Who's the BEST Playable Character? (Not Batman) | Arkham Tier List

[@GameDenColor]

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[@xavierbelmont8935]

Clearly Somewhere down the line I don't know where you didn't get the fact that the point of Azrael was to be batman. Because He is Bruce Wayne's successor to become Batman. He is indeed the next Batman.

[@TheShadow14150]

I played as joker on Xbox, the “game of the year edition” allow you to play as joker. It’s really funny playing as Joker 😂!

[@Official_Ardo]

Honestly feel like Red Hood being a cheat code in-game reflects a lot on Batman as a character because while Batman can decimate all of his rogue's gallery and be a menace worse than Red Hood, he still doesn't break his no-kill rule showing the difficulty of this through his gameplay. That to me is why Red Hood is so broken because he is Batman without limitations.

[@DrEcho]

Even more, all his sneak takedowns are super fast silent neck snaps, even if you hasten them. And, my favorite bit. He has an unlisted combat move. If you use a stun grenade with quickfire (L2+circle) and it connects and stuns an enemy, you can mash melee (square) to do a "beatdown" from a distance but instead of punches the animation is him alternating firing his pistols faster and faster like a normal beatdown.

[@blastthechaos6083]

You can kinda see this in the final combat section of the game (final if you did all the other side quests first before the finale) with the Joker hallucinations, Batman performs "Joker Takedown" which are essentially Batman actually murdering attacks (flat out breaks Joker spine and shit) which goes to show how much he holds back

[@owenashton3731]

People who say he doesn't kill the goons or guards, clearly haven't used detective vision and looked at what their status is called, people don't think he actually killed In the dlc, but he says he isn't batman at one point of the dlc and if you use silent takedown and snap the neck or used the guns it says "neutralised" instead of "unconscious" like it does with batman's methods

[@alexhambleton9513]

If only he could disarm enemies like Batman does then he would be even more broken

[@BuggersOnMahShoes]

@@owenashton3731 +on the dlc where he takes on the black mask gang, at the very end, he literally just throws black mask of a building even though black mask sweared he would leave gotham after red hood killed his entire gang

[@Passive_dehydration]

In red hood’s detective mode, unlike Batman’s, his ‘dead’ text just says ‘NEUTRALISED’

[@pedroruivo1624]

Eu acho meio "preguiçoso" como o Capuz Vermelho tem poucas animações de golpes e meio feio como ele bate nos inimigos com a arma, quero dizer, seria muito mais maneiro se ele usasse socos violentos ao invés de coronhadas

[@johnelegante109]

@@pedroruivo1624 socos, mesmo sendo de um homem forte como o Jason não doem mais que uma coronhada, muito menos causam mais danos, de um ponto de vista logico, é o melhor, é claro, além dos tiros

[@Budgness]

doesn't batman's say deceased?

[@Pikochabi]

@@Budgnessyes it does

[@JagoShogun]

I love how people here speak english, these portugese understand, then reply in a language no one knows@@pedroruivo1624

[@nrnrn999]

Azrael sits as the absolute worst for me, just for missed opportunities. You could have him be brutal, using his sword and brute force to take out foes and instead we just got a knock-off Batman skin which doesn't even fit Azrael's whole vibe.

[@jakubpuchalski2583]

That gliding is unforgivable

[@blastthechaos6083]

He did say that he was trying to be Batman's successor and even adopted his no-kill rule so that's why he plays a lot like him

[@nrnrn999]

@@blastthechaos6083 I think they could have pulled off the no-kill rule without sacrificing the sword. Make his normal attacks brutal heavy punches and headbutts . The sword can be a gadget with slow but hard-hitting blows, using the sword as a blugeon rather than using the sharp blade. Add in throwing knives instead of batarangs and give his other gadgets more of a makeshift feel, like he's trying to replicate Batman but without all the tech and money, and I think you've got a cool character. Also... just no gliding with that cape.

[@haydenrhead7692]

Could’ve just used Batman’s animations when he’s fighting clay face with a sword

[@jeffythesomething8772]

I could see azreal using his sword for small cuts and unique blade takedowns as well as destroying melee weapons and guns. He just doesn’t use it for full on penatration or cutting off limbs.

[@radicalcoolguy8702]

Im surprised no one found out Deathstroke can instantly open vents and destroy those explosive gell walls with one punch

[@Ayyothatsbrandogaming]

I never knew that ngl

[@smartii3s]

he can instantly open vents?

[@radicalcoolguy8702]

@@smartii3s yea he just tears them open instead of mashing a

[@nielsfrederiksen6636]

He also has a healing factor. Try it. Let him take some damage and wait 5 seconds. He will start to regain health, all the way to full

[@radicalcoolguy8702]

@@nielsfrederiksen6636 damn really he's basically just a buffed batman

[@TheXell]

Red Hood summed up: "For his neutral special, he wields a gun."

