Why Are More Games Being Released In An Unfinished State?

No video game is perfect, but every so often we get a game in our hands that feels unfinished and messy. How does this happen? Let's talk.
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[@no_4259]

Cause people pay for unfinished games, no need to finish them 😑

[@HarryPotter-qj4np]

Sergio González Torres "Pre-Order "

[@leounknown7316]

Agreed and once they get paid the either move on to something else ,stop or do less frequent updates, or in rare cases actullay finish the game but by then mostly everyone has moved on

[@scab3045]

Sergio González Torres that's true. Just look at Day Z. 5 years in ALPHA. Not even Beta...

[@dropkickpherby6994]

Bingo

[@bradhaines3142]

i wish you were wrong. on the bright side at least half the games ive bought are game of the year editions so those are complete games, takes a year or 2 of painful waiting to get those though

[@PaleGhost69]

Remember when companies would pay a person to beta test games as a job? Now its the customer paying the company to have that honour.

[@dafff08]

and the game might never gets finished if the sales turn out to not be as good as they expected.

[@iliketurtles8918]

Honestly, with how detailed and good some games are, I really don't mind that system. Don't crucify me, but to get an earlier release on something like GTA6, I would pay $60 and wait for update patches. Games haven't increased in price that much for the amount that we can get out of them. I remember as a kid going to buy Mario RPG on SNES at Toys R Us and turning right back around without it because it was like $40. Possibly $50. 10/20 bucks more for the kind of things coming out as of late, is fair in my opinion.

[@Trisoz]

Or when they used to release demos but they realized sales were lower with demos. And now they just use hype to sell pre orders

[@deadphenome2548]

I mean when they pay someone, that person is obliged to make a report on the report he sees as opposed to you that buy an early access game where you don't need to do this. Also when they hire testers it's because they want to test the game without the public knowing the existence of the game.

[@yskuzi]

PaleGhost69 still do that have been for years time lines get shorter but still happens

[@user-ol2mr4bx7c]

this topic is more relevant now than ever lol

[@tranquility2331]

man, after the release of the gta trilogy and vanguard, i came looking for this video

[@wiseguyeclipsa7591]

@@tranquility2331 Gta trilogy is probably one of the games that are more unfinished

[@rengoku2195]

Watching this after seeing Battlefield 2042.

[@DeerestAshe]

That quote from Miyamoto is the reason I never complain about delays

[@caliklepto1316]

It just blows my mind that the boss thinks selling an unfinished buggy mess, is better then delaying it for another few months..

[@זהסודי-ה7מ]

It's been shown to be more profitable, so I guess that's why

[@ThePowerOfOneThePowerOfTwo]

Honestly, thank you very much for making the distinction between the dev teams and the decision makers. The devs do not hold ALL of the keys for development unless they are independent. We put a lot of blame on dev teams when they're working as hard as they can and dealing with flak from incompetent publishers and leadership.

[@elayness1749]

Look at Zelda: Breath of the Wild. They delayed that game over, and over. Yet, it won many awards and even title of Game of the Year. Worth the wait? Damn right.

[@CrazyPanda688]

I despise the gaming industry so much that I’m considering selling my console because there are so few games now that I find engaging because most of them are half finished or full of micro transactions

[@ZombieZlayer99]

Sam Kent nintendo switch, there you go

[@PasscodeAdvance]

Get a switch. Best console in history. Better if it had a better build quality and pascal tegra x2

[@QurenTheShield]

@@PasscodeAdvance Excuse me. Why do you say that? I was thinking about buying one?

[@theteamrpmgfs3901]

How about ps now or xbox

[@FlexicanMayor]

Relatable, thank god I still have my ps1&2, xbox, xbox 360, nds and others. I really miss the time without ridiculous amounts of DLCs and micro transactions.

