GTA 5 - Franklin Conversations with Lamar After Trevor & Michael's Death (Missable Conversations)

[@brodeliasIII134]

It's pretty interesting how Frank talks about killing Trevor like it had to be done, but he talks about killing Micheal like Micheal wronged him somehow.

[@jakestan1185]

I mean it’s the fib or meeryweather which one would you listen to

[@Zay0010]

@@jakestan1185 ill listen to merryweather, they'll come 7 cars deep to your crib and won't stop til everybody dead😭😭😭😭

[@morgan0__o]

it feels like if he didn't delude himself about why he killed Michael, he'd go off the deep end...

[@TrolledByKBR]

Michael kinda did wrong him tho if he hadn’t work or helped Michael he wouldn’t be involved with the fib bs and merry weather and Trevor and also the Chinese so in a way frank got a point

[@mechy3834]

@@TrolledByKBR Well, F did want the money, and with big money comes big responsibility.

[@Sweet-wc2lj]

I always found it funny that the characters could be having the most serious conversation, but they'll be in something like a scooter or a golf cart lol

[@ziel9474]

Killing either of the characters makes franklin delusional and he says things like he was the victim in order to cope with the decision he made

[@eyeballzplays1060]

That’s why killing Michael or Trevor doesn’t match Franklin’s character. He doesn’t want to divide others. And Franklin is loyal

[@Poe4]

I love how Lamar slowly starts to get a lil worried about his safety with Franklin

[@bintangjohnson2803]

You can hear the evilness and villainous vibe in Franklin's voice in that conversation, Franklin clearly becomes the villain after ending B.

[@SLIVER-MACE]

​@@bintangjohnson2803he always a bad guy

[@bintangjohnson2803]

@@SLIVER-MACE I know, but ending B made it clearer that Franklin is now the villain after that.

[@kirtigupta3379]

​@@bintangjohnson2803he doesn't even try to justify himself at that point

[@bintangjohnson2803]

@@kirtigupta3379 and just straight up threatens Lamar

[@bratzillla]

14:42 made me smile. its so interesting and wholesome how fleshed out their relationship is, whenever the characters chuckle mid-convo it feels like an ACTUAL convo, and you can hear the voice actors smiling when the character is supposed to be smiling in the conversation, just like how lamar smiles whenever he's teasing trevor or like at 14:44 lol. just the dialogue is so satisfying. i love their dynamic so much

[@morten8823]

The wierdest thing happened when I played GTA 5 yesterday. Franklin and Lamar was hanging out and Lamar started talking about how Franklin killed Michael, even though I have all the protagonists alive.

[@termicrafteron2794]

9:11 F really said "You keep saying I have no bitches, but where are yours!?"

[@Supperdude9]

This is why I couldn't bring myself to have Franklin kill Trevor or Micheal. It's just.... Franklin starts justifying it. Trevor... okay, dude was legit crazy and a literal menace to society - dude straight up killed the manager of the Vanilla Unicorn for no other reason than to take it for himself. Micheal... it's just sad. It was because of Micheal that Franklin even had his shot out of the hood. Through his connections. Now, a home up in the hills, a pool, business opportunities. And then... poof. "I had to do it." I couldn't do that to these characters. I just couldn't. And Lamar was right - in that situation, Franklin shows that he's easily manipulated. Option C is the only way to go to save not only Trevor or Micheal, but to save Franklin too.

[@bronxishomenomatterwhereig3149]

Option C was amazing. Because it was a pivotal moment for Franklin. For the first time, he took control of his life. He wasn't seeking guidance or following orders. He made his own call and plan to see it through.

[@chris_player2995]

6:00 this conversation got extreme quick 15:12

[@KniGhTKrawLeR9]

When you kill Michael or Trevor, Franklin and Lamar turn into Michael and Trevor: The cold opportunist willing to do anything to get big and leave the crime life behind and the scrupleless psychopath with abandonment issues who can see no other way for themself but the crime life. The bickering is way too similar. The cycle continues.

[@KniGhTKrawLeR9]

Also, you can see in the last convo how inspired Lamar is by Trevor and his "TP" business names, since he later calls his own business "LD Organics" in The Contract.