[@georgehouliaras7239]

It's Sakurai's "Vision"

[@GigasMain505]

Basically yea 😂

[@ctdaniels7049]

Bullet wizard casts Gun!

[@bsgfan1]

Fun fact: Deathstroke is the only playable metahuman in the franchise. What you didn’t mention about him is that his powers _do_ impact gameplay. To start, Deathstroke is the only character that passively regenerates health. He’s also the strongest playable character in the series, which lets you punch through walls and remove grate covers with a single button press. When using the Disarm and Destroy move, Deathstroke knocks the enemy down when disarming them instead of just pushing them away.

[@MILDMONSTER1234]

Yeah some reason a lot of modern deathstroke fans seem to just not know hes a superhuman lmao

[@thenoirknight5729]

​@@MILDMONSTER1234 Really? I find that hard to believe. Deathstroke being a super human is one of the first things you learn about him

[@orzen_the_orzo933]

​@@thenoirknight5729idk much about the character so I didn't know this lol

[@Skyx5m50]

@@MILDMONSTER1234They confuse him with dead shot and assume he’s just another mercenary.

[@MiraiFreak]

​@@thenoirknight5729probably because he got knocked out by Arkham Knight Batman with 1 punch?

[@lautarolynn8834]

I always had the theory that Azrael wasn't originally meant to be playable in challenge mode but people thought it was weird that you could use him in the story, so they added him as free dlc.

[@VoidJWKDDOUS]

Free DLC as a playable skin or just a free playable character to use in challenge modes?

[@ClintOrWhatever]

He was added (from what I can tell) in October or November 2015 which was around the time of the Robin and Catwoman DLC, so he was a decently late addition. Yeah, I think he was only added cause it'd be kind of weird not to. And I'm guessing that he was quite literally a reskin in the base game, but they didn't want to just make him a costume.

[@ethanchastain9282]

It always bothered me that Azrael didn’t get the knightfall Batman suit as an extra skin

[@ultimateaquiles]

Hell, it bothers me even more he doesn't have any extra skins at all. Same for Batgirl

[@JocaWars]

⁠@@ultimateaquilesYES to more Batgirl skins. I mean I’m in love with the Arkham one, but it would’ve been cool to have her comic suits and even Stephanie/Cassandra’s suits.

[@endercreeper6545]

Or even his Arkham city suit

[@NobodyNowhere888]

@@JocaWarsWould have loved to have seen a BTAS/The New Batman Adventures skin for Barbara’s Batgirl.

[@altalia07]

Ughhh that wouldve been sick

[@comicfan1324]

Honestly, they should’ve reskinned Nightwing’s first-person darts to be a sniper rifle for Deathstroke. The implication would be if you shoot them in the head they immediately die but if you shoot them anywhere else, he would’ve hit them in a nonlethal spot and just fall over in pain.

[@darkshadow2314]

And imagine if you could ricochet the shots to hit multiple enemies

[@theoutlawking9123]

Excellent idea, especially since his Prime 1 statue even comes with a Scoped Assault Rifle yet he doesn't have it in game.

[@caffeinefreak2274]

The one thing that's unforgivable about Nightwing is that they didn't give him a takedown animation on shock baton thugs where he juggles it with his escrima sticks. Also, Catwoman and Harley can walk on tightropes in Arkham Knight but the collision for it is pretty buggy.

[@greenarrow3756]

i think i have managed to walk on a rope once with catwoman

[@bigharryyy03]

Harley isn’t playable in City

[@camdenfix7217]

​@@bigharryyy03It says knight

[@ethandoyle4978]

Cool ranking and honestly I feel another con for robin is “why didn’t they move the “red robin” suit from city to knight . That design was amazing and it would’ve been nice to see Tim make it after the events of Arkham knight.

[@Montesama314]

Yes, someone else misses the Red Robin suit! I've actually liked that suit since I saw comic art of it. It surely would have looked amazing in Arkham Knight, and being able to wear it in Robin's Arkham Episode would have been a little reference to the "Batman RIP" story.

[@arthurfleck629]

Yes, it’s such an awesome suit, it deserves way more love than it gets

[@shadowking773]

That suit is memey

[@dannyhernandez265]

I was mad they didn’t let deathstroke have a gun while playing as him. Or not being able to use his sword. Probably to maintain the T rating. Still this makes me want a deathstroke game.

[@dannyhernandez265]

@Witch_Hunter_Siegfried88 well they didn’t let Deathstroke have a gun or even use his sword… so idk why either.

[@sidecharacter7165]

At least they gave him a healing factor and the ability to punch through walls

[@spikem5950]

A Deathstroke game would be amazing. His depiction in Arkham is such a wasted opportunity with how much potential the character has. Give him his dual swords and guns.