[@roderickwilliams67]

Who's here after cyberpunk 2077

[@merccc1]

... It really depends. Some companies do it because it is actually needed and they do intend to do good by their customers, but there are always the bad apples that take advantage of these things and ruin it for the good ones. You should either avoid works in progress, or be a more educated buyer knowing the risk by researching who you are supporting. I have seen terribly obvious cash grabs make tons of sells which baffled me, and those with good backgrounds and reputation get nearly nothing... People do not research or make truly educated purchases anymore. They are sold by the flashiest things, and then go full hate and " Vs. the machine Mode" when they fuck up. They act first before thinking basically and blame everyone else for it. So I would say it's both some companies taking advantage of this, and the consumers being more sheep like/ignorant with their money. Not to mention the need for some to actually do this method to stay afloat as they try to finish them game.

[@SergeantQuackersThe2nd]

Its 1 Reason why I have so little interest with New Games nowadays. They tend to be incomplete or rushed and money grabbing. Which is why I prefer playing Old Games like Borderlands, Bulletstorm, Halo (Bungie Trilogy), Max Payne, etc... They are complete, barely rushed and fun due to the Quality and Quantity of Content. Even if there are problems, Patches and Mods are relatively easy to acquire. So yeah, sticking with Older Games.

[@mikemarks6136]

BuryTheDead even those examples were considered unfinished during their time alot of content was cut

[@Drstrange3000]

BuryTheDead We still have new games that have the old game polish. I'd say those games surpass them too. You just have to look. Most people ignore the hidden gems. Divinity Original Sin 2, Gravity Rush 2, Cuphead, Ori and the Blind Forest, Zelda BotW, and Nier Automata being great examples.

[@syloui]

I believe the market is just half and half between finished and unfinished games from large publishers. It's simple really, all you gotta do is look and see which publishers are more consistent with releasing unfinished games, and don't consider buying any of their games unless you know the development length of that game is significant (see the amount of time it took to make Witcher 3 or BotW as opposed to almost any assassin's creed game or most EA titles) that alone will tell you if a game might have been rushed. A little research can go a long way

[@SadisticSenpai61]

I don't do online only games. I don't want a temporary game and all online only games are, in the end, only temporary. I also prefer to wait at least a couple weeks for the initial wave of emergency patches to go through... and watch a few Let's Plays so I know whether or not I'll even like a game. Needless to say, I don't buy a lot of new games.

[@ion9460]

This video sums up why I have higher Hope's for Metro:Exodus. The idea that they're pushing back the deadline in order to give the devs time to work out the bugs and overall improve the game makes me appreciate them even more. The previous games were borderline masterpieces for the gen. I can wait to be amazed, but I can't take another let down. Thanks Metro devs.

[@mikec7174]

So relevant now in 2022. I'm so sick of this.

[@AurioDK]

People buy them anyway, that is the reason. If nobody bought games until they were properly reviewed it simply wouldn´t happen.

[@LilianTheNinkasi]

*cough* Final Fantasy XV *cough*

[@JoshuaNY93BX]

Comrade Sandwich I would agree but it has dlcs and patches but good example of a game that doesn't require dlcs to feel fulfilled

[@killavilla8373]

JoshuaNY93BX i was disappointed and im a big FF fan

[@christianblocker1782]

FFXV is my favorite game of all time tbh

[@JoshuaNY93BX]

Killa Villa u were, but in all honesty better than a completely unfinished crap game like destiny. Maybe it wasn't the game that was promised and yes it got linear towards end do to changing of original story and not enough time to finish, but if asked did I enjoy it, did I feel better off than most games that say they are finished but not. The answer is yes, the story is good enough to make me cry and I dont feel paywalled lol

[@LilianTheNinkasi]

JoshuaNY93BX I felt robbed because the gameplay isn't deep in the slightest the combat in the endgame is the same as the early game and controlling only Noctis is boring. The story isn't told well everything that would make us understand what the characters feel is locked away behind a DLC, a movie or a crappy anime on KZbin. It's a trash game that was unfinished at launch and I won't pay 150€ to have the complete edition when the second season pass will be out. This is a true shame of a selling policy and it shows the utmost disrespect for SE towards their early buyer. FFXV doesn't deserve the praise it gets, if only because that horrible sale policy

[@SirTrebor1]

If you had to pick one of the two options, what would you chose to try? 1.Beta version of the game. (the raw product before being polished and released to consumers) 2.Trial version of the game. (a part of the final game version to play with before you chose to buy or not)

[@kerensh4053]