[@Memmitov12]

9:39 uncle ruckus

[@kionisua8564]

22:30 has Lamar ever met Michael? Idk if you can hang out with all of them together but i can't recall them ever seeing one another. How weird but i guess i miss alot of details in this game

[@morgan0__o]

he never met Michael, he can't even hang out with him

[@twinberwolves4231]

Technically Lamar has met Michael he just doesn't know that's Michael and the two are never properly introduced, like in the mission "Lamar Down" He asks if they’ll get a proper introduction.

[@TheSultan1470]

Actually, they do speak in The Third Way. They exchange one line each, I forgot what they were.

[@Journey_to_who_knows]

What would happen if you get the 4 of them in one place I wonder

[@twinberwolves4231]

They sorta met/encountered each other in the "Franklin and Lamar" mission only they didn't know each other. Kinda like how Lamar interacts with Jimmy, but again they do not know each. Unlike Lamar though, Franklin encounters them again and they develop a relationship.

[@That-one-man-some-say-sing5808]

Why is no mentioning the venom and assertiveness in Franklin's voice here: 29:25

[@tmoneyofficial1]

Fr 😂

[@nameynamename3758]

it's been 2 minutes and the n-word has been said more times than in a klan parade

[@Raphie009]

Nigga ain't the n-word, nigga.

[@nameynamename3758]

@@Raphie009 good to know, i am white and shall use it in my everyday life now and no issues shall befall me

[@haxlwillow1133]

Why does Franklin sound like uncle Ruckus in some parts when he's drunk?🤣

[@gaelandrade9618]

10:08 Franklin bike shrank 17:58 shoes in the back of the truck

[@Khvicha.kvaradonut77]

That wasn’t franks bike

[@apostateunion]

😂😂😂

[@amirmohammad6734]

15:50 “Crazy homie makes no money gets his ass killed. Instant classic” 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@crankymcgee]

17:36 maybe Rockstar shouldn’t have Lamar use that phrase if they can’t even spell it right in the subtitles lmao

[@its9301]

Lamar’s voice actor apparently improvised many voice lines, so it makes sense sometimes rockstar couldn’t get his subtitles right

[@enqquerthahhgut1842]

Crazy how Lamar can’t even go anywhere and that people live like this too

[@kienphatong5534]

15:50 Where the camera crew at? 15:51 What camera crew?

[@bratzillla]

15:13 LAMAR IS TOO MUCH LLMAO I SEE WHY HE AND TREVOR GET ALONG SO WELL

[@IzukuMidoriya-ly8hh]

Franklin and Lamar are young gangster versions of Michael and Trevor

[@ajay7797]

29:02 this is a very real statement by Lamar

[@younii1696]

I counted 211 N-Words in this video, probably i missed some, but god dayum....

[@FlashThompsin00]

Can Trevor still hang out with Lamar after you pick B

[@Nooby574t13]

Well the game does the label Trevor as dead when you pick B so so technically yes

[@apostateunion]

No, according to the Fandom.

[@NGC-8931]

15:16 , 17:33 , 20:29 , 22:48 , 29:15 , 29:21 , 30:09 , 30:25

[@panam4redd]

why are these comments so offended about black people using their word?

[@PhoenixDawnX77]

Because they can't say it to us, or where we can hear it. The right wing klansmen and women coming out of them.

[@cdtv3602]

0:20 when lamar said FAMILIES FOR LIFE it reminded me of the graffiti FAM4LIFE in GTA SA

[@koleszgdanska7149]

In summary. Franklin is the main character, Trevor is a tortured soul, Michael is a snake overrated by snakes

[@ignaelite2001]

Never made sense to kill either of them. They both fw Franklin heavy

[@Hexstared]

16:02 sound like a Dhar Mann title

[@jarodstein5902]

The game is so depressing if you kill either Michael or Trevor

[@Noahjames27]

God danm franklin is my favorite person in all of rockstar games maybe other than John and Arthur tho

[@CyberRaze11]

Lamar and Trevor was the best part about gta 5 besides the heists the other shit I’m cool on that

[@JawadMohamed-k8o]

Sometimes I can't help but say that Lamar doesn't like it when Franklin kills Trevor. Lamar will feel really angry because Franklin killed him.

[@JawadMohamed-k8o]

Also if Franklin Kelton thought about killing Michael Lamar would be sad and stop talking to Franklin then Lamar would talk to Franklin and look for someone else. This is what happens to kill Michael.