[@tallymanz6756]

Probably because they hadn't quite figured out how to make those kinds of weapons work for the freeflow combat. You'll notice Arkham Joker only gets one shot, and Jason has to actually stand in place and unload several (How they eventually got around the damage the guns theoretically do, by having it be a long-form interruptable). As for swords the only time you use a sword in the Arkham games as I recall is against Clayface and his little clay minions who are chopped apart with every hit, which even suspended the T-rating would mean having to create a whole "dismemberment" system for would probably have slaughtered the game's tone and probably would have made freeflow combat harder as you wouldn't have thugs to combo off of.

[@kreischenderdepp113]

Small correction: Deathstroke doesn't have the reverse claw (or however it is called) just like Batman, he had it in the first place and Batman stole it from him after their boss battle.

[@batguy39]

Literally, ty

[@tritonus162]

He meant in his arsenal in their respective gameplay experiences. The experiences feel the same bc they both have the same thing when you play as them.

[@300-f1p]

definitely Jonkler, no one other than him could hit the griddy in the franchise

[@DefinitelyAPerson1]

Why can’t anyone else hit the griddy? Are they stupid?

[@copyrightstrike6949]

Infamous griddy takedown

[@JK_PlayzReal]

Agreed

[@peacove]

Officer Balls

[@DanielBotes]

​@@peacoveBWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

[@georgeedwards8189]

If you ask me, Red Hood comes as close as to playing the Punisher in a game based on Arkham Knight's style. I mean, could you imagine if we got a Punisher game that was like Arkham City and Knight? Or better yet, a Spawn game that's similar to City and Knight?

[@ultimateaquiles]

Also I think Nightwing comes as close as it gets to playing as Daredevil in an Arkham style game. Could you imagine that? Arkham style Daredevil game, swinging through the city in the rain with amazing graphics?

[@darvelmc9070]

Marvel Ultimate Alliance 4, get on with it!

[@Rad-Dude63andathird]

Open world Spawn would be imo the best goddamn comic book game you could make. Don't hold back on the gore but still allow Spawn to be nonlethal on certain opponents, call up Keith David, and you got me.

[@applehazeva2739]

YEEEES ​@@Rad-Dude63andathird

[@UndisputedBillyBadass]

@@Rad-Dude63andathirdthey already have a spawn game for ps2 you can get it for free with pcsx2

[@yuishishido8780]

It is kind of strange that Nightwing wasn’t voiced. Nightwing is pretty well known for his sarcasm and quips.

[@wyattthewyster1578]

He’s voiced in Arkham Knight

[@Guywhosaysbooya]

​@@wyattthewyster1578op knows that pal 😭

[@fanta_claws]

7:23 I wonder why they added Bruce as a playable character in a batman game, are they related 🤔 wait a minute, maybe he knows the secret identity of batman

[@Guywhosaysbooya]

🤯🤯

[@gau3131]

a fun thing about catwoman is that you dont have to crouch behind an opponent, her running is silent. so you can straight up run behind the enemy and silent takedown them

[@blazembz7713]

Nightwing in City felt like his own hero with his own tools of the trade. In Knight, he is nerfed so hard to the point I don't play him at all for predator encounters. In Arkham City, he's the most unique, and he's actually fun in that game

[@Crizzly122]

Red Hood would be way better if he didn't have to fire his guns 13 times. If he could just quickly pop a guy, and continue beating the others, he'd feel a lot better imo. Obviously they would have to give the guns a cooldown maybe so it's not too broken or maybe a limited amount of ammo, and Jason would have to reload after a number of shots. Maybe tie it to his combo meter somehow? Idk

[@theoutlawking9123]

This guy doesn't know wtf he's talking about, he's acting like you have to shoot all the time with RH, you Don't, it's just an option. All the other "options" you have as Batman ends the same way, they end up unconscious. Since Bruce doesn't kill, he needs a million different ways to disarm people. Jason doesn't play with bad guys, he eliminates them, so of course he would have let moves than batman since he doesn't fuck around.

[@Blundabus1337]

Joker should be toppest tier. Why? Because he kicks a dude in the balls hits the griddy and then dies.

[@Guywhosaysbooya]

😂😂

[@amyaurion]

Red Hood isn't the tank you would expect him to be because he was tortured for a whole year. If you look at the way he stands and walks, you'll notice that he has a permanently bowed back from the combination of being tied up with barbed wire and hung up by his wrists which definitely dislocated his shoulders. Basically the guy is a torture survivor who is still fucking kicking ass.

[@jaffinator2166]

Actually Batgirl is pretty much Asylum Batman in Arkham Knight. Which is pretty neat.