It's just that everyone behind doing anything miss the very important steps of making a game good. People need to have a list to look at when creating content: -Idea -Talking about the idea (not taking every advise just the constructive ones) -Creating from scratch -Showing the Idea to close friends -mTHEN and only THEN start developing the game -Set a reasonable scheduled date which doesn't have to be 10 years but not even an year which is not enough imo -Come up with ideas that will make the game more profitable but keeps the game well balanced and really enjoyable -Make sure at least 90% of the game is complete before releasing -Patch the game to complete it as close to 100% within the first 2 months. This is my opinion as a non-game maker tho, so I might be wrong, but I think this way developers make a great game and gety paid really good for it, publishers make a lot of moneky out of the game itself and DLCs/Loot Boxes/whatever as long as it stays well balanced and gamers are happy to spend their money on the products and will close an eye or two over a few unfinished things if the game itself is good.

[@preflightdrip8672]

this is why i like insurgency sandstorm. They held back the console version until winter 2019 when pc came out in august because it was glitchy and they wanted to polish it. i respect that and the changes they have made are worth the wait.

[@thumpyloudfoot864]

Good thing 2020 didn't have any unfinished games released.....

[@AFT_05G]

Cyberpunk 2077

[@Bangk0kdanger0us]

I also people have a problem waiting for games to release. If a hype train begins it usually ends badly, I think if we don't hype games up we'll probably get a better experience, this would mean stopping pre orders as well doing this would force gaming companies to actually try to grab your attention

[@thesorrow4664]

Xbox One's Killer Instinct was the best model for an unfinished release, it was totally free at launch and added paid seasons or the options to pay for the full game and all updates were included.

[@TheMcal9909]

The real reason, is the business model. It has slowly changed over time from what i had when i was growing up. Game companies earned their money by selling games. To do this you had to make good complete games or straight out con people into buying your game it didnt matter how long people played your game aslong as you sold alot of copies. Now the business model has shifted due to the digital distribution times we live in too keeping players playing a game for longer, thus increasing potential to earn more from micro transactions. One easy way to keep people playing your game is to release a shell of a game and add to it over time (thats what DLC in most cases is). Keeping people on that treadmill. Its no longer as profitable to just release a good game and be done with it.

[@ViperStudiosAndy]

I remember Battlefield 4 being rushed out the door and being a mess and constantly crashing all because EA wanted to launch alongside the PS4 and XBOX One even though it was clearly not ready. It took them nearly 2 years to fix it and make it into a great game.

[@jordanrichardsonbjj4339]

*Cyberpunk 2077 has entered the chat*

[@emperormiguelgallazaiii6309]

@Uncle how’s your lumbago

[@Azaurus1]

expectation for graphics is rising faster than game development costs can fall, leading to lots of undesired corner cutting.

[@dorjedriftwood2731]

If a first impression can be overcome it’s not forever. First impressions count for a lot but plenty of people are capable of being open to things past their initial impressions.

[@Chancethestylist]

Does that thumbnail give anyone else chills

[@Dezbo]

No

[@jurandfantom]

true is (at least part of it): people who doing game should receive payment, many times we heard about developers who didn't saw payment by few MONTHS, so like GR said, sometimes beta-test/kickstarter or something is needed to keep money stream (for payments). Second thing: currently games are way more complex than 5-10 years ago. Pipelines are changed, technology too. Obviously we should expect that one platform game than multi-platform title (unless they find extra experience people do do that) but that is impossible when point one money are not on table. So in that situation or they publish unfinished/polish game for way bigger audience and then patch it or create total or other platform delay - if game isn't good enought, then there will be not money for further work third: game publishers like GR said have expectations, they counted how much money they can put on table and still earn $. But did you know that most of money (around 50-70%) goes for commercials and PR ? yep, sometimes most of money are going to promote game, not create it. Nobody wan't pay to business. About point nr.2 - alpha, beta, milestones etc need to be done before or in x period of time, because game studio is like kitchen. You order multiple thing on plate, but to create it in kitchen, people need something what other people done. So if one dev group have delay, then everybody need wait. No game char. model? then we can;t texture them. No localisation/environment model finished? then light guy can't work to create correct light setup, collision can't be verify, no way to finish cinematic etc etc etc. corners cut everywhere Publishers create that situation by them-self and inspiration have been free market where other just wait to take possible income for themself. Lower price, better title, new engines (untested enough) - everything to make us buy their game not other company. We vote by wallets? sort of, but thing about yourself like number not customer. Number that was already counted years before you stand next to game in box or before you (maybe yes maybe no) click that "pay now" button. Please remember, developers are human with families, lives and needs (like food), they done everything what they can in that moment when they were able to do something. Trust me, most of "us" (i want work in that industry) love or at least want do stuff, but creativity and attention to details and work can't connect unless money are not important (from payment point of view)

