]

@@7dayspking it does it WAY better than any other game. The reaching is realistic, about 90% of the moves are realistic the only non realistic part are the shield blocks, stagger damage (it's realistic but not in this game) and parries. There's even video's about some pro sword fighters doing Jin's moves.

[@7dayspking]

@@TheOGBaldski Bro. There's combat sports games, those are semi realistic. Ghosts of Tsushima isn't realistic. Ghosts of Tsushima is somewhat authentic to the fantasy of sword combat that's proposed in traditional Japanese martial arts. Idea of waiting idly, then sidestepping an opponent's first attack and making an instantly lethal counter strike is stupid outside demonstrations. Even dumber when you remember Ghosts of Tsushima, and the warring periods in Japan, were filled with guys wearing armour! Battlefields and sieges included missile units, artillery, mounted units, shielded units, barricades, trenches, tight formations of infantry with polearms and later gunpowder weapons. The basic slashes, the simple ones without the spins and theatrics are direct. The thrusts are stylized making them unnecessarily difficult to use, but not impossible. The basic blocking (holding block button), catching incoming strikes with the blade is one of the main ways to intercept incoming strikes, fine. The parries & counters that involve side stepping slashes are wishful thinking. And being able to consistently counter with a single, instantly lethal strike, on armoured enemies no less, is a fantasy. No distances. No movement. No timing. No defence. No combinations. No set ups. No feints. No variation in attacked targets, attacking angles or attacks. Just parry and counter, not reliable to manage consistently against someone actually fighting. Just looks nice in fake demonstrations. When people fight, everybody gets hit until one side lands damaging enough strikes, or a damaging enough strike to hinder the other's ability to fight. That's realistic. If you don't train for that, you're training a fantasy. unless you're training to develop armour to resist attacks.

[@milosstojanovic4623]

​​​@@7dayspkingdid you even play the game !? Do you ever trained with a tachi or katana!? I did, and movement is spot on, he is doing all kind of movements like cugiashi, tenkan, parries are spot on and counter downward and upper slash, swiping with a foot, armpit slash. Yes its more stylized to look like movie cinematic just to be more interesting, and game also has lethal combat, where everyone dies with 2 maybe 3 slashes. You are just oblivious or did not even play the game.

[@SushiGhost97]

It's honestly a shame people just aren't giving Ronin the credit it deserves in the comments or in general. For all the amazing work Suckerpunch has done with Ghost on a visual and story telling perspective, playing Ronin after years of playing Ghost is a bit of a shock to the senses for how much stronger it is as a game. So many more weapon stances and weapon types, and enemy variety within the first few hours than the entirety of Ghost while also having more unique bosses as well. Team Ninja remains painfully overlooked in a medium that pretty obviously prefers visual quality over mechanical depth. Ideally, Yotei would have gameplay to rival Ronin, but I don't think Suckerpunch will ever come close in that regard. Here's hoping we get another Rise of Ronin game one day.

[@ferialnugroho4808]

I hope there is Ghost of Tsushima 2

[@LeviAckerman57551]

I guess there will be

[@BirgittFischer]

But i think jin won't be the hero again

[@LuciTulcea]

I've read about a movie to be made.

[@GTXTITANIUM]

​@@BirgittFischerwhat if jin goes to Mainland and Dies fighting the mongols in end. This would make a great story😅

[@brianbadonde9251]

​@@LuciTulceaI've read that the world's elite are all shape-shifting aliens, doesn't make it true

[@h3nri2030]

Jin's Face got me 😂😂😂 3:48

[@amazingmrpig6369]

He’s such a goober lmao

[@spencerplays9388]

Arrow sounds in Rise of the Ronin sound like sniper shots going off

[@raffaelediomaiuti111]

Cool thing about the horse in Tsushima is also how it came close to you while you ran and the jump on it animation. Shame you didn't show that.

[@Veelaru]

An illustrative example of how a game with arguably better graphics in general can still look inferior to and cheaper than a game with better lighting, weather dynamics, and color design.

[@chocolateman2554]

How does GoT look inferior to ronin when it comes to graphics?? Do you have your eyes only for decoration lol

[@Veelaru]

@@chocolateman2554 you have your brain and comprehending skills for decoration as I clearly implied that GoT looks better despite having worse textures. If you want to sound and look smart, remain silent - my friendly advice.

[@Jace.1sEditz]

​​@@Veelaruno what , GoT texture is better as it looks more lively and realistic than RoTr, You trippin or wut??