[@ftdaj]

I don't really know why, but my favorite character to play as is Batgirl. I like the fluidity in her fighting style and she gets disarm and destroy which is always welcome. But yeah. She's just Batman.

[@diegopansini3152]

Yeah, they stepped it up when animating Batgirl’s movements and takedowns. That’s why she feels more satisfying to play with than the rest of the characters

[@ftdaj]

@@diegopansini3152 I can tell. They are all really smooth animations and she obviously seems more nimble than Batman.

[@roger5555ful]

Same,i adored playing with her

[@frankejk]

she's batman but with tits, so basically just a better batman

[@theoutlawking9123]

​@@diegopansini3152 Seriously, she's your favorite, out of everybody? Less skilled, skinny Batman 😂

[@charliewelch4301]

What's unique to only Deathstroke is in predator modes. He's the only one that can break a vent without button mashing or sliding into a vent

[@godfrey4461]

Also passive regen and apparently hits a little harder.

[@parrisxsummers]

Catwoman is my favourite, her speed is so fun. The running instead of crouching to take people down and the free flow is sooo fast. Also Catwoman’s their vision is just her pulling her high tech goggles down. If you look at her face when she is in it, you see then goggles over her eyes😊

[@hansluuv]

The thing I hate about thief vision is that you can’t tell which goon is which in knight which makes dealing w medics and mine layers hell

[@player_8008]

@@hansluuv while it is annoying, it's something that sets her apart from batman so i can at least appreciate that in a sort of roundabout way

[@Reach008]

Arkham city Nightwing was peak, I really wish they gave his wing gliders from the New Adventures series. It killed me how they nerfed him in Knight. Oh wow they updated him with the RC gun, fantastic, can we get his darts back?

[@JA-iw8pr]

With the mullett to complete the animated look..that skin was still really clean. He needs a game with his own story not like gotham knights and maybe centered in bludhaven.

[@ryanmessina7309]

Both Arkham Knight and Gotham Knights had weird traversal for Nightwing when he has a wingsuit in the comics. That would have been something at least

[@Matt-ij7pe]

the saddest things about these exctra characters is that Deathstroke and Azrael never used their signature weapons except as enemies-- the sword. AND the fact that BATMAN himself uses one briefly towards the end of City... and then just throws it away. That makes sense for his character, but it would have been nice to have the option to use it somehow in free roam, as it added a really interesting flair to combat. Although, I guess If I really wanted that, i could just go play the Middle Earth games instead. Eru above, those games are freaking fun. I need another.

[@GrammarNaziAUS]

The devs for the Middle Earth games are making a Wonder Woman game, so your wish may *just* come true, albeit in a different form than you expect. Of course, they may just take away her sword and shield, but we'll just have to see.

[@ubermaster134]

@@GrammarNaziAUS There hasn't been any news about the WW game for 2 years. Hopefully we get something at some point

[@player_8008]

you know it's funny, in middle earth i always wished talion could punch just because it would be fun to be able to weaken myself, and in arkham knight i always wish azrael had his sword just because it would be fun to be able to make him stronger

[@thedarkknightdetective2559]

I absolutely loved playing as batgirl yes she comes off as a batman clone but playing as my all tome favorite female character is just great

[@roger5555ful]

The way she uses leverage to compensate for her lack of raw strengths made me fall in love immediately

[@ruanquang3367]

Yea I love her animations, to me they make her so unique it's great, but I also agree everyone should have their own unique gadgets

[@Ten_Thousand_Locusts]

18:03 "butt" I saw that sneaky edit. Nice job!

[@GameDenColor]

Finally someone recognizes my genius

[@Ten_Thousand_Locusts]

​@@GameDenColorayyy, timing was on point lol. I love little touches like that, it doesn't go unappreciated homie.

[@aounaloevera4080]

She has a Lotta asssspects

[@DefinitelyNotFort]

I knew I was the only one

[@drwfigureadventures]

Oh how I wish so much that Arkham Knight still received updates. Like honestly they could monetise it a bit if that helped and people would absolutely pay (if enough was included to warrant it) My main ask would be that they made the other characters playable in the open world… even if that meant adding and tweaking a few mechanics to make traversing the map actually possible/practical.

[@Memu_]

​@@brunixproIf you play on pc there are mods that allow you to do that

[@colmecolwag]

Literally yesterday they added The Batman 2022 skin to the Epic Games Store version of Knight And I have no idea why or what they're setting up for.

