10 MOST DIFFICULT Games For NEW PLAYERS

[@izzieb]

Timestamps, if anyone wants them. 0:15 10- Escape from Tarkov 1:52 9 - Armored Core series 3:06 8 - DOTA 2 4:11 7 - Kerbal Space Program 4:58 6 - ARMA 3 5:53 5 - Cataclysm 6:56 4 - EVE Online 8:02 3 - Dwarf Fortress 9:18 2 - Aurora 10:49 1 - DCS World

[@DraigoDragon]

Thanks and I have not played any of them XD

[@MightyOwl_01]

thanks, it's really annoying how they don't timestamp their videos

[@thankachansmith692]

Ty

[@Numb_]

@@MightyOwl_01 its a way to force viewers to watch the video all the way through super annoying

[@papibibo47]

Thanks. I played dota 2, arma and dcs. Now I dont play any of them anymore lol

[@josephmclord]

When I saw Tarkov at number 10 I knew this list is going to be brutal. Some of the games in this list is actual work. I bet most of the jobs are easier than playing these games

[@JamesCook76131]

DCS is no joke, I play it in VR, learned the F/A 18, my wife was laughing when I was reading all the manuals for it. VTOL VR is much more fun and much easier learning curve, granted doesn’t have HOTAS support, which does suck.

[@lmarshall4933]

As a kerbal player, i think they’ve massively undersold the actual complexity of the game, especially when it comes to calculating manoeuvres manually, and understanding orbits,delta-v,and gravity influence, i used to think the hardest part was going to the farthest planets, but honestly making a geostationary satellite took about 200 hours alone

[@JamesCook76131]

@@lmarshall4933 I’ve never played, but if it’s like DCS in terms of what you have to understand, then it could easily be harder then it, as it’s real rocket science

[@lmarshall4933]

@@JamesCook76131 controls certainly can be in depth, and this might just be because ive played the game for 5 or so years, but i feel like tjeres a lot of automised mechanics (auto-stabilising, auto manoeuvre etc)so from my admittedly biased opinion i reckon DCS is wayyy more complex

[@dawnkeyballs4898]

@@lmarshall4933 I play both on VR DCS is more difficult than VTOL. It's not even close imo

[@Tommy-Bee]

I love how they get to a new entry and you're like "how are they going to top this for inaccessibility?" And then the next game is numerous degrees more difficult to even comprehend.

[@MrPaddy2010]

My father spent years learning the flight controls for just two types of aircraft from one release of MFS there were technical manuals and flight plans all over the place 😂 ❤

[@kivsa85]

There are online courses with paid tutors with real present and ex pilots, this thing is sick

[@keeperofdragon409]

Elite Dangerous is also a game that isn’t so new player friendly. It has a very steep learning curve and the controls if you’re on a controller is difficult, especially when you get into fire groups. And since you’re limited by the few buttons of the controller, you end up have a lot of fire groups, and switching between them can be a hassle.

[@jayebejer7431]

@trading paints I love my python

[@ZVIDSHAREPRODUCTIONS]

I found elite to be really simple star wars/atmospheric style flight. Pretty simple to get the hang of. Star citizen is a whole nother deal because space flight feels authentic and when you do enter an atmosphere you get more appropriate flight mechanics for that as well.

[@PsyTranceKaitia]

What mate? The controls on console is so intuitive.. i cant imagine playing it with KBM. Easy to learn, somewhat hard to master if you decide to go hard in PvP with FAO and correct loadouts. Fire groups aint hard to setup nor switch between unless you're a boomer used to being carried or mindless press single buttons, slow as a sloth.

[@joshuatucker2521]

Obviously haven't played Star Citizen.. lmao

[@keeperofdragon409]

@@joshuatucker2521 No, I haven’t, cause I can’t. I don’t have a PC capable of such game, and mostly play on Xbox.

[@odmcclintic]

I'd like to clarify how insurance works in Tarkov: It's not: If you die you get it back. It is: If you die and its insured AND no one loots it, you get it back.

[@TrashcanActual]

You'll also become familiar with insurance fraud and its many benefits! :)

[@FadedBlack3000]

Yea he did a bad job of describing it .And you don't just start on one end and extract on the other way more in depth .

[@KinginCanada]

Oh good grief what a silly thing to nitpick​@@FadedBlack3000

[@rodd9833]

Love how you guys put quality over quantity with these list, unlike another gaming channel which I won’t mention who shows the same games every week.

[@BigMobe]

I miss seeing new Armored Core games. You had to use almost every button very often which meant moments that you had release the thumbs sticks while firing to reach them without a special controller. The campaign was easy for all of them, it was the arena which became multiplayer where things got crazy. If a mech had an anime character emblem made from the rudimentary tools and shapes you knew they were coming for your soul.

[@b1oh1]

I haven't played them in years but seeing them on here made me miss them.

[@Tigger2406]

I love playing Arma 3. Even with hardcore Sim mods. I remember learning the huge amount of controls you have for every vehicle, soldier and weapon. One day I started playing missions with mods like ACE with advanced medic systems, TFAR and advanced movement. It was like learning everything again but was worth it ❤️

[@MinimalObzerver]

Elite:Dangerous should also make the list. Really steep learning curve, players and NPCs can interdict you and engage in combat without warning, players can go bankrupt if their ships get destroyed too many times without enough credits for insurance.

[@TheArborphiliac]

Don't Fly Without Rebuy!

[@primesushi]

Elite is pretty easy if someones guiding you but else it's easy. But then there's sc2...

[@godssicario2077]

Sekiro for me personally was absolutely nuts as a new player. It was my first from software game to experience and it was tough and the fights against Owl Father or Sword Saint were bloody brutal and caused many rage quits. It's a beautiful masterpiece but man , that is a tough game for new players with some really difficult bosses plus unlike Soulsborne or Elden ring , Sekiro doesn't have summons so everything has to be done solo. Worth playing though :)

[@gameranxTV]

👍🏼

[@Grapefruit5000]

I thought Sekiro took forever getting used to even as a Dark Souls player.

[@tylergarrett8066]

@@Grapefruit5000 I was just about to comment this. The first 5 hours felt like baby's first souls game all over again.