[@fraawid]

Setelah misi Franklin and lamar, gak ada opsi hangout di telepon

[@farhan_alfirman]

15:39

[@JustinSalim13]

Selanjutnya bikin conversation antara Franklin Lamar sm Trevor bang

[@AHMED.SHORT10]

Look man

[@mollyanderson657]

16:25 Yeah, Lamar just STFU.

[@taylorslug7604]

25:40

[@pepsisavedtheworld9125]

can anyone count how many times they said the n word?

[@CosmosGoofyChannel]

23:21

[@xscythe67]

Drink every time they say it

[@squarebodycasewademckenney6190]

Take a shot everry time frank or Lamar says the N word

[@KniGhTKrawLeR9]

That's alcohol poisoning with extra steps.

[@sida.artyom]

Thanks for the roast

[@sonicjamal230]

Crazy

[@thickbear6562]

Never have I ever heard the n-word be used so many times in one conversation (all of them)

[@chrisburgos9795]

12:33

[@farhan_alfirman]

0:36

[@uglygxd8603]

Damn, I want to see that Tracey's video man 👀

[@000Acid]

where the n word counter?

[@destroyermcw626]

Ugh thank you but I dunno

[@Эмир-г2э]

2 much n word brooo.......

[@SaipraveenSeva]

Franklin killing Trevor and Michael is so out of character..!!

[@faridagasiyev7042]

29:22 Franklin sounds really cold here. Whem he kills Trevor, he says it had to be done, but shows that he hates it. But with Michael , he talks about it like Michael really did something wrong, betrayed him or something

[@TheRuggedEchinda]

Ending B basically turned Franklin into another version of Michael at his worst

[@thetreyceratops]

Maybe he’s pissed at what Michael did to his crew? Not sure since he did the same thing here

[@faridagasiyev7042]

@@thetreyceratops i don't think so, because he did the same thing and Michael taught him many things. You can see he tries to justify his betrayal, but he knows he did something terrible

[@googleisevil8958]

@@TheRuggedEchinda I'd argue Franklin turns into Michael in both endings. Ending A: he's exactly like Michael which is why Michael stops talking to him. Michael HATES himself and Franklin acting just like him probably made him lowkey hate him. He now felt what Trevor felt when Brad was killed. Ending B: He definitely gets more like Michael mentally. I think the reason why he's so angry in B is because he might very well regret having to kill Michael. Remember, you could have tried to save Michael only for him to headbutt you in a fit of rage and kill himself. Either way, Franklin becomes the new Michael. Repeating a cycle that might end up with Lamar getting killed in the future or him becoming the new Trevor.

[@AhmadSallakh]

He had to convince himself that (Michael or trevor) were assholes when he chose to clip one of them ,, that’s smart ,, not encouraging it ,, but if you really took a choice you are going to kill your pro friend and decided you’re doing it and it’s really really risky ,, you don’t one to regret it during the process or be emotional cuz one dumb move and you’re done he is not going to let you live either,, as well as not regreting it later on and move on .because if you remember franklin told micheal before he died that he was micheal’s bitch and that micheal treated him like that ,, and micheal told him: you keep telling yourself that , it’s not going to make you feel better . Or some shit like that .

[@blakebutler4025]

28:46

[@DomoKang]

It’s crazy how much detailed dialogue was recorded for this, first time playing through I hardly paid attention to it (i turned 11 in 2013)

[@ac-jj1zz]

right? i didn't even speak English properly back there and sure as hell you ain't going to be reading subtitles

[@destroyermcw626]

I was 10

[@bossfire-fly3359]

I was 6

[@DatAnimalBlundetto]

@@destroyermcw62603 babies

[@RyanTheDark]

The sad thing is about capping Michael, I think Franklin would have eventually capped Lamar because he was starting to become traitorous and was shrugging off the death of one of his homies. Knowing him, he would have probably went after Trevor as well. He became an ultimate snake and a Busta. After killing Trevor, Lamar probably was disgusted and probably started growing apart from Franklin since he had liked Trevor. He still became a Busta and the true protege of Michael.

[@mechy3834]

Now when thinking about things like these, F becomes my least fav character. He had really changed for the bad. Just like Michael tried to get Trevor killed, F would probably do the same for Lamar.