[@honokakazuno]

​@@colmecolwagIt got removed. People think Epic added it too early and that it was supposed to be added when the Arkham games are on Switch

[@Irose_YTBE]

There's so many outfits the game is still missing for other characters. Robin, Catwoman and Harley never got their looks from previous games, and Harley has a plethora of other outfits that could've been DLC around the time the game came out (Suicide Squad movie, Injustice outfits, New 52). I get the game is a BATMAN game but the other characters barely getting additional outfits at best, or none at all at worst is still kind of disappointing

[@Miriam_J_]

@@colmecolwag Don't get too excited, it's just a tie in for the Switch port. Rocksteady is too busy trying to desperately salvage what they can in their Suicide Squad game to have time to plan a new Batman game.

[@owenashton3731]

Nah, red hoods definitely approved tier for me anyway, he has a unique fighting style that mixes the training he got as Robin, but has his own spin on that aswell, he doesnt care about the no killing rule, he doesnt let the villians get any chance batman would give or has gave them to get free again, he has the most brutal takedowns and honestly he felt like he was on some good good because he is way more swift and fast paced in hand to hand and will make deadshot and deathstroke look like circus clowns from how deadly he is with range and close quarters fighting

[@oliverdiop7530]

Exactly, he's so good. Not to mention he's the only character with a ranged Beatdown. He just feels so unique in all areas fr

[@Skyx5m50]

Same it feels so satisfying playing as red hood. I love his brawling fighting style.

[@theoutlawking9123]

Exactly, best character in the whole series yet this clown put him in 3rd place, goddamn idiot.

[@diegopansini3152]

Honestly, Batgirl is the most satisfying to play with. Her takedown animations feel a lot smoother and more satisfying than the ones we’re used to. They really stepped it up when making her character

[@linkheroofspiritsakatrains4812]

If only we got to use her more

[@justarandomguy3266]

Her stealth feels a little more unique too, with the whole usage of thw Remote Hacking Device to hack certain things to do blackouts (which prompts you for a Ambush Takedown which is her version of the fear takedown) and distractions, and its like the disruptor, but sort of different

[@theoutlawking9123]

Really, cause I can't take her seriously, even in a video game, a girl who weighs like 90 lbs, skinny as a scarecrow, somehow choking out behemoths who look like they weigh the same as Bane.

[@ericlayton8888]

⁠@@theoutlawking9123igy completely but for me that just makes me avoid open brawls and be more strategic with her. My only problem with Babs is that in the comics she has the best looking costumes and in the game you only get one skin for her

[@bobbilly7232]

@@theoutlawking9123that’s basically the size difference between Batman and Bane tbh, except Batgirl and Average Goon

[@madmikefollower6939]

You forgot to rank child Bruce

[@xavierbelmont8935]

That would be under the Batman category because you are under the influence of Scarecrow Toxin when you play young Bruce.

[@just.Harley]

I kind of disagree with Harley's placement, I think she's atleast rock-solid. I find it not so bad to work around her loud-takedowns and her limited gadgets are pretty effective with how multi purpose they are. The bomb attracts goons functioning as her own lure that also works as a killing explosive gel. The Snare traps work as a baterang the way you can quick fire them, but also functions as a freeze grenade the way it traps people for long periods of time, it can help a lot with escaping situations. I love her movement and i find her to feel pretty nice to control once you've played her for a while (I'm a little bit of a harley quinn fan so she's by far my most played character)

[@godfrey4461]

Exactly. The guy thinks that if they aren't brain dead easy like City's Nightwing, or aren't one for one Batman they suck. Quinn requires you to play her differently than the rest of the cast. She's probably the hardest not because she's awkward, but because she requires a different perspective of play.

[@RetroActivityGaming]

Harley is one of the most overrated and garbage tier characters to grace consoles. The comics make her out to be way more important than she actually is, she is an obnoxiously dumb and awful character.

[@just.Harley]

@@RetroActivityGaming I'm sorry that you don't like the character. I hope you see the light someday

[@Wizofmincraft]

@@RetroActivityGaming Harley quinn is a great character you’ve obviously just never ingested media that portrayed her correctly. That or you just don’t like women which either way sounds like a you problem

[@wewserlethaldude9]

I've honestly always liked Nightwing in combat because he hits so quickly, and with such satisfying sounds.

[@senor_zero3337]

in Arkham City i loved playing with Robin

[@CianMurphy_89]

Wow it’s so weird I loved robin in knight but he was my least favourite I. City I loved noghtwing

[@CianMurphy_89]

Sorry for the spelling errors

[@gamingpanda7516]

I agree with you on Deathstroke. They really made him non Deathstroke. He’s in the series for an hour and is basically gone. He’s the only playable mercenary too and it still feels like they did him dirty. Really makes me feel sad and wonder if they had bigger plans for him at the beginning.

[@SchwarzerHaufen]

they literally turned bro into 'Stroke' 💀

[@skin_lizard]

I think technically in Origins they didn't just have bigger plans for him, but for a lot of other villains, too- If I remember right a lot of the staff came out and said that you were actually supposed to be able to free roam and play in challenge maps as multiple villains, but they ended up being crunched for time and it only came out as the online mode and Deathstroke in challenge maps. There's actually also a recoverable, mostly finished Joker for use in challenge maps that people found by modding the game.