[@MikusDad39]

Here's a crazy idea: how about letting the people actually MAKING THE GAME set the timeframe for when it can be completely finished? They would know better than anyone how long it takes to make a game, after all. If it's a bad time for release just push it back more, which gives devs and beta testers more time for fine-tuning.

[@bucelliLeo]

Forgive me if someone else has said this (didn't find such a comment) but are there really more unfinished games these days? I remember when I was a kid and we didn't have all this access to the internet, and our only news about how good a game was going to be was what the magazines printed and the expectations we had from a prequel, if applicable. Then eventually there were demos, but those sometimes just so happened to be the best and most bug-free section of the game. But even so, I played many games that were great if you could look past the bugs. The difference I see nowadays is only expectations. Back in the day, if a game released in a terrible state, it most likely would stay in that state (except for some games on PC) and it was just a reality that had to be accepted. But most of us probably don't always buy games right when they come out at full price but wait until they are the price we would pay for them or at least until we know that they are quality games. With patches, that means that we usually play some pretty well ironed-out games. So when we pour our cash into a game we are really excited about at full price, then of course we are disappointed that it doesn't seem to hold up to the standards we have come to expect. So we have only become more critical if you ask me. Of course, paying $20 for some tiny expansion or armor sets that should have been in the game is some serious bullshit. That has changed.

[@grimreaper63151]

7:59 my favorite new Vegas glitch is where you take the lazer detonator and glitch it to fire infinite mini-nukes

[@Zinkolo]

I would strongly disagree that games are never finished. A game can definitely be finished with glitches being patched and it being completed to a devs satisfaction.

[@damionhendricks26]

if they patch it because of bugs then its obvously not to the devs satisfaction, but i get what youre saying

[@KerrBox92]

the 8th gen taught me that buying games day 1 is one of the stupidest things you can do, paying the most for a game when it's in it's worst state rather than paying less for the complete edition in a few months

[@vurhn2009]

The thumbnail sums up to any early access games I played before

[@Zawar2003]

It is nothing less than a miracle that a thing like a game can even exist. look at how many people make it happen. and it shows, that humanity together can achieve anything. Imagine a world where all humans are helping each. we might even make our own universe inside a virtual reality

[@dasneuge9704]

I read an article many years ago talking about Lucas arts. They brought a movie director in to help set the pace for release dates of games. The movie director and game dev. Have two different mindsets to release dates to the movie director the game has to be done on this date because that's how movies are. While gaming dev. Believe it's ok to go past the release date a bit just to make sure the game was finished. And this caused a lot of problems at Lucas arts to the point where a good chunk of game dev. Left and where I think this whole unfinished games started from

[@darthkeyara]

I feel like Recore would have been a better example to use instead of No Man's Sky. NMS was always meant to be a purely 100% exploration type of game, and when the dev realized that it still didn't meet consumer expectations, they went above and beyond to patch it into a game that was good. There was little/no plot on purpose in NMS, so comparing it to Witcher 3 doesn't really work. Recore, however, had a core mechanic of the game locked out by being DLC, and you couldn't actually complete the game without it. That right there is completely fucked up. Besides that, there's a huge difference between patches that fix bugs and glitches, and DLC that costs anywhere between $10-50 in order for the game to be and feel complete.