[@Veelaru]

@@Jace.1sEditz oh shit, here we go again…

[@taneridle6299]

@@Veelaru you're right, I feel like GoT sometimes uses too much bloom to compensate for bad textures but it looks a lot better overall. Also the particle physics are insane

[@Subject98]

I admit I don't normally get into open world games much but Ghost of Tsushima is one of the few I loved. Still hoping a sequel is in the works.

[@educatedduck6618]

Having these 2 games in the same sentence is insane. I can't believe people are defending Rise of Ronin, the game is so terrible, especially compared to GOT.

[@humildedosgames3445]

Muita gente criticou os graficos do Rise of the Ronin , mas dão uma chance a esse jogo , ele tem uma história muito boa e...um combate magnífico e viciante recomendo, o jogo não é ruin tem bastante detalhes, nem tudo e gráficos , ja vi jogos com graficos lindos mais que são muito ruins ou muito chatos... então "nunca julguem o livro pela capa" .

[@RaulMazuchelli]

historia dele foi um lixo ridiculo e mal feito KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK

[@humildedosgames3445]

@@RaulMazuchelli pq ? Q q vc n gostou?

[@BandacootK13]

one of my favorite ghost of tsushima details is when you walk slowly though any field of white reeds (the ones you can crouch to hide in) Jin will turn his palm out to pass them over the stalks as he walks

[@Paul-폴]

Ghost of Tsushima is better than Rise of Ronin but I think in motion GOT look more realistic while RoR look like anime physics that why I give the Ghost of Tsushima the win

[@rickythomas9698]

I think GOT focuses on more grounded reality compared ROR where it's more over anime esque, hence glider.

[@dominiclaw9232]

in ghost u cant even wear a kimono so rise of ronin wins in outfit quantity and customization which is 10 times better than ghost of sashimi

[@amazingmrpig6369]

@@dominiclaw9232ghost of sashimi 😭

[@saikyue4462]

Close up the ronin graphics actually look better in many places, the game just has an overall less vibrant and grainy look which makes it feel like older games we know like nioh or sekiro

[@ResestivePoet47]

Ghost of Tsushima is the best ex Playstation exclusive imo. Beautiful graphics, amazing combat, great story, phenominal sound design, and the setting is what people have wanted for so long. It's truly something to appreciate. Especially with how games are these day.

[@chickentricep129]

Rise of the ronin actually looks surprisingly good, people will bitch about anything crying as if its playing in pixels.

[@GrimReaper.123]

Literally everyone’s “defence” for not playing the game is that it looked like a “ps3 game” even though it looks pretty good and is clearly interested in gameplay and story

[@Never_GamePlayZ]

meat riding is crazy

[@flux2956]

ps5 game in 2024 and looks like that? Nah... it looks like a modded 2012 game.

[@mete7212]

Ghost of Tsushima is work of art Rise of the Ronin looks old generation game

[@Netduelist]

Horse in GOT: avoids water. Horse in ROTR :drowns the comparison was funny despite the poor horse sinking like a stone. Also love both these games~

[@raykelvin567]

Ghost of tsushima is winning in every aspect... But i still gonna try to play ronin when it comes to PC, really love that character creation stuff

[@MakimaShihaiNoAkuma]

It doesn't win in combat.

[@franciscor390]

Ronin destroys GoT in combat. It's not even on the same league. It also has more interesting things to do with it's open world.

[@thabangsibanda3282]

​@@franciscor390nah it depends on the kind of combat you like. ghost has a somewhat realistic and grounded combat, while Ronin combat is fantasy and over the top.

[@dominiclaw9232]

in ghost u cant even wear a kimono so rise of ronin wins in outfit quantity and customization which is 10 times better than ghost of sashimi

[@EDSAB-x8f]

​@@thabangsibanda3282realistic😂😂😂😂 you know that in reality Mongols killed all samurai on Tsushima?

[@Dex-Emu]

Why Rise of Ronin looks like PS3 game in specific aspects? Is it just me?

[@LyllianaofMirrah]

it looks like RDR1 but for me it's fine i guess

[@maskofacryingclown3]

It's an open world game. Team ninja doesn't have a budget like got or lou. Nioh 2 looks graphically better than ror. But being an open world game. budgets get cut in different areas of the game. Nioh 2 looks better and is small open worlds. Ror looks not as good but is open world with tons more quests and more styles to different weapons.