[@gamingpanda7516]

@@skin_lizard That would’ve been more than amazing

[@skin_lizard]

@@gamingpanda7516 Absolutely, but they just weren't given near enough time :(

[@luiginumber2007]

I’m upset that they got rid of the staff beat down that Robin had in Arkham city.

[@Nathan35077]

Arkham city made me want a catwoman game so badly. Like yes Batman is objectively the better playable character. He just has way more versatility and gadgets because he’s the star. But catwoman was so much more fun to play as! And imagine a more close-quarters open world game where you’re a thief and you get quests from people to retrieve items and have to find your own way to do it, without the game telling you “you can do it loud or quiet, here are your 2 options”. You just know the location and it’s your job to figure out how you’ll get in and out. Trial and error, and homework. You have to case the place to learn peoples movements, or you can improvise and just run in and hope for the best. You steal stuff on your own time as well, just to sell to vendors to get new gear and stuff. Have your own player home you can decorate, etc. like a fully-fledged open world RPG. But less vertical of an open world due to her limitations. Hence the close-quarters type of world. You’re not Batman flying above the city quickly. Or they could just give her a better way to traverse the map to fix that. But it would just be a really fun and different experience.

[@Nathan35077]

And obviously theft wouldn’t be the ONLY thing you can do. There would be tons of different quests, which determine your moral compass and whatnot. I think it would be a real challenge to make a game like that, but could be so good if done right.

[@booki7057]

I've always been wanting a (modern) catwoman game!!! That ps2 game was my obsession as a kid, even if it is objectively trash lol. I so badly hope we get a catwoman game.

[@gothgrrl8711]

i always wanted it too but they don't want girls to win...

[@Nathan35077]

@@gothgrrl8711 I think it just doesn’t sell well. The majority of gamers are men, so they’re trying to tailor everything to them. Which is unfortunate, because other games would still sell. But they want to maximize profits… it does seem every year more and more women are gaming though, so let’s hope in the future companies will realize there’s a huge market in it! I mean a lot of guys loved playing as catwoman. But I don’t know if they’d buy a game that ONLY lets you play as catwoman, because I feel they would market it towards women. Which would turn a lot of guys off. They need to realize they just need to market towards gamers. Not a specific gender.. I always play as female characters when given the option.

[@Dhampire1976]

So uh Who's gonna tell em?

[@comicfan1324]

I think, Azerel is probably the most disappointing character. Even with how disappointing knight wing is in Arkham knight, at least he has at least one or two unique gadgets still. Azriel is just a worse version of Batman. So this so I would’ve fixed it: First, before you even meet Azriel, in his subplot, you can learn at the GCPD, that a crate full of Batman/super villain evidence has been stolen: • A Couple Batarangs (Batman throws enough of those that criminals and doesn’t go back to pick them up. So, I wouldn’t be surprised if the GCPD got a hold of one or two.) • The Shock Gloves • Prototype Freeze Grenades • Deathstroke’s grappling gun You figure out once you start playing as Azriel, that he was the one who broke into the police station and took the weapons (seeing as he was once an officer, he could definitely sneak his way in.) In addition, by using whatever materials he could get his hands on, he built replicas of some of Batman’s gadgets: • Explosive Gel Gun (Origins: Blackgate) • Ultra Bat-Claw • Sonic Batarang And, as a fun callback, he still has access to the remote control Batarang Batman through at him in Arkham City Since he simply reusing gadgets from throughout the series, it seems within the realm of possibility that he could have all of these, since they would just have to re-create the assets, but it would make him feel unique, and now I having him use gadgets that are familiar to us long time fans of the series (as he uses gadgets used in all three prior Arkham games. That way he still feels like a Batman rip off, but unique from this specific playable Batman.)

[@bmore7823]

Arkham city cat woman was my absolute favorite to play easily with her unique stealth mechanics and traversal. I’m so glad arkham city let her play in the open world

[@pacoramon9468]

Playing with Bane was a blast in the online mode.

[@lhagwha]

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[@Need_RnR]

Bane *and* Joker ... Yeah. 🤡🤡🤡 💥 👺 💥 - 🦇 🐦

[@billy_bobys8701]

I like how joker kicks you in the balls then hits the griddy

[@devilsorchard1449]

Imagine how cool "A Flip of a Coin" would've been if Tim was Red Robin...