[@romanbellic6048]

@@mechy3834 Only if u choose the bad endings, if you choose the third way he is agrubally the best character

[@mechy3834]

@@romanbellic6048 Yh but when you think about how the story progressed without the player choosing anything

[@trevorphilips9065]

@@mechy3834 Well the Online DLC proves that ending c is canon so its fair to say Franklin is the most humble GTA protagonist

[@justsomeguy747]

If Franklin kills Trevor I don’t think he’s as bad as Michael. He shows genuine remorse and tells Trevor the truth in his face. He doesn’t lie like Michael did to Trevor and others. However, the major contrast is when he betrays Michael. In that scenario, he’s not like Michael either, but far worse. He lies about what he did, becomes a greedy traitor, and shows his possible extremely cold nature.

[@adambula5545]

23:21 get out of my head

[@tmoney3298]

Damn Franklin feels more bad for killing Trevor than Michael

[@Aerialyn]

I mean, when you think about it, he would've really had to come up with some deep internal reason for killing Michael instead of Trevor. To the point where I just feel as though it would've numbed him. I mean, he literally calls Lamar after killing Michael because he knows, he doesn't have Michael anymore, and he won't have Trevor when he finds out what happened. He started out only having Lamar, and now he's ending it only having Lamar, just with similar reasoning as Michael at his worst.

[@skarfacemendoza6741]

Micheal was a snitch turned on all his homies trevor real asf

[@teenagecarlover1567]

@@skarfacemendoza6741and he also hid the truth about Brad from Trevor for a decade. Bury The Hatchet raised lots of red flags, as Michael became a world-class fantasist.

[@bigchuks2240]

I have always felt like the ending where Franklin saves everybody was the ultimate character ark of 5 he finally did his own thing instead of what somebody told him to Because when you think about it Michael didn’t change his ways his family just learn to accept it and Trevor is still bat shit insane he just got over his anger towards Michael

[@trevorphilips9065]

It also proves Simeon wrong "No loyalty no integrity you should have taken the bullet." And in the end he decides to save the team and do the impossible

[@obeseperson]

@Rahul Roy Verma sounds like he won even more than the rest of the characters then

[@bigchuks2240]

@@rahulroyverma8432 You can change as a person without completely changing every aspect of your personality I don’t understand how his thinking or mentality would change just because he decided to save his friends he still understands that his world is shit because he’s a criminal who lives every day just to steal money and try not to die he’s purposely throwing himself into the cycle of greed death and destruction just because you can make a lot of money doing it he just wants his friends their with him because that’s what matters to him anyone else would have cut Lamar Loose a long time ago Franklin Kept him around because he’s a friend and you look out for those so they’ll do the same that’s a lesson Michael forgot and Trevor wanted him to learn.

[@Dan-ct5zl]

I'm surprised Franklin didn't beat the shit out of Lamar at least once lol.

[@daboy5256]

You ain’t ever had that friend before 😅

[@faridagasiyev7042]

Wei Cheng gets what he wanted after option A, Trevor's dead and now he can operate in Blaine country. So i don't think he will be a threat after ending A. Steve Haines leaves them alone, too, and gets Devin off their back. Merryweather lost its license for operations in USA, so Devin lost his influence and power, as Steve Hains says, "Devin still licks his wounds, because Merryweather lost its license, and he needs new friends now". Now Devin is only a rich bastard, he doesn't have any private army and power anymore. So in my opinion, killing Trevor is realistic. The only left threat is Stretch, but he is just a gangster, not as powerful, as other antagonists. İ am sure Franklin, Lamar and The Families can clap Stretch after the ending.

[@ziel9474]

you forgot to mention franklin becomes delusional

[@faridagasiyev7042]

@@ziel9474 delusional? What do you mean?

[@GTA-RDRverse2.0]

After option B: Trevor continues to operate Blaine Country and Wei Cheng continues to be a threat to him. Devin Weston talks to Steve Haines' boss and asks him to leave Franklin alone. Stretch keeps trying to kill Lamar (Stretch would probably eventually kill Lamar in the reality where Franklin killed Michael or Trevor). Anyway, in ending B, Devin Weston and Steve Haines stop being threats, and Wei Cheng and Stretch are still active, so this ending doesn't make much sense to me. Wei Cheng wouldn't forget Trevor out of nowhere

[@fly_wild]

Actually there a call we’re Lamar is scared to go out because stretch is still alive

[@chris961k]

@@GTA-RDRverse2.0why does stretch wants to kill lamar

[@loquat3287]

YESSSS!!!!!! i predicted it in my head, i thought this was gonna be the next one but just normal conversations, i love your series, keeps me entertained! thank you and continue making awesome content!