[@jc6492]

I had actually completed bloodborne 2-3 times and I actually just ended up giving up on sekiro after the genichiro fight 😅

[@Chourtaird1]

@@Grapefruit5000 The great thing about Sekiro is once you get the hang of it you can completely crush enemies/bosses that gave you huge problems earlier. In my fist playthrough it took me HOURS to beat the great ape boss. In my second about a year later I got him first try. And I was still prepared for taking hours once again.

[@lowpolymay]

Honestly you don't know how happy I feel everytime I hear "Hi folks, It's Falcon." Pure serotonin, another banger for sure.

[@NE0C]

A friend of mine is super in flight sims and always wanted to be become a pilot. His brother is a certified aircraft maintenance engineer, so it’s thing that runs in the family. He’s got a pretty beefy pc with like a flight stick controller and they both constantly run flights and spend hours flying different planes. Recently he was like “dude I gotta show you this new flight sim I’ve got” turns out it’s DCS world. He had me try out a fighter jet, take off, arm missiles, and take down other planes. He said he spent hours looking up tutorials and reading aircraft manuals just learn how to start the damn thing. But yeah it is definitely a must have if you’re super into flight simulation and are willing to put in a lot of work, it’s pretty fun!

[@TheSultan1470]

Nice!

[@D00M3R-SK8]

I bought Kerbal shortly after building my first ever rig in 2014. I refunded it almost immediately when I realised I didn't have a clue what I was doing :D Similarly I did the same with Arma 3. I only bought it for the "life" mod and then realised how difficult it was to even get a character registered... refunded that too. They were 2 of my first games I bought, and I refunded them both within a day of buying them.

[@GlennDavey]

I stopped playing Kerbal when I couldn't get poor Jebediah back. He's still out there, orbiting...

[@CELESTEisdead]

a 1 hour tutorial is all you need for Kerbal, you have tik tok brain that's all

[@elimgarak1617]

KSP is easy - just strap on more boosters. If the rocket is wobbly, add struts. Get your staging right so that first stage starts before the second stage. Done. For orbits, look up a 30 min video or tutorial - it's actually pretty easy. Unless you start adding realism mods on top of mods it shouldn't be that big of a deal. My problem with the game is that there is no story or plot - I am hoping that KSP2 will add that.

[@MWAclanGaming]

man I remember playing tarkov as a new player 4 wipers ago, it was really rough. definitely has a massive learning curve to understand everything.

[@MakamaFEET]

Still has a learning curve even if you played it for years. I bought it in like 2018.

[@rigorob4711]

Tarkov spoiled me and I haven't seriously played any other shooter since 2018

[@fubarexress6359]

Escape from tarkov took me 4 months before I could call myself solid and grounded. Never had a game take me anywhere near that. I'm generally top tier at any FPS survival games. But this game tested my patience in ways no other game besides SCUM.

[@lovecheese45]

Rust tested mine. Getting in... Building a base, getting raided. Spawn on beach, get shot. Spawn on beach, get rocked. Rage.

[@fubarexress6359]

@@lovecheese45 yeah I've been meaning to try it. Seems like it may be a bit much for me tho lol 😉

[@ivanquiles4903]

SCUM is what got me into Tarkov. Skra Army

[@mattbrown5511]

Have tried 12.12? And it is only going to get better.

[@PsyTranceKaitia]

Have you tried DayZ? Its great, and it will feel right at home with you. (Based on the use of cyrillics.

[@adriane23]

Armored Core takes me back. I finished almost all of those games, but the shift in style in Armored Core 5 turned me off. I hope From Soft brings the franchise back one day.

[@TAMPATLBLACK]

AC6 is almost finished.

[@ricky836]

DCS World is actually not as hard as you describe it, there are options (game mode) to turn down the realistic controls of the plane, and there are also auto startup (and shutdown) sequences that start-up the aircraft for you, you can literally just press a button and the aircraft starts itself up. Furthermore, not all of the jets in DCS World are full-fidelity modules, which means you don't need to or can't click any of the buttons in the cockpit, which is much more new player-friendly. There are also full built-in tutorials of each aircraft teaching you the basics. However, just like most games, being good at it does actually require hundreds of hours of practicing.

[@nomustacheguy5249]

Technically isn't DCS a study simulator rather than a game ? I know lots of people enjoy it as a game but the prices and complexity would lean it towards being a study sim.

[@BCooperArtMind]

@@nomustacheguy5249 DCS is both a game as @ Rick Y described, and a study sim. It gives you variety--from simple to complex. You decide how much you want to learn, for example, to fly the challenging Mi-24P Hind helicopter, or learn the complex weapons system on the A-10C II, or the more simply older jets, but less complex, such as the MiG-21bis, and down to the Flaming Cliffs 3 aircraft set--such as the MiG-29 and F-15C among others. These latter planes come with simplified weapon systems, non-clickable cockpits, although they do have PFM's.

[@SimoneSerponi]

@@nomustacheguy5249 Yes, DCS is a Study Sim, althoug some of the modules (the former "Lock-On: Modern Air Combat" planes) does not have the same level of relism and complexity of the others and hence are quite simple to learn and use.

[@nomustacheguy5249]

@@BCooperArtMind that's actually great news for someone who has variable hours of time to invest. Really neat.

[@BCooperArtMind]

@@nomustacheguy5249 It is, isn't it. DCS is such a wonderful sim with excellent flexibility for those that don't have much time in the day. 🙂

[@HexLabz]

I can say, with a small grin, that I have sunk many hours into almost every game on this list. DCS seemed too expensive because of all the modules, and I've never heard of Aurora until now.

[@Deathtonado]

the modules go on sale all the time and new players get a discount on there first purchases i got my f-16 for $30 its the gear that gets expensive hotas VR headset and you need a pretty decent pc to run it smoothly

[@ProfRainestorm]

Mad lad

[@dawnkeyballs4898]

@@Deathtonado dude dcs runs 60-80fps on my 1660ti. You don't need top of the line hardware to run that game beautifully. Runs 2k on my reverb VR also

[@Deathtonado]

@@dawnkeyballs4898 must just be my setup than I'm running a liquid cooled Threadripper system 32gb ram rx580 gpu on low settings and still only get 30 fps with bad frame pacing or maybe its an oculus issue

[@artsky261]

Respect for talking about DCS, Im an aircraft fanatic, but just launching DCS, the furthest I got was turning the Engine one before going like: "yup, im a fan of aircraft, but im not gonna enjoy this" and I uninstalled.