[@voquochuy7086]

Most playable characters in Knight will get higher score if all of them has Disarm and Destroy takedown. Especially for those who enjoy the endless map in Knight, it will get absolutely horrible after a while and fills with shield and electronic baton enemies

[@jackleson860]

In Arkham Asylum, Batman can’t jump through windows either…

[@chrismoore5333]

Nightwing in Arkham Knight has the best combat period. He has the grapple special move, the one for the electric gun, all his original ones, the best free flow, environmental moves, and more. He is still capable in predator as well. As for Red hood, the guy may have been character assassinated in the story, but his gameplay deserved more time!

[@you-5-iver804]

For predator he got nerfed to shit. He shouldve had his wing dings and Wrist darts

[@chrismoore5333]

@@you-5-iver804 he should have had his wrist darts. The wing ding was pointless and ridiculous tho.

[@kkduds3119]

Stop crouching with catwoman! Just run! They cant hear you either way!

[@TheFirstCurse1]

*Can't Anyway there's reason to crouch as Catwoman. It makes you harder to see, and the animation is nice.

[@LukeRojas]

​@@TheFirstCurse1We all like her crouching.

[@SpeedDemon55]

My favourites are City Nightwing and Knight Red Hood.

[@dannyhernandez265]

Bro City Nightwing has the coolest design to me. I just selected the City Nightwing skin the whole time for Arkham Knight. Lol.

[@xMadMurdockx]

I thought red hood was a complete badass in Arkham Knight the way he dressed and he actually killed his enemies something that batman would never do

[@snnnaaaaaakeeeee4470]

In general he is also just the best character of them all. His silent takedowns are extremely fast he is capable of killing enemies in one shot with his unlimited ammo duel guns.

[@KingSonic1991]

Well to be fair batman took the remote claw from deathstroke soooooo yeah

[@nadken3316]

Robin doesn't have his staff beatdown from ArkhamCity in ArkhamKnight, its just a regular Batman beatdown

[@lazersoupe]

The other characters get left behind in Knight. In some maps they just switch out enemies they can't deal with for 2 riot shields. Some challenge maps just become riot shield combat forever

[@GingerNinja-os7lj]

I always love Arkham Asylum the most because there wasn't exactly any invisible walls so you could basically kill your enemies. That is the only reason no Invisible Walls and I don't understand why they added them to the future Arkham Games.

[@zacharyrussell6851]

The one thing I really liked about red hood was his ability to do beat downs from range. After using the stub base you can just enter a beat down animation from across the arena

[@lucasmarinho6816]

O would put Red Hood in rock solid considering he has the fastest and coldest silent takedowns

[@WarFox7012]

21:05 “what do you mean you people?”

[@jakubpuchalski2583]

Bro you missed the 2 most important characters! What about gordon amd hush during their 3 minute playable time in knight! They have so much variety and unique moves😒😒😒 😂😂😂

[@mee091000]

Lol he did forget those two didn't he would have been funny to include them as a joke

[@markoberlton8026]

Trust bro Deathstroke is gonna be the first DLC character in Suicide Squad Kill the Justice League

[@vonhellus]

😉

[@hunterdumbhead7656]

9:17 he’s being added as (possibly free) dlc to the suicide squad game so he will be back, and not a joke.

[@gir8515]

Was looking for a comment like this when i heard him say that 😭

[@littlebadassgaming]

You forgot Bane, Joker, and their respective factions elites in multiplayer for Arkham Origins.

[@lhagwha]

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[@wyattthewyster1578]

Red hood was the most fun for me, the fact that he could just straight up shoot people made him incredibly effective

[@dawnlindsay2593]

Do not let bro cook again💀

[@dc7981]

Cope

[@PLUTOXGOAT]

FR bro just yapping 💀💀. most of this makes no sense, cause the fundamental mechanics are very similar for the majority of characters

[@MSTUD10S]

If put red hood in rock solid teir. Hes really fun

[@lhagwha]

U forget Bout a BANE and young JOKER (BAO ONLINE)

[@milkale]

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[@damusaetrum6742]

I wish bane was a playable character in origins other than online

[@lhagwha]

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[@PrMtHs666]

AC Robin was better…hoodie up + smoke pellets. They should have gave him the grapple boost and dive bomb.

[@thecountofmovies6775]

We all know Jonkler is the best

[@Memu_]

Despite the side characters being fun they still aren't as fun as Man

[@Justafella523]

It would've been so cool if they actually let Azrael use his sword.

[@snick2011]

I like the Red Hood Arkham episode, sure the enemies were put there with him in mind and yes the combat is also made for him but in my defense the Arkham Knight suit just goes that hard

[@tessabakker662]

Jason was the f**kin' Arkham Knight, WHERE ARE HIS GADGETS?! Not even the smoke canisters he actually USES to escape an early confrontation with Batman (the one with the mutual choke-hold) made it in! Neither the red nor blue visors have any interesting HUD elements to match their flashy visual designs! Come ON, how sick would it have been if he could use his batclaw derivative to pull goons close to him so he could give their skulls a nice new dent with either his bulky AK arm guards or whatever armor he's hiding under his RH jacket? The guns are cool, but it's basically all he has! He plays super differently from all the others, and he STILL manages to feel same-y after a while.