[@dyllankolinen]

I 100% understand microtransactions and unfinished games, since the prices of games haven't rose at all since it hit $60 and games are only getting larger and more expensive to make, just think you would need like 6-8 textures from an older game to meet the resolution of a modern game's textures, and thats not even going into how much larger/longer modern games are. So I don't mind paid DLC and cosmetic only microtransactions, its just when we start getting mobile game style Pay to win/skipping content stuff that starts making me angry. So word to all publishers which non of which are going to even care about; keep doing DLCs just make them worth what we're paying for them (Bungie I'm looking at you, Give us something other than reskins in Beyond Light).

[@miikkasipila]

Games nowadays rely heavily on marketing. When you have spent millions for marketing one year beforehand you just simply do not skip the release date. Doing this could lead to even poorer sales -> less money -> lay offs and possible bankruptcy. Planning couple years ahead is a really difficult task, yet it must be done in today's environment. Companies like EA or Ubisoft are very reliant on having their games marketed to have any sales. Planning for a marketing campaign might begin 3 years before the launch of the game. Delaying the game launch for even couple of months could reset a big part of the work done already, meaning the loss of tens of millions. So it's simply more practical to release the game unfinished than to move the launch. Also, you don't want to compete with another title for the attention. So you try to time the launch so there's no competitors. This is really a big problem. Look at Battleborn vs Overwatch. Having a bad time to launch a game can really destroy the work you've done during the past years. Companies like Blizzard are one of the few who can afford to make finished game and release it when it's done simply because of their status. They are trusted by the players unlike EA or Ubisoft. It's easy to be captain hindsight and say "they should've thought it before". But in the end this is the situation they're in and are forced to spend tons of money to overcome their reputation. Not saying Blizzard doesn't need to spend money on marketing, but they have a big advantage here. Also all the stores have some kind of approval process and before that it has to be approved by someone who paid for the project i.e. publisher or investor. You also need to have your game discs prepared and shipped in many cases weeks before the launch. So in many cases the released version has to be ready months before the official launch. It's not like the companies wouldn't like to have all ready by then. They simply are forced to spend a lot of time to finish the game after submitting the final version of the game to publishers etc. And trust me, they work long hours at this point. Organizing a project with tens or hundreds of members is a reeaaally hard. If one person makes a mistake it could push the whole project for months. Also, some mistakes made earlier in the process are not simply fixable later on. Or not in a reasonable budget or time frame anyway. Many cases these are something the developers know of, but simply can't afford to fix anymore. But in the end it's the customers who decide. If enough people stop buying unfinished games then companies stop making them. Or the ones who do will be cut out by the ones who figure out how market works. TL;DR - It's cheaper to release unfinished games than spend more time to finish them - Making games is hard - Stop buying unfinished games

[@jayceallen6530]

This only is becoming more prominent in current day and thats sad

[@SoLowKaspar]

Some times bugs is what makes the game worth playing. Like skyrim's space program or even fallout new Vegas bugs that adds a feel of silliness to the game. It gives us a reminder that its still a game and that developers who are people are not perfect

[@lyes6033]

easy fix : 1- wait for the game to be releases 2- watch revues 3- check wallet 4- deside never ever pre - order and don't buy in game currency that's how to live a good life is it weird that i'm starting a developer career and saying that ?

[@abnstill]

Everything Falcon mentions makes me appreciate the God of War series,especially the newest release, just that much more. They are always near flawless. The love and

[@facudlbarrera]

When Battlefront I came out a couple of years ago I really wanted to buy it but it lacked content which was then blocked behind paid DLC.... to me that was a total rip off so I decided not to buy it. Last year (2017) Battlefront II promised free DLC and I was cautiously optimistic, only to find then the loot box pay to win system. I didn’t buy the game, I waited until March of this year when they rearranged the system with no payed loot boxes and a good progression system (and let me say I actually like the game a lot and am happy with my purchase, but still I had to wait half a year for them to make it right). That is what everyone should do, inform themselves and wait enough time for the game to be good or skip it, only then games release standards will improve.

[@ajzebadua]

I have to be honest, I’m not impressed by Falcon’s assertion that all publishers are bad and ruining the industry. Yes, there are loads of problems with publishers as a whole and with individual publishers, but, the men and women that work at various publishers *do* know and understand game development and/or business. They do a lot of work that goes mostly unknown, overlooked, and end up bearing a lot of the blame for issues with games; regardless if the issues stem from the publisher’s involvement.