[@mysteryboii4869]

Rust is also a difficult game for new for players especially when you enter to a server you'll encounters so much toxic players to sweats that you'll lose all of your progression immediately

[@brodriguez11000]

Division 2's DZ is suppose to be pretty toxic.

[@zxl2508]

Yep. I recommended this be on the list. I never had a fun time on Rust… and 5 years later… I still haven’t had a good time lol

[@jimpennington3824]

Rust is def a brutal new player experience.

[@ladyruff4333]

DCS World played in VR is such an amazing experience all on its own. I love every minute of it!

[@Lycanris]

I absolutely love EVE. Been playing since 2005. But it is definitely complex. And they could make it easier for people to group up for hardcore PvE. But, the game is definitely all about PvP and in-game economy

[@ChubbieBehemoth]

Armored Core is one of my favorite series ever made and it's ROUGH at first. But once you master it. It's such a fun and rewarding game. Surely check it out if you guys haven't. We are always welcoming people into the community.

[@luckylucario]

Another great video from gameranx. There always well researched and the passion is always felt. From the voice actor to the editors , researchers and writers. The love of gaming always shines through.

[@Mrcharrio]

Kerbal Space Program is incredibly hard but very rewarding once you get the hang of it. I've spent days building a space station only to have it break apart, I love it.

[@gameranxTV]

👌🏼

[@gigabossbitch]

Sounds great! I could never. But there is something for everyone!

[@darranrowe174]

I would honestly say that the most enjoyable part of KSP is when things go wrong. I remember when I first got into KSP at around 0.23, before the asteroid redirect stuff was added, the explosions that I got while learning to get a rocket into space was fun, and some of the weird contraptions that you designed to do it was also interesting. It was a different game back then, the making history stuff really changed things.

[@zombiefreak7718]

Moar science!!

[@nicksanchez8294]

The Tekken games are way harder than they first appear. Movement in 3D space, combos, button inputs, and all the other tech in the game goes crazy deep.

[@bruhder5854]

The video is about games that are hard to pick up and play. Tekken has always been chill in that regard.

[@ReddCinema]

I'm honestly impressed by the time and effort you put into these videos, Keep it up! ❤

[@gameranxTV]

Thank you so much!

[@MrShanester117]

No need to be obsequious

[@haydnrogan6789]

​@@MrShanester117 no need to be superfluous in your observations.

[@naplzt4k]

if you got paid to make videos and talk about games you'd put time and effort in them too ha

[@hakeempickering5986]

Nice

[@ricosaifadeen5149]

LOVE seeing Escape From Tarkov getting the attention it deserves. I'm personally not a competitive multiplayer gamer, personally i prefer singleplayer story driven game no matter, tarkov is my only exception because the lore behind the game is so captivating and where the game is headed conceptually and practically has my complete attention. HIGHLY recommend anyone jump in and get to know it. Will it be difficult? Yes. Will you die alot? YES ABSOLUTELY. Is it incredibly satisfying to make out within an inch of your life left and some pretty insane loot? YES 100%

[@shitoryu8]

It's a very a unique game, nothing else really compares, I mean others are trying to get in on the loot/extract genre but EFT feels like nothing else out there.

[@ricosaifadeen5149]

@@shitoryu8 I completely agree! There’s rumors of the upcoming MW2 having a mode similar to EFT loot/extract gameplay loop, however, I think EFT is so unique in more ways then just one and the fact that the game is still in development, meaning it’s not even at its full potential yet is mind blowing and I just can’t wait to see the eventual full release

[@cain5338]

yea the video didn't really do it justice the game play looked really old and whoever was playing it wasn't the best but i guess that's kinda the point.

[@ricosaifadeen5149]

@@cain5338 same can be said about the TarkovTV livestreams lmfaoo

[@cain5338]

@@ricosaifadeen5149 yea Nikita is cheeks no doubt

[@davisbradford7438]

Some complex RTS style games in this list. I can confidently say that my favorite community is in Planetary Annihilation. It's like a Supreme Commander spiritual successor. The game has a miniscule competitive scene but it is hard-core. Long term support has been phenomenal; the community runs it, cause the publisher and developers dropped the ball on content and support.

[@matthewmccoy7437]

oh god i remember playing armored core when i was younger. my dad picked it up for me thinking it was just a casual cool robot game and i spent DAYS trying to beat even the most basic levels. it was not easy lol

[@wisdoom9153]

I bought it expecting Front mission-like game. Oh boy, how naive of me. Still love it, tho.

[@zombiefreak7718]

@@wisdoom9153 love front mission lol. I started with armored core and that's why I got front mission. Saw the robots and was like hey something like armored core!!

[@austinapoptart4545]

Thank you for including Dota in this!!! I knows it’s difficult and complicated especially to new players but as a person with over 9000 hours in the game it’s truly amazing. As long as you’ve an open mind and tough skin (or muting the toxic players) you’re good to go really. Match making for newer players is progressively getting better everyday and it’s worth a shot for the entirety of the game being FREE. You’ll only spend money getting skins and nothing else.

[@dawnkeyballs4898]

Dota is not more difficult than Tarkov

[@dawnkeyballs4898]

@kidamoguS what the actual hell are you talking about?? Tarkov was 10 The op brought up Dota, which was ahead on the list I simply said that that game is not harder than tarkov which I've been a noob on both of those games in the past year Sooooooo....what's your point exactly??

[@TheLiquelique]

@@dawnkeyballs4898 Dota is definitely more difficult to master than Tarkov.

[@dawnkeyballs4898]

@@TheLiquelique if you're stupid and never played an MMORPG...... Having many choices doesn't make it difficult

[@dawnkeyballs4898]

@@TheLiquelique if you actually had trouble mastering how to actually play Dota I legit feel bad for you buddy

[@Tarheb]

Great of you to mentioned some games very few players heard of, but not mention Hunt Showdown...