[@zacharymorawski5824]

they said the n word 14 times in that first drunk sequence

[@Memmitov12]

15:11 funny asf

[@tmoneyofficial1]

Fr 😂😂

[@adelebullas3434]

Michael have a black heart because when you kill Trevor he text you and say we made the right choice to kill him then when we meet him he blame it on Franklin even tho Michael pushed Trevor’s car in the gas

[@adelebullas3434]

Ok maybe it was Franklins fault but he said we made the right choice and Trevor is actually a crazy man no one stay near him

[@adelebullas3434]

Yes I know they’re not real

[@faridagasiyev7042]

I still killed Trevor in my last playthrough, though i always chose ending c. He was too crazy and kept getting new enemies and problems for the trio, hurting and killing anyone he wants for no real reason. The most realistic ending in my opinion

[@Topshelfgamer]

28:43 coldest line I’ve ever heard Frank say

[@varunixs]

All These dialogues is Just The Rockstar’s Way Of Telling us that you made the wrong Choices

[@tironmurray1998]

What if Franklin told Lamar he wants him and Lamar to be a Grove Street Gangster instead of Forum Gangster

[@Cahnin]

Cuz Grove Street in GTA 5 is ran by Ballas, old Grove Street Families likely either got ran out or popped after CJ got successful and moved out of the hood

[@leoraidiant_yt2267]

the n word count is unreal

[@thecoolannishatk.]

Why is lamar so funny

[@faridagasiyev7042]

9:45 beyaaetch

[@DaDogDefender]

I love the part when they said the n word

[@kionisua8564]

23:19 not matter where i go can't escape it 🥺

[@morgan0__o]

AMOG US

[@pingpongstuff88727]

23:21

[@mwwwwwwwwww]

9:46 byaitch

[@strongcapybara5646]

29:24 “then don’t f with me” he says that like he WOULD kill Lamar if he messed with him, that’s lowkey scary coming from franklin, even Lamar admits it a bit later on that he has it in him to smoke lamar

[@matias_8823]

“50% of the time you comin up, and 50% of the time you comin down” is so funny

[@alazaythegamer6636]

23:02 it makes sense Michael, Trevor and Franklin know how to f**k s**t up and piss people off especially Trevor he’s better at that kind of thing but yeah

[@jamburga321]

Next time do franklin hangs out with lamar after saving trevor and michael (Option C)

[@bartrolome2613]

Wow I’m Early for once

[@Lisa-z6p]

0:02 wanna hang out man

[@Gun_Metal_Grey]

N word: The Video

[@tofuchaeng06]

18:32 does anybody noticed that body there?

[@redeyetrey4763]

Crazy how Stretch is voiced by Hassan Johnson aka Wee-Bey from The Wire

[@udinsaburo4395]

Pertama

[@fushygvro6980]

I WAS HANGING OUT WITH LAMAR ON XBOX

[@prajwaljayaraj5887]

Can't believe I'm THIS early

[@sonicjamal230]

Truly crazy

[@red_chicken_not_redchicken1800]

Damn i kinda early

[@ErnestRD377]

Bang gw mau kasih saran nih, tolong kalo bisa subtitlenya di ganti ke bahasa Indonesia, biar orang indo juga pada tau apa yg mereka Cha GTA katakan... Perasaan GTA 5 punya fitur buat ganti subtitle bahasa, salah satunya Indonesia

[@jeremyargha9086]

And what about the rest of the world who doesn't speak Indonesia?

[@ErnestRD377]

@@jeremyargha9086 But those who understand English can still understand what the GTA characters say, while we Indonesians don't understand English

[@nikobellic9274]

Halo gta series

[@JR-zb8ck]

Let's go bowling

[@kritikusmim9519]

Let's go bowling

[@roemerjonker284]

Thanks

[@mer_meh]

Lamar would have been a better protagonist

[@M0D776]

iirc Lamar was going to be playable but it then got scrapped

[@statusxoone7039]

But now you can play as him online After completing Dr dre storylines

[@kangalli5890]

14:52 Rockstar did an amazing job including Lamar in GTA V. That convo was funny as hell😂

[@majinnazir9983]

14:11 "Ex-motherfuckin-xactly" 🤣🤣🤣

[@OtherBarry4908]

10:03 SJWs in the nutshell