[@Doxxonblock2]

It’s bad because we are in a new generation and they are still unfinished

[@xRocketzFighterx]

It's because of people who kept on crying over games not coming out and crying over constant delays. I'd rather just wait longer for the game to come out and be great from the start. If the game is bad or requires a massive long af patch at the first day then I'll send that game back and just not bother. I don't have time to get delayed for hours over one game and even if I did patch the game I always keep on forgetting that game existed because of my other things in life and all I have is just another game collecting dust that I've never played... so that game just goes back to the store... Sadly can't get refunds because the seal has been broken. *sigh* I remember back when we had a 7 day money back rule.

[@markmeyer1076]

There is such thing as unfinished quality; which is not the same as unfinished story. A game in itself can be eternally unfinished as long as the players want the story continued, but neglecting quality matters, just as much as the story. Shadow of the Tomb Raider was a rushed game; I knew this the first hour in, and that is why I abandoned it after a few hours of game play. Glitches, errors, textures that are not loading, these matter, a lot. A good game needs to be fluid, cycling interesting content like a spool and entirely original from competing games and/ or it's own previous releases. Throwing a game out and expecting a good reception will not always work. M.

[@bluspectre2042]

I think that all the same arguments apply perfectly to Microsoft Edge. An early new "revolutionary" browser that had everyone saying it's trash because it was, but now that it's great it's too late; Everyone hates it.

[@VitaKet]

Pretty much nailed it. Money is the biggest reason, continuing development is very costly.

[@Drstrange3000]

There is a bigger focus on quantity than quality these days... We are getting less and less carefully crafted games and more of these super content heavy games that just throw things together without focusing on all the tiny details and polish. Back then had a lot of bad, unfinished looking games too, but they seemed to be from the really small developers or those quick shovelware looking games. I wish devs scaled back their games and focused on making a polished game. I love Nintendo for their polish in some of their games and though Detroit Become Human was really well done!

[@knightdragonslayer5833]

I believe things like demos should return and that a company should take its sweet time making a game because it could help the industry tremendously

[@lowellhouser7731]

Answer: because they can. The nature of the internet gives them the ability to update it in perpetuity ... except the game came from Double Fine you forget about patches after a few months, max. There are multiple AAA titles that will never be finished and sometimes not even playable. Early Access is even worse as you're paying the studio to not finish the game. Crowd funding is a crapshoot.

[@joseluisruiz3789]

Your thumb nail made me spit out my coffee through my nose lol! Thanks alot dude 😅

[@zaqqa]

5:03 is the reason the original trilogy special editions exist

[@adot704]

Video games companies should be more like Blizzard, they don't have a release date it just comes out when it's done

[@oliverpease6719]

Imagine E.A. pumping out a game that you have to pay for each button and function of the controller, and you have to pay 300 bucks to put on pixel on the screen in color

[@Red_Salmond]

Most Activision games are unfinished yet they make billions every dam year. They only finished 2 games rest never was finished nor was it intended to be so.

[@eldoctoroso]

If your work is to put 1s in a shelf and you miss two or three every ten thousand or so, no probs, you can "patch" the thing back... if you're missing one thousand of those ten thosuand, then we have a problem now.

[@josephmorrison2055]

I don't want my game content to be released in an episodic manner. I'm only here for a full experience from the start

[@jados5504]

If ocarina of time was released in 2018 the first three dungeons would be free with the rest as paid dlc slowly released over 5 years

[@CentreMetre]

When he explained from the person who said to sell unfinished games perspective I can see how cos it gives you a ‘taster’ of the game

[@lowfat_booger1929]

So basically they put it out unfinished because they're being rushed? Therefore they'd be rushed faster to put out a half assed game, if that's what they were aiming for...

[@masterknife8423]

Because developers and publishers have become too greedy and think that gamers would still pay tonnes of money even if the game is secretly not 100% finished

[@SkinInfection]

I’m sad they didn’t show the horse goofs for assassins creed

[@jarrodneuhaus6886]

I literally watched a review that gave a fully released game a 9/10 and then said it would be good in a year with updates...if I bought a book from amazon that I had to buy the last 5 chapters when they were done 6 months later then I would not buy the book. Why should video games be special. I'm fine with large scale DLCs and patching a few bugs but "service" model games or day one DLCs just don't get buys from me.