[@DooMedSean]

Yeah Tarkov and Arma series are definitely difficult games to fresh players, but soooo rewarding once you learn things and get a grasp on how they work, etc. I'd also say the STALKER games/mods are pretty punishing to players who aren't familiar with it, but again upon learning everything, not giving up cause you died, you will be blown away!

[@TKKomis]

I admit I would have loved to see Noita on this list, but I also love seeing other game just as if not just insanely more difficult than Noita! Phenomenal vid, loved it

[@nyandyn]

DCS might be difficult, but for completely different reasons than you described. There are great illustrated tutorials made by Chuck_owl and there's an autostart button for the lazy. Getting the plane into air and missiles off rails is a matter of minutes, not hours. None of this poses any challenge for a healthy adult. The real challenge is being effective in those planes. Unlike the military-industrial complex wants you to believe, these toys do not hold your hand. You'll find yourself task saturated ("spilling the bucket") all the time when you're trying to put weapons on targets while not getting shot down in return. Learning close formation flying and doing air-to-air refueling requires a fail-until-you-don't approach and many give up before they knack it. To make this fun in the long run, you need like-minded people so joining some kind of online community is a must, and they range from casual to hardcore. Some virtual air wings make you qualify in a trainer plane first and keep score on how well you've done in comparison to your squadron mates just like in the real life. In short: DCS is only as hard as you make it, and you can always make it harder.

[@lewisthesneaky2968]

completely agree. flying is easy and if that is all you are looking for it will be a breze but actually killing a foe and not dying yourself is extremely hard.

[@Hairysteed]

Not to mention that bulk of the DCS players come from other games either earlier realistic sims (Falcon 4/BMS, Jane's combat sim series, Lock-On) or other less complex but still infomative games (War Thunder, Strike Fighters series, -Ace Combat- [ok, bad example]) so they already have a some semblance of basic knowledge of military aviation.

[@stighald]

I think I have played Kerbal space programs over 3 attempts. The third time I got to what is essentially Mars. And placed a few sattelites in Orbit. I didn't find the campaign all that compelling, but it was a fun game. Definitely with a high learning curve as you said. But it was very satisfying once you began to get a feel for the game. Weight to thrust ratios, and concepts like Delta V. The difficulty is understandable and at some point becomes charming, because you realize how much you are actually learning on the way. You are litterally learning conecpts of rocket science, orbital mechanics, and everything just blows up sometimes for no reason.

[@GlennDavey]

Had my first attempt recently. That's the one where you're actually doing really well, better even than you thought, until you realise Jebediah ain't never coming back down from orbit. Learning curve on that game is more like learning steps.

[@hippomormor]

Kerbal is easy AF without realism overhaul….. Just saying

[@GlennDavey]

@@hippomormor No it's hard. You must just be smarter than everyone else.

[@Roush7n6]

I am a Eve online 10 year veteran. Started in '09. Eve is definitely a game where it lures you in by giving you a cookie, holds your hand, then it takes your cookie away, throws you off a cliff, and laughs in your face as it eats your cookie in front of you. Good times.

[@Sketh94]

I feel like Rust could be added to this list as well. I have about 1k hours and still have so much to learn. The toxicity of the game can be very off-putting, but you also get some cool experiences no other game has.

[@I4mSh3nanigans1]

All survival PvP games have that hard learning curve where players will get stuck in the early game for a 1000 hrs before someone shows them the ways.. I say this having 6k on ark, 3k atlas and 2k rust but if you have the time to put into it, you'll get experiences you won't get elsewhere that's for sure

[@dawnkeyballs4898]

I enjoy 7 days to die more than Rust

[@I4mSh3nanigans1]

@@dawnkeyballs4898 the troll moments and voice chat of rust is hard to beat, I like 7 days but it's a team game you don't socialize as much with the community.. or at least that's my thought

[@I4mSh3nanigans1]

Also the level of quality on rust content creators is also great, making movies and blender animations.. plus they just reworked the gunplay to make it easier to new players, I think if you have it still you should give it another run

[@GlennDavey]

I played in one of those newbie servers, and did okay for about a week, got a nice little base with the keypad thingy, and a horse round back. Anyway, I logged in one day and 2 guys were C4-ing the wall, and then saw me there and shot me. They even spray-painted a dick over my sign saying "please don't". Anyway, about 16 hours was enough to tell that the game is a complete waste of life, but I had a giggle with it for a while.

[@TimmyTwo-Toes]

I remember just how happy I was when I finally left the atmosphere in Kerbals! Unfortunately I didn’t put enough fuel to safely bring him back so he was up there for a very long time

[@zombiefreak7718]

Haha. I think just about everyone who's played it has done this. I know I have! Another instance is I had gotten onto the surface of the mun, took off and knew I didn't have enough to get back but hoped to get into a stable mun orbit.....had just enough to get about 95% around the mun but would still crash. So at the apo I jumped out and used the thrusters on my kerbal to finish the orbit!! Lol floated around in his suit until I got him another ship to come back in.

[@Jonhicks1984]

honestly surprised Escape From Tarkov wasn't higher on the list. I love the game but I found it way to difficult with other players to enjoy. Especially hackers. I hope when the final release version comes out they have a offline progression game mode since they have already have an offline mode that doesn't count toward progression right now.

[@MakamaFEET]

The offline mod is mostly for practicing you modded weapons before they add the shooting range

[@sebastianriemer1777]

So many of my favourite games on that list. The Arma and the old OF games are great and you are right about the friendly player base. That game always reminds me about my military training, dying without knowing what's going on... 😁 Eve I find very relaxing. I spend hours over hours just mining peacefully and enjoying the soundtrack. DF is actually not that difficult if you pick the right areas. It's the menu that frustrates me. Aurora is really on another level. I still can't get the hang of it and you have to be a special kind of person to enjoy it.

[@CarlizWang]

I got into Escape from Tarkov on recommendation from a friend whom I played with from day one, there is so much to learn my head litterally hurts after the first session and I still understood almost nothing. The game is AWESOME!