[@leonardvole9760]

12:57 well, if there were any character that should be able to walk a tight-rope, it’d be the acrobatic-turned-superhero, Dick Grayson and his various aliases, but I agree that Catwoman not being able to use the tightrope is bullshit. 😅

[@n64cartridge69]

You forgot to mention that the red hood has the quickest silent takedown in the franchise

[@diogoteixeira4950]

It gets even worse when you take into account that in the comics Azrael has super strenght and uses blades and other deadly weaponry. Like, god damnit, this guy is super human, make him FEEL super human

[@ironmetal3779]

Batgirl is meant to be basic, her story takes place before Arkham Asylum.

[@CheshireCatMystic]

What about Bane in Arkham Origins multiplayer mode?

[@lhagwha]

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[@mercernova5347]

It would’ve been sick if Nightwing had the remote claw from Origins. He could’ve stolen it from the bat cave when he and Batman had their falling out and this would be how Dick and Deathstroke meet, Slade tried to get his remote claw back but failed.

[@LoaderVideos22]

Red hood = left trigger make gun go boom boom

[@kushasaurus5258]

No inclusion of Robin, Joker and Bane from the online MP of Origins?

[@lhagwha]

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[@StudMacher78]

We all know the REAL reason why this man put Catwoman at the top of the list

[@BROWNBRANCH]

Personally, I think Red Hood would be much more fun if they improved his shooting animation, the firing animation, and the firing sound effect. The whole time it didnt feel like I was actually "shooting" a gun, it never had the "oomph" I expected Red Hood to have. I honestly first thought that he was using rubber bullets and was knocking everyone out, that's how little of an impact the gun felt like it had.

[@Espurr.8]

Red hood is my favorite character to play as

[@snnnaaaaaakeeeee4470]

Same he is literally the biggest game breaker of them all

[@TenthSgtSnipes]

It’s a shame the Arkham origins multiplayer characters aren’t playable outside that mode. Bane, Joker and Robin from that game would be interesting

[@lhagwha]

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[@Pyromaniax]

How about Robin/Joker/Bane in Origins mp?

[@lhagwha]

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[@Eshtian]

Batgirls grate takedowns are loud but apply a fear takedown effect, allowing her to takedown an enemy in front of other enemies. There are times where you'll still be punished, but there's a fine line, I just forgot where that line is since it has been a while.

[@Redfluxcapacitor]

10:02 THE REMOTE CLAW IS HIS REMEMBER

[@Anakinvoorhees]

Azrael needs no cape. HE FLIES WITH THE POWER IF GOD.

[@andreaspavlides7560]

Azrael could've been unique if he had the sword, wounding targets to neutralize them

[@nightblockprimecraft9284]

Do you think you could write new DLC for Arkham games? Story DLC for Origins, Asylum and City and even perhaps a story focused on the events before or after Asylum

[@HumanDevilTV]

I gotta say, I'd put Red Hood in rock solid. I love his simplified combat, as it's fitting for the character. I actually love doing stealth with him, as Red Hood encourages you do get loud in takedowns, scare opponents and make them actively sweep the area for you while you pick them off one by one. Like, they can hear you, but if they see you, it's too late for them.

[@VideoEssayWatcher5484]

You can literally do this with any character using a knock out smash, that’s why the knockout smash is there

[@HumanDevilTV]

@@VideoEssayWatcher5484 Yeah, but Red Hood has guns xD

[@Fordragon602]

ah man wish u could put origins online playable bane thugs bane itself joker itself and joker gang

[@lhagwha]

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[@RYUHAYABUSA5012]

I NEVER KNEW AZRAEL COULD FLY WITH THAT THIN FUCKING CAPE LMAOOOO THATS FUCKIN HILARIOUS

[@kittylemeu1373]

Catwoman and harley can definitely go on tight ropes

[@doogalfan0017]

Deathstroke literally has a pistol and he never uses it. Is he stupid?

[@LerchStudios]

deathstroke could have been so damn cool. imagine if he had a sword and it was smth like god of war. that wouldve been sick.

[@UltimateLimitless678]

At least he can regenerate his health and plus he can rip the vent with one button, whereas batman you have to repeatedly mash the button.

[@MILDMONSTER1234]

The Deadpool game was a better representation of Deathstroke then Arkham Origins

[@SarastistheSerpent]

This was a great ranking IMO. I have a few minor disagreements, but otherwise its very close to how I would rank all the characters as well