[@chris42069]

They don't understand art direction and lighting

[@alphaomega154]

i just realize the actor of ghost of tsushima is the "50 year old japanese man" in youtube. by the way, the ronin jerking the sword to clean stains before sheathing the sword is "symbolical" in samurai teaching. they warriors dont really have to or actually doing that fin real situations. also having the holster/sheath with the sword edge facing up like in the tsushima game is the more common in real world than the one in ronin. because when you sheath the sword back into its holster/sleeve without looking you have to make sure you wont cut yourself when you lining up the base of the sword with the holster's opening, when you 'floss" the sword on the holster opening's lip from the hand guard level all the way to the tip until it meets. you want to make sure the dull side(the back) touches with your hand and the holster tip, not the sharp edge. thats why than it will sheath back in facing UP. surprising that western developer sucker punch studio actually doing it more accurate.

[@phantom6441]

It's evolving just backwards

[@dominiclaw9232]

in ghost u cant even wear a kimono so rise of ronin wins in outfit quantity and customization which is 10 times better than ghost of sashimi

[@phantom6441]

@@dominiclaw9232 and u wanna compare a game with dozen of elements to a game that is only slightly better in outfits ? I guess people are also evolving backwards

[@Otsuton-Senku]

​@@phantom6441 Destroyed 😂

[@DevilWolf000]

I mean Sekiro exists no point playing any of these games.

[@phantom6441]

@@DevilWolf000 you're funny ..

[@acezero12345]

Just got it on pc thank you.

[@max-jm7hy]

I bet u pirate it lol

[@disas6112]

Yeah, and? ​@@max-jm7hy

[@dannycapone24]

@@max-jm7hy come sail the seas noob

[@flux2956]

brokie

[@andreymonteirohl]

I want that for Xbox series X, do you guys know anything similar?

[@KaiseRKay]

The more i see other games comparing stuff like this the more i love RDR2

[@chris42069]

GoT has much, MUCH better better gameplay than anything Rockstar has ever done

[@Joshboi-sq5cn]

Check the neck meat for the horse on Ronin bro! 😂

[@Trillgameing101]

Huh

[@ItsMe-dy4vi]

my personal opinion about the graphics from Rise of Ronin: after watching only this video, it gives me vibes of a mix of 3 games, sekiro design, the theme of the world reminds me of Darksouls because its so grey and fade and the graphics itself looks like the witcher 3

[@滝沢孝宣]

私はゴーストオブツシマ大好き

[@ZenriqueFS]

Rise of The Ronin is a bad joke, game looks like a ps3 title 😂😂

[@incredibilistic]

The art direction in both games is stunningly different. I haven't played Rise of the Ronin (ROTR) yet but based on this video I can already tell that I might struggle getting through it knowing that it's essentially the same game as Ghost with much a less vibrant backdrop. That said, both games have their advantages and disadvantages, but Ghost seems to be the better overall package (though having a glider in Ghost would be awesome). One detail I didn't care for in ROTR is that he doesn't have a quiver. He's reaching back and pulling arrows out of the ether (or out of his ass). But in Ghost, Jin is carrying a quiver and you can actually see his inventory of arrows. And yes, being able to take them back from trees or on the ground is great since they're in short supply. From the looks of it, ROTR has unlimited arrows since there's no HUD to indicate what you're carrying and/or arrows remaining.

[@Ludde1478]

rise of the ronin looks like a game from 2013

[@AlexGee-l7m]

Rise of ronin looks like a Ubisoft version of Ghost of Tsushima from 2006 💀💀💀

[@lemontea9485]

the most important thing in games, is fun and enjoyment. Personally, I enjoy when I do the details easily and in multiple ways, rather than being realistic, heavy, and boring, and the focus is on the story phase, how to fight, and the creative and new additions.

[@Warrior_478]

the marketting team of the rise of the ronin didnt do their job

[@N3orion]

Ronin looks unfinished here

[@FortunaAbrego]

Ghost of Tsushima’s story, gameplay environment and soundtrack fit together so well, guys I get that RDR2 was amazing I know iv played it too but for some reason ghost is Tsushima had me staring at the sunset for ages and immersing myself in the gameplay not to mention the styles and charms making your play style unique and the difficulty settings and visual settings were so customizable along with the armor sets GOT is still in my opinion one of the best games iv ever played

[@-Nezuko__Chan-]

Rise of ronin got roblox ah animations

[@christopherjones5827]

😊

[@max-jm7hy]

What's Roblox?

[@sammorossi]

​@@max-jm7hysome kids game, the person also has a roblox pfp

[@wowvain2989]

@@sammorossi no he doesn't? it's nezuko from Demon Slayer

[@EDSAB-x8f]

Of course, the game had less budget.