[@AwaitingNonExistence]

Mx simulator is an indie motocross simulator that's been around since 07 and has a pretty big skill curve especially if you're someone that typically doesn't play moto games or never played anything more than the mxgp and MvA titles.

[@itsgg5706]

Glad to see Arma 3 on this list! That learning curve was no joke!! Still holds up pretty well for a game from 2013, but really wish we could get a sequel.

[@F22onblockland]

You are in luck, because we are. Arma Reforger from a basic game play and performance level looks fantastic, it's basically Arma 4 super lite.

[@VashStarwind]

Arma 2 is better!

[@hallaloth3112]

My fiance would love the mention of Dwarf Fortress, he's been waiting years for it to complete. Thankfully Rimworld has scratched the itch for now, and lately its been CK2.

[@nevasoba5953]

I remember playing a flight simulator when I was young . I used to love it but I would end up slamming into the ground trying to dive bomb a target bc I wasn't sure how else to line up an approach. fun times. That last one would be insanely hard

[@GlennDavey]

Decided to "hop into" Squad recently. Was always dead long before I saw any enemy. Spent most of my time making up numbers.

[@joeybraghieri]

I'll never forget the Korean Scav friend I met while playing as a PMC trying to get Rogue kills on Lighthouse in Tarkov. Was the craziest match I've played. Thanks for getting me to extract my friend.

[@Aragasio]

I'm surprised that Hell Let Loose was not on the list or an honorable mention! That game was super overwhelming to me and still is lol! Went into not knowing how absolutely integral communication was and the fact to even drive a tank I needed to be part of the tank crew. Solid game tho!

[@HoolieUK]

With you on that Keith, have tried a few matches and blimey it's tricky. Also struggling to get people to use comms

[@lesterbronson2385]

I tried to like it, but getting sniped multiple times in a row from miles away wasn’t very fun haha

[@triroc1]

I’m hoping they bring back Armored Core. I’ve been playing since PS1 up to 360.

[@Demmon98]

I would switch Tarkov and Arma 3. Dying in Tarkov at the end of a raid with several quest items will literally set you back several hours and potentially bankrupt you forcing you to pawn off your stuff (ingame) to afford a new kit. There is just a lot of risk and reward that was left out in the mention

[@iletyouwin561]

Dude I wouldnt even have mentioned arma 3.

[@paulcrouse9987]

As a DCS player and former Army Aviation Soldier I will agree that DCS is the most complex and involved combat flight simulator out there to date for the public. It does take weeks to even learn how to fly the various aircraft but it is so rewarding ( if you are doing it correctly and to standard).It does have auto-start, however that does not help you to fly in combat or really understand what you are doing in the cockpit. I will say this is not a aircraft shooter or really its not a game and to call it such, is a massive understatement. Eagle Dynamics also runs the actual simulator for the US military, so it has to be accurate. You are not just going to hop into any given aircraft and go shoot stuff, it takes many hours just to get the plane started and then more to get it airborne and land and the combat AI is even more intuitive and reacts to combat just like a human would. However, if you have the patients, it is so rewarding. I will state again, this really is not a game, although you can, technically use a keyboard and mouse, the ability to do so is near impossible. you will need a good flight stick and throttle and possibly rudders as well and dont think that they are cheap. An investment of a minimum of $800 in flight gear, and this is just a stick, throttle and rudders is a good start but not the ceiling of what you can spend and that does not include your computer price. It is fully VR capable and one of the best VR environments you will ever see, but then your looking at a $1700 graphics card and another minimum of $700 in a VR headset ( you really don't want to use the oculus, its like wearing eyeglasses smeared with grease). I wrote this blog not to discourage future pilots but to give them an understanding of what you will be getting into.

[@hughanthony9500]

I've only played DCS in this list and it's easily the most complex flight sim I've ever played and even the basics are pretty tough. I've never spent SO much time watching KZbin to find out how to drop a bomb lol.

[@SaulWellingood2]

Path of Exile is pretty brutal as well. Largest skill tree I've ever seen in a game, stats that require you to write them down and do math, drops that feel like a million in one chance, crafted items you need to grind hard for, auction house, trading, real money transactions. It's a job more than a game honestly, I quit after a month and applied elsewhere.

[@hallaloth3112]

@Dragon Nah, its not that bad. It has an extensive skill tree yes, but you'll only see about a sixth of it depending on character. There are definitely guides out there if you want to minmax your builds. . .but you can just play the game and have fun. Admittedly my knowledge comes from a long way back, but if I can stumble through and play around while playing with other people its not that difficult. Playing solo you may want to be a little more optimal, but there are plenty of resources and guides.

[@SaulWellingood2]

@Dragon Depends on your taste, I don't mind some difficulty but the learning curve was too much for me. Worth a try and see if you enjoy games like Diablo

[@g.waits4gainz205]

yeaaaaaaaaaaaa cheers from the casual vet world. theres nothing inherently bizaar abotu the bare minimum of the core mechanics since its inherently jsut an arpg but for any single person to have ot know how to navigate the explosive catalog of information that needs to be implimented into a play through baffling. especialy when you realize 90% of it is on 3rd party sites etc etc and thats when the shit gets bonkers. i love it, only 2500 hours so far but yeah its something i could get a masters degree in and still earn sometyhing new the next day

[@VonDrinkoften]

Great video. I was wondering if DCS would make the list, but I think the commentary was probably a little harsh. Most of the aircraft have interactive tutorials to teach you the basics like engine start-up, take-off, landing and even weapons use etc. It's all there in the main menu if you look for it and while complex, will become second nature if repeated successfully and often enough, which is where most new players will most likely get discouraged. The DCS aircraft modules require a LOT of commitment from the player to learn properly, so anyone looking for simple and quick gratification will be turned off. The second turnoff, is that to get the most out of it requires the purchase of some pricey items like Joystick, throttle and rudder pedal combo's along with Track IR etc. Most gamers cant afford that. But, DCS will reward those that put the time and effort into it, and pulling off that first successful circuit landing is incredibly satisfying... but just not for everyone I guess.

[@ThePman007]

This old dude that works with my mom he was an air force pilot he is always talking to me about this game. My eyes glaze over lol but he gets animated about it, it's funny.