[@jonahmoore6437]

Why did you have to break my heart with Paragon footage from early access?

[@isaiahrose3202]

No man's sky feels empty, ik what you mean by it but it's not like space is suppose to be crowded

[@bradhaines3142]

i hate how theyve also killed the hard copy. sure you can buy it, but then that 20+gig download on top of the disc just removes the purpose of buying the disc

[@Reinhardt4444]

I miss the good old days of gaming.

[@luidag2078]

Make a video about campaigns and why no body really plays them and how less games have them

[@EnchantedSmellyWolf]

Blame none gaming company that funds them. They just want money. If they don't like them there's a point they will stop finding them or release it soon.

[@deanfromhungary]

If you want to buy a triple a game on its full price Than that would be around 100-120$, games costs Way more Than 20 yrs ago (has Way better design and content yet we dont want to pay more ) and about Witcher 3... it was made in an eastern europian country where developers are way cheaper Than in the western countries.

[@plum_pie6402]

i think if people just stopped using "early access" as an excuse for an unfinished game and only used it when truly relevant then all would be good

[@machtone1]

“Hellogames didn’t lie, they delayed the truth”

[@regiodeurse6513]

They needed the money to finish the game

[@ElvenRaptor]

This is why I don't game anymore. I will begin gaming again when I can buy a completed game and just play it with no further transactions. Until we get back to that point, video game companies are not getting a single fucking penny from me.

[@nex5691]

the reason why they release unfinished games is bc ppl believe that if u release an unfinished game you will get new content and new updates regularly while the devs are patching it up while most gamers believe that once a game gets delayed it will be polished however no new content, no new updates, and no new hype even if the game is so polished and brand new no one will play it coz the hype died down easily for example games like overwatch2, diablo immortal, diablo 4, and most likely halo infinite but for me personally rushed games are shit and delayed are better

[@nostradamusofgames5508]

company's should be sued for letting out unfinished games and lying to their customers.

[@berkkarsi]

We should boycot unfinished games. That will teach those greedy companies a lesson.

[@FingFantasticFox]

When us, the consumer, keeps buying these unfinished games without complaining much. Companies are going to continue making unfinished games.

[@tmikesecrist3]

if a game is on pc, I am more forgiving of release day bugs. as it is vary hard to test it on all the diffrent hardware and software configs that are possible, now on consols where the hard ware and software is pretty much standered for any given system its come on guys..

[@keres666]

The day one patch is not because the game isnt finished. Games go to cert 1-2 months before released and the game is locked down. Devs still fix bugs during that time. Testing goes on. So thats what the patch is... everything thats after the game is locked down for 1st party cert. Because devs cant change anything to a build once its off to cert...

[@challengerjakku1943]

Because they can get away with it nowadays. Back during the 6th generation and before that internet when it came to console gaming was very much in a primitive stage. Not everyone had access so they had no choice but to release quality and finished products. But from the introduction of the 7th generation onward they released features to the mainstream dlc, frequent updates, online play which all are great in concept but they used it to take the piss they used these tools to cut corners releasing shitty games for premium with the weightless promise of fixing the shit they spewed out with future updates. Tools that should of been used to increase longevity of games and give us overall greater content for our cash has been used to take advantage.

[@sacrelige1343]

Any developer: Coming Soon, and we get an unfinished game. CDProject Red: coming when it´s ready and hopefully we get a Cyberpunk 2077 that is closer to finished =)

[@leonardoeneria3100]

Ironic although it's year now and most developers and friends runs away with that amount of money, but they didn't!. I bow to their example No Man's Sky held up and delivered more than what promised and continues to give free DLC. Also see internet historian "The endgoodening of no man's sky".

[@CreationsVibration]

Yeah I stopped gaming for this exact reason coupled with microtransactions

[@TAndRDInSpace]

It's all about saving money as well as making money. Get the general public to beta test your full price unfinished game so you don't have to pay people to test your game. Fallout 76 prime example.

[@kinsabony3238]

Black flag shouldn’t have been shown it was an amazing game from release, a more fitting assassins creed example would be unity

[@epiclikemike8413]

I don't know if it's just me but I swear I can hear a baby crying between 8:33 - 9:05 that or I'm going mental.

[@bdraidian6280]

Simple answer.....people keep buying them..... as long as people buy unfinished products companies will keep selling unfinished products....want this shit to stop.....stop buying them..... Edit: and its not just unfinished games, microtransactions(i understand some microtransactions are needed...like free to play games and companies that give ALL dlc free they need to make their money back) and rushed buggy releases are just as bad as an unfinished game....

[@wolfpitvids6336]

...because consumers want more in shorter time what leads to computer generated content if we dont be cautious. Otherwise this human art ends into endless machine rubbish. Without emotion. I, Wolfpit, who produces the Wolfpit Games like The Lore of Canis is filled to the brim with my emotions and perspectives on the world. It is art. And it is not finished because my capacities are humanlike. I hope you understand that not any developer has the possibilities to put all its love into a project. Indie Developer - people like me - have the opportunity by using tools to do the same with games as the printer sprouted into more authors and people doing creative writing, just to enhance and enrichen the society with their contents and perspectives. Therefore my games are not that finished as I wished because the world and the ideas are still in evolution, to put it like that way. You have spotted many things which are applyable to any field or art. Thank you for this video!

[@xKasumo]

Sims 4 cost over $200 for all the expansions

[@FilmByTom]

I love gameranxs essays

[@davecarsley8773]

Haven't watched the video yet, but if you say ANYTHING other than _"because we, the consumers, accept it"_ , then you're wrong.

[@JCDenton2012Modder]

Why? Short answer... greed. Long answer, because there are a finite amount of gamers and the gaming industry is constantly looking for more angles to constantly mine money outside of the one-time purchase of their products from that finite amount of consumers. Selling a broke ass game at launch which requires a day-1 patch to actually work and then DLC to get the full experience plays into this economic model of mining more money from the limited consumer base. Whether or not that money is needed to make a profit from a product is irrelevant. It is the nature of corporations to never be content with current profit margins. They must always be making more or be deemed a failure.

[@ToonCraftAnimation]

Well put 👏

[@cambodianbreastmilk2980]

Because people will pay regardless then complain about the game being unfinished, the devs will release several updates to fix the games bugs,people will be then happy to pay for the dlc to devs announce, even though it should of been part of the game when it was purchased. Companies will keep doing this shit if people are willing to pay, worse is that it'll keep getting worse, soon they'll just sell you empty box and tell you to use your imagination,,, as consumers though we have the power and the only way these kind of things will stop is when we stop paying for unfinished products

[@nvstewart]

Haven't watched the vid but this is my theory. Easy Access. For years Easy Access has being a 'thing' and companies have realised that people will pay to play these buggy and unfinished games, and so that has allowed gaming companies to lower their efforts and released 'finished' games that are low quality and buggy.

[@AJKungFuu]

I dont think I've bought a full priced 60$ game in like legitimately 6 or 7 years. I always just wait till they go down to 30 dollars or lower.

[@AJKungFuu]

@TheUnDrunkPCBastard _ Nah. I find that incredibly immoral so I'll pass on that.

[@AriettaTheWild17]

AAA game? Wait for a sale. It’s a good strategy actually, by then you have the patch(es).

[@madeinuk68]

@TheUnDrunkPCBastard _ if we all did that,there wouldn't be a game or film industry. Also are you aware that it is also a pretty serious crime to buy and encourage piracy. You should be very careful about bragging about it online,you never know who might be reading your comments. Piracy also funds a lot of organised crime gangs,and it might one day come back to bite you in the ass.

[@alexkatsin4940]

Same here

[@nozenkyuzero]

@TheUnDrunkPCBastard _ yeah but its better to have a clean conscience to wait for it to sale, also it improves your patience which you need in your life

[@ISoloYouRelax]

The gaming community needs to refuse to buy unfinished games. Like seriously, if you went to the dentist for them to fix something and they only did half the work I don't think you're gonna pay them for it.

[@SK-jr8wi]

Let's make a union

[@SK-jr8wi]

@@bilbobaggins9451 you have successfully changed my mind