[@VonDrinkoften]

@@ThePman007He's not wrong, and even if you only have a passing interest in aviation then give it a try as the basic DCS game engine is free to download and includes a number of free aircraft to cut your teeth on. It looks stunning if you have a decent enough PC, but does require a lot of self discipline. As I prev mentioned, it is incredibly rewarding if you want something to challenge yourself and the online community is pretty welcoming and ready to help/assist newcomers as well.

[@emilnagl]

You forgot the biggest turn off. $80 modules

[@VonDrinkoften]

@@emilnagl Given the depth of content that each of the aircraft modules contains, and the amount of time spent learning and coming proficient with it, I don't think the price tag of a similarly priced AAA title on release is unreasonable. DCS is not an arcade shoot-em-up game like IL-2, or Warthunder etc aimed at pre-pubescent teenagers with the attention span of a goldfish, but more for the mature adult whom wants the best reality currently on offer for military aviation enthusiasts as well as the numerous systems and procedures contained within, and continues to push that envelope with regular updates. If you disagree, your probably better off sticking with Call of Duty etc on the X-Box or PlayStation and leave flight simulators to the grown ups.

[@Jeff-cn9up]

I didn't find CDDA (Cataclysm Dark Days Ahead) very difficult. In fact, I enjoyed it so much, I joined in development to help add to it.

[@KorilD]

That’s one of the best things about CDDA! People can just volunteer to be a dev! Thank you for your service!

[@SolarFlare-eg4du]

You can't forget about the Father of hard mech games, Steel Battalion. Throws you into a battle with no training and on an actual Mech Sim Controller that let me remind you is huge. And the cherry on top is if you die in a battle and you have no backup mech, your commanding officer will call you out on your lack of skill and send you back to the reserves. While deleting your save.

[@drewtheunspoken3988]

I was trying to remember the name of that game when he was talking about Armored Core. Thank you!

[@johnphilip8848]

I loved the Armored Core series, but yea, it's pretty brutal. Getting used to the controls is one thing, but the fact that you have to pay to repair any damage you sustained and even the ammo you used during a mission, makes it so that most new players will have a negative balance even if the mission was completed successfully.

[@TheBattleRabbit860]

I just got into _Tarkov_ and it is a truly unforgiving game. Just last night I was doing a scav run and got merk'd by another scav - also a player - camping a shipping crate. Message to every new player: Respect the wiggle. As a side note, I'd like to let everyone that plans on trying _Armored Core_ know that it is a FromSoftware game, and I hope that in and of itself serves as a fair warning.

[@cavemanvi]

Been playing two wipes now. Annnd ever since voip came in and the Christmas event screwing everyone’s rep up. It’s the most backstabbing I’ve ever seen 😂

[@krispigaming358]

@@cavemanvi I have about 1500 hours in the game and I just wanna say it doesn't get any easier, from people camping to people backstabbing you hell even the team kills. hands down the best most Adeline filled game I have ever played in my life - 10/10 -IGN also I would suck Nikitas toes

[@UsualMotives]

They have a way of changing stuff just when you think you learned everything. hope you are enjoying it, has been my favorite for years nothing else like it

[@TheBattleRabbit860]

​@@cavemanvi Too many times now I've wiggled at another scav, gotten the wiggle back, then took one to the head.

[@TheBattleRabbit860]

@@UsualMotives I'm loving and hating it. The learning curve is steep, but totally worth the climb. It makes every accomplishment mean that much more. Nothing is handed to you, everything is _earned_

[@dopeyrox777]

I'm surprised rocket league didn't get an honorable mention. I think it's more difficult than games like tarkov but alot of people try to dumb it down. Drive car, hit ball. The mechanics in rocket are much more intense and has a higher learning curve than games like tarkov.

[@Snadaaahhh]

Lol, have you ever played Tarkov?

[@jobbemathijssen4303]

@@Snadaaahhh if I quit playing now it will take you at least 3k hours in game to get at my skill level 😅

[@jobbemathijssen4303]

@@Snadaaahhh btw talking bout rocket league

[@Snadaaahhh]

@@jobbemathijssen4303 You didnt answer my question tho lol, I;m aware Rocket league is a game with a steep learning curve. But it ain't Tarkov.

[@hashslinginslasher1964]

We love you Falcon ❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥

[@gameranxTV]

🦅

[@JR-mk6ow]

One of my best gaming moments was rendezvous and docking a space station in KSP. So satisfying

[@loudimes5502]

Even though I wouldn’t play a lot of these, it’s dope to see developers making such meticulous games

[@mrbrightside2937]

Dota 2 is unforgivable. It has a steep learning curve but even more so when you don't have a party to hold your hand along the way. basically stay away from pub games if you are new

[@miamorhardstyle]

My friends keep trying to convince me to play it... i took one look at it and said "lol im almost 30 now... no way im spending 1000s of hours learning 150 different heroes"... To me it just doesn't look like its worth the time investment

[@athes2309]

@@miamorhardstyle Actually you dont need 1000s hours to learn 100s heroes, you can instead use 1000s hours to learn how to use 1 hero to deal with the other 100s. Well, still take 1000s hours anyway but a bit easier lmao

[@miamorhardstyle]

@@athes2309 na i think ill just play something you dont need to do a uni course for lol

[@athes2309]

yeah, there are so many games to enjoy nowadays so hardcore games like dota is not appealing for new players anymore, such a shame though haha

[@miamorhardstyle]

@@athes2309 yes I think I missed the boat...

[@thecaptainatlas]

The other day, I was thinking about how difficult getting into League of Legends and Yu-Gi-Oh must be for newcomers. 😅

[@hallaloth3112]

I would say something like Magic gets a free pass and just 'read the card' but then you have to learn how all the cards and their triggers interact. . . and then arguments break out. . .and then someone has to go dig through and attempt to find official rulings. . .and then you just houserule it anyway

[@no____-____ah]

League is meant for mainstream masses, it's made pretty simple for a MOBA game.

[@Meatloaf_TV]

Tarkov is definitely up there but I think an underratedly difficult game is Kerbal space program

[@TheDoddridge]

Trrrueee that shit totally stumped me when I was a kid

[@chscelebrity8325]

Maybe that’s why it’s on here

[@SpaceRanger187]

Tarkov isn't that bad if u watch videos and learn where crap is

[@Meatloaf_TV]

@@TheDoddridge now that I put hundreds of hours of time into the game it's become too easy but I remember the begining where I was stumped for 50 hours also I just downloaded mods for ksp to make it harder and now I remember what it's like it's fun

[@Meatloaf_TV]

@@chscelebrity8325 I mean it should be above some of these other games like eve online

[@Pendragon667]

I want to add X-Com 2: Terror from the Deep as an honorable mention. While not the most difficult game even on the lower difficulties there is no steep learning curve but a brick wall right from the get-go.

[@KingKhy100]

I've heard the exact same thing about terror of the deep

[@Pendragon667]

​@@KingKhy100 I've played the original many times. Both the original version and Open X-Com as well. Some years i thought i'll give _Terror_ a try. And despite everything that i've i heard i thought i would do pretty well. Spoilers: i didn't 😀 Second lowest difficulty, save-scumming and the game is still kicking my nuts.

[@UN4GiV3NTR]

it is difficult to call DCS even a game. but after hours of training, when you learn to fly that aircraft, pleasure is indescribable

[@Nightweaver1]

I downloaded both EVE Online and DCS World a few years ago, got about 10 minutes into each and noped out immediately. Way too hard, even for me, and I play Souls. Of course that doesn't mean much these days. I'll give a honorable mention to the game Outward by Nine Dots Studio, which is basically an "adventurer simulator" where you start as a literal nobody, you have no idea where to go because there are no map markers, and you're as fragile as tissue paper. On top of that there are numerous status effects which stack, hunger, thirst, heat, cold, diseases and when you die (you will die), you get sent to a random dungeon somewhere on the map that you then have to escape and find your way back to town from.

[@the_omg3242]

I think EVE gets a bit of a bad rap sometimes. Sure, it's got a lot of complexity, but it's also got a decent tutorial for new players and an initial string of NPC missions that will get you quite a few various ships. These are smaller ships, but that's what you should be flying till you get familiar with the game anyways since they're cheaper to replace if you lose one. The community can be quite helpful to people asking questions in chat and lots of players will offer to take a noob under their wing and teach them the game. Yes, you can be killed by more experience players anywhere and anytime, but there's plenty of high security space where the cost of killing you will far exceed the benefit. In many places, you simply not worth shooting if you're new.

[@juanagustinrudoni6266]

i tried eve online when humble bundle had a month subscription for it ,play for about a week collecting resources and looting destroyed spaceships, and when i learned that it had a monthly subscription i stopped playing it.

[@Artemis25]

@@juanagustinrudoni6266 you can pay for the monthly subscription with in game currency. I play for 8 hours and I can pay for a month

[@fuzzybloodpc9291]

I did not expect dcs to be the #1 hardest game. Rant: yes there is a manual for most planes in the game but if you dont like reading 400+ pages on how every system works and how to use it, just watch videos on it. I learned all of my aircraft just through videos.

[@johnwrath3612]

Starcraft and Starcraft 2 should be on this list.

[@kjb5128]

I know it's technically a TCG and the videogames are secondary, but there's no way someone could just jump into Yu-Gi-Oh nowadays

[@etchasketch222]

PlanetSide 2 is a fantastic game! Most people come in from CoD or Battlefield and quickly realize it's a different beast. It really jives when you play with a lot of buddies or join a good squad. It's a true teamwork game

[@rob550]

I'd like to nominate Warframe for part two of this series.

[@skazora]

Genuinely believe Starcraft should take DOTA's spot

[@wingsofpizza]

I literally just started playing dcs and it’s great. Lol. It’s not as bad as people describe it. Starting off with the SU-25T, it’s not even a fully fledged cockpit with all interactive switches and buttons and stuff so it’s kinda easy to learn on (but you gotta remember all the keyboard shortcuts or inputs on your stick and throttle). Starting it up and taking off isn’t crazy difficult or anything but learning to control the aircraft in the air is a little bit harder especially if you don’t know all the controls or what everything means. Landing was really difficult for me to learn and I haven’t even started on dog fights yet. Lol. I want to learn how to fly properly first before getting into the other stuff.

[@brodriguez11000]

Wouldn't all the realistic flight sims be pretty hard?

[@piketchupwarthog3574]

I'd honestly say the Su-25T isn't the best free starter module. It's alright as a demo but its flight handling and avionics (being Russian rather the predominantly West systems once you decide to go into others) doesn't really do justice. The full fidelity modules can be harsh to learn for the uninitiated, but overall the basic flight is relatively simple especially on FBW planes like the F-16/-18. Then again I primarily fly the C-Hog and Flanker so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@R_J8]

Honestly I would of thought Tekken 7 made it on him. I'm a fighting game player and I found that game *hard* when I first picked it up. Mostly because fighting a new character is like playing a different game; the 2ds, characters with multiple stances and all the different tracking of moves on top of basic frame data. It's a game where you are always learning, and arguably there are less than a hundred people who have mastered it.

[@majorearl12]

I love Arma 3, i unfortunately cant get into a community due to time in my own life, but the mod community makes the game even crazier: Advanced medical to have different bandages, morphine, epinephrine, blood transfusions, even more if you so choose. Advanded movement options like clambering ontop of almost anything and everything Mods that go into almost any universe with their own mechanics and weapons, even jetpacks for each mod. Advanced ballistics for weapons. Aircraft controls that are highly realistic and a steep learning curve. Arma Reforger was recently announced that is the next step up, and in the next few years, Arma 4 which will highly improve on Arma 3, modders will do even more for this next installment. For beginners, if you find it on sale, lookup some Arma youtubers/streamers to watch how it plays, get into a community if you can, or just get the game and goof off in the game editor mode, making missions and just having lots of fun.

[@papagrounds]

I would add Rocket League into this list. Yeah, it's easy to start playing like shit but a freaking nightmare to master.

[@LolSumor]

I think the idea of this video was hard to start playing, not mastering

[@papagrounds]

@@LolSumor I know and it is hard to start playing well but easy to start playing like shit. You can look at the topic in hand from other perspectives than one.

[@sophiathekitty]

I'm kinda hyped for ksp 2. I loved the first one. I mostly always used the nice autopilot mod. But also the mod that added a scripting language to control the ships. Made a script that would handle deploying com sat network around a planet. Now I mostly play space engineers cause it's first person and has c# instead of a completely unique language.... Would be fun if it included orbital mechanics.

[@Elwaves2925]

I'm looking forward to KSP 2 as well. Did I get very far in KSP 1? Nope. Did I keep trying? Yep. Did I love every minute of frustration? Absolutely. 😆

[@the_omg3242]

@@Elwaves2925 Also looking forward to KSP2. KSP was a hard game to learn since a lot of what you try is so non-intuitive. Sandbox with unlimited parts is harder to learn in than career with a very small pool of parts. A bigger rocket is often harder to get to space than a smaller one. Flying too fast in atmosphere burns more fuel than fighting gravity longer at a lower speed. A lot of times in KSP you're banging your head against the wall wondering "why doesn't this work?" and when you later find out it makes total sense to you why it didn't work.

[@YT-CesarB]

Before watching: From Software games

[@notproductiveproductions3504]

Yes, just not the ones you were thinking of

[@AdrenalineJunkiesLive]

GTFO absolutely should have made this list. It is quite possibly the hardest FPS game ever made (when it comes to new players). Veteran players make it look easy, but a squad if new players will struggle on even the easiest of levels.

[@nauseous3925]

DCS is rewardingly hard, it took me so long to start up an F18, contact ATC tower, take off and land at another destination. THAT'S the easy part, learning how to dogfight, learn radar, weapons and systems is a whole another level. IT'S WORTH IT in the end.

[@thembc7863]

For someone who has never played souls games, playing it blind 100% on your own first try is difficult, should have been on 10th or 9th place or just a honorable mention

[@Jason-jb1vs]

realistically it's not comparable to other game on the list, sure it is generally hard for newcomer but what games on the list you would take off from the list to replace?

[@thembc7863]

@@Jason-jb1vs armored core for example, just a few, or as honorable mention, ive played an endless amount of games and playing ds1 alone for the first time was super special and difficult, even more so in its genre

[@TheSultan1470]

Problem is, these games are just not comparable due to being in different genres offering different styles of play. Is beating Dark Souls harder than surviving in a realistic open world MMO enviroment? Or flying an actual jet? Or successfully micro managing an empire?

[@Activated_Complex]

Armored Core does, at least, limit the number of parts for customization available to the player right at the start. And shows how any part you’re looking at compares to what is already equipped. So while there are some easy traps to fall into, like immediately going for the most powerful thrusters and biggest energy capacity generator available, it shouldn’t be too difficult to course-correct and make a viable build. Easier, certainly, than changing up a Soulslike character build after getting cleaned out by a boss. And most missions are possible to kind of slop your way through, if you’re not after the elusive S-rank and whatever unique gear item it unlocks. Not a light, casual franchise for mech enthusiasts, but a rewarding one even if you’re not the second coming of Char Aznable.

[@majindomttv3903]

The fact you mentioned char at the end you get a like lol

[@Activated_Complex]

@Baxi Yeah, ammo cost is just about the only thing that can persuade me to take energy weapons over slug-throwers and missiles in a videogame where I’m offered the choice. At least, depending on the specific entry in the series, you can generally replay missions, or win some arena fights, to build up credits.

[@skykaptain007]

So happy DCS is getting a shout out. One false information is each aircraft does come with a manual while Chuck Guides are the default sparknotes.

[@manifoldsystems1928]

Love Kerbal Space Program, with the number of mods, it's addictive as hell !

[@Qwonk]

DCS World is probably the best VR game and one of my most favorite games of all time

[@CaptainKneegrowMan]

I'm surprised Warframe didn't make this list...it's absolutely overwhelming for newbies

[@iceshadow207]

Hahahaha, there I was, watching the entire video, thinking "can't wait to leave a comment mentioning how DCS is more difficult than all these games combined" and there it is, at number 1 😆 Awesome video, appreciate the addition of Europa Universalis, Arma and KSP 💚 O7

[@listerofsmeg884]

i thought this was going to be about general games known for steep learning curves , like the Souls games and related. But these seem on another level.

[@espurrjelly]

Falcon you are absolutely right on spread sheet the game. With the fact that when the devs officially partnered with Microsoft excel the crowd cheered.

[@danm2084]

Wow. Did not see armored core coming. Played the shit out of those games back in the day. One of my favorites of all time.

[@Khornecussion]

" Sometimes scavs are other players and that makes them more deadly. " Me as a scav negotiating with PMCs: " Hey, you got any spare loot I can trade for some of the food I've scrounged? I figure since you're about to extract you're full up, but if you've got like a decent low grade rifle and some ammo, I'll trade some of the food and water I've found. " - And it usually works. haha. Even then, it's rare I get randomly attacked by PMCs. They tend to have a heart. Not everybody on that game is an ExFilCamper, or he who we only call " The Rat King "

[@kingastroboy101]

Would of liked to see more genre variation with games less known like stoneshard, kinshi or something like battle brothers. Over all great video 👍🏻

[@andrewjohnson707]

Surprised no CRPGs made it on this list. Pathfinder games for newbies leave you stuck in character creation for 5-10 hours (just overwhelmed by the sheer information overload), and understanding game and class interactions, skills, feats, AC, BAB, etc. takes many many hours. Overwhelming at first for sure, but so sooo worth it!

[@CR00SWIJK]

about DSC world, i am one of does guys that bought a flightstick and got into the game, it took me around 160-200 hours ish untill i could understand the basics like the start up sequence, takeoff/landing and how to target ground targets, how to lock arm the missle crazy indepth AND that was just for one single aircraft. Indeed the hardest game to get into and alot of patience and ofcourse google.

[@FuriousMaximum]

You get Much Respect for making a list about "the most difficult..." without including FromSoft games.

[@nacho__063]

I feel like some fighting games like mortal kombat deserve an honorable mention because they seems pretty hard for new players that aren’t used to the genre. They just spam buttoms before they understand combos, footsies